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Super 3
Dec 31, 2007

Sometimes the powers you get are shit.
Can someone clarify an order of operations question?

Is this correct?

1. Roll attack dice.
1.a. Apply modifiers to attack dice.

2. Defense dice are rolled.
2.a. Apply modifiers to defense dice.

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smashthedean
Jul 10, 2006

Don't let dogs get any part of fish.

Super 3 posted:

Can someone clarify an order of operations question?

Is this correct?

1. Roll attack dice.
1.a. Apply modifiers to attack dice.

2. Defense dice are rolled.
2.a. Apply modifiers to defense dice.

Yes.

alg
Mar 14, 2007

A wolf was no less a wolf because a whim of chance caused him to run with the watch-dogs.

Right

Jonas Albrecht
Jun 7, 2012


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQvcrdDZ2Oo

World Championship Finals. This game is pretty amazing.

alg
Mar 14, 2007

A wolf was no less a wolf because a whim of chance caused him to run with the watch-dogs.

I don't usually watch stuff like that but that was an awesome hour of game stuff. Truly a nail biter.

Mr. Otorp
Apr 23, 2006
Its not everyday that one's beliefs are tested. Nope, that happens on Tuesdays. Ye-hup, Tuesdays.
I just watched that game and it was awesome and super tense! I also learned something about the game that I had taken for granted: apparently you can fire through ship bases with no penalty? I had assumed ships would be treated like asteroids,(thereby giving the defender an extra dice) but, I didn't see any evidence of that in the video. It makes sense to me now why TIE swarms are so popular.

Edit: Are any of the other Worlds X-Wing games anywhere close to being that good?

smashthedean
Jul 10, 2006

Don't let dogs get any part of fish.
I just watched this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8J-R2-u7Na4

It was pretty good. Showed a TIE Swarm against a 3 X-Wing list with some good piloting going on. I'm trying to find a good match showing a Falcon being taken down as that's currently my greatest bane, but haven't seen anything yet.

Veritek83
Jul 7, 2008

The Irish can't drink. What you always have to remember with the Irish is they get mean. Virtually every Irish I've known gets mean when he drinks.
The US National tournament videos are pretty good- really all of the Team Covenant ones. I actually picked up the game originally because I'd watched a couple of the video battle reports.

Blooregard
Sep 7, 2012

Jonas Albrecht posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQvcrdDZ2Oo

World Championship Finals. This game is pretty amazing.

That was pretty awesome. As a player that CONSTANTLY hits my own ships, watching that tie swarm was a thing of beauty.

LifeLynx
Feb 27, 2001

Dang so this is like looking over his shoulder in real-time
Grimey Drawer
I'm having so much trouble playing against TIE swarms. I took Wedge along with different variations of the Falcon and A-Wing, but I don't think that's going to cut it against swarms.

I chock a lot of this up to being a card gamer at heart and not ever dealing with positioning. I probably shouldn't charge towards the line of advancing TIEs like it's American Civil War tactics.

banned from Starbucks
Jul 18, 2004




Yeah the last thing you want to do vs a swarm is attack it head on. Asteroid placement is key. Try to lump your 3 asteroids together in a tight triangle either in the middle or closer to your side and abuse the hell out of them to try and break up their formation.

Tekopo
Oct 24, 2008

When you see it, you'll shit yourself.


I got drawn in by this finally and I'm building a small fleet: currently have 1 X-Wing, 1 Y-Wing, 2 A-Wings and 2 TIE Fighters. I'm mostly going for looks and getting the ships I used to love in TIE Fighter/X-Wing videogames, but are TIE Interceptors any good at all? They were really my favourite ship and I'll probably get at least one, but was wondering if they were worth their points in comparison to TIE Fighters. What about Bombers?

alg
Mar 14, 2007

A wolf was no less a wolf because a whim of chance caused him to run with the watch-dogs.

^^^^ Interceptors own, may as well pick up the Imperial Aces pack when it comes out

Pix from BGG of upcoming ships





Nebalebadingdong
Jun 30, 2005

i made a video game.
why not give it a try!?

alg posted:

^^^^ Interceptors own, may as well pick up the Imperial Aces pack when it comes out

Pix from BGG of upcoming ships



:allears:

A friend got me into this game and I love it. I can't wait to repaint one of these things!

Paradoxish
Dec 19, 2003

Will you stop going crazy in there?
I don't understand why I want those big ships so much. I don't care what rules they come up with, they're way too large to be practical as anything more than gimmicks and yet for some reason that doesn't matter to me at all. I can feel my wallet getting lighter already.

enri
Dec 16, 2003

Hope you're having an amazing day

That E-wing is the ugliest thing I've ever laid my eyes on :(

alg
Mar 14, 2007

A wolf was no less a wolf because a whim of chance caused him to run with the watch-dogs.

http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/edge_news.asp?eidn=4663



:eyepop:

Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.

