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Red posted:Thirding this. Rude's WCW run was his peak to me. In other news, WCW was really loving good in 1997! MassRafTer fucked around with this message at 05:12 on Feb 26, 2014 |
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MassRafTer posted:Rude's WCW run was his peak to me. poo poo, even Glacier's match was quite good. The only match that didn't have any appeal was Buff vs Scotty.
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Feb 26, 2014 05:15
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El Gallinero Gros posted:The only match that didn't have any appeal was Buff vs Scotty. And even that match had Buff taking time out to talk to the camera about how awesome he was.
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Feb 26, 2014 05:18
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RZApublican posted:And even that match had Buff taking time out to talk to the camera about how awesome he was. Several times!
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Feb 26, 2014 05:47
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MassRafTer posted:Rude's WCW run was his peak to me. Rick Rude feuds in WWF: Ultimate Warrior, Jake Roberts Rick Rude feuds in WCW: Sting, Ricky Steamboat Lesser feuds in the WWF included the Bossman and Orndorff, while his lesser stuff in WCW included Ron Simmons. It's no contest.
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Feb 26, 2014 05:58
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ayn rand hand job posted:I actually forgot that Uncensored '97 was a pretty great show. Pretty solid card all around, ME wasn't too terrible despite having 4 pages of rules that Michael Buffer had to read. it's a bit of a clusterfuck but the Lex Luger comeback at the end is really good and the crowd is absolutely losing their mind
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Feb 26, 2014 06:22
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Kind of a dumb question probably, but what sort of shape was Rude in prior to his death? He was planning an in-ring return wasn't he? Dude looked like he was chiseled from granite in his prime but during his DX/jump to WCW he tended to wear suits and stuff that didn't really show what kind of shape he was in. Was he still ripped to shreds, did he let himself go due to inaction or is it unknown?
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Feb 26, 2014 06:24
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I believe he was back on the roids preparing for an in-ring return and his heart exploded. If you look at him when he was doing color for ECW in 1997 he doesn't look as ripped as he was in the 80s. I'm sure someone else can provide more details.
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Feb 26, 2014 11:11
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El Gallinero Gros posted:The PPV where Hogan turned (Bash at the Beach 96) is quite good, as is Superbrawl II, and Great American Bash 96. Also, Wrestlewar 89, where Flair and Steamboat had a ***** match is a pretty good show in general. Wrestlewar 89 was the first WCW show I ever saw (roughly around 1990 or so), and it blew me away - Flair/Steamboat was and remains loving incredible. Unfortunately (or perhaps, fortunately) we didn't get WCW stuff on television until 95/96 so WWF remained my only source of pro-wrestling for the next couple of years till I took a hiatus, and when I jumped back in with the Monday Night Wars the nWo had pretty much already run themselves into the ground as a concept while WWF was picking up in quality.
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Zack_Gochuck posted:I believe he was back on the roids preparing for an in-ring return and his heart exploded. If you look at him when he was doing color for ECW in 1997 he doesn't look as ripped as he was in the 80s. I'm sure someone else can provide more details. Follow up question to anyone who knows: Rude was cut as hell but was still really lean and never really had that huge, bloated, gassed up roid monkey look like early 00's HHH or pre-steroid trial Hogan. In fact, I can't think of too many wrestlemen that were built like Rude period. Is there anything that determines which body a roid user is going to end up with other than genetics and/or luck? Please feel free to school me on how  the juice works in general since it's not really a thing I'm too educated on. <---- EZ Setup for some sick Juventud jokes since this is venturing out of WCW territory.
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Feb 26, 2014 13:22
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steroids don't determine your body. test lets you build muscle and strength more easily, and recover faster. rude looked more cut because he was much leaner than most other wrestlers. this is likely due to a stricter diet or use of cutting drugs or both. he also had well developed abs and small obliques, which is part genetics part training choices. triple h is bigger because he eats more. he isn't cut because he isn't as lean.
