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Cpt. Spring Types
Feb 19, 2004

Wait, what?
I think it's a great album. It's definitely not a metal album, though it has its heavy moments for sure, but it's 100% Cynic. Really digging it. I'll also second that the mix is really good.

Edit: And after numerous listens, the lyrics are definitely stupid in places, but they're so loving prog-rock. It totally works for me.

Cpt. Spring Types fucked around with this message at 04:49 on Feb 9, 2014

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Alexander the Grape
Dec 21, 2006

Ott-tocracy

FanaticalMilk posted:

The bassist has way better stage presence than Myung has ever had.

Yeah, Billy Sheehan started in hair metal and has played with Steve Vai forever, so acting all crazy on stage comes naturally, I'm sure.

strap on revenge
Apr 8, 2011

that's my thing that i say
Man, I've just started listening to The Pineapple Thief (finally) and they've got some really phenomenal stuff. Pretty much the whole of 137 and Variations on a Dream are my favourites so far.

http://grooveshark.com/#!/s/PVS/2gpAJV?src=5

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WlE7B6vjbU

Vulture Culture
Jul 14, 2003

I was never enjoying it. I only eat it for the nutrients.

david puddy posted:

Man, I've just started listening to The Pineapple Thief (finally) and they've got some really phenomenal stuff. Pretty much the whole of 137 and Variations on a Dream are my favourites so far.

http://grooveshark.com/#!/s/PVS/2gpAJV?src=5

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WlE7B6vjbU
They're a really great band, and those are my favorites of their collection too! Variations on a Dream was a perfect breakup album for me after it came out.

Also recommended is Bruce Soord's collaboration with Jonas Renkse from Katatonia, titled Wisdom of Crowds. It feels vaguely like Bruce Soord's signature Pineapple Thief style coming together with some of the electronic influences from Pure Reason Revolution's Amor Vincit Omnia:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P66D8U7xxh8

strap on revenge
Apr 8, 2011

that's my thing that i say

Misogynist posted:

They're a really great band, and those are my favorites of their collection too! Variations on a Dream was a perfect breakup album for me after it came out.

Also recommended is Bruce Soord's collaboration with Jonas Renkse from Katatonia, titled Wisdom of Crowds. It feels vaguely like Bruce Soord's signature Pineapple Thief style coming together with some of the electronic influences from Pure Reason Revolution's Amor Vincit Omnia:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P66D8U7xxh8

I saw Katatonia open for Opeth last year and I wasn't really a fan but I will definitely check it out after I've finished Tightly Unwound. I nearly bought it when it came out purely because the cover art owns and I trust Kscope to release good music

e: yep that was pretty good, will check out the rest of it when I'm done with TPT

strap on revenge fucked around with this message at 06:00 on Feb 22, 2014

Iucounu
May 12, 2007


Katatonia have a very appropriate band name.

strap on revenge
Apr 8, 2011

that's my thing that i say
drat, this keeps getting better and better:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rpq5VRXIokg

Gamma Nerd
May 14, 2012
Ansur's Warring Factions is a pretty cool album. Lots of 70's prog/psych stuff appropriated in a metal context, but done very smartly. The first track has some great use of saxophone.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxDMMfTpxWI

Not a fan of the extended country hoedown on track 4, though. That's more of a BTBAM thing...

JAMOOOL
Oct 18, 2004

:qq: I LOVE TWO AND HALF MEN!! YOU 20 SOMETHINGS ARE JUST TOO CYNICAL TO UNDERSTAND IT!!:qq:
Anyone else a fan of Glass Hammer? Can't get enough of 'em right now.

Seventh Arrow
Jan 26, 2005

Yeah, I have "Culture of Ascent" and it's pretty great. I especially like their cover of "Long Distance Runaround" with female vocals. I should probably get more by them.

carborexic
Nov 9, 2008

Glass Hammer's track (a twenty minute long rock operetta) from that colossus of a concept album "Odyssey: The Greatest Tale" is pretty good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZEj6IxFWjU

Noise Machine
Dec 3, 2005

Today is a good day to save.


