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drunkill
Sep 25, 2007

me @ ur posting
Fallen Rib

Boomer The Cannon posted:

I'll add another vote for Samurai!, and also recommend Tale of A Guinea Pig by Geoffrey Page, The Last Enemy by Richard Hillary and Thunderbolt! by Robert S. Johnson.

E: Either the Canadian Warplane Heritage Museum jumped the gun for April Fools Day by 6 weeks, or you Brits are in for a special treat:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilton/canada-s-lancaster-bomber-to-cross-atlantic-for-u-k-tour-1.2546757

I wonder if Peter Jackson will try to do some filming in them or of them flying together. I think he was trying to get one of the two remaining planes down to New Zealand to film the Dambusters remake a few years ago, although that got put on the backburner when he had to direct the hobbit films. I believe it is still happening as weta have been building replica Lancaster props to film inside and had them made in china while also buying original WW2 military airfield equipment and sending it to NZ, stuff like bomb trolleys and fuel trucks.

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mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

Wingnut Ninja posted:

Anybody read Viper Pilot? I bought it last night because it was on sale for 3 bucks and had pretty good reviews. The first chapter seems decent enough, though all the initial training stuff is mainly interesting to see the contrast to Navy flight training.

Yeah, I liked it, was a fun read and provided some interesting background on training and flight operations. A bit jingoistic at some points but within understandable level.

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008


What is the hornet's angle of attack advantage over the viper?

SybilVimes
Oct 29, 2011

hobbesmaster posted:

What is the hornet's angle of attack advantage over the viper?

40° vs 30° limit (and the F22 has no AOA limiters, F35 has 50° limit)

Groda
Mar 17, 2005

Hair Elf

BobHoward posted:

The recently declassified CIA U-2 / OXCART (A-12) history touches on F-104 / U-2 crossover several times. Page 45 states that only the wings and tail were unique to the U-2, and the rest of the aircraft was made with F-104 tooling.

omg thats so hot

block51
Jun 18, 2002

Ghetto? Yes, But I still shop there.

VikingSkull posted:

The best animal sounding aircraft is the C-5. It sounds like a dinosaur :colbert:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwMFIjMPb0E

It is unmistakable. I can recall plenty of times when I would hear it and think... hey that's a C-5! and then look up and there'd be a C-5.

Kilonum
Sep 30, 2002

You know where you are? You're in the suburbs, baby. You're gonna drive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucz3JpvDQjk

Finger Prince
Jan 5, 2007


Anyone in the UK who likes Lancaster bombers (and who doesn't?), the Canadian Warplane Heritage Museum will be flying theirs to the UK in August to do a formation tour with the only other one still in existence this summer. And you'll be able to get up close and touchy feely with it (they may even let you fly on it) which I guess you can't do with the British one.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilton/news/canada-s-lancaster-bomber-to-cross-atlantic-for-u-k-tour-1.2546757

sausage paddy
Feb 25, 2009

SybilVimes posted:

and the F22 has no AOA limiters

that arouses me

thank you for the book recommendations, everyone

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

sausage paddy posted:

that arouses me

thank you for the book recommendations, everyone

Vectored thrust is cheating when it comes to super maneuvering.

helno
Jun 19, 2003

hmm now were did I leave that plane

Bullshit drone delivery marketing campaign done correctly.

MrChips
Jun 10, 2005

FLIGHT SAFETY TIP: Fatties out first

Linedance posted:

Anyone in the UK who likes Lancaster bombers (and who doesn't?), the Canadian Warplane Heritage Museum will be flying theirs to the UK in August to do a formation tour with the only other one still in existence this summer. And you'll be able to get up close and touchy feely with it (they may even let you fly on it) which I guess you can't do with the British one.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilton/news/canada-s-lancaster-bomber-to-cross-atlantic-for-u-k-tour-1.2546757

Man that trip is gonna take some serious balls. Flying a 70-year-old aircraft over one of the most unforgiving air routes in the world is a pretty daunting task, even if it has been done tens of thousands of times before.

VERTiG0
Jul 11, 2001

go move over bro

Linedance posted:

Anyone in the UK who likes Lancaster bombers (and who doesn't?), the Canadian Warplane Heritage Museum will be flying theirs to the UK in August to do a formation tour with the only other one still in existence this summer. And you'll be able to get up close and touchy feely with it (they may even let you fly on it) which I guess you can't do with the British one.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilton/news/canada-s-lancaster-bomber-to-cross-atlantic-for-u-k-tour-1.2546757

I've seen this plane flying many times (I live in the area) and it never ceases to amaze me each and every time.

