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JesusDoesVegas posted:Well I'll actually talk about that too... Bremerton and the Yards have a habit of making people's lives the most miserable they have ever been. Being in the yards is basically the worst poo poo ever. Also, lol at thinking the Carrier will be able to pull in anywhere besides Thailand on the way into and out of 5th fleet. Enjoy your extensions ad infinitum. Those attitudes didn't just magically show up in those people. Its a proud Naval Tradition to beat any enjoyment out of everything.
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Laranzu posted:Bremerton and the Yards have a habit of making people's lives the most miserable they have ever been. Being in the yards is basically the worst poo poo ever. lol ya ya. Like I said, silver lining. An FC2 once told me a story while on watch about deployment. He pulled a piece of paper and a pen out and began drawing figure 8s. He said, "Here is deployment..." as he kept drawing figure 8 lines, one over another forming a big scribbled dark 8 he would say "Dubai.... ... Dubai.... ... Dubai.... Dubai..." Moral of that story was that a carrier may not be the best platform for seeing the world.
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So... I just decided to look in to the Navy Reserve because my job sucks and learning something new seemed good. I got a 97/99 in the test today. I dont even know were to begin to narrow down what I should look at. So my question is... Is anybody unhappy with a field they went into? Anything I should pass up as full of poo poo even if it sounds good? I'm considering MA due to some police academy schooling but thats about all I got so far. Not interested in anything HSLD/combat oriented. I'm giving some sort of trade be it electrical or mechanical a thought as something that would help me outside.
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LingcodKilla posted:So... I just decided to look in to the Navy Reserve because my job sucks and learning something new seemed good. I got a 97/99 in the test today. I dont even know were to begin to narrow down what I should look at. MA is not a good choice.
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LingcodKilla posted:So... I just decided to look in to the Navy Reserve because my job sucks and learning something new seemed good. I got a 97/99 in the test today. I dont even know were to begin to narrow down what I should look at. MAs are unhappy. Or they're dicks. Often both. They don't have my rate in the reserves. Be an HT.
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poopkitty posted:MAs are unhappy. Or they're dicks. Often both. They don't have my rate in the reserves. Be an HT. What is HT? I'm reading every navy rating tonight.
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LingcodKilla posted:What is HT? I'm reading every navy rating tonight. Hull Technician. Lots of welding or something probably.
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LingcodKilla posted:I'm considering MA gently caress the police HT = hull technician. They deal with shipboard maintenance like plumbing and welding poo poo (emphasis on plumbing and poo poo). I'm an AT (avionics technician) and I enjoy the work. Staying in = becoming a babysitter, though, so I'm getting out to go to school.
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MancXVI posted:gently caress the police Is HM more than handing out rubbers all day to stupid kids? HT looks pretty varied and interesting.
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LingcodKilla posted:Is HM more than handing out rubbers all day to stupid kids? HT looks pretty varied and interesting. Also band-aids and STD testing. Ooh, and flu shots. HT is cool as poo poo. It sometimes involves poo poo, but as a reservist, they'll teach you to weld and you'll probably ride a desk for drill. We have 4 right now and that's what they do.
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LingcodKilla posted:Is HM more than handing out rubbers all day to stupid kids? HT looks pretty varied and interesting. HM is more about handing out motrin to people all day.
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LingcodKilla posted:So... I just decided to look in to the Navy Reserve because my job sucks and learning something new seemed good. I got a 97/99 in the test today. I dont even know were to begin to narrow down what I should look at. Become a nurse, dude. 
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I know you said you wanted a trade however, any of the rates such as Information Dominance Warfare community (which as Intelligence Specialist, IT, CT - Crypto guys, and AG - weather guys) and all good. Plus, during your drill weekend, you can actually do some work that someone on active duty or the like might actually give a poo poo about (probably not really) instead of sitting in a classroom on facebook. Go IS
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Nick Soapdish posted:I know you said you wanted a trade however, any of the rates such as Information Dominance Warfare community (which as Intelligence Specialist, IT, CT - Crypto guys, and AG - weather guys) and all good. Plus, during your drill weekend, you can actually do some work that someone on active duty or the like might actually give a poo poo about (probably not really) instead of sitting in a classroom on facebook. I.... I dont think I could pass a IS ssb due to my bio father being a piece of poo poo that at least got a green card when he married my mom and we have no idea after that once he took off. HT, UT, MA, HM are on my list to ask more questions about.
