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Prism Mirror Lens posted:*walks into a room full of poorly-sized objects, is instantly blinded by the bloom off sellus gravius' armour, everyone else is naked* yep looks neat Haha look at how dumb u are your assignment for today - write a 1,000 word essay on what WIP means
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What makes essential NPCs retarded isn't the fact that they exist, but the sheer volume of them that are unnecessarily essential. They didn't just flag critical main quest NPCs as essential. Every single minor rear end in a top hat of a character who is even remotely related to any quest, scene, or service is marked essential. In the civil war you every enemy camp is commanded by an essential commander, making it impossible to clear. M'aiq the Liar is essential because absolutely no human being could ever find Bethesda's writing less than profound. Hell, some "Indolent Farmer" is essential, indolent farmer. He doesn't even have a loving name and he's essential. What I'm trying to say is that Skyrim is poo poo and Morrowind is better.
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Averrences posted:why the gently caress are people talking about morroblivion when skywind is just around the corner? All this video really tells me is that all Morrowind really needs is an improved animation engine to maintain its GOTYAY status.
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I am going to also play Skywind because I am okay with playing bootleg knockoffs of Morrowind.  There is never enough Morrowind.Gonna dualwield Umbras just for the hell of it! edit 2: except I gotta console the Skyrim one or use the console to go to whatever Skyrim has for testinghall edit: There is no way to travel to Skyrim from Morrowind right now and I am completely fine with that aside from not being able to use that broken as gently caress mod that lets you disenchant any item in the game to eat all the lovely Daedric artifacts Doctor Goat fucked around with this message at 18:02 on Mar 3, 2014 |
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Mar 3, 2014 17:57
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Averrences posted:why the gently caress are people talking about morroblivion when skywind is just around the corner? Skyrim's UI is really terrible, not even SKYUI makes it decent. I'd rather play modded Morrowind than deal with that.
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Chomp8645 posted:M'aiq the Liar is essential because absolutely no human being could ever find Bethesda's writing less than profound. M'aiq has CHIM. Go away. 
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I like almost everything about Morrowind better than Skyrim (I've been playing parallel Elder Scrolls lately, no rose-tinted glasses here), but there are a few things Skyrim got right that Morrowind never quite did. First and most of all, stealth is actually a viable strategy in Skyrim. In Morrowind, stealth might help to pick off lone targets, mainly beasts in the wilderness, with a bow. If you're really good at both short blade (or whatever other weapon skill you prefer) you might be able to sneak up on an enemy and get a stealth kill, but it isn't actually silent so good luck getting through a dungeon that way. If anyone else is nearby they will be instantly alerted not only to your presence but your exact location. In Skyrim, on the other hand, if you can get a sneak attack on someone with a dagger you'll slit his throat, which, in addition to just being badass in and of itself, actually makes the death silent. It also makes you feel like there's a real reason for you to bother using that dagger; in Morrowind it's a way to boost your speed, avoid carrying around a real heavy weapon on a character whose strength is probably low, and it's a stunlock of death in combat, that's about it. Which actually brings me to another thing; perks. The perks are cool. They're far and away from making up for the general dumbing down of the character development (no classes and three stats, hurrrrrrr) but they add a dimension to character development that definitely isn't there in Morrowind. Like the dagger thing, in Skyrim there is very high-level sneak perk that increases the sneak attack multiplier when using daggers (and daggers only) to like 12x, virtually guaranteeing you that badass throat slitting animation on anyone you can get the jump on. There's even perk trees for vampirism and lycanthropy, which I haven't messed with yet at all, but the fact that they exist is cool all on its own. And that's another thing. I never messed with the werewolf stuff in Morrowind, but aside from sun damage and stat boosts, vampirism was more of an addition of flavour text than anything else. The flavour text was great, make no mistake about that, and the presence of flavour text in general is a large part of what makes Morrowind so great (Classes in Morrowind don't really do anything, but the fact that they're gone from Skyrim still really sucks.), but simply the fact that feeding is something you actually do in IV/V rather than something people just talk about adds a lot. Morrowind is still far and away better, though.
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Averrences posted:why the gently caress are people talking about morroblivion when skywind is just around the corner? i love nerds voice acting remember when dagoth ur had a normal voice, with a tone of authority? too subtle for me. couldn't tell that he was the bad guy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0babZUEGGhE&t=18s
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There are some neat touches that Skyrim has, in regards to the little things. There's a nice little list of them here: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/TheDevTeamThinksOfEverything/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim The thing is, Skyrim misses the big picture for these small things. There are glaringly obvious things missing from the game that should be there. People should've recognized you for your achievements. There should've been a larger impact for doing things like killing the Emperor and conquering parts of Skyrim for your chosen faction. People should react to getting hit with a sword outside of a blood decal spraying out of them. But Bethesda just does these things, pats itself on the back, and thinks it has done a good job. EDIT: Also, we are now in DDRD. God help us all. SunAndSpring fucked around with this message at 19:52 on Mar 3, 2014 |
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thehumandignity posted:I like almost everything about Morrowind better than Skyrim (I've been playing parallel Elder Scrolls lately, no rose-tinted glasses here), but there are a few things Skyrim got right that Morrowind never quite did. Stealth in Morrowind was really easy and broken though?  Yeah, unlike Skyrim, you couldn't stealth in full glare of every lamp under the sun right into the groin of a Dragr facing you, but it was still super easy and incredibly strong.
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Hog Butcher posted:Gonna dualwield Umbras just for the hell of it! edit 2: except I gotta console the Skyrim one or use the console to go to whatever Skyrim has for testinghall Umbra is a 2-hander in morrowind you filthy loving s'wit
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Mar 3, 2014 20:11
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does this mean we can't make fun of the Games thread any more 
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SunAndSpring posted:There are some neat touches that Skyrim has, in regards to the little things. There's a nice little list of them here: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/TheDevTeamThinksOfEverything/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim This thread is under my posting protection. Fear not, Trolls will not be tolerated.
