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Molybdenum
Jun 25, 2007
Melting Point ~2622C
They do, I've looked into it. Delay is a .10 card, French delays are 1.00, foil French delays are 20ish

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AgentAO
May 31, 2011

FreelanceSocialist posted:

I'm struggling with an answer to Stormbreath in my Boros deck. Is celestial flare my best bet?

Depends on how heavy the red in your deck is, but I would probably run Mizzium Mortars unless you really can't afford to take that first hit. If you can't afford that first hit, Blind Obedience or Imposing Sovereign will give you that extra time to untap and use Mortars. Stormbreath decks will almost always play around the Celestial Flare on the attack, but you can usually get them on the block if you must run it.

jassi007
Aug 9, 2006

mmmmm.. burger...

What do you think about toil // trouble instead of act of treason? Seems like a good substitution against control.

RME
Feb 20, 2012

Count Bleck posted:

I eagerly await the next Un-Set including a 'Heart of the Cardboard' card that basically says "cheat anything you want into play for no cost"

Heart of the Cards 0
Instant

Heart of the Cards cannot be countered.

Search your library for a card, then shuffle your library and put that card on top of it. Then, draw a card.

You may play Heart of the Cards from your library, graveyard, or exile as long as you believe in yourself.

theironjef
Aug 11, 2009

The archmage of unexpected stinks.

Hmm... too restrictive if you actually need to own the card. How about "from your hand, graveyard, library, exile, or the limitless reaches of your imagination"

Count Bleck
Apr 5, 2010

DISPEL MAGIC!

theironjef posted:

Hmm... too restrictive if you actually need to own the card. How about "from your hand, graveyard, library, exile, or the limitless reaches of your imagination"

I cast Heart of the Cards, putting Biovisionary on the top of my deck, and then I do it twice more.

Then I shall cast Thrumming Stone from my hand, and then the Biovisonary from my hand, causing me to Ripple 4, and play the remaining three Biovisionaries from my deck.

Your move. :smuggo:

(Or not because it makes me draw them and drat you for that.)

RME
Feb 20, 2012

Count Bleck posted:

I cast Heart of the Cards, putting Biovisionary on the top of my deck, and then I do it twice more.

Then I shall cast Thrumming Stone from my hand, and then the Biovisonary from my hand, causing me to Ripple 4, and play the remaining three Biovisionaries from my deck.

Your move. :smuggo:

(Or not because it makes me draw them and drat you for that.)

Use Penance or Hidden Retreat to put them on top of your library.

Lets Pickle
Jul 9, 2007

AgentAO posted:

Depends on how heavy the red in your deck is, but I would probably run Mizzium Mortars unless you really can't afford to take that first hit. If you can't afford that first hit, Blind Obedience or Imposing Sovereign will give you that extra time to untap and use Mortars. Stormbreath decks will almost always play around the Celestial Flare on the attack, but you can usually get them on the block if you must run it.

I've been killing them with Satyr Firedancer + Boros Charm or Chandra's Phoenix + Searing Blood but that's not extremely reliable. Most games where I beat a Stormbreath Dragon is just me racing it.

TheKingofSprings
Oct 9, 2012

RME posted:

Heart of the Cards 0
Instant

Heart of the Cards cannot be countered.

Search your library for a card, then shuffle your library and put that card on top of it. Then, draw a card.

You may play Heart of the Cards from your library, graveyard, or exile as long as you have a magic puzzle.

People tend to gloss over that for some reason. :v:

Death Bot
Mar 4, 2007

Binary killing machines, turning 1 into 0 since 0011000100111001 0011011100110110
Heart of the Cards 0
Enchantment

Heart of the Cards cannot be countered or destroyed.

You cannot gain mana.

When ~ ETB, name a card. Place the top card of your library onto the battlefield. It is the named card.