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What your biological dad did considering you don't have any contact with him ain't gonna matter poo poo on a security clearance check. Unless you cooked meth with him whilst knifing homeless dudes on cross country trips, then you might have some trouble.
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not caring here posted:What your biological dad did considering you don't have any contact with him ain't gonna matter poo poo on a security clearance check. Fuuuuuuuuuuck. Nah, I've only met him once(for a day) about 10 years ago when I went to Mexicali to visit my 6 half brother and sisters through his other three ex wifes. Otherwise I have not had contact with him since I was 6 months old.
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not caring here posted:What your biological dad did considering you don't have any contact with him ain't gonna matter poo poo on a security clearance check. I know this sounds silly, but the fact that this is true is a really awesome part about this country. 
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LingcodKilla posted:I.... I dont think I could pass a IS ssb due to my bio father being a piece of poo poo that at least got a green card when he married my mom and we have no idea after that once he took off. As a reservist HM, your time served will depend largely on where you end up. Some friends get to do cool medical poo poo because they let them rotate around the hospital wards on the weekends and its just them putting on scrubs saturday and aunday and dealing with an angry Chief or something. Others got a small clinic at a recruiting station or a small office and really dont do anything exceot for homework. Your mileage as a reservist HM will vary. One thing is for sure though, one of the biggest checks youll get is the year and a half or so of training and times spent in holding companies waiting to class up coupled with your sweet rear end Reservisr Sign In Bonus. As a Reservist, Field Medical Training Battalion is almost always a requirement so you have your 8404 NEC (only reason the reserves needs HMs is if the Active duty guys with 8404 die out). Because of this, theh have a 10k incentive bonus for your contract at MEPS, but look into it because it might have gone away. I've known a few Reservists that got the bonus, but either because of a gently caress up or dastardly hand shakes the school wasnt in their contracts. If you want to see combat and slap on tourniquets and be boots on the ground running over hills with Marines, 8404 is where its at, but we are drawing out of the war so this may never happen and you can get 10k to just be a number. Ive never heard of a reservist getting another tech school unless it was 1) in their contract or 2) they already have rhe certs in their civilian life and they really really want to do it in uniform (case in point is my friend that got offered xray tech because he finished school, along with the many dental techs who are dental assistants in real life). However, if you would like to make the Navy your bitch to give you money, and want to piss off the Active Duty population by being the Skatenest, most liberated person ever, and you also dont have any problem quitting your dah job to be Navy, Full-Time Support or FTS reservists are the most broken job and secret in the Navy. You are likely to promote the fastest of any HM because your evals are bad rear end since you work Active duty hours, but, youre graded against Reservists who likely only put on a uniform on the weekends. A year and a half out of A school and my friend Demou got her E5 crows and the sweetest orders ever. Honestly, if you want easy money Reserves or FTS is the way to go, just read up and dont back out of loving the Navy for every dime.
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Pandasmores posted:Honestly, if you want easy money Reserves or FTS is the way to go, just read up and dont back out of loving the Navy for every dime. Piggy backing on this point... If you can deal with the BS, you can get cheap, adequate healthcare, monthly beer money, and, if you pull a mobilization (1 year on active duty) you can get close to 80%? Post-9/11 GI Bill. I would dis-sway you from MA (guarding a gate or running urinalysis) or HM (go to the Navy thread and listen to them bitch. HT and UT are rather similar but just different between shipboard (HT) and Seabees (UT). If memory serves correctly, Seabees are in the middle of a realignment (downsizing) so that might not be the best. If you are looking for good skills, I would recommend IT, ET, AT, or MC (Mass Communication Specialist - Public Relations guys and there's a guy in the Navy thread who just posted about going to A School and now is in the yards.
