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HalloKitty posted:Now that's gangsta. If I had something that high DPI, I'd definitely set it to 100% to see what it's like. Maybe I'd leave it that way, but I don't know. Not a fan of screens that require scaling - don't know why it's suddenly become a massive problem to see a pixel. Seems like the market is swinging wildly both ways right now, though. Either you have a lovely 1366x768 screen, or something that requires scaling to be seen easily. The middle ground is lost. In standalone displays, 1080p is basically standard now. QUALITY 1080p is a different story but not too hard to find. In portable devices, it still exists in 'worth buying' models, it's just... like, a handful each of inertia-designed laptops and dockable Real Motherfucking Windows tablets (and ten times as many ConsumptionOS devices). dont be mean to me fucked around with this message at 12:49 on Feb 24, 2014 |
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Malkar posted:How much of a pain in the rear end is dual monitoring different resolutions? Trying to decide whether to get a 2560 and use my current (fairly old) 1920 as a secondary. Though, I'm also curious as to how a 2560 looks when gaming in 1920. Am I going to regret the decision until I can upgrade my GPU? I have a 7870 at the moment, and I'm fairly sure it's not good enough to pump out high quality 2560x1440 gameplay I use a U3014 primary next to a 2412 secondary. The only downside is that the 3014's AG coating is lightyears better than the 2412's so it makes the smaller screen look a little bad in that respect. The size differences aren't a big deal though. You will absolutely need a lot more graphics horsepower than a 7870 to enjoy a 2560 monitor though.
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Hey guys, a monitor is the last thing I need for my new build. I found a daily deal for a Dell E2414H for $160. I noticed the Dell Ultrasharps are highly recommended, but I wasn't sure about this one. I like the price, but would prefer if someone could confirm that that's a good deal.
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FrenzyTheKillbot posted:Hey guys, a monitor is the last thing I need for my new build. I found a daily deal for a Dell E2414H for $160. I noticed the Dell Ultrasharps are highly recommended, but I wasn't sure about this one. I like the price, but would prefer if someone could confirm that that's a good deal. It's a TN panel, so don't get it. The Ultrasharps are way better, an you should get one of those instead if you can. But, if you don't like the price hike, go for the S series instead. I have an s2440l, it's some VA pseudo IPS whatnot, but still looks really nice; I was apprehensive of how glossy it was but the gloss makes the colors looks real nice 'n pop-y. You can get one on Amazon for like $180. Or if you want real deal IPS you can get that 24" ASUS whatever it's called for around $230.
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Good Will Hrunting posted:Do you 1440p'ers boost the default text size of your operating system? I've only been using it for a few days but I feel like I'm going to go blind with the default Windows font size. I would if Windows (even 8.1) wasn't so completely terrible with font size changes 
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Ruin Completely posted:It's a TN panel, so don't get it. The Ultrasharps are way better, an you should get one of those instead if you can. But, if you don't like the price hike, go for the S series instead. I have an s2440l, it's some VA pseudo IPS whatnot, but still looks really nice; I was apprehensive of how glossy it was but the gloss makes the colors looks real nice 'n pop-y. You can get one on Amazon for like $180. Or if you want real deal IPS you can get that 24" ASUS whatever it's called for around $230. Oh ok thanks. I didn't even realize Dell made TN monitors so I didn't check. I might just pony up and get an Ultrasharps since I know they're good. Do you have any more info on that Asus one, or where it was talked about in the thread? Edit: actually don't worry about it. Gonna get the U2312HM for $230. It's within my budget and I know it's good. FrenzyTheKillbot fucked around with this message at 20:14 on Feb 24, 2014 |
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The panel in my new X-Star sat a little too low in its housing, but poster tape seems to work as a decent spacer: I wish I could find something more pliable and with stronger adhesive, but between the weight of the panel and the front bezel keeping it somewhat captive, these aren't going anywhere.
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Question, since everyone seems to discourage getting a TN panel, why are they recommended in the OP for gamers?
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ChaosArgate posted:Question, since everyone seems to discourage getting a TN panel, why are they recommended in the OP for gamers? Faster refresh rates mostly. Also; gamers aren't concerned with color accuracy that IPS would aid with. 