You lose the game at the beginning of your next upkeep.

darkspider42
Oct 7, 2004

Best Buy security. You'll have to come with me sir.

jassi007 posted:

What do you think about toil // trouble instead of act of treason? Seems like a good substitution against control.

Toil/Trouble is just win more again the control decks. You've got advantage over the already with the main deck and adding another 3 mana 4/5 damage spell really doesn't add to much. You really want to side in the Firedrink Satyrs and go low with them siding out any number of removal spells. The G/R Monsters matchup is the worst and were you want to be devoting that sideboard slot but I'm really at a loss on what it should be. One of the changes I've been reading about is turning the Ash Zealots main into Chainwalkers to be able to attack through Caryatid.

Procrastinator
Aug 16, 2009

what?


Lets Pickle posted:

I've been killing them with Satyr Firedancer + Boros Charm or Chandra's Phoenix + Searing Blood but that's not extremely reliable. Most games where I beat a Stormbreath Dragon is just me racing it.

Apparently the new hotness to beat the creatures in the Monsters deck is Fated Conflagration.

OssiansFolly
Aug 3, 2012

Suffering at the factory of sadness every year.

Count Bleck posted:

I cast Heart of the Cards, putting Biovisionary on the top of my deck, and then I do it twice more.

Then I shall cast Thrumming Stone from my hand, and then the Biovisonary from my hand, causing me to Ripple 4, and play the remaining three Biovisionaries from my deck.

Your move. :smuggo:

(Or not because it makes me draw them and drat you for that.)

I cast Heart of the Cards and put Heart of the Cards on top of my library infinite number of times until you are SOOOO bored you quit and never want to play me again.

Zoness
Jul 24, 2011

Talk to the hand.
Grimey Drawer
Look all of you are just jealous you don't know the right way to make Doomsday piles.

And I mean, I don't either.

Bread Set Jettison
Jan 8, 2009

OssiansFolly posted:

I cast Heart of the Cards and put Heart of the Cards on top of my library infinite number of times until you are SOOOO bored you quit and never want to play me again.

Oh no its shahrazad all over again

AgentAO
May 31, 2011

Procrastinator posted:

Apparently the new hotness to beat the creatures in the Monsters deck is Fated Conflagration.

As much as I really hate Conflagration's mana cost, it kills both Polukranos and Reaper of the Wilds for the same mana it takes to cast them, as well as killing every single walker in standard besides Vraska when Boros charm wouldn't. If it didn't fall just short of killing Desecration Demon it would probably see more play.

Balon
May 23, 2010

...my greatest work yet.
Heart of the Cards - 0
Instant

Heart of the Cards is all colors.

Heart of the Cards cannot be countered.

Search your library for a card and put it on top of your library.

Your opponents cannot cast spells this turn.

At the end of turn you lose the game.

Draw a card. Exile Heart of the Cards.

ManiacMatt
Feb 28, 2007

This is not the pleasure planet I was promised!

OssiansFolly posted:

I cast Heart of the Cards and put Heart of the Cards on top of my library infinite number of times until you are SOOOO bored you quit and never want to play me again.

So it's a control player's card?

Death Bot
Mar 4, 2007

Binary killing machines, turning 1 into 0 since 0011000100111001 0011011100110110

ManiacMatt posted:

So it's a control player's card?

It's going STRAIGHT into Izzet Blitz

shades of blue
Sep 27, 2012

Zoness posted:

Look all of you are just jealous you don't know the right way to make Doomsday piles.

And I mean, I don't either.

Its almost always
Ideas Unbound
LED
LED
Gitaxian Probe
Burning Wish

jassi007
Aug 9, 2006

mmmmm.. burger...

darkspider42 posted:

Toil/Trouble is just win more again the control decks. You've got advantage over the already with the main deck and adding another 3 mana 4/5 damage spell really doesn't add to much. You really want to side in the Firedrink Satyrs and go low with them siding out any number of removal spells. The G/R Monsters matchup is the worst and were you want to be devoting that sideboard slot but I'm really at a loss on what it should be. One of the changes I've been reading about is turning the Ash Zealots main into Chainwalkers to be able to attack through Caryatid.

