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fatherdog posted:I remembered something I saw in an interview and looked it up on Wikipedia - I read an anecdote about the Sylvester-Stallone-directed movie "Paradise Alley," which was about some brothers who become wrestlers, so they hired actual wrestlers (including a Ted DiBiase, I think) to film the bulk of the match footage. Some of the actors would regularly talk poo poo about the wrestlers and be really condescending. Stallone called a meeting of all the cast and crew and said something to the effect of "These wrestlers are helping us do in weeks what would take Hollywood stuntmen months, so I don't want to hear anyone insulting them."
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ZDar Fan posted:I read an anecdote about the Sylvester-Stallone-directed movie "Paradise Alley," which was about some brothers who become wrestlers, so they hired actual wrestlers (including a Ted DiBiase, I think) to film the bulk of the match footage. Some of the actors would regularly talk poo poo about the wrestlers and be really condescending. Stallone called a meeting of all the cast and crew and said something to the effect of "These wrestlers are helping us do in weeks what would take Hollywood stuntmen months, so I don't want to hear anyone insulting them." You're thinking of Terry Funk wearing the greatest bowlcut of all time. Terry Funk also did the fight choreography for Rocky 5. Never said everything he did was good.
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Feb 27, 2014 02:21
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Nothing really wrong with the fights in Rocky 5, so much as the plot.
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Feb 27, 2014 02:24
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Terry Funk also got beat up by Sam Elliott and The Swayze in Road House.
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Feb 27, 2014 02:58
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And of course Rocky III, a Stallone joint, was key to the rise of Hulkamania. I'm honestly amazed Stallone has never done any WWF programming.
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Feb 27, 2014 03:06
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Maxwell Lord posted:And of course Rocky III, a Stallone joint, was key to the rise of Hulkamania. He inducted Hogan in the Hall of Fame in 2005.
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Maxwell Lord posted:And of course Rocky III, a Stallone joint, was key to the rise of Hulkamania. He inducted Hulk Hogan into the Hall of Fame in 2005. I think that's it. Edit: Well, beaten again.
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Feb 27, 2014 03:08
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Maxwell Lord posted:And of course Rocky III, a Stallone joint, was key to the rise of Hulkamania. Stallone was a NWA man and his body of work reflects that.
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Feb 27, 2014 03:30
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Thauros posted:Lucha isn't exactly this forum's forté, but can anyone recommend a great El Hijo Del Santo match? He just retired and Dave had this to day about him: If it's against Felino, it'll be good. Particularly their 3/8/98 match. He also had a really good match against Rey Jr. on 2/21/97 back when Rey was still allowed to do Mexican dates. His feud against La Paraka in the early aughts was quite good.
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Feb 27, 2014 03:49
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What was the deal with Rey's WCW unmasking and having to get permission from a legit organization in Mexico to re-mask?
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Luigi Thirty posted:What was the deal with Rey's WCW unmasking and having to get permission from a legit organization in Mexico to re-mask? Eric Bischoff thought the luchadores would be more marketable unmasked, so he tried to unmask Rey as early as 97, but Eddy flat out refused to win the mask match so Rey kept it. They then took Juvi's mask, and as time went on he did a Nash vs Rey feud where Rey lost his mask in a tag match. When he went to the WWE they wanted him masked, so they went to the Box y Lucha commission in Mexico. They agreed the way he lost it was not a legitimate mask match and he could remask. It's Mexico so they may have paid them some money too.
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Feb 27, 2014 04:00
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Terry Funk was also in Stallone's Over the Top. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TJXPyGynYA
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MassRafTer posted:Eric Bischoff thought the luchadores would be more marketable unmasked, so he tried to unmask Rey as early as 97, but Eddy flat out refused to win the mask match so Rey kept it. They then took Juvi's mask, and as time went on he did a Nash vs Rey feud where Rey lost his mask in a tag match. When he went to the WWE they wanted him masked, so they went to the Box y Lucha commission in Mexico. They agreed the way he lost it was not a legitimate mask match and he could remask. It's Mexico so they may have paid them some money too. It amazes me that WWE had the foresight to realize that remarking him was the best move considering Vince's dislike of masks.
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Do all masked wrestlers need permission to be masked, or is that only if they want to perform in Mexico ever? What's the etiquette for some guy in the indies who puts a mask on, like El Generico?
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I think Mysterio is a special case due to being officially unmasked, so they had to find a way around that.
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Shima Honnou posted:Do all masked wrestlers need permission to be masked, or is that only if they want to perform in Mexico ever? What's the etiquette for some guy in the indies who puts a mask on, like El Generico? The regulations about masked wrestlers apply only in lucha. It's also not that a guy needs permission to wear a mask in the first place, but losing a mask vs. mask match is supposed to be final. When a luchador loses his mask, not only does he remove his mask in the center of the ring but he reveals his real name and age. Many masked luchadores that have been around for years (e.g. Último Guerrero and Atlantis) still have their name concealed from the public. It's also different if a guy's in a new gimmick/mask IIRC. New Japan wrestler Kyosuke Mikami was unmasked during a stint in Mexico under the gimmick Namajague and now has a new masked gimmick under the name El Desperado back in Japan. I'm not sure if he'd have issues using it on a CMLL tour though. Thauros fucked around with this message at 04:38 on Feb 27, 2014 |
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Feb 27, 2014 04:34
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Thauros posted:It amazes me that WWE had the foresight to realize that remarking him was the best move considering Vince's dislike of masks. He looks like a babby with no mask on.
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Feb 27, 2014 04:40
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I'm listening to the Steve Austin podcast with William Regal. Austin asks what Regal thought of Steamboat VS. Savage at WM 3. Regal said he liked it until he talked to Steamboat about it. Austin says 'Enough said, cause I know.' Any idea what the deal is here?
