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Is Codex: LotD out yet? I'm seeing the warlord traits and stuff online.
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Mar 2, 2014 14:37
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Ghost Hand posted:Negative. But this makes the Word Bearers sound like they are the ones who own?
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Mar 2, 2014 14:42
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SUPER NEAT TOY posted:Is Codex: LotD out yet? I'm seeing the warlord traits and stuff online. Yep, it bravely continues the trend of releasing a codex containing a single unit. You can take LotD detachments of 1-4 squads. If you choose them as the primary detachment, they count as scoring and one sergeant can be warlord. As for the models themselves, they're 25pt marines with a bunch of special rules: Fear / Fearless 3++ Invulns All ranged attacks have Ignores Cover Slow and Purposeful Must start in reserve and arrive by deep-strike. Can re-roll scatter dice. One sergeant can take the Animus Malorum: quote:The bearer and all Legionnaire models in his unit have the Feel No Pain special rule. There's a couple of scenarios for them and an Apoc formation with extra rules, but that's pretty much the whole codex summarised in a few lines. Edit: I just noticed there's no restriction on weapons vs squad size. So a 5-man squad can have a special and a heavy weapon plus sergeant combi-weapon (all of which benefit from Ignores Cover). Not terrible for ~150pts. Give them a meltagun, multi-melta and combi-melta and deep strike away. xtothez fucked around with this message at 15:02 on Mar 2, 2014 |
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Mar 2, 2014 14:56
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Ghost Hand posted:This is not quite why. The best thing was that the entire purpose of that character is to be a clear and direct invitation from a proper author to every writer at GW (and B&C etc) who is too stupid and or hacky to understand what the gently caress the Codex is meant to be, despite it always having been clearly described in a way that a child should be able to comprehend, to gently caress off.
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Mar 2, 2014 15:27
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Ghost Hand posted:I wanted to post some pictures to demonstrate why narrative games just rock the socks off of tournament style play.... If you haven't covered this type of event and how to organize it, on your podcast you are a fool. If you have and I just missed it, I am a fool. Ask the guy(s) running it if they would be willing to share their notes with us here.
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Mar 2, 2014 15:37
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Indolent Bastard posted:If you haven't covered this type of event and how to organize it, on your podcast you are a fool. If you have and I just missed it, I am a fool. We have had them on multiple times. This is the G3 Santa Cruz group...
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Mar 2, 2014 16:07
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Any recommendations on the best store to play at in Chicago area or the best gaming group?
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Mar 2, 2014 16:10
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ANAmal.net posted:But this makes the Word Bearers sound like they are the ones who own? They do too... That's why they are my 30k army of choice! However The Ultramarines repel The Word Bearers at Calth even after being put on their back footing during the surprise attack.... Good Lord man! Have you not read "Know No Fear"? I don't care what others think (SRM is with me here *high five*), it's a great book full of heroic and dastardly scenes in equal number!
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Mar 2, 2014 16:13
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Apollodorus posted:Okay, cool. I was definitely thinking of the Razorback carrying the 5-man squad, to maneuver around and shoot from a different angle. I take your point on bikes and speeders - I don't really like the idea of having them much myself. You are correct about the Combat Shield. On a table that is only 4'x4', a land raider might be too much. Maybe. Like I would probably still bring mine anyway if the game was at least 1,000 points. If you're playing UNDER that value, I would understand leaving it out. BUT KNOW THIS. If you are building a Black Templars force, and you don't have a Land Raider Crusader, YOU ARE DOING IT WRONG. (  )Be wary of the 20 mans on foot as well. Yes, it looks scary at the beginning of the game, but in reality, that unit is going to be taking a shitload of hits before it reaches anything, because nobody wants to see that assault their stuff. You will basically be spending 100 points on neophytes to act as a meat shield for your initiates (using the majority toughness rule to give them T4, admittedly). Such a large and expensive unit in a <1k game taking a lot of hits without being able to say, shoot back (pistols and short range assault weapon) without somebody there to help them get where they need to go is a bad idea imo. So don't forget about your regular scouts! Get a 5 man squad of those lightly armored rascals and a land speeder storm to put them in, blind and assault some peeps while your real heavy hitters run screaming across the table. You'll be able to purchase a second squad to turn into neophytes to buff up your blob squad as well, and still keep it in your price range.
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Mar 2, 2014 16:16
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Land Raider Crusader is definitely on the docket, but I am trying to not go TOO crazy with Warhams at the moment since I still have 2 1/2 Tau tanks that need to be painted. Then again, Deviant still hasn't unloaded his from SA-Mart, so.... Basically, what I am looking for is to build up a small-medium BT force that will be balanced against Tau and also against Eldar (totally forgot I have an unassembled Eldar battleforce plus that bunch of  RT/2E Eldar) so I can play short-ish casual games with my coworkers over the summer as an alternative to MTG or X-Wing.So, I'll keep thinking about it, maybe put together a list or three for y'all's approval.