Has anybody been to a Security Project gig yet? I'm totally pumped since they have incorporated a lot of stuff from I-III solo albums. Basically if I can hear any songs from PG II is a total definite for me, and the price is totally reasonable for what I assume will be a 90+ minute set. Plus I totally wanna see Jerry Marrota play live.

luchadornado
Oct 7, 2004

A boombox is not a toy!

Steven Wilson put up a new page with links to Soundcloud stuff he throws up. Found this sweet track from him and Mikael Åkerfeldt (of Opeth):

https://soundcloud.com/steven-wilson/cut-ribbon
http://stevenwilsonhq.com/sw/audio/

Reading the description, it says the duo plan to release a collaboration this April which is pretty loving awesome.

Chocobo
Oct 15, 2012


Here comes a new challenger!
Oven Wrangler
Stumbled upon Votum last night. Didn't like the older stuff I skimmed through, but I listened to their 2013 album Harvest Moon seven times at work today and it's a good listen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DE1txZncgGo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrCzNsni-Fc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5FmUTs2j5c

strap on revenge
Apr 8, 2011

that's my thing that i say

Helicity posted:

Steven Wilson put up a new page with links to Soundcloud stuff he throws up. Found this sweet track from him and Mikael Åkerfeldt (of Opeth):

https://soundcloud.com/steven-wilson/cut-ribbon
http://stevenwilsonhq.com/sw/audio/

Reading the description, it says the duo plan to release a collaboration this April which is pretty loving awesome.

drat, this page is super cool. There has actually been earlier versions of "Cut Ribbon" floating around on the internet for ages (it's on the Out Absentia collection of songs as Wet Ribbon as an alternate version of Collapse The Light Into The Earth but this version is much cleaner).

I found another Pineapple Thief song I love, it's so much happier than what I usually listen to and I'm digging the poo poo out of it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBOne3Zwupo

Vulture Culture
Jul 14, 2003

I was never enjoying it. I only eat it for the nutrients.

Helicity posted:

Steven Wilson put up a new page with links to Soundcloud stuff he throws up. Found this sweet track from him and Mikael Åkerfeldt (of Opeth):

https://soundcloud.com/steven-wilson/cut-ribbon
http://stevenwilsonhq.com/sw/audio/

Reading the description, it says the duo plan to release a collaboration this April which is pretty loving awesome.
The description is over two years old and refers to the Storm Corrosion album that came out in 2012:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=manW5v-AR7U

strap on revenge
Apr 8, 2011

that's my thing that i say
Anathema is touring in Australia in August yessssssssssssssssssssssss

Vulture Culture
Jul 14, 2003

I was never enjoying it. I only eat it for the nutrients.

Chocobo posted:

Stumbled upon Votum last night. Didn't like the older stuff I skimmed through, but I listened to their 2013 album Harvest Moon seven times at work today and it's a good listen.
So this is pretty excellent -- I picked up some similarity to Riverside and Indukti, so I wasn't surprised to discover that they're from Poland. Thanks for this!

Attitude Indicator
Apr 3, 2009

strap on revenge posted:

Anathema is touring in Australia in August yessssssssssssssssssssssss

I've enjoyed the recent Anathema albums, but my god are they boring live. They have this aura of has-beens despite them never have being more popular.

strap on revenge
Apr 8, 2011

that's my thing that i say

Attitude Indicator posted:

I've enjoyed the recent Anathema albums, but my god are they boring live. They have this aura of has-beens despite them never have being more popular.

I have only seen the Universal blu-ray but they look pretty good to me. I have seen bands before with little stage presence and it doesn't bother me if they play the songs well.

luchadornado
Oct 7, 2004

A boombox is not a toy!

Misogynist posted:

The description is over two years old and refers to the Storm Corrosion album that came out in 2012:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=manW5v-AR7U

I feel stupid now, but at least I don't have to wait for the album.