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Feb 26, 2014 14:02
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oatgan posted:it's a bit of a clusterfuck but the Lex Luger comeback at the end is really good and the crowd is absolutely losing their mind Round setup aside, if they just called the drat thing a 3 Team 4 Man* Tornado Royale, it doesn't sound that bad. *-one team has 3 members
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Feb 26, 2014 14:48
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MassRafTer posted:Great American Bash 89. Perhaps the best PPV of all time. Starrcade 85 is a serious favorite of mine. 84 was quite good too.
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Feb 26, 2014 15:36
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coconono posted:Starrcade 85 is a serious favorite of mine. 84 was quite good too. Starrcade 85 has one of the best I quit and cage matches of all time. The ending in just brutal. That match is seriously one of my favorite matches of all time.
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Feb 26, 2014 15:41
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bobkatt013 posted:Starrcade 85 has one of the best I quit and cage matches of all time. The ending in just brutal. That match is seriously one of my favorite matches of all time. Is that the Magnum TA/Tully Blanchard match?
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Feb 26, 2014 22:30
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bartok posted:Is that the Magnum TA/Tully Blanchard match? Yep
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Feb 26, 2014 22:31
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Occupy Japan posted:Follow up question to anyone who knows: Rude was cut as hell but was still really lean and never really had that huge, bloated, gassed up roid monkey look like early 00's HHH or pre-steroid trial Hogan. In fact, I can't think of too many wrestlemen that were built like Rude period. Is there anything that determines which body a roid user is going to end up with other than genetics and/or luck? Please feel free to school me on how http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/216599-full-list-of-wwe-superstars-involved-in-pharmacy-probe Guys not know for physique, like Edge, Regal, Funaki, Chavo, were (at least at one point) using roids or HGH or whatever. The drugs aren't going to change your body dramatically, they'll just make it easier to meet and possibly exceed your natural potential.
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Feb 27, 2014 08:26
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Occupy Japan posted:Follow up question to anyone who knows: Rude was cut as hell but was still really lean and never really had that huge, bloated, gassed up roid monkey look like early 00's HHH or pre-steroid trial Hogan. In fact, I can't think of too many wrestlemen that were built like Rude period. Is there anything that determines which body a roid user is going to end up with other than genetics and/or luck? Please feel free to school me on how I always assumed it was easier to take bumps if you had some cushioning around your belly/ back/ butt/ hips. I mean, Mick Foley is a nutjob for taking some of the bumps he did, but its also gotta be easier for him to do some stupid sunset flip to the outside, land on his huge gut that wraps around to his back, then a guy like Rude, who had a couple of ribs visible, to land flat on his back. Its probably better to have more surface area so you can land more comfortably, so guys don't care if their waistlines get huge.
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Feb 28, 2014 04:24
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I forget what thread it was in where someone said that was exactly why Mick was so successful. His back is wide and flat so he could cushion himself on bumps really easily.
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Feb 28, 2014 04:46
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The technical term is "satchel rear end."
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Feb 28, 2014 04:48
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Why did Muta get put into a Juggalo stable with Vampiro?