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Mar 2, 2014 16:27
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xtothez posted:Yep, it bravely continues the trend of releasing a codex containing a single unit. They can be primary and troops. But no HQ? Does not fill required FOC then? Also, you start everything in normal reserve then you loose game turn one since you have been tabled. There must be something else we are missing.
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Mar 2, 2014 16:47
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will blow your mind.
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Ghost Hand posted:We have had them on multiple times. This is the G3 Santa Cruz group... Yes, but have they spoken explicitly about the type of set up that you played?
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Mar 2, 2014 17:00
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WhiteOutMouse posted:They can be primary and troops. But no HQ? Does not fill required FOC then? They have their own FOC of 1-4 Elites, nothing else. There is a warlord trait that let's you deep strike on Turn 1, but obviously that isn't guaranteed. Without it, taking just a primary detachment of them and nothing else does automatically lose. However that will be pretty tough in itself as the army is capped at around 1000pts by the FOC. It's pretty clear the intention is for LotD forces to fight alongside allies from another codex, as that's how they operate in the fluff (showing up to save the day).
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Mar 2, 2014 17:12
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What's the best method nowadays for buying bits given the whole moratorium on bits in stores? Are there any online retailers, or am I stuck with eBay? Or, perhaps, should I set up a thread in SA-Mart and link it here?
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Mar 2, 2014 17:15
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Ghost Hand posted:I don't care what others think (SRM is with me here *high five*), it's a great book full of heroic and dastardly scenes in equal number! Definitely a fun read that shows what the Word Bearers are capable of once they get down to business. Would have worked too, except for Kor Phaeron being a jealous little girl.
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Mar 2, 2014 17:19
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PantsOptional posted:What's the best method nowadays for buying bits given the whole moratorium on bits in stores? Are there any online retailers, or am I stuck with eBay? Or, perhaps, should I set up a thread in SA-Mart and link it here? I ordered from here before, but it was a couple years ago before they banned the practice, so I don't know if they work any differently now.
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Mar 2, 2014 17:19
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Sadly, Hoard doesn't seem to have some of the newer items like Vanguard Veterans bits, which is what I'm looking for. I may use them to get some heavy weapons, though...
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Mar 2, 2014 17:29
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Hoardobits also sells on eBay and there are one or two other major bits settlers still active on eBay.
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Mar 2, 2014 17:51
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WhiteOutMouse posted:They can be primary and troops. But no HQ? Does not fill required FOC then?
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Mar 2, 2014 18:10
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I've seen it mentioned but not compared, but here is a shot of the knight bases with the flyer oval base
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Mar 2, 2014 18:21
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xtothez posted:They have their own FOC of 1-4 Elites, nothing else. If the units HAVE to start in reserve, then you wouldnt auto lose. Its in the rulebook.
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Mar 2, 2014 18:27
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Big Willy Style posted:I've seen it mentioned but not compared, but here is a shot of the knight bases with the flyer oval base The big base is the knight base?
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Mar 2, 2014 18:44
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thiswayliesmadness posted:Now that should be interesting! I do like their card mechanics and they make some cool models, though they need to set a proper scale and stop using such thin legs that just ask to snap off. Hope they keep the random deck mechanics for it since that adds a nice extra strategy layer instead of getting dicked by the dice gods. Reading some reviews and looking at some online gameplay videos it looks pretty bad.
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Mar 2, 2014 18:46
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Booley posted:The big base is the knight base? Yep
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Mar 2, 2014 18:50
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serious gaylord posted:If the units HAVE to start in reserve, then you wouldnt auto lose. Its in the rulebook. Units that must start in reserve are an exception to the "can only put half your units in reserve" restriction. I don't see anything that lets them bypass this: BRB pg122 posted:If one player concedes the battle, or his entire army is wiped out, the game ends and a crushing victory goes to his opponent. Likewise, if at the end of any game turn, one player has no models on the battlefield, his opponent automatically wins.
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Mar 2, 2014 19:02
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Holy gently caress, knights. Had a 500 pt game with no FOC this weekend. My 2 friends brought their knights, my wife brought Wazdakka and biker nob retinue, and I rolled with a Mega Dread, 2 deff dreads, and 3 killa kans. We got tabled by a knight, my sister's Eldar Wraithknight, my brother's rear end in a top hat bloodthirsters, and a few regular dreads. The Knights can krump the poo poo out of whatever walks their way, by and large, but they cannot handle each other. One D-weapon-ed the other, and the titanic explosion knocked the last HP off of the attacker, so it also detonated. It was pretty badass. Meanwhile, the bloodthirsters used their I9 to great effect; only 1 was vaporized in the explosion. I received an object lesson in just how superior MCs are to walkers  .My brother and our buddy then offered to grab me a Squiggoth for chuckles 
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Mar 2, 2014 19:26
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Indolent Bastard posted:Yes, but have they spoken explicitly about the type of set up that you played? Yes. They are the gaming group where one of the organisers of the campaign is ex US Army Int Corps so does military style briefings. They do an ongoing campaign with big battle days to move the story forward where numerous tables are used and these are interlinked with objectives on certain tables so that the spaceship battle occurs with access to the facility to bombard the planet side tables etc. I think there is a specific episode on running a campaign that talks to the G3 guys. It is the kind if setup we all wish was near us. I am a medical officer in the army but that means the most I can offer is a medical estimate and a legitimate DNBI management plan. D&V management in the 41st Millenium yeah!