Last I saw it was in March 2013, when it was undergoing a total engine teardown and rebuild on all 4. I'm really glad to hear they're confident enough in the aircraft to make that trans-Atlantic flight.

Finger Prince
Jan 5, 2007


I'd like to see the Indiana Jones route they're going to take to get there! Gander, Greenland, Iceland, Ireland...

Has anyone got that animated .gif (or video) of the vulcan flight path for operation black buck?

Captain Postal
Sep 16, 2007
Footage of a birdstrike on the windscreen from inside the cockpit. Luckily the bird bounces out of the cockpit and doesn't hurt the pilot. Not so lucky for the bird though

evil_bunnY
Apr 2, 2003


http://i.imgur.com/hBw0ACq.jpg

Nerobro
Nov 4, 2005

Rider now with 100% more titanium!
That's the "Chap, that was uncalled for. And we will reach out and slap you silly." Plan.

What had to happen to make that work, was crazy. The RAF had shut down their air to air refueling program. And they had to scrounge and rebuild, and re-equip all of their long range bombers with refueling equipment. At least one part to was in use as a ashtray in a lounge somewhere.

O-rings had to be replaced. Parts fabricated. Warehouses raided. Just so they could drop "a bomb" on "a runway" a third of the way round the world.

Kilonum
Sep 30, 2002

You know where you are? You're in the suburbs, baby. You're gonna drive.

Part of it was the RAF doing their best to prove that the USAF weren't the only ones who could hit anywhere, anytime (though as you said they had to rebuild that ability)

drunkill
Sep 25, 2007

me @ ur posting
Fallen Rib
I'm heading to an airshow this weekend and I think I'll try take some photos. Anyone want to give tips on shooting flying aircraft to somebody who hasn't really done 'sports' photography?
I've got a Canon 400D (Rebel XTi in the states) from a few years back with both a 18-55mm & 75-300mm lenses.

It's for the Centenary of Military Aviation in Australia

quote:

http://www.airforce.gov.au/Interact/Displays/Air-Shows/?RAAF-iBBIZGwstZ874cZM/cfL/Idc+u6Ro5VF
The Centenary of Military Aviation 2014 Air Show is proudly presented by the Royal Australian Air Force at RAAF Williams, Point Cook, Victoria over the weekend of 1st and 2nd March 2014.

Point Cook is the birthplace of military aviation in Australia and the oldest continually operating military airfield in the world.

Encompassing a spectacular Air Show with air displays and ground displays, the Centenary of Military Aviation is a national event celebrating 100 years of military aviation in Australia.

This isn't the International Airshow which is held nearby at Avalaon every two years (almost the same weekends) so less displays and probably no international aircraft but hey, should be good to see some of the older ones listed in the link above.

Tony Montana
Aug 6, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Put it on sports mode, which will give you a fast shutter. This will get rid of blur. If you got a long lens with it bring that, tripod too if you've got it or holding it still can be a problem. Best aircraft flying shots I've gotten are with a long zoom lens, you wanna get right up in there and see detail otherwise it'll look like the millions of other amateur and lovely shots you've seen.

Snowdens Secret
Dec 29, 2008
Someone got you a obnoxiously racist av.
It can also help to disable autofocus to keep the camera from spazzing out, and just leave the lens focussed to infinity. With some lenses you have to -slightly- pull it back from fully rotated to focus like this the best. Be sure to take a couple test shots and then review them zoomed it to make sure it's good and sharp.

Rule of thumb with shutter speed is at least 1x the zoom distance, so if you're max zoom with the 300mm you want at least 1/320 shutter speed, but the faster the better. Those lenses probably shoot best stopped down to about f/8 or so. You can bump the ISO up to 800 or so if that'll help get you the shutter speed and f-stop.

Review, review, review

echoplex
Mar 5, 2008

Stainless Style
Click for massive

MrYenko
Jun 18, 2012

#2 isn't ALWAYS bad...

echoplex posted:

Click for massive



Kodachrome 4 LYFE.

More here:

http://m.theatlantic.com/infocus/2011/08/world-war-ii-the-american-home-front-in-color/100122/

Powercube
Nov 23, 2006

I don't like that dude... I don't like THAT DUDE!
So I was in Bangladesh:

28264 and 36503 by Powercube, on Flickr

28264 by Powercube, on Flickr

2720 by Powercube, on Flickr

Prop Wash
Jun 12, 2010



:toot: I've been there, the BAF pilots are a really great bunch of guys and they keep their planes (at least the ones we got to tour) in great shape.

Powercube
Nov 23, 2006

I don't like that dude... I don't like THAT DUDE!