Octy
Apr 1, 2010

God drat, several years on from when I first listened to it, Yes' Tales from Topographic Oceans is still amazing. Even with the weaker second side (although 'Ritual' is still good), I'd rank it alongside Close to the Edge. I've found myself listening to it on repeat the last couple of weeks and I never grow tired.

Iucounu
May 12, 2007


Tales would have made a great single album. (There are very few double albums I don't feel this way about)

Gimmedaroot
Aug 10, 2006

America and Islam are not exclusive and need not be in competition. Instead, they overlap, and share common principles of justice and progress, tolerance and the dignity of all human beings.
-Barack Obama


The new King Crimson rehearsals have started, with Jakko and Fripp at the helm.

alnilam
Nov 10, 2009

I really like Ritual (Nous Sommes du Soleil) on Tales, though, which is on side 2. I agree the album feels a little stretched out - and believe me, as I'm sure most prog fans do, I have a high tolerance for long-rear end music. But I wouldn't want to see Ritual cut out :ohdear:

Iucounu
May 12, 2007


alnilam posted:

I really like Ritual (Nous Sommes du Soleil) on Tales, though, which is on side 2. I agree the album feels a little stretched out - and believe me, as I'm sure most prog fans do, I have a high tolerance for long-rear end music. But I wouldn't want to see Ritual cut out :ohdear:

I don't meant they should have just discarded the second half of the album, I mean they should have chopped most of The Ancient, most of The Remembering, and a little bit of Revealing Science and Ritual. It's a great single length album with a ton of filler.

Octy
Apr 1, 2010

Iucounu posted:

I don't meant they should have just discarded the second half of the album, I mean they should have chopped most of The Ancient, most of The Remembering, and a little bit of Revealing Science and Ritual. It's a great single length album with a ton of filler.

Hey, 'The Remembering' is a great track. Don't you go putting it in the same category as 'The Ancient' which has nothing going for it. :colbert:

Gianthogweed
Jun 3, 2004

"And then I see the disinfectant...where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that. Uhh, by injection inside..." - a Very Stable Genius.

Octy posted:

Hey, 'The Remembering' is a great track. Don't you go putting it in the same category as 'The Ancient' which has nothing going for it. :colbert:

The Ancient has Leaves of Green which is awesome, and although that weird jam in the beginning goes on for too long I think it's pretty drat cool.

Rollersnake
May 9, 2005

Please, please don't let me end up in a threesome with the lunch lady and a gay pirate. That would hit a little too close to home.
Unlockable Ben
The Ancient is the most bizarre and perhaps best thing Yes ever did, and I'm in awe of it.

Declan MacManus
Sep 1, 2011

damn i'm really in this bitch

Tales from Topographic Oceans is kind of garbage. It's everything that people hate about progressive rock (well, 70's progressive rock) blown up into a double LP. It's so weird to hear people defend it, even in the prog thread.

Rollersnake
May 9, 2005

Please, please don't let me end up in a threesome with the lunch lady and a gay pirate. That would hit a little too close to home.
Unlockable Ben
It is kind of longwinded, but I've never understood how it's so much worse than Close to the Edge or Relayer.

I really respect The Ancient. The dissonance, the Stravinsky influence, even the "chanting the names of the sun, including some which Jon Anderson made up" bit people love to make fun of. It's ambitious, and unrestrained, and probably excessive according to some metric, but what other progressive rock band did anything like this?

Tales from Topographic Oceans is why I love Yes.

Declan MacManus
Sep 1, 2011

damn i'm really in this bitch

Rollersnake posted:

It is kind of longwinded, but I've never understood how it's so much worse than Close to the Edge or Relayer.

I really respect The Ancient. The dissonance, the Stravinsky influence, even the "chanting the names of the sun, including some which Jon Anderson made up" bit people love to make fun of. It's ambitious, and unrestrained, and probably excessive according to some metric, but what other progressive rock band did anything like this?

Tales from Topographic Oceans is why I love Yes.