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Mar 2, 2014 19:26
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Big Willy Style posted:I've seen it mentioned but not compared, but here is a shot of the knight bases with the flyer oval base drat, that is big. serious gaylord posted:If the units HAVE to start in reserve, then you wouldnt auto lose. Its in the rulebook. Xtothez is right. If you don't have models on the table at the end of a game turn for any reason, you lose. My Necron playing friend forgot this once and had over 500 points of scythes and immortals fly off the table into ongoing reserve. I wiped the few models he had left on the table in the bottom of the turn and won in 4 turns by destroying less than 2/3rds of his army. PeterWeller fucked around with this message at 19:31 on Mar 2, 2014 |
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Mar 2, 2014 19:26
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Basically, if you're going to put your entire army in reserve, you need to have some units that arrive turn 1. This can be done, and even done effectively, with drop pod armies. A player at my FLGS does this with all infantry in drop pods, plus some flyers. I saw him run it against Eldar waveserpant spam and he took out three of them before the Eldar player even had a turn.
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Mar 2, 2014 19:31
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Went into my FLGS today and picked up my 3rd Crone/Harpy, a box of gargoyles, and ordered a second box of gargoyles. All in preparation of the new Tyranid Dataslate. I also need to pick up some more biovores. When does the dataslate come out? Black Library keeps saying it is still on pre-order status.
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Mar 2, 2014 19:47
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It's out, you can buy it if you click preorder. All of the normal options are available for all units and unit size is similarly normal except when specified. Objective Secured only works on the Gargoyles in the formation so I would bulk them out a bit. I said I would buy a Tyranid army if they got scoring Gargoyles and these are even better than scoring so I guess I'm heading to the digestive pool soon.
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Mar 2, 2014 20:02
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So how do people consider WH30K relative to 40K? If I show up with a HH army will that be mocked? My buddy showed me the HH book and it looks like there's finally a way I could do Iron Warriors without them being a joke.
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Mar 2, 2014 20:03
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30k armies aren't really well-balanced for 40k. I don't know if they're 40k legit either.
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Mar 2, 2014 20:23
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:So how do people consider WH30K relative to 40K? If I show up with a HH army will that be mocked? My buddy showed me the HH book and it looks like there's finally a way I could do Iron Warriors without them being a joke. Edit: misread that, I are dumb.
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Mar 2, 2014 20:39
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:So how do people consider WH30K relative to 40K? If I show up with a HH army will that be mocked? My buddy showed me the HH book and it looks like there's finally a way I could do Iron Warriors without them being a joke. Until 2k points you're basically at a disadvantage compared to the strong 40k armies like Tau/Eldar/Azblob, at anything less than 1k points you might as well not even show up. People might be apprehensive because primarchs/super-predator spam/20 tacticals with fury of the legion!!!1/etc., but you can't do that stuff until you actually have the points for them (or with fury it has its own share of penalties). Mango Polo fucked around with this message at 20:46 on Mar 2, 2014 |
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Mar 2, 2014 20:41
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I don't give a poo poo about beating top tier armies. I just want to think about a new army that will be fun to play and not have a billion models like my still half painted orks.
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Mar 2, 2014 21:04
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:I don't give a poo poo about beating top tier armies. I just want to think about a new army that will be fun to play and not have a billion models like my still half painted orks. Then go crazy but be ready to explain to people why it's not a ridiculous army. Anyway, Iron Warriors are getting their rules soon, and two of the three artillery units have models. It's a good time for the iron.
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Mar 2, 2014 21:06
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So all of a sudden want to get a Medusa Siege Mortar and I'm now looking for how to build one without having to resort to ordering from ForgeWorld. I think I have a problem. Gods, if I ever get a job I am so utterly hosed.
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Mar 2, 2014 22:03
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On a whim I decided to look for a sisters army to buy in one go from ebay. Nothing looked complete enough so I started mixing up my keywords and I found this: Inquisitor Warhammer 40k L@@K!!! Female OOP Rare Great Art Sister Of Battle   $120 please. I wonder why China or Russia have not just recast sister models? I bet they would make a lot of money based on how much time I just sunk into looking for second hand stuff.
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Keybaby is pretty cool.
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