Prop Wash posted:

:toot: I've been there, the BAF pilots are a really great bunch of guys and they keep their planes (at least the ones we got to tour) in great shape.

I know, right! Those guys are a seriously ferocious bunch, I was not expecting them to be so professional and well trained- but they seem to get an absolute fuckload of flying hours compared to most air forces in the region. To be honest, I can't wait to go back to Bangladesh.

Where'd you stay in Dhaka? Regency?

Prop Wash
Jun 12, 2010



Radisson Blu, very convenient distance away (especially since the hartals were on while we were there). Plus the food was great. I've actually got a pretty funny story about our visit that I'll write up tomorrow.

Kia Soul Enthusias
May 9, 2004

zoom-zoom
Toilet Rascal

quote:

5
An American pineapple, of the kind the Axis finds hard to digest, is ready to leave the hand of an infantryman in training at Fort Belvoir, Virginia. (Alfred Palmer/OWI/LOC)
Great caption.

Saga
Aug 17, 2009

No 38 - "colored mechanic". Presumably working on a colored jeep. :reject:

SybilVimes
Oct 29, 2011
Pic #32 is bit of a puzzle, it CLAIMS to be a waist gunner in a YB-17.

But by 1942 the YB-17s were all pretty much scrap.

Y1B17A would still be around at that time, but it's doubtful it would have it's weapons retained as it was an engine testbed. Indeed, pictures of it as early as '38 show the blisters having been converted to observation-only areas without any weapon mount or weapon.

The B-17B was the only operational B-17 that had waist gun positions, but by 1942 they'd been redesignated RB-17s and used for training & transport. While they would have been in Texas - and thus viable for the photo shoot - they were never officially had a YB designation as they were production models, so why would the photo be labelled a YB-17 when it wouldn't make sense? The only real option would be if the photographer asked why it wasn't like the other B-17s and was told, or assumed, that it was an experimental variant, but then if he cared that much, surely he'd get the correct info, and AF personnel would likely get it right, IME.

The YB-40 would have been around in Texas as it had just been passed to the AAF for testing, and it did regain the waist gun blister pods, so maybe it's a YB-40, but then you'd expect it to be labelled correctly, or just labelled as 'B-17' if the photographer was being lazy/inaccurate. Except if the YB-40 program was secret, but I doubt they'd have let someone take a photo of the inside of one if it was.

CroatianAlzheimers
Jun 15, 2009

I can't remember why I'm mad at you...


SybilVimes posted:

Picture 32

That's easy. I worked as a commercial and editorial photographer for about ten years, and I can assure you the majority of professional photographers are an obnoxious blend of arrogance and ignorance. Dude probably thought the fact that he knew his way around a camera, and that he knew what an airplane looked like, made him an aviation expert. Also, don't forget that the copy on these photos was likely heavily edited by the War Department, so that caption reads exactly how the War Department wants it to.

Acid Reflux
Oct 18, 2004

DAMMIT.

There's been a B-1B sitting on the National Guard's ramp in Bangor, ME for the last couple of weeks due to maintenance problems. We've been eagerly awaiting its departure so we can get some good pics/video...and the bastard just left, 6:40-ish PM. He did, however, fly right over my house so I at least got to see the warming glow of those hot, hot cans. :D

Ola
Jul 19, 2004

azflyboy posted:

It's not entirely WW2, but Ernest Gann's Fate Is the Hunter is probably one of the best flying related books ever written.

Lending weight to this. I bought this book to my doctor friend after talking about, well, fate being the hunter. If you do high risk stuff, it searches for you and it will find you.


Seeing Clarkson say "oh ye of little faith" in last Top Gear made me remember this internet classic:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pcZXZ9WzBc

Kilonum
Sep 30, 2002

You know where you are? You're in the suburbs, baby. You're gonna drive.

Acid Reflux posted:

DAMMIT.

There's been a B-1B sitting on the National Guard's ramp in Bangor, ME for the last couple of weeks due to maintenance problems. We've been eagerly awaiting its departure so we can get some good pics/video...and the bastard just left, 6:40-ish PM. He did, however, fly right over my house so I at least got to see the warming glow of those hot, hot cans. :D

To be fair, it's warmer at both B-1 bases than it is at Bangor (though not by much at Ellsworth)

Madurai
Jun 26, 2012

SybilVimes posted:

Pic #32 is bit of a puzzle, it CLAIMS to be a waist gunner in a YB-17.

But by 1942 the YB-17s were all pretty much scrap.

Y1B17A would still be around at that time, but it's doubtful it would have it's weapons retained as it was an engine testbed. Indeed, pictures of it as early as '38 show the blisters having been converted to observation-only areas without any weapon mount or weapon.