You'd want to pull Satyr Firedancer and 4 Searing Blood though, add 4 firedrinkers, might as well throw in 3 more burn spells that punch hard against control right? Or were you suggesting adding 3 chainwalkers to sideboard to swap for zealots against GR monsters?

Nehru the Damaja
May 20, 2005

A grown man in a fedora pitched a huge fit about losing to my friend's gooflord control brew at Game Day. It was embarrassing to be around. Went 2-2 in my first time playing in a month. Got a control mirror (aka the Game of Kings) out of it, so I'm happy.

ManiacMatt
Feb 28, 2007

This is not the pleasure planet I was promised!

Nehru the Damaja posted:

A grown man in a fedora pitched a huge fit about losing to my friend's gooflord control brew at Game Day. It was embarrassing to be around. Went 2-2 in my first time playing in a month. Got a control mirror (aka the Game of Kings) out of it, so I'm happy.

One of the teachers from my old High School plays at my LCS, it's pretty embarrassing when he loses to "bad decks" or "bad cards". You'll here him yelling all through the store. I mean it's entertaining to be the one to set him off, but it's embarrassing to see a grown man freak out so much over wizards poker.

He also now goes on leaves from teaching every few years to play actual poker professionaly.

Nehru the Damaja
May 20, 2005

ManiacMatt posted:

One of the teachers from my old High School plays at my LCS, it's pretty embarrassing when he loses to "bad decks" or "bad cards". You'll here him yelling all through the store. I mean it's entertaining to be the one to set him off, but it's embarrassing to see a grown man freak out so much over wizards poker.

He also now goes on leaves from teaching every few years to play actual poker professionaly.

I set a couple people off with bad cards at a sealed GPT like a month or two ago. Winning off Stymied Hopes or blowing up a Mistcutter Hydra that they could only afford to play for 3 (had to spend other mana removing nonblue threats) with a Flamecast Wheel got people hella grumbly.

Complain more while I go undefeated in the swiss, nerds.

vOv
Feb 8, 2014

If you turn Sorin, Lord of Innistrad into a creature via Mycosynth Lattice and March of the Machines, does he become a legal target for his ultimate because it only says "other planeswalkers", not "other creatures"?

a dozen swans
Aug 24, 2012

vOv posted:

If you turn Sorin, Lord of Innistrad into a creature via Mycosynth Lattice and March of the Machines, does he become a legal target for his ultimate because it only says "other planeswalkers", not "other creatures"?

ruling 1/22/2011 posted:

If Sorin, Lord of Innistrad somehow becomes a creature, it can be chosen as a target of its own third ability. If Sorin, Lord of Innistrad is still on the battlefield when that ability resolves, it will then destroy Sorin and return him to the battlefield under your control.

Always check the rulings, they're usually pretty good about stuff like this. My favourite will always be equipping a planeswalker onto another planeswalker, though.

e: whoops, while the ruling above is true I don't think it applies in the case you illustrate, since he's an Artifact Creature Planeswalker - Sorin, as Tharizdun points out.

a dozen swans fucked around with this message at 22:46 on Mar 3, 2014

Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


vOv posted:

If you turn Sorin, Lord of Innistrad into a creature via Mycosynth Lattice and March of the Machines, does he become a legal target for his ultimate because it only says "other planeswalkers", not "other creatures"?

No because he's still an "Artifact Creature Planeswalker - Sorin" since I don't believe he stops being a Planeswalker in addition to being an Artifact (similar to how a theoretical "Snow Planeswalker - Lim-Dul" would still be Snow if he were to wake up)

JerryLee
Feb 4, 2005

THE RESERVED LIST! THE RESERVED LIST! I CANNOT SHUT UP ABOUT THE RESERVED LIST!

