chuggo is BACK posted:

ahahha same guy

The Premier League, as a concept and as a brand, was given a tremendous boost by Manchester United's brilliance, flair and success; would it really surprise anyone if the PL were now looking for a new 'flagship' brand club, one which makes exciting big-money signings, one which plays in a globally-appealing, continental (and not merely British) style...and one which miraculously seems to have got so many journalists onside? "PL & others, what first attracted you to billionaire-Manchester City?"...

It's quite clear that, in modern-day Britain, everything is for sale - even integrity - and never mind the morals or sporting ethics; why else would the game welcome would-be owners who possess dire human rights records, people whose fortunes may well be built on a pile of corpses or on violations of the law? Everything's for sale if you have enough money to grease the wheels. Unless we've all been suddenly struck blind and can no longer read, it isn't bizarre or crazy to consider the evidence of recent history.

chuggo is BACK posted:

ahahha same guy

The Premier League, as a concept and as a brand, was given a tremendous boost by Manchester United's brilliance, flair and success; would it really surprise anyone if the PL were now looking for a new 'flagship' brand club, one which makes exciting big-money signings, one which plays in a globally-appealing, continental (and not merely British) style...and one which miraculously seems to have got so many journalists onside? "PL & others, what first attracted you to billionaire-Manchester City?"...

It's quite clear that, in modern-day Britain, everything is for sale - even integrity - and never mind the morals or sporting ethics; why else would the game welcome would-be owners who possess dire human rights records, people whose fortunes may well be built on a pile of corpses or on violations of the law? Everything's for sale if you have enough money to grease the wheels. Unless we've all been suddenly struck blind and can no longer read, it isn't bizarre or crazy to consider the evidence of recent history.

vyelkin posted:

lmao United fans are cracking up after half a season of midtable mediocrity and I'm loving it.

TheBigAristotle posted:

Eboracum posted:

http://www.redcafe.net/threads/who-let-the-dogs-out.385310/

Eboracum posted:

http://www.redcafe.net/threads/who-let-the-dogs-out.385310/

Eboracum posted:

http://www.redcafe.net/threads/who-let-the-dogs-out.385310/

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This was bad enough that a thread was made.

trem_two posted:

The 1 Soccer Policy that Cripples the National Team all the way to 9 Year Olds

US Soccer not creating a true soccer pyramid with promotion & relegation.
That’s it!
You want youth development on par with the rest of the world?
You want our top flight pro teams at the level with the best in the world?
You want the National Team to consistently be a legit World Cup contender?
Well, we need a soccer pyramid – like the rest of the world – where the best can rise and the mediocre get punished.
America’s Strength
One of the things that has made our country so great is enabling ideas to compete with one another in an open market.
There are no monopoly entitlements granted so that one business presides over a market.
So for example, the US government does not entitle Google monopoly power over the mass search engine market.
No. Google’s product must live and die on its own merits. And the consumer (aka, the market) dictates that, not the government.
This policy of not granting monopoly power to any one business is awesome!
It breeds competition between ideas and their execution. It spawns innovation and grants freedom and opportunity for all who wish to enter the ring – it is arguably the best mechanism we have for enabling the true ‘cream to rise to the top’.
Hell, it is what gives legitimate credence to the concept of the “cream rising to the top”.
In the global soccer arena, the standard mechanism by which this is achieved is an open competition between autonomous clubs who can be promoted or relegated through divisions.
In our country, this is being denied to us.
We do not have an open market where people’s ideas and subsequent products live and die on their own merits through open competition.
Instead, we have a closed anti-competitive system.
We have a centralized command and control system run by a singular business comprised of a small aristocracy.
And they govern the entire soccer landscape with one single-party voice. In effect, soccer in our country is being controlled and represented by a monoculture.
Over the years, I have grown increasingly convinced that as long as US Soccer does not champion and then institute promotion/relegation, everything will continue in perverse mediocrity.
Again, promotion & relegation is the market mechanism by which ideas/products can openly compete. The best rise, the worst fall. This is what better incentivizes hard work and innovation. This is what gives the ambitious a means to rise to the top. This is what punishes the lazy, and the mediocre. This is what incentivizes investments throughout the landscape.
This captures the essence of the American Dream!
And guess what, in soccer, that’s the system the whole world has.
And yet, we don’t. We don’t have a more open, merit-based system like theirs … we have entitlements insulating a select – privileged – few from competition.
Get this:
The rest of the world has the essence of the American Dream woven into their soccer market.


