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Also I was looking up some stuff to see if GSC were on GBC carts and I found this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desert_Punk It is an anime that takes place in The Great Kanto Desert, which is in post apocalyptic Japan.
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Craptacular! posted:Why the gently caress is the barrier to Democracy so high. It seems like the person running the channel put it there just because he thinks Anarchy is more fun or something. This is explained if you scroll down on the twitch page. Basically by requiring a higher barrier to enter democracy a larger portion of the chat needs to be all for it. This reduces the amount of people trolling during democracy, because why would you vote for democracy then start9 spam? Ok I'm sure plenty of people have done exactly that but the implementation as is has resulted in democracy having a chance to do something rather than getting spammed to oblivion in just a minute.
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Grinning Goblin posted:Also I was looking up some stuff to see if GSC were on GBC carts and I found this: That would be because Kanto is the name of a real region of Japan 
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Ablative posted:That would be because Kanto is the name of a real region of Japan I hope this will explain something. 
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Feb 27, 2014 04:18
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Ramengank posted:This is explained if you scroll down on the twitch page. I read it, but it's headache-inducing. "The equal 75%". What.  As far as I can tell, people can spam nonsense in any mode. The only thing stopping them is the speed of chat moving so fast that someone may randomly cancel them out.
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Feb 27, 2014 04:18
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Craptacular! posted:I read it, but it's headache-inducing. "The equal 75%". What. Houle posted:I just realized the shape of the original pokedex was a really weird folding binder. Now only did it fold left to right between the whole pokedex list and the menus on the right but each pokemon entry folded downward. So you would have 151 downward overlapping folds closed in left to right....all this despite the entire thing being shown as an electronic device in all media. The way you describe it here is making me think it's designed like an unfolding rolodex. Ramengank fucked around with this message at 04:23 on Feb 27, 2014 |
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Feb 27, 2014 04:21
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argondamn posted:I've read this like three times and I have no idea what you're talking about. Sorry,I wasn't quite sure how to describe it. When you open up the Pokedex menu it shows the fold along vertically. Such as the whole list of pokemon are on the left while the options (cry, data, etc) are on the right. When you select a pokemon it shows the binder coils/folds (similar to the designs in the manual that came with the game) going horizontal whereas the picture of the pokemomn and basic information is on the top while the description is on the bottom. So taking that into account that it is a book/diary looking thing in Gen1 games (hitech device everywhere else) it is a weird book that folds left to right duotang style that has folds upon folds for each pokemon (unless each pokemon was a card then I suppose it could be a very simplified accordion style binder-book thing  Best sort of illustration I could think of.
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Feb 27, 2014 04:23
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Our Nidoking is becoming super swole with all of this training against Poison-types. If they manage to teach him Earthquake, he'll be on the same level as AA-J and Bird Jesus by the time we get to the Elite 4.
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Feb 27, 2014 04:23
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Zamujasa posted:They weren't running out of space so much as they ran out of space on that particular ROM they were building it for, and increasing the ROM size increases costs, since generally sizes are powers of 2. And to add to this, even if they were bumping up against the hard limit of what a Game Boy can address from a cart (I don't know what that is off the top of my head), cartridge based games had ways around that and they're almost always used in the later days of those systems. The big factor here was manufacturing cost.
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Feb 27, 2014 04:23
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Grinning Goblin posted:I was under the impression that GB carts were 1 MB in size and GBC carts had 4mb. Would they have been able to use a GBC cartridge for Gen II Gold/Silver and still have it work on an original Gameboy though? Anyway, sounds like it was 1MB vs. 2MB and that worked via whatever magic was necessary.
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Feb 27, 2014 04:26
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What on earth are you talking about? The Pokedex is clearly digital and referred to as such even in the Gen 1 games.
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Feb 27, 2014 04:26
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Houle posted:Sorry,I wasn't quite sure how to describe it. When you open up the Pokedex menu it shows the fold along vertically. Such as the whole list of pokemon are on the left while the options (cry, data, etc) are on the right. When you select a pokemon it shows the binder coils/folds (similar to the designs in the manual that came with the game) going horizontal whereas the picture of the pokemomn and basic information is on the top while the description is on the bottom. http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:Pok%C3%A9dex_RBY.png You seem to think the squares are like the spiral binds of a notebook rather than a graphical conceit. Can I ask where this idea comes from?
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Alabaster White posted:What on earth are you talking about? The Pokedex is clearly digital and referred to as such even in the Gen 1 games. The designs of the pokedex itself matches the design on the instruction manual. Including the sprite of the pokedex being a book. Is it digital in the original ver 1 green? It could have been something that started out as a diary but then later turned into a digital creation. Even if it's just a patterned display the edges look like a book seam.