:shepspends:

But seriously, those things are amazing. I am really looking forward to the CR-90.

e: Look I though the Millenium Falcon was bad, this thing will be a beast with all those Turbolasers. Thankfully it should be vulnerable to TIE Bombers to potentially load up those Adv. Proton Torpedoes.

Also that Container token from X-Wing series games. Beautiful.

Recoome fucked around with this message at 00:14 on Feb 22, 2014

Feeple
Jul 17, 2004

My favorite part of this hobby is the rules arguments.

HOLY poo poo RANGE BAND 5?!

alg
Mar 14, 2007

A wolf was no less a wolf because a whim of chance caused him to run with the watch-dogs.

Think I've settled on a list for Store Championships:

Kyle Katarn
Blaster Turret, Recon Specialist, Moldy Crow
31 points

Blue Squadron Pilot
Advanced Sensors
25 points

Gold Squadron Pilot
Ion Cannon Turret
23 points

Rookie Pilot
21 points

Kyle keeps the B-Wing supplied with Focus to go with a Target Lock every turn, while the Y-Wing runs interference and X-Wing helps out with firepower where needed.

long-ass nips Diane
Dec 13, 2010

Breathe.

The C3PO upgrade is terrible and great at the same time.

PJOmega
May 5, 2009

Swagger Dagger posted:

The C3PO upgrade is terrible and great at the same time.

The R2D2 seems a pretty lousy sidegrade from the original.

alg
Mar 14, 2007

A wolf was no less a wolf because a whim of chance caused him to run with the watch-dogs.

R2 as crew loving owns.

JerryLee
Feb 4, 2005

THE RESERVED LIST! THE RESERVED LIST! I CANNOT SHUT UP ABOUT THE RESERVED LIST!

Leo Showers posted:

Also that Container token from X-Wing series games. Beautiful.

I kind of wish it had been an A type container--those were more iconic due to being in all the games. :goonsay:

banned from Starbucks
Jul 18, 2004




PJOmega posted:

The R2D2 seems a pretty lousy sidegrade from the original.

Original R2D2 on something like the Falcon would be absurd though.

LifeLynx
Feb 27, 2001

Dang so this is like looking over his shoulder in real-time
Grimey Drawer
I finally won! And by won, I mean I managed to blow up one TIE Fighter before losing all the rest of my ships: Luke, a Red Squadron X-Wing, a B-Wing, and an A-Wing. This time I started in the opposite corner of the map and then spent the first two turns maneuvering, but kind of panicked when the big melee happened and started accidentally slamming my ships into things.

Howlrunner's ability is pretty broken. I took so much damage from those rerolls. I hate running ships with one agility, because I'll get into a position where I'll have a ship with four attack dice coming at me, and I have a single defense die to maybe roll a dodge, but if I don't then I'm taking 2-3 damage.

I'm so bad miniatures games that I should be playing Empire so I can have all of the defense dice, many more attacks per round, and all of the cheap ships so I'm not sweating when I gently caress up and lose one, but damnit, I'm going to make Rebels work.

Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.
I don't know if I noticed it before, but the primary attack of the CR90 is range 3-5, which means if you were good enough you should be able to close the distance to they have to use the QLC to hit you, which uses energy.

I really think this ship, while extremely cool, will be prohibitive in points even if you boost the games to 150 points.

Han shoots first was a good build because it took advantage of the meta at the time, with the TIE Bomber squads build around a god-ship really aren't going to fly, even if it's a capital ship. If it's expending energy to regain shields, then it isn't supporting their squad and it sure as hell isn't shooting at you with QLC's so :shrug:

JerryLee
Feb 4, 2005

THE RESERVED LIST! THE RESERVED LIST! I CANNOT SHUT UP ABOUT THE RESERVED LIST!
The corvette is completely bogus if there isn't a valid tactic involving sitting in its blind spot and slowly killing it with laser cannons. :colbert:

PJOmega
May 5, 2009

JerryLee posted:

The corvette is completely bogus if there isn't a valid tactic involving sitting in its blind spot and slowly killing it with laser cannons. :colbert:

Ah, the lack of engine backwash was lovely.

Rogue 7
Oct 13, 2012

Swagger Dagger posted:

The C3PO upgrade is terrible and great at the same time.