And America (US Soccer), has instituted policy that rejects the American Dream!
There is No Pyramid
Access to Division 1 soccer in America is sealed off. And controlled by one single business, MLS.
You must also understand that this “league” is not simply a container which serves to host competition between self-governing and autonomous soccer clubs (ie real clubs).
NO!
There are no such clubs in our 1st division. These teams/organizations are franchises of a single centralized command & control business – a sanctioned monopoly.
What I’m going to start sharing with you this year, and the years to come, is how US Soccer’s current policy – the one which sanctions this monopoly – is at the very heart of all the problems you see in American soccer.
From the National Team level, all the way down to what’s happening with your 9 year old kid, can be derived from this one policy.
All that conventional wisdom regarding the “problems in American soccer”. Well, you’re going to see how it can be remedied by changing this policy and replacing it with one that is in line with the American Dream.
Winning at all costs?
Big, fast, strong bias?
Gold standard coaching?
College soccer stifling development?
Larger pro contracts?
Large TV ratings?
World Class players?
World class teams?
La Masia’s?
More expertise in our soccer media?
A real and consistent World Cup contender?
etc …
All that stuff gets addressed once we have policy that naturally incentivizes solutions.
A policy that stops entitling a few, and enables all people and organizations the opportunity to pursue their destinies on their own merits.
The market, not a handful of privileged shot callers, should determine what’s worthy and what’s not.
Make no mistake, this is exactly where the fight lies. And in the true sense of the word – a word I have never used here before – we have a REVOLUTION on our hands.
Choose to fight for the American Dream, or choose to reject it:
It’s up to you.

definitely wrong thread

trem_two posted:

The 1 Soccer Policy that Cripples the National Team all the way to 9 Year Olds

US Soccer not creating a true soccer pyramid with promotion & relegation.
That’s it!
You want youth development on par with the rest of the world?
You want our top flight pro teams at the level with the best in the world?
You want the National Team to consistently be a legit World Cup contender?
Well, we need a soccer pyramid – like the rest of the world – where the best can rise and the mediocre get punished.

Ho Chi Meeeeee posted:

Source.

Eboracum posted:

-----------Szczesny
Coleman--Varane--Koscielny --Shaw
-----Gündoğan---Ramsey
------------Özil
---Walcott-----------Reus
----------Balotelli

Reddit posted:

1. Of 23 penalties Webb gave 15 were to the home team - IS THAT TOO MANY?

Probability that the avg PL referee gives >= 15 home penalties out of 23 = 0.3973578

FAIL TO REJECT HYPOTHESIS THAT POST-WC-WEBB IS THE SAME AS THE AVG PL REF


2. Of 24 penalties Webb gave 4 were given in the last 15 min- IS THAT TOO FEW?

Probability that the avg PL referee gives <= 4 late penalties out of 24 = 0.2872285

FAIL TO REJECT HYPOTHESIS THAT POST-WC-WEBB IS THE SAME AS THE AVG PL REF


3. Of 11 penalties Webb gave 1 were crucial- IS THAT TOO FEW?

Probability that the avg referee gives <= 1 crucial penalties out of 11 = 0.002772367

REJECT HYPOTHESIS THAT POST-WC-WEBB IS THE SAME AS THE AVG PL REF WRT CRUCIAL PENALTIES


4. Of 23 penalties Webb gave 15 were to the home team - IS THAT TOO MANY?

Probability that pre-WC Webb gives >= 15 home penalties out of 23 = 0.280075

FAIL TO REJECT HYPOTHESIS THAT POST-WC-WEBB IS THE SAME AS PRE-WC-WEBB


5. Of 24 penalties Webb gave 4 were given in the last 15 min- IS THAT TOO FEW?

Probability that pre-WC Webb gives <= 4 late penalties out of 24 = 0.3232952

FAIL TO REJECT HYPOTHESIS THAT POST-WC-WEBB IS THE SAME AS PRE-WC-WEBB


6. Of 11 penalties Webb gave 1 were crucial- IS THAT TOO FEW?

Probability that pre-WC Webb gives <= 1 crucial penalties out of 11 = 0.001276239