The B-17B was the only operational B-17 that had waist gun positions, but by 1942 they'd been redesignated RB-17s and used for training & transport. While they would have been in Texas - and thus viable for the photo shoot - they were never officially had a YB designation as they were production models, so why would the photo be labelled a YB-17 when it wouldn't make sense? The only real option would be if the photographer asked why it wasn't like the other B-17s and was told, or assumed, that it was an experimental variant, but then if he cared that much, surely he'd get the correct info, and AF personnel would likely get it right, IME.

The YB-40 would have been around in Texas as it had just been passed to the AAF for testing, and it did regain the waist gun blister pods, so maybe it's a YB-40, but then you'd expect it to be labelled correctly, or just labelled as 'B-17' if the photographer was being lazy/inaccurate. Except if the YB-40 program was secret, but I doubt they'd have let someone take a photo of the inside of one if it was.

Didn't the YB-40 have the waist guns upped to twins anyway?

Jonny Nox
Apr 26, 2008




this page has been pretty great.

have some tracker/banshee porn.

apparently Canada could support an Aircraft Carrier wing at one time?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmFD5bijrok

Prop Wash
Jun 12, 2010



Prop Wash posted:

Radisson Blu, very convenient distance away (especially since the hartals were on while we were there). Plus the food was great. I've actually got a pretty funny story about our visit that I'll write up tomorrow.

Right so yeah, we went over for a joint USAF/BAF exercise and everyone was great to us the whole time. We fly Hercs, they fly Hercs (and theirs are much prettier despite being B models), and their fighter guys came over to hang out. So during the planning conference someone came up with the great idea to just have a soccer game during a down day, like just a nice friendly soccer game between their guys and our guys. So the day of the game we all change out of our work clothes and throw on some athletic shoes, shorts, just whatever we brought with us to exercise in, and hop the bus over. The first sign that anything is wrong is when we pull up and step out onto the literal red carpet they have extended for us. Then we realize that there are about 500 Bangladeshis sitting around in some very nice chairs ready to watch the Big Game. And that's about when we see the Bangladesh Air Force's official soccer team warming up in their matching uniforms and cleats.

It was a pretty brutal game, like at the end they started feeling bad for us so they passed us the ball a couple of times in hopes we'd score. We actually did, once or twice, but it was a little forced. We even got one of the women on our team to score, at which point the assembled crowd started laughing.

The story we heard later is that it ended up being a miscommunication between the BAF pilots and whoever ran the base, because they weren't expecting it either, but we all agreed that it was pretty hilarious.

Only tangentially related to aircraft but way more interesting than VISRECCE!

Powercube
Nov 23, 2006

I don't like that dude... I don't like THAT DUDE!

Yeah, I can see that being a thing. Some people there speak perfect English, some people speak no english. All the rest, however, think they speak perfect English.

At least they are all genuinely awesome (other than the gangsters).

Cabbage Disrespect
Apr 24, 2009

ROBUST COMBAT
Leonard Riflepiss
Soiled Meat

Acid Reflux posted:

DAMMIT.

There's been a B-1B sitting on the National Guard's ramp in Bangor, ME for the last couple of weeks due to maintenance problems. We've been eagerly awaiting its departure so we can get some good pics/video...and the bastard just left, 6:40-ish PM. He did, however, fly right over my house so I at least got to see the warming glow of those hot, hot cans. :D

WHY DIDN'T I KNOW THIS AAARGH

I would've been there if I'd had the slightest idea :negative:

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Dr. Despair
Nov 4, 2009


39 perfect posts with each roll.

drunkill posted:

I'm heading to an airshow this weekend and I think I'll try take some photos. Anyone want to give tips on shooting flying aircraft to somebody who hasn't really done 'sports' photography?
I've got a Canon 400D (Rebel XTi in the states) from a few years back with both a 18-55mm & 75-300mm lenses.

It's for the Centenary of Military Aviation in Australia


This isn't the International Airshow which is held nearby at Avalaon every two years (almost the same weekends) so less displays and probably no international aircraft but hey, should be good to see some of the older ones listed in the link above.

First off, don't put your camera in sports mode. Put it in shutter priority mode. Now if you're shooting something with props, you'll want your shutter speed somewhat low, shoot for more around 1/200 or 1/300 tops, you don't want to freeze the props cause it'll just look weird and unnatural.

For jets you're probably good shooting 1/500 or higher as the light allows. Be prepared to pan with the slower shutter speeds to keep things sharp if it's moving fast.

For more indepth advice read this thread, it's the dorkrooms aviation photos thread. Has a pretty solid OP. http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3577745

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