He actually seems excellent on a ship with 1 evasion like the Falcon. Guess zero and he's the equivalent of a permanent evade token, and if need be you can go for broke trying to roll big and get more.

Also, do we know how ships gain energy back? Those laser upgrades on the Corvette can't be one shot weapons for their point cost, can they?

Weissritter
Jun 14, 2012

Ionization reactor is hilarious. Especially if there are rules with regards to collision with the corvette.

Arrgytehpirate
Oct 2, 2011

I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!



smashthedean posted:

I just watched this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8J-R2-u7Na4

It was pretty good. Showed a TIE Swarm against a 3 X-Wing list with some good piloting going on. I'm trying to find a good match showing a Falcon being taken down as that's currently my greatest bane, but haven't seen anything yet.

This is a really good video, and has me excited to go play again.

Jonas Albrecht
Jun 7, 2012


Rogue 7 posted:

He actually seems excellent on a ship with 1 evasion like the Falcon. Guess zero and he's the equivalent of a permanent evade token, and if need be you can go for broke trying to roll big and get more.
That's actually pretty clever. Put him on the Falcon and that's basically two free evade tokens per turn.


Rogue 7 posted:

Also, do we know how ships gain energy back? Those laser upgrades on the Corvette can't be one shot weapons for their point cost, can they?
I believe the Rebel Transport preview states that you gain energy back by taking an action.

EDIT: No that's wrong. They haven't stated how energy works yet.

Jonas Albrecht fucked around with this message at 04:41 on Feb 23, 2014

Arrgytehpirate
Oct 2, 2011

I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!



Are there any good list utilizing the Falcon? I think the last time I played I ran a heavily upgraded Falcon with a Red Squadron X-Wing and a Green Squadron A-Wing.

Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.
I'd upload the Fore and Aft sections of the CR90 but Imgur is crashing and showing up error messages so I'll have to do it later. Looks like the CR90 has 5 energy base which doesn't really allow for much shooting with the auxillary turbolasers or Quad Laser Cannons.

I'm going to draw a pretty long bow here and say that the Primary attack of the CR90 is a turret, which can hit regardless of arcs. I think the hardpoint weapons such as the Single Turbolasers and the Quad Laser Cannons will only be able to fire out of the printed arcs on the base, as they don't specify anything to do with firing outside of arcs like the Ion Cannon Turret can. This makes the most sense in my opinion and would allow for ships such as Backstabber so still get the out of arc bonus by attacking head on or directly behind. Also it'd be pretty stupid if it can't shoot in front of itself.

Also because there is a fore and an aft section, I suppose the ship itself will be 90 points base, which means even with 150 points or whatever you aren't getting much.

Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.
I also bought an extra TIE Bomber today, because if they are increasing the points I want to take a full flight of Bombers loaded with torpedoes. It's an addiction :negative:

KO Derf
Jan 14, 2003

Doctor Rope
I've been thinking about getting one more TIE bomber to try out Fuamatu's list on
http://teamcovenant.com/theorist/2014/02/20/x-wing-hilo-round-six-sweet-16/

You are correct though. It will also be useful for taking out transports and corvettes.

Arrgytehpirate
Oct 2, 2011

I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!



I've been reading around looking for a fun list and found one that looks fun.

Bounty Hunter w/ Recon x2
Shuttle w/ Vader

Anyone have any experience playing with or against this list? I'd like to know if it's worth it to buy the second Firespray and a Shuttle.

TouchToneDialing
Jul 21, 2006

Arrgytehpirate posted:

I've been reading around looking for a fun list and found one that looks fun.

Bounty Hunter w/ Recon x2
Shuttle w/ Vader

Anyone have any experience playing with or against this list? I'd like to know if it's worth it to buy the second Firespray and a Shuttle.

Iv done two BH with gunner and Shuttle/Vader before. You're not going to win tournaments with the list but they are fun to play. Two BH also have lists like:

Double Bounty Hunter with Cannons
BH + HLC x2
Howlrunner + Swarm tactics

Double Bounty Hunter Splash Damage
BH + Assault Missile + Seismic Charge x2
Howlrunner + Swarm tactics

The shuttle isnt that great of a ship and comes down to playing it Omicron with vader and using it to deny actions. You do however get probably the best add on card in the game, advanced sensor. Its the reason anyone owns more than one shuttle.

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Kilazar
Mar 23, 2010
Tournaments really should go to a WYSIWYG format for what is on the play field, and a codex format for the god damned cards. The card bloat in this is getting retarded. I have a stack of dupe pilots that can't be used as big as my rebel stack. It's just wasteful.

But I guess it forces people to buy multiple "shuttles" even though they will never use more than the first one.

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