REJECT HYPOTHESIS THAT POST-WC-WEBB IS THE SAME AS PRE-WC-WEBB WRT CRUCIAL PENALTIES


7. Of 22 red cards post-WC Webb gave 8 were given to the home team - IS THAT TOO FEW?

Probability that pre-WC Webb gives <= 8 home red cards out of 22 = 0.5278146

FAIL TO REJECT HYPOTHESIS THAT POST-WC-WEBB IS THE SAME AS PRE-WC-WEBB

Probability that the avg PL referee gives <= 8 home red cards out of 22 = 0.4431766

FAIL TO REJECT HYPOTHESIS THAT POST-WC-WEBB IS THE SAME AS THE AVG PL REF


8. Of 22 red cards post-WC Webb gave 1 were given with a penalty - IS THAT TOO FEW?

Probability that pre-WC Webb gives <= 1 red cards with penalty out of 22 = 0.1309911

FAIL TO REJECT HYPOTHESIS THAT POST-WC-WEBB IS THE SAME AS PRE-WC-WEBB

Probability that the avg PL referee gives <= 1 red cards with penalty out of 22 = 0.2079409

FAIL TO REJECT HYPOTHESIS THAT POST-WC-WEBB IS THE SAME AS THE AVG PL REF


9. Of 65 red cards Webb gave 0 were given early - IS THAT TOO FEW?

Probability that the avg PL referee gives <= 0 red cards early out of 65 = 0.05881382

FAIL TO REJECT HYPOTHESIS THAT POST-WC-WEBB IS THE SAME AS THE AVG PL REF

sircozzie posted:

sircozzie posted:

mackintosh posted:

Meaningless without a confidence interval, coefficient of determination and gently caress me I've slept through econometrics and don't remember anything any more, hated every second of it and this post brings back terrible memories. It truly is the worst.

quote:

Background: A Telegraph article claimed that Howard Webb bottles big decisions and that statistics proved this. I wanted to look at whether the statistics actually support the claims made in the article.

The Mash posted:

That's sort of the argument of the poster though. That statistics do not demonstrate that Webb is more biased, in part because of too small a sample size. That's the real problem though. His "background" section:




Who sits down and writes this poo poo because they felt a Telegraph article was statistically inacurate

Strawman posted:

Welbeck is the English version of Thomas Muller, an intelligent, flexible modern forward

Olewithmilk posted:

I think this is worse than the stats one.

Strawman posted:

Welbeck is the English version of Thomas Muller, an intelligent, flexible modern forward

quote:

I think every Stoke fan wants all this loving dogshit to end but for as long as the jumped martyr baits us with his pointing and "Shhhhh" celebrations and frankly cuntish statements like "an injury like mine, it's the worst thing you could have happen to you on a football pitch", he's getting it from all four sides of The Brit.

The boy is a oval office and he, along with Wenger, have dragged our captain, our club and everyone associated with the name Stoke City through the mud for four years in a factless, agenda driven, slanderous media campaign. That's why the abuse will never end. Not until he has the maturity and decency to admit it was an accident and a line has been drawn under the accident.

I won't hold my breath though.

quote:

Psyche up them tarts? I haven't seen them come down here and fancy it once myself... the hatred and intimidation is what we do well and like the pit bull if you get to know us as a breed we're bloody lovely but piss us off and we'll have yer leg!!

Ramsey is a C**t for reasons stated many times in the arsenal thread already and deserves every bit of abuse he gets.

The media hate and mock us anyway so sod what they think and say, let them call us thugs, i don't want to be the next Fulham... rather orks that than a bunch of gutless southern tarts!

I love it when there's hate in the air at these kinds of games, real buzz around the place, i remember as a young lad loving the abuse Commons got when he returned to the Brit.

Sadly peg leg can't receive that treatment on Saturday because once again he forgot to drink his milk but if we can piss a few aresnal fans off with both support for Ryan and mocking ramsey then great.

Throw in some abuse for the french twat and hey presto you've got an atmosphere... our lads will love it and with any luck will get something out of the game.

Sod rolling over, being the "bigger" men, turning the other cheek or giving them a brake, dirty arsenal bastards.

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When Ramsey admits that he was the unfortunate victim in a 50/50 challange, and not a survivor of the Texas Chainsaw massacre, then i will stop giving him poo poo. Until then the repulsive little poo poo deserves everything he gets.