Tharizdun posted:

a theoretical "Snow Planeswalker - Lim-Dul"

Things I didn't know I wanted dot txt.

Kabanaw
Jan 27, 2012

The real Pokemon begins here

Tharizdun posted:

No because he's still an "Artifact Creature Planeswalker - Sorin" since I don't believe he stops being a Planeswalker in addition to being an Artifact (similar to how a theoretical "Snow Planeswalker - Lim-Dul" would still be Snow if he were to wake up)

The reason he can't be targeted by his ability normally is because he's not a valid target by either criteria. He's not a creature, and he's not an "other planeswalker." If he somehow becomes a creature, then he IS a legal target of his ability, since he's a creature, and it doesn't specify that he has to target an "other creature," just a creature, which he is.

RME
Feb 20, 2012

So Wizards made a draft simulator thing I guess, but it only supports M14 at the moment, but I decided to try it anyways. Turns out it's the best draft simulator ever made because it even simulates cards from the wrong set showing up in a booster pack.



e; turns out I'm dumb and demolish was also printed in M14. Shows me for never drafting a core set.
e2; why do they keep printing demolish?

RME fucked around with this message at 23:00 on Mar 3, 2014

neetengie
Jul 17, 2013

Shittiest taste in anime and video games.

Samael posted:

Sleevechat- Got my first dragonshields in the mail today and I switched over from ultrapro and wow they are so much better. They shuffle so much easier and feel much better quality, never buying another ultrapro product again.

I highly recommend anyone looking for new sleeves to get the new Hyper Matte sleeves from KMC, they shuffle so drat well, riffle shuffling is great with them too. The finish on the back of the sleeves feels FANTASTIC, if you're that type of person who double sleeves, they're a great option for that as well. Overall I'd say the Hyper Matte's are the best card sleeves every made since now.

ScarletBrother
Nov 2, 2004

RME posted:

So Wizards made a draft simulator thing I guess, but it only supports M14 at the moment, but I decided to try it anyways. Turns out it's the best draft simulator ever made because it even simulates cards from the wrong set showing up in a booster pack.



That's just the wrong art. Demolish was in M14.

Chorocojo
Sep 25, 2005

Legendary Enchantment Creature -- Bird God

RME posted:

So Wizards made a draft simulator thing I guess, but it only supports M14 at the moment, but I decided to try it anyways. Turns out it's the best draft simulator ever made because it even simulates cards from the wrong set showing up in a booster pack.



It uses Gatherer for the card images, and since the most recent printing of Demolish is Theros it just uses that version. It was in M14 too.

Serperoth
Feb 21, 2013




Boxn posted:

I highly recommend anyone looking for new sleeves to get the new Hyper Matte sleeves from KMC, they shuffle so drat well, riffle shuffling is great with them too. The finish on the back of the sleeves feels FANTASTIC, if you're that type of person who double sleeves, they're a great option for that as well. Overall I'd say the Hyper Matte's are the best card sleeves every made since now.

I watched those videos a few hours ago.

I'd rate your post an A++, but if you're looking for low prices, why not just go Ultrapro?

ScarletBrother
Nov 2, 2004

Serperoth posted:

I watched those videos a few hours ago.

I'd rate your post an A++, but if you're looking for low prices, why not just go Ultrapro?

In my experience, you end up spending more in the long run buying Ultra-Pro because of miscuts and their tendency to split.

Boco_T
Mar 12, 2003

la calaca tilica y flaca
My Modern deck is a mono-white enchantment prison deck, and I wanted to get 20 of a Plains to put in the deck. Since it's already a troll deck, I got the best troll lands. Portal Second Age art, modern frame, white border. Right?

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JerryLee
Feb 4, 2005

THE RESERVED LIST! THE RESERVED LIST! I CANNOT SHUT UP ABOUT THE RESERVED LIST!