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Mortimer posted:Umbra is a 2-hander in morrowind you filthy loving s'wit Oh no, my failing memory has once again struck me maybe I can dupe Eltonbrands or something
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Mar 3, 2014 20:25
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Nice another gay rear end Gbs megathread.
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You're also missing out on a big part of Morrowind if you can't eventually jump between Vivec's cantons by virtue of Acrobatics skill. Skywind can never give you that.swamp izzo posted:Nice another gay rear end Gbs megathread. Thank you for the warm welcome, forums poster swamp izzo. Black Pants fucked around with this message at 21:02 on Mar 3, 2014 |
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Mar 3, 2014 20:58
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We must rename the thread to something more suitable to suit its new surroundings.
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WEEDLORD CHEETO posted:does this mean we can't make fun of the Games thread any more No, we still can make fun of them, little buddy.
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Quiet, here comes the guard.
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  Not even "last night's storm" could wake you
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just laying back in my chair, thinking about jiub
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Come on dude get out of my house. 
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Black Pants posted:You're also missing out on a big part of Morrowind if you can't eventually jump between Vivec's cantons by virtue of Acrobatics skill. Skywind can never give you that. Morroblivion has this stuff re-implemented and somewhere out there is a mod that allows spell creation in Skyrim. It shouldn't be hard to make that happen.
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Hog Butcher posted:Morroblivion has this stuff re-implemented and somewhere out there is a mod that allows spell creation in Skyrim. It shouldn't be hard to make that happen. get out with your morroblivion skywind realistic mare vagina bullshit no one cares
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It was nice while it lasted, Morrowind ownage thread.
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Police Automaton posted:Easy to solve. Make NPCs just truly killable by the player, else they just go into "bleedout"-state. The Skyrim engine even already supports this. And then along comes Dawnguard, hope you like your towns even more deserted than before
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reminder that if you aren't using the pocket dimension from the daedric crescent as your house, you're seriously missing out
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Saint Sputnik posted:And then along comes Dawnguard, hope you like your towns even more deserted than before What I don't get is how the DLC always beats out the main game in fun ever since Oblivion. I had more fun in Dawnguard and Dragonborn than I did in gay rear end vanilla Skyrim, and the Shivering Isles were way better than Cyrodiil.
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The land of shivering isles was pretty cool but pretty much every single NPC in there was utterly loving insufferable
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I never had the GOTY edition so this thread has pretty much made me prepared to get the Steam version. Are there any issues with modding on steam?
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Georgia Peach posted:I never had the GOTY edition so this thread has pretty much made me prepared to get the Steam version. Are there any issues with modding on steam? Not that I recall, and anyway there's a mod manager that handles all the annoying crap for you.
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I Said No posted:The land of shivering isles was pretty cool but pretty much every single NPC in there was utterly loving insufferable Well, the quests were still fun. In fact, I think Oblivion had the best quests of the entire series. The guilds were just balanced enough so that they felt worthwhile to rise through, and there were a lot of really fun quests like the one where you go into the painting or the one where you find an entire town of invisible people. Shame about Oblivion's everything-else, though.
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SunAndSpring posted:Well, the quests were still fun. In fact, I think Oblivion had the best quests of the entire series. The guilds were just balanced enough so that they felt worthwhile to rise through, and there were a lot of really fun quests like the one where you go into the painting or the one where you find an entire town of invisible people. Shame about Oblivion's everything-else, though. I still remember playing through it for the first time with my kid sat next to me. Her first comment when the emperor died was "quick! loot him!". We were so disappointed.
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Extra Smooth Balls posted:I still remember playing through it for the first time with my kid sat next to me. Her first comment when the emperor died was "quick! loot him!". Disappointed? You should be overjoyed that her first response to the death of royalty in video games is to see if they have unique and useful items.
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SunAndSpring posted:
I am also a raging sexual deviant and this is hilarious.
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Do we have any idea how long until MQ will be playable in Skywind? Not sure if I finally want to finish Morrowind or wait for Skywind. N'wah.
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SunAndSpring posted:Well, the quests were still fun. In fact, I think Oblivion had the best quests of the entire series. The guilds were just balanced enough so that they felt worthwhile to rise through, and there were a lot of really fun quests like the one where you go into the painting or the one where you find an entire town of invisible people. Shame about Oblivion's everything-else, though. Guilds were balanced? Wandering up and doing a single (usually nonsense) quest for each mages guild and then killing some necromancers and that's it to becoming archmage was balanced? A lot of Morrowind's mage guild quests might've been silly busywork, but they are at least realistic busywork where you start off as a pain for someone to have to waste time with and then eventually become more trusted through proving yourself.
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That painting quest was pretty cool, to Oblivion's credit.
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Black Pants posted:Guilds were balanced? Wandering up and doing a single (usually nonsense) quest for each mages guild and then killing some necromancers and that's it to becoming archmage was balanced? A lot of Morrowind's mage guild quests might've been silly busywork, but they are at least realistic busywork where you start off as a pain for someone to have to waste time with and then eventually become more trusted through proving yourself. The Mages Guild is an obvious exception. I'd rank the guilds/factions in TES IV as Thieves Guild>Dark Brotherhood>Knights of the Nine>Fighters Guild>Arena>>>>>>>>>>horse cum>>>>>>>>Mages Guild. Sadly, Skyrim made all the quests "Go into this dungeon full of draugr and kill the boss and/or fetch me an item."
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