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Feb 27, 2014 04:28
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Zamujasa posted:Completely wrong (the graphics absolutely are, and back pictures are stored half-size to save more space). They just weren't compressed well. If you look for RBY hacking guides a lot of the data, such as the game's text, trainer data, or encounter tables, can be easily modified in-place without compressing anything, so I wonder how much is actually compressed. Hell, you can even see all the map tiles and sprites if you open up RBY in TileMolester or similar.
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Feb 27, 2014 04:30
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Did I miss omanyte evolving yet?
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Feb 27, 2014 04:34
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something posted:Did I miss omanyte evolving yet? They cancelled it. 
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Feb 27, 2014 04:35
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something posted:Did I miss omanyte evolving yet? Well, there was an attempt....
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Houle posted:Sorry,I wasn't quite sure how to describe it. When you open up the Pokedex menu it shows the fold along vertically. Such as the whole list of pokemon are on the left while the options (cry, data, etc) are on the right. When you select a pokemon it shows the binder coils/folds (similar to the designs in the manual that came with the game) going horizontal whereas the picture of the pokemomn and basic information is on the top while the description is on the bottom. It's an interesting idea, but, like I said before, Oak actually uses that exact word, "hi-tech", when he's giving it to you in Red/Blue.  Also he tells you it automatically fills itself in when you encounter new pokemon. Odds are pretty high he's describing an electronic device rather than calling a magical paper rolodex "hi-tech".
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Remora posted:http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:Pok%C3%A9dex_RBY.png Could be mis-remembering a faux leather strap book. That or I've been watching a steam off and on of 40k people grinding. Since playing the game the thought never occurred to me before, but now I can't unsee it.
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Feb 27, 2014 04:36
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SWMadness posted:They cancelled it. Why? I mean at least with Drowzee there was some rational behind cancelling it's evolution.
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Feb 27, 2014 04:36
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Houle posted:The designs of the pokedex itself matches the design on the instruction manual. Including the sprite of the pokedex being a book. Is it digital in the original ver 1 green? It could have been something that started out as a diary but then later turned into a digital creation. Even if it's just a patterned display the edges look like a book seam. There is that whole "automatically records upon capture" thing that was always present in US releases, maybe not so in the original Red/Green? It might explain some of the batshit insane entries that appear there if it was just your main character making stuff up and manually writing it down. But in reality it was probably just a graphical design choice for the always purely digital Pokedex pages.
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SatansBestBuddy posted:Why? Blind devotion to the cult of the Helix? I dunno.
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Iny posted:It's an interesting idea, but, like I said before, Oak actually uses that exact word, "hi-tech", when he's giving it to you in Red/Blue. I'm probably entirely wrong in this, I'm not really trying to argue this brand new discovery or whatever. It was more just me looking at the binder and seeing the book-shaped design in the background rather than a pokedex-shape. What an NPC says too to explain game mechanics (not having to put in the information yourself) is ehhh. Of course I am completely wrong and it's a non-issue. Just I don't really know how great the translations were
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Houle posted:Could be mis-remembering a faux leather strap book. That or I've been watching a steam off and on of 40k people grinding. Since playing the game the thought never occurred to me before, but now I can't unsee it. That's the manual cover, which is called the Trainer's Guide, in which there is no actual depiction of a Pokedex.
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Feb 27, 2014 04:39
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Rei_ posted:Man, Gary really still is the best Rival the series has ever had, isn't he? Like he's just such a prick about the whole thing, and you spend the entire game looking forward to kicking his rear end, and he always stays just one step ahead of you the entire time somehow. I liked how Black and White did it best--you had one smug nerd rival who thought himself better than you and a friendlier rival in Bianca who you were always one step ahead of. I wish they'd go as far as to have an outright douchebag rival again, but Black and White worked perfectly fine. In my dream Pokemon game, you'd have two rivals like that, and the smug one beats you to being Pokemon champion like Gary did...but then you beat him, and the friendly rival who's always been behind you strolls up, and has to fight YOU. I find with X and Y, players with Calem as a rival tended to hate the Friend Squad way more than players with Serena. I gather that Calem is a total chump. They really, really dropped the ball with those guys, though. Shauna and Trevor were irksome and while I liked the idea of a kid who wants to make a Pokemon dance team, Tierno's nicknames for everyone made him the most obnoxious dude.
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This is actually a fairly decent place to grind for like 3/4 of the folks that need grinding up. It'd be a better place if Nidoking had a Ground move instead of, you know, Focus Energy. But who's counting?
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Feb 27, 2014 04:41
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Ramengank posted:This is explained if you scroll down on the twitch page. Basically by requiring a higher barrier to enter democracy a larger portion of the chat needs to be all for it. This reduces the amount of people trolling during democracy, because why would you vote for democracy then start9 spam? Ok I'm sure plenty of people have done exactly that but the implementation as is has resulted in democracy having a chance to do something rather than getting spammed to oblivion in just a minute. Honestly, it was likely more to do something to shut up the insufferable "Anarchy is the only way to play!  " people than anything else.It's pretty clear that he never took into account the group of people using scripts to spam "anarchy" every 30 seconds or so, though.