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jink posted:Faster refresh rates mostly. Also; gamers aren't concerned with color accuracy that IPS would aid with. No, unless you're on a 144Hz TN, all monitors are the same in that regard. The argument would be for pixel response time, but I've been playing around with my new P2414H and with its unnoticeable RTC it has similar response times than my 5yo TN panel, which at the time I acquired it was recommended as an excellent gaming monitor and still is. Outside from the aforementioned outlier case, there's no reason to get a TN panel besides being too cheap to spend $50 dollars in the single most significant part of the computer.
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Nephilm posted:Outside from the aforementioned outlier case, there's no reason to get a TN panel besides being too cheap to spend $50 dollars in the single most significant part of the computer.
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If you have a huge boner for G-Sync, TN is still the only game in town. I actually bought that one monitor compatible with the DIY kit in anticipation, but now I'm reselling it after getting a taste of IPS. I'd rather watch the screen tearing than having my whole image washed out.
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Zero VGS posted:If you have a huge boner for G-Sync, TN is still the only game in town. I actually bought that one monitor compatible with the DIY kit in anticipation, but now I'm reselling it after getting a taste of IPS. I'd rather watch the screen tearing than having my whole image washed out. Or just turn on V-Sync and take the 2-5 FPS drop. Or overclock your monitor to 80Hz 
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Zero VGS posted:If you have a huge boner for G-Sync, TN is still the only game in town. I actually bought that one monitor compatible with the DIY kit in anticipation, but now I'm reselling it after getting a taste of IPS. I'd rather watch the screen tearing than having my whole image washed out. I've seen tales that Overlord is waiting to get g-sync upgrade kits for Korean monitors. I haven't gone looking for direct confirmation of that yet, though.
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Nephilm posted:Or just turn on V-Sync and take the 2-5 FPS drop. Or overclock your monitor to 80Hz
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TheRationalRedditor posted:V-sync has its own pretty common problems that I personally find much worse than tearing, like increased input lag. Have you tried putting the Maximum pre-rendered frames setting in your GPU control panel to the lowest? Fixed every input lag vsync problem I ever had in any game
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Does Overlord even stock anything, ever? I've idly checked back with them now and then for months, and I don't think they've ever had any of their 27" monitors not listed as Sold Out. Ever.
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What do you guys think about something like this to replace a 5 year old LCD TV and two 20" Dell monitors, mostly used for spreadsheet type work? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824005390
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Smashing Link posted:What do you guys think about something like this to replace a 5 year old LCD TV and two 20" Dell monitors, mostly used for spreadsheet type work? Large format 1080p screens never feel or look that great. Stick to a smaller screen.
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My buddy bought this monitor a bit back and hasn't really been using it, he just keeps his pc hooked up to his TV, I'm building a new PC and interested in a new monitor he's offering it to me for $100, it's in basically brand new condition can't tell it's ever been used but for not much more I can get a brand new monitor, my question is, do you guys notice anything about this that seems off, the few reviews I can find seem almost overly glowing about it and obviously it's the official MLG monitor so it's got great low input lag (if that makes sense lol)and from what little I saw him play on it the colors seemed fine if not amazing. Just looking for some quick thoughts if anyone has any. If it seems like a decent deal and I can help out a buddy I'm all for it. I'd be doing 1080p gaming and webbrowsing and some video watching and thats about it.
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Wasabi the J posted:Large format 1080p screens never feel or look that great. Stick to a smaller screen. I have a 23.8" monitor and sometimes wish it was bigger. What you're comfortable with depends a lot on your setup. Disappointing Pie posted:My buddy bought this monitor a bit back and hasn't really been using it, he just keeps his pc hooked up to his TV, I'm building a new PC and interested in a new monitor he's offering it to me for $100, it's in basically brand new condition can't tell it's ever been used but for not much more I can get a brand new monitor, my question is, do you guys notice anything about this that seems off, the few reviews I can find seem almost overly glowing about it and obviously it's the official MLG monitor so it's got great low input lag (if that makes sense lol)and from what little I saw him play on it the colors seemed fine if not amazing. It's a 60Hz TN monitor. Nephilm posted:Outside from (G-sync and 120+Hz), there's no reason to get a TN panel besides being too cheap to spend $50 dollars in the single most significant part of the computer.
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I can't find the Auria EQ276W at Microcenter anywhere and haven't seen it in stock in a long while. Are there any clones/competitors I should look at in the $400 27" 1440p range?