I mean, Relayer is alright (better than Tormato, worse than Drama) but Oceans has problem with pacing, the lyrics, the overall composition (and not dissonance, I mean the overall ideas in place), the production (putting Jon Anderson's vocals front and center and significantly higher than Howe and Squire is particularly egregious)... it's all just kind of unfocused and sounds, to my ears, like a bad parody of Yes. Like, it's an easy target, but it's also not very good. The only parts of it that I really enjoy are Alan White's drums (sometimes).

As far as Close to the Edge goes, it's pretty much the peak of "how many different things can we get working in this rock album" without things becoming bloated or otherwise losing focus. It's got three songs and none of them have a wasted moment. Meanwhile Oceans has periods where I just wish the actual song would get going and then I realize that we're 8 minutes in and then I get why Rick Wakeman packed his 30 keyboards up and left.

Rollersnake
May 9, 2005

Please, please don't let me end up in a threesome with the lunch lady and a gay pirate. That would hit a little too close to home.
Unlockable Ben
Tales is one of those cases where I feel the flaws contribute to the album's greatness because they give it its unique feel, or something like that. Maybe I just really enjoy a spectacle.

I have to disagree with you on Close to the Edge, though, if only because of And You and I. I've always found it kind of a tedious, badly paced song that sounds like it's ending about three times before it actually does.

RC and Moon Pie
May 5, 2011

Declan MacManus posted:

I mean, Relayer is alright (better than Tormato, worse than Drama) but Oceans has problem with pacing, the lyrics, the overall composition (and not dissonance, I mean the overall ideas in place), the production (putting Jon Anderson's vocals front and center and significantly higher than Howe and Squire is particularly egregious)... it's all just kind of unfocused and sounds, to my ears, like a bad parody of Yes. Like, it's an easy target, but it's also not very good. The only parts of it that I really enjoy are Alan White's drums (sometimes).

I refuse to rank Drama ahead of anything anywhere, simply because of Into the Lens. I mean, there's goofy Jon Anderson stuff (Don't Kill the Whale, for starters) but none of it quite dips to that point.

I've been resdiscovering some of their stuff lately. A Venture has a such a different feel to it, perhaps because it's so short and direct and Turn of the Century is gorgeous on vinyl.

Rollersnake
May 9, 2005

Please, please don't let me end up in a threesome with the lunch lady and a gay pirate. That would hit a little too close to home.
Unlockable Ben

RC and Moon Pie posted:

I refuse to rank Drama ahead of anything anywhere, simply because of Into the Lens. I mean, there's goofy Jon Anderson stuff (Don't Kill the Whale, for starters) but none of it quite dips to that point.

DOOON'T TAKE LOOOOOVE

FOOOR GRAAANTEEEED

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hexwren
Feb 27, 2008


Jesus, I didn't know Kenny Loggins was fronting Yes now.

Declan MacManus
Sep 1, 2011

damn i'm really in this bitch

If you're self-conscious about the music you like, Yes is not the band for you, because everything post-Drama is embarrassing on one level or other (and really everything after Close to the Edge has something to pick apart, Going for the One being the exception)

Octy
Apr 1, 2010

Gianthogweed posted:

The Ancient has Leaves of Green which is awesome, and although that weird jam in the beginning goes on for too long I think it's pretty drat cool.

Well, I'll admit I haven't listened to it for about seven years and my taste in music has changed a bit. Time to dig out the CD.

Gianthogweed
Jun 3, 2004

"And then I see the disinfectant...where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that. Uhh, by injection inside..." - a Very Stable Genius.

Declan MacManus posted:

If you're self-conscious about the music you like, Yes is not the band for you, because everything post-Drama is embarrassing on one level or other (and really everything after Close to the Edge has something to pick apart, Going for the One being the exception)

Very true. Pretty much everything after GFTO is either awful or a guilty pleasure for me. There are some diamonds in the rough though. Yes is such a strange band.

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Nobody Interesting
Mar 29, 2013

One way, dead end... Street signs are such fitting metaphors for the human condition.


Gianthogweed posted:

Very true. Pretty much everything after GFTO is either awful or a guilty pleasure for me. There are some diamonds in the rough though. Yes is such a strange band.

Awaken is a bit more than just a diamond in the rough, buddy.

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