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Houle posted:I'm probably entirely wrong in this, I'm not really trying to argue this brand new discovery or whatever. It was more just me looking at the binder and seeing the book-shaped design in the background rather than a pokedex-shape. What an NPC says too to explain game mechanics (not having to put in the information yourself) is ehhh. Of course I am completely wrong and it's a non-issue. Just I don't really know how great the translations were Just because it's an electronic device doesn't mean its UI can't be styled after non-electronic things like a binder or somesuch.
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For fucks sake this is what the pokedex looks like  Its a digital pocket encyclopedia. I don't know how you could interpret it as anything else
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Never thought I'd see a skeuomorphism discussion in a Pokémon thread.Rurea posted:For fucks sake this is what the pokedex looks like I wonder if you could get it to play RBY.
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nerdbot posted:I liked how Black and White did it best--you had one smug nerd rival who thought himself better than you and a friendlier rival in Bianca who you were always one step ahead of. I wish they'd go as far as to have an outright douchebag rival again, but Black and White worked perfectly fine. In my dream Pokemon game, you'd have two rivals like that, and the smug one beats you to being Pokemon champion like Gary did...but then you beat him, and the friendly rival who's always been behind you strolls up, and has to fight YOU. Serena's just robotic and bland. Despite having the exact same lines, Calem just comes off as a smug prick. He's always a step behind, but still acts like he's the Best Around. Its like Blue, but without anything that shows Blue to be a success and with way less charisma.
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nerdbot posted:In my dream Pokemon game, you'd have two rivals like that, and the smug one beats you to being Pokemon champion like Gary did...but then you beat him, and the friendly rival who's always been behind you strolls up, and has to fight YOU. This would be the best twist since Gen2 Kanto.
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Rurea posted:For fucks sake this is what the pokedex looks like I know that's the pokedex in just about every form of media for that generation. Including the tiger electronic one I had. I was merely looking at how the pokedex was displayed in the game that predates the anime "dexter" (which I presumed that was based off) and thought about what it looked in my head. Though I completely concede to it being simply a pattern that I misinterpreted as a duo-tang ringed sectioned off folding paper abomination. I am curious to see what other art came out of the game before the tv show. GRB always felt a little magical in how everything looked sorta off despite being the official art assets.
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Since X/Y's story came up, the whole ending with Team Flare was a huge letdown. It sort of builds up over the course of the game and there's no real resolution, just "Let's fight!" and then the weapon blows itself up. gently caress, they even let you push the big red button. It'd be great to see a game with an actual dark, twist storyline ending for once.
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This will never happen, but I wish they would give you a rival who actually has a kickass team at unfair levels—design it so that you're supposed to lose rival battles, and there's no actual penalty when she beats you. All of the smug-rear end rivals who think they're better than you come off as laughable when you beat them every time. I want to see the story reflected in my gameplay, dammit, and I want beating the rival at the end of the game to feel like a real victory.
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Walliard posted:This would be the best twist since Gen2 Kanto. Nah, the best twist would be if the friendly rival somehow beat both of you to the E4, then the smug one who had, up until that point been ahead, comes in last. Of course they'd have to make it so at least the smug rival, ideally both, had reasonably competent teams.
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Calem is just like, I remember at one point his name isn't on any of those podiums at the gyms... So like, he's this loving badgeless chump who just seems to think the two of you are on this magical quest of like, poke-discovery and I just wanted to stop him and be like. Look. Kid. You've got moxy. You've got spirit. You're just...not...very good...at this whole Pokemon Trainer thing...? You clearly have this thing going on with me and you, and I think that's sweet. Look at me? My mom races rhydons, or something? I got this poo poo in my blood. I dunno. Look at you? You're just this chump. Right here, Pokedex, Chump, page 298. Picture of you. Please. Now do you mind? I'm trying to do a thing here.
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Zoran posted:I wonder if you could get it to play RBY.
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Walliard posted:This would be the best twist since Gen2 Kanto. Reminds me of rumours of Black and White when they were first released in Japan, that Bianca would be the Champion.
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Iny posted:It's an interesting idea, but, like I said before, Oak actually uses that exact word, "hi-tech", when he's giving it to you in Red/Blue. The pokemon world is able to put physical objects and living creatures into computers and pull them out later. In the case of porygon, they have taken computer data and turned it into a living physical creature. If the pokedex is hi-tech, then I'm more than willing to believe it's bigger on the inside than the outside or whatever else justifies it. I wouldn't dwell on pokemon world technology.
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