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ShaneB posted:I can't find the Auria EQ276W at Microcenter anywhere and haven't seen it in stock in a long while. Are there any clones/competitors I should look at in the $400 27" 1440p range? Why don't you order one from Korea? Do you need the extra inputs? If not then something like this works.
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1997 posted:Why don't you order one from Korea? Do you need the extra inputs? If not then something like this works. Nice. Are the perfect pixel ones usually worth it?
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Paul MaudDib posted:4K seems to be on the horizon at this point. The ASUS PB287Q is going to do 4K @ 60hz for $800 sometime in Q2. What kind of GPU are you going to need to drive something like that at reasonable (non-Ultra) settings? A very very powerful one. It's literally 4x the pixels of 1080p so.... Stuff like a 290x doesn't even really make high-end games at 4k very playable: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-r9-290x-hawaii-review,3650-17.html
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ShaneB posted:Nice. Are the perfect pixel ones usually worth it? Most Korean IPS monitors are glossy, though I have heard some have an awful grainy matte finish with a terrible anti-glare coating. The PLS monitors come in glossy and VERY fine matte, fine enough not to cause visible grain. In general glossy monitors provide better image quality and no glare, EXCEPT if you have bright lights at an angle that will reflect them directly, in which case you need matte. Avoid monitors labelled "glass front", these have a sheet of tempered glass in front of the panel for kiosk/cafe usage and this affects image quality seriously. Pixel perfect monitors are not worth paying for, if they test them at all it's not thoroughly, so there is no change in your chance of getting a dead pixel.
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I've had both LG IPS and Samsung PLS panels, and I think I prefer PLS because they seem to have more vibrant color and better backlight/color uniformity based on my personal experience. I don't think I've made the same observations about the matte AG coating between the two OEMs. My current X-Star's matte finish is pretty much indistinguishable from LG-paneled monitors I've used in the past, such as the Dell U2713H/HM and HP ZR2740w. Same with the IPS glow; aside from the U2713H, which is a bit of an oddball and not for general purpose use anyway, the amount of glow has been similar between all IPS/PLS monitor's I've viewed in the past. I can't say I've seen many glossy PLS panels around- that's probably more of an LG thing due to OEM demand. In fact, the only true glossy Korean PLS monitor I've seen was one that only just showed up within the last month: the Monex M27QSM. I haven't heard much talk about it, so I have no idea how it stacks up to the X-Star/QNIX or anything else with the LTM270DL02 PLS panel. Zorilla fucked around with this message at 01:18 on Feb 27, 2014 |
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Zorilla posted:The panel in my new X-Star sat a little too low in its housing, but poster tape seems to work as a decent spacer: Some guy wrote a guide on completely de-bezelling them and remounting the vesa with epoxy.  They look badass, but christ the amount of work and sperging required makes them basically not worth it. http://www.overclock.net/t/1404407/how-to-create-a-vesa-mount-after-debezelling-your-monitor-qnix-qx2710 This is after he sprayed it with canned powder coating. I wouldn't mind popping the front bezel off and doing the same to it. I don't really like all the buzzword specs being etched into the bezel, or the highly reflective plastic. quaker69 fucked around with this message at 01:18 on Feb 27, 2014 |
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Zorilla posted:I've had both LG IPS and Samsung PLS panels, and I think I prefer PLS because they seem to have more vibrant color and better backlight/color uniformity based on my personal experience. I have a glossy Dell 23" IPS right now (a cheaper one from Microcenter) and I love the color fidelity for photography work and general niceness, but I have 3 windows 12 feet behind me and the glare during the day gets kind of old. I guess I should go for the matte PLS?