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Feb 27, 2014 05:37
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FortifiedTumor posted:I'm listening to the Steve Austin podcast with William Regal. Macho planned his matches out.
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Feb 27, 2014 05:39
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FortifiedTumor posted:I'm listening to the Steve Austin podcast with William Regal. Just to spare you from being yelled at, as it's been asked a few times already, but check the last page. Short version was that Regal was bummed to discover that the match was planned by Savage beforehand (he'd thought they came up with everything on the spot).
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Feb 27, 2014 05:40
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Jesus, sorry. I thought that was old hat. They were talking about it like a secret. Are we sure there isn't more to it?
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Thauros posted:Lucha isn't exactly this forum's forté, but can anyone recommend a great El Hijo Del Santo match? He just retired and Dave had this to day about him: Yeah, that sounds about right. Your could argue for Casas, Satanico, and maybe Dandy above him as far as luchadores go, but top ten of all time isn't a stretch at all. His rivalry with Negro Casas is the Flair/Steamboat or Misawa/Kawada of Mexico and this is their greatest match. Pretty accessible too if you're new to lucha. They fight over every hold, there's a nice mix of brawling and technique, and it's only one fall so the lucha psychology that puts off some non-regular viewers isn't as prevalent. It actually reminds me of Tanahashi/Suzuki in that there aren't many near falls, but the drama comes from the struggle and the feeling that the match could be over at any moment. I'm sure Dave would have dropped five stars on it had he reviewed it. The Duck of Death fucked around with this message at 06:08 on Feb 27, 2014 |
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FortifiedTumor posted:Jesus, sorry. I thought that was old hat. They were talking about it like a secret. Are we sure there isn't more to it? Steamboat had to push really, really hard in the planning stages to keep out the Macho-deflowers-Stephanie McMahon spot.
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Regarding all this stuff about Macho planning his matches, Jake Roberts offered a very different viewpoint: he said that you "never knew what page he was gonna be on," so he had to "lean on" Randy until he got a bit tired in order to set the right pace for the match. It wasn't a disparaging observation either; far from it.
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I remember he did an interview via satellite for either the new Rocky, Rambo or something
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I'm watching Summerslam '02 and what's the deal with this Fink promo after the HBK-HHH match? Did they actually do a Fink heel turn? Whatever it is, it's absolutely atrocious.
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There was a period where he was heeling it up because 'pretty' announcers like Mark Chimel and Lillian Garcia were phasing him out regardless of talent. Which was one of those fun WWE things where I guess everyone was supposed to boo a guy who was entirely right.
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Feb 27, 2014 20:58
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When did WWE change from gritty low lighting style of production to the flashy overproduced look it has now?
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Abu Dave posted:When did WWE change from gritty low lighting style of production to the flashy overproduced look it has now? I first noticed it around 2002, with this set 
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Hmm that makes sense. The fist logo Smackdown set could've contributed to it too. I think that's why I appreciate NXT alot, it's not as over produced.
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Abu Dave posted:Hmm that makes sense. The fist logo Smackdown set could've contributed to it too. I think that's why I appreciate NXT alot, it's not as over produced. Yeah the Fist happened around that time too. I hated both sets. All I really wanted was a simple tron/stage setup, like WCW had when they were closing down. For some reason I like low budget wrestling I guess.
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triplexpac posted:Yeah the Fist happened around that time too. WWF did not have a logo that looked like something a bird left on the hood of my car.
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Abu Dave posted:When did WWE change from gritty low lighting style of production to the flashy overproduced look it has now? I assume it was the start of the movement to more lighting based entrances rather than relying on expensive pyro.
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Are there any stories of fans getting hurt at events? I just watched some of the ECW stuff on WWE network and was kind of surprised to see Sabu and Funk whip chairs into the crowd. It made me think someone had to get hurt at some point.
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The Grey posted:Are there any stories of fans getting hurt at events? Wasn't there a really bad pyro malfunction at I wanna say Wrestlemania 24 that injured quite a few people? EDIT: Yep, just looked this up. You can read about it here http://www.wftv.com/news/news/dozens-injured-at-wrestlemania-when-fireworks-cabl/nJj8s/ Boardroom Jimmy fucked around with this message at 06:32 on Feb 28, 2014 |
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triplexpac posted:For some reason I like low budget wrestling I guess. one of my favorite wrestling sets was ECW's rinky-dink brick wall entrance surrounded by chain link fencing. I dunno why, it just had a charm to it.
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Didn't a flaming towel get flung into the crowd during one of the Cactus Jack/Terry Funk matches?
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Feb 28, 2014 06:38
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Not sure if it counts as 'seriously injured,' but Vampiro dumped blood onto the crowd like three separate times in WCW.
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The Grey posted:Are there any stories of fans getting hurt at events? On Stone Cold's podcast, Terry Funk talked about Mick Foley setting Funk on fire with a flaming chair and in turn Funk (Or just the chair?) set some dude in the crowd on fire and burned him pretty bad.
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Maxwell Lord posted:I'm honestly amazed Stallone has never done any WWF programming. I just watched the GLOW documentary on Netflix, and it was really amazing that they basically took actresses and turned them into wrestlers in a matter of weeks. Also, that Ivory was a GLOW girl. They really nailed the fun and storytelling of wrestling, and I don't know that you could do what they did again today with that level of success. Really bittersweet movie without a really big happy ending. Mount Fiji  EDIT: Adding question: If I wanted to get into professional wrestling as a booker or promoter, and there are no local promotions near me (Seattle), what are my options? How would I even break in? Shrecknet fucked around with this message at 07:07 on Feb 28, 2014 |
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