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Oh yeah, one of my HT friends that went to boot with me said his job is pretty cake. He got a 99 on the ASVAB and is a reservist with a small craft thing on an LHD or some poo poo and hes pretty much spent his weekends finishing school to open up a brewery. Also it foesnt sound as political as a lot of other Navy jobs but you might just end up dealing with literal poo poo.
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Nick Soapdish posted:
Yikes. IT, ET, AT and MC are a bit out of my field of interest or experience. I'll check out the MC though. The HM advice by Panasmores is .... interesting.
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LingcodKilla posted:Yikes. IT, ET, AT and MC are a bit out of my field of interest or experience. I'll check out the MC though. As some background, I've been an HM for 3 years, prior to joining I received the same advice from Christoff who is getting out in a little bit. I've solely been "Blue" side, meaning Ive only been at hospitals. Saw a ship from the shore once. Got bosses and friends that spent time on ships, and now I usually visit one of my friends thats a CTM (combat trauma medicine, you visit them if youre on the West coast and going to a division or if your command sends you) instructor with more combat experience than anyone Ive ever met so Ive heard a lot about the HM rating from different angles, whether active duty or reserves, Green and Blue side. Im no expert on all things HM, but I can likely find an answer to a question. Edit: Also I hate my loving job and will give anyone upfront advice on what would likrly be the better thing for them to do to keep them from being the alcoholic watching anime and playing King's Cup with a handle of rum almost daily to pass the time, instigating friends by calling them pussies for using beer. There is a light at the end of the tunnel though, and it's 700 days away. Pandasmores fucked around with this message at 09:42 on Feb 27, 2014 |
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So, I'm applying for Naval Flight Officer, and my Officer Recruiter has zero interest in helping me succeed in any way, so it seems. It's a semi-long story. Anyways, he straight up told me that I do not require any letters of recommendation for my packet; he'd just be emailing my past employers to fill out a couple forms about me… I don't trust that this is in anyway true, and believe that not having solid letters of rec. will make me less competitive in comparison to others [whom I believe will/do have letters of rec.]…. is this a case of technicality? One in which, no, an applicant is not REQUIRED to have letters of rec, but they're darn well EXPECTED/HELPFUL? I figured I'd pop on here and ask if my feelings are just.
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lovely26 posted:So, I'm applying for Naval Flight Officer, and my Officer Recruiter has zero interest in helping me succeed in any way, so it seems. It's a semi-long story. I don't know anything about Naval Officer recruiting if it works anything like Marine officer selection you might try looking up a recruiting office in another state. Alternatively, you can try the chat rooms the navy has setup on their recruiting website http://www.navy.com/joining/qualifications/officer.html. . Try asking those dudes if letters of recommendation are required for flight program selection.
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The forms he's sending your past employers are basically letters of recommendation. They have a bunch of stuff they'll fill out talking about you, your qualities, and they can submit an additional letter with it. I filled one out for a friend just a week or two ago. Just let the people he's contacting know that he's reaching out to them and ask them to include something with it. EDIT: This is the form http://www.cnrc.navy.mil/publications/Forms/DD%20370%20MAR%202009.pdf
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As a 32 year old with a drug possession felony in my past, do I have any chance of getting in to any service? National guard even? I'm having trouble finding work and I'd join the military right now if it could help my future.
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UglyCrackBaby posted:As a 32 year old with a drug possession felony in my past, do I have any chance of getting in to any service? National guard even? I'm having trouble finding work and I'd join the military right now if it could help my future. Unlikely, but maybe. If I was a recruiter I wouldn't even return your calls.
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krispykremessuck posted:Unlikely, but maybe. If I was a recruiter I wouldn't even return your calls. Well, I suppose i could beg or live a life of crime. Thanks anyway.