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BrettRobb posted:Some guy wrote a guide on completely de-bezelling them and remounting the vesa with epoxy. Yeah, that is a bit extreme for me too. Which is to bad, because the problem I've had with panel positioning seems to be part of a larger fit and finish issue specific to my new X-Star. In addition to the monitor sitting too low by default, it has a really bad convex bow in the rear shell of the housing that causes the bottom center of the front bezel to stick way out when reassembled, revealing a big gap. The part is perfectly straight when taken off. All of these Korean monitors that use this style of housing have a tiny bit of warping there, even though the rear shell is usually perfectly straight, but this one way beyond what is typical. Unfortunately, the panel has more "give" than the housing, so I can't really fix it with strategically placed padding. That would just caused the panel to bend to conform to the housing. Zorilla fucked around with this message at 02:28 on Feb 27, 2014 |
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ShaneB posted:I have a glossy Dell 23" IPS right now (a cheaper one from Microcenter) and I love the color fidelity for photography work and general niceness, but I have 3 windows 12 feet behind me and the glare during the day gets kind of old. I guess I should go for the matte PLS? I'm not sure, to be honest. I use a FIRST FSM-270YG at work, which is an earlier Korean 27" IPS monitor that uses the same style housing as the QNIX and X-Star, but has the same LG LM270WQ1 glossy panel as the 2010 iMac 27". I use it in a office with lots and lots of big windows, and despite it being a glossy panel, it does such a good job of suppressing glare that I can use it in just about any lighting conditions. It even seems to do well where matte panels would go hazy. The only time I even see a reflection on it is when I'm displaying something dark. In your situation, since you have three windows directly behind you, facing your screen, then I would probably stick with a matte panel. As big as the windows are in my office, they're to the side and in front of me, so glare isn't as big of an issue there. If you have a monitor with edge-to-edge glass, that could be part of the problem. Monitors like the Dell S2340M reportedly have quite a bit of glare because of this. The glossy surface of the panel itself seems to do a great job of creating a nice, clear, straight finish with very little glare, but once you add another layer of glass like you see on the S2340M or most Apple products, then the situation gets worse. Zorilla fucked around with this message at 02:23 on Feb 27, 2014 |
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BrettRobb posted:Some guy wrote a guide on completely de-bezelling them and remounting the vesa with epoxy. I would buy one of those instantly if they were actually sold like that. What kind of a stupid industry thinks it's a good idea to wrap a monitor in cheap-rear end looking plastic?
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Zorilla posted:I don't think I've made the same observations about the matte AG coating between the two OEMs. My current X-Star's matte finish is pretty much indistinguishable from LG-paneled monitors I've used in the past, such as the Dell U2713H/HM and HP ZR2740w. Same with the IPS glow; aside from the U2713H, which is a bit of an oddball and not for general purpose use anyway, the amount of glow has been similar between all IPS/PLS monitor's I've viewed in the past. quote:I can't say I've seen many glossy PLS panels around- that's probably more of an LG thing due to OEM demand. In fact, the only true glossy Korean PLS monitor I've seen was one that only just showed up within the last month: the Monex M27QSM. I haven't heard much talk about it, so I have no idea how it stacks up to the X-Star/QNIX or anything else with the LTM270DL02 PLS panel. KingEup posted:What kind of a stupid industry thinks it's a good idea to wrap a monitor in cheap-rear end looking plastic?
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Alereon posted:The kind that is buying defective (A-) panels at a deep discount, connecting it to electronics at the lowest possible costs, and then selling them at whatever markup they can get overseas? Wouldn't it be cheaper to not bother manufacturing a plastic case and stand?
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KingEup posted:Wouldn't it be cheaper to not bother manufacturing a plastic case and stand?
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KingEup posted:I would buy one of those instantly if they were actually sold like that. On the backside of the monitor everything is completely exposed. I may give up having a second monitor for a bit give it a try. I've already taken them apart twice to remove the stand and glass, so I am pretty comfortable with them at this point.
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Malkar posted:How much of a pain in the rear end is dual monitoring different resolutions? Trying to decide whether to get a 2560 and use my current (fairly old) 1920 as a secondary. Though, I'm also curious as to how a 2560 looks when gaming in 1920. Am I going to regret the decision until I can upgrade my GPU? I have a 7870 at the moment, and I'm fairly sure it's not good enough to pump out high quality 2560x1440 gameplay I'll go the other way and say it's not a big deal at all. I have a 32" 1080p TV on my desk next to my 1440p monitors and it doesn't bother me at all when I'm moving windows or whatever. I like having them all aligned at the top since I don't typically have the mouse at the bottom of the screen when I move across monitors.
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Quick update, I went ahead and did the opposite of what I was going to do and just bought one of the Korean IPS', a QNIX QX2710. No dead pixels, and only a bit of backlight bleed from the lower left. The only issue I've had with using two monitors is realizing just how CRAP the colors and the display were/are on my old 1080. Looking between the two, it's kind of depressing that I never noticed just how washed out my cheapo 23 inch was.
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