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Feb 28, 2014 05:45
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Face paint, talent
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Hey everyone, I am going to run a different Survivor II tournament than I originally announced. Instead of workrate we're going to vote on THE STUPIDEST poo poo WCW EVER DID. I'd like 25 entries but we may go higher. Ideally these things should be a single event, aka Hiring Vince Russo, not THE WHOLE NEW BLOOD ANGLE or The Starrcade 97 Main Event not THE NWO NEVER LOSING! You can consider the build to something as part of that (like how Sting vs Hogan was built for a year, or how the dumb build to Warrior/Hogan made the match dumber.) My list: Letting Ric Flair go to the WWF Firing Steve Austin Letting Brian Pillman work them into a release The Giant vs Hulk Hogan monster truck match The Uncensored 96 DOOMSDAY CAGE MATCH Roddy Piper vs Hulk Hogan at Starrcade is secretly non-title nWo Souled Out Sting doesn't go over Hogan cleanly at Starrcade 97 Goldberg vs Hogan given away on free TV Leno/DDP vs Hogan/Bischoff Hogan vs Warrior Bischoff plans for Halloween Havoc to run long, chain of command forgets to inform cable companies Goldberg loses to Nash via cattleprod at Starrcade 98 1/4/99 Nitro (Butts in seats, Goldberg goes to jail, Fingerpoke) The Hummer Starrcade 99 is another Montreal Screwjob Bringing Vince Russo back David Arquette: World Champion The Russo/Hogan worked shoot that caused a lawsuit Vince Russo: World Champion I'm sure there's a ton of other nominations out there and poo poo I wanted to list but forgot, so please give me some suggestions!
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Feb 28, 2014 06:05
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Would granting the Radicals their release count? Or is that more bad luck than stupidity.
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Feb 28, 2014 06:10
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I feel like you should name this the Vince Russo Memorial Tournament and disallow his hiring, because otherwise it's the obvious choice and wins in a landslide. Plus, talking about the individual things he did is way better than "Russo got hired." I'll suggest... the King of the Road match from Uncensored 1995 and the Sting/Vampiro Human Torch match.
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Feb 28, 2014 06:13
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Cozz posted:Would granting the Radicals their release count? Or is that more bad luck than stupidity. Yes, definitely. I wanted to add that and forgot. I knew there were more idiotic releases. Hiring Lanny Poffo might count too.
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Feb 28, 2014 06:13
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I nominate that time two guys had a match in the back of a moving truck. Or that time Terry Funk nearly got killed by a horse.
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Feb 28, 2014 06:13
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I'd say it's a tossup between giving Hogan creative control and giving Nash the books.
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Feb 28, 2014 06:19
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Junkyard Invitational.
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Feb 28, 2014 06:20
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THAT'S THE WALL! - Eagle Eye Hogan
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Feb 28, 2014 06:21
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Endorph posted:I nominate that time two guys had a match in the back of a moving truck. Terry Funk would not take that horses poo poo and it made that match incredible. Here are some more nominees. Robocop Chucky Lost in Cleveland Getting rid of ray's mask Gorilla's tribute Taquilia bottle victory aka pissing off japan Mike awesomes bump at the same arena Owen died in Mark madden Jimmy hart vs local dj Dark side hogan Hogan v zodiac at starrcade Hogan's helmet
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Feb 28, 2014 06:21
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Literally every moment involving Tank Abbott.
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Feb 28, 2014 06:23
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How about that time Rick Steiner got attacked by a man in a bee costume who unmasked next week to reveal that he was... Rick Steiner.
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Feb 28, 2014 06:23
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Madusa throwing away the WWF Women's Belt?
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Feb 28, 2014 06:24
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Macho Man's reviving elbow was either the greatest thing ever or the stupidest thing ever. It really played towards smarks and the overall subtext of wrestling, but I think it probably went over most people's heads. For those of you that don't know what this is, at some WCW ppv the Hulkster was laid out by a group of heels (I think the Dungeon of Doom). Savage ran in and hit the flying elbow on Hulk. This triggered Hogans ability to hulk up, and he ran off the heels.
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Feb 28, 2014 06:28
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Abrasive Obelisk posted:Madusa throwing away the WWF Women's Belt? I disagree, I find that pretty awesome.
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Feb 28, 2014 06:28
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nWo Nightcap! Or does that count for the Leno match?
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Feb 28, 2014 06:35
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Feb 28, 2014 06:37
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Wasting a huge amount of money licensing the KISS Demon and then jobbing him out due to Eric Bischoff losing his position.
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Spending half of a live television show tearing down the set and building a new one "Looks like something a bird left on the hood of my car"
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