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The military is downsizing, and by consequence they're not letting as many people in and are a lot more choosy about it. They're kicking people out for the even the smallest of infractions. They might've been able to overlook the felony in say, 2005, but nowadays forget about it. I can't imagine any recruiting office wanting to deal with that. All that said, go talk to your area recruiters. Worst thing they can say is no. shyduck fucked around with this message at 21:23 on Mar 4, 2014 |
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shyduck posted:The military is downsizing, and by consequence they're not letting as many people in and are a lot more choosy about it. They're kicking people out for the even the smallest of infractions. They might've been able to overlook the felony in say, 2005, but nowadays forget about it. I can't imagine any recruiting office wanting to deal with that. Yeah, I'll give it a shot. Thanks for giving it to me straight guys.
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Also: Recruiters must adhere to a individual monthly quota. If one guy has met his quota for the month, he is going to tell you to gently caress off. If you get a recruiter who is short of meeting his number, he will work to get you in. They have to meet their numbers, and get you "on deck", which means getting you on a bus to Boot Camp. If a recruiter tells you no, go to another recruiting office, and try them. The recruiting offices compete with each other, and if one shop has guys who are really good at signing people up, another shop might have guys who are not so great at the game. Sometimes they will use the excuse "there is nothing open right now, come back next month". This is not a blow off, it just means that they have met the monthly quota, and want to get you next month's list. Some of them are very good at making bad poo poo disappear (legitimately) and some just don't put in the effort to game the system to get guys like you in. It's possible you might get a recruiter who is short for the month, and good at making your bad past go away. Shop around.
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shyduck posted:The military is downsizing, and by consequence they're not letting as many people in and are a lot more choosy about it. They're kicking people out for the even the smallest of infractions. They might've been able to overlook the felony in say, 2005, but nowadays forget about it. I can't imagine any recruiting office wanting to deal with that. With Army numbers down to pre-WWII figures, do you see Russia as potential recruiting boom in the near future?
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Not necessarily. While all branches are downsizing anything cyber-related is getting backed with big budgets. This is just speculation, but that could mean even fewer normal jobs available, so unless you're eligible for a security clearance it might be even harder to get in.
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I'm already in line for a improved clearance, are you talking secret or some super secret squirrel line of bs?
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No, I was just speaking generally. I meant if you wanted to join so you could drive a truck around it would probably be harder with the drawdowns.
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Nerdfest X posted:Also: Recruiters must adhere to a individual monthly quota. If one guy has met his quota for the month, he is going to tell you to gently caress off. If you get a recruiter who is short of meeting his number, he will work to get you in. They have to meet their numbers, and get you "on deck", which means getting you on a bus to Boot Camp. No one ever tells a qualified kid to go gently caress himself. I don't care if I wrote my entire quota on monday and it's only tuesday. I would have kids take the ASVAB and physical and hold them to enlist on the first processing day of the next month. It's that recruiters don't want to waste time working with someone who doesn't have a chance of enlisting. It's nothing personal but anything they do that isn't moving someone towards enlisting is a waste. Also, going to another recruiting office might not work unless you go to another state. The operations officer sits at the recruiting station (recruiting office headquarters building for the area) and is consulted before anyone tries to run waivers. If an applicant gives a recruiter his info and recruiter man talked to the operations officer about the waiver, going somewhere else in the same city isn't going to help you since it's the same officer deciding not to entertain a waiver. Also "on deck" doesn't mean on a bus to boot camp. It means that the kid is at MEPs ready to enlist.
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I got all my paperwork in and just waiting for my physical on Friday. If I meet the background stuff for security I may have to really look hard at the cyber stuff. How tough are the schools for that? Do they start at an high school level of understanding or right off the bat more advanced? I got a 97/99 so apparently I got some options.
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LingcodKilla posted:I got all my paperwork in and just waiting for my physical on Friday. If I meet the background stuff for security I may have to really look hard at the cyber stuff. I'm right there with you, except I have an 87. I'm very interested in the MOS, can't seem to find many details though.
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Every Navy school assumes you are a mouth breathing moron, except for Nuke school. They assume you're a mouth breather with a HS degree and a good knowledge of math. You'll be fine in any rate you choose.
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poopkitty posted:Every Navy school assumes you are a mouth breathing moron, except for Nuke school. They assume you're a mouth breather with a HS degree and a good knowledge of math. You'll be fine in any rate you choose. You don't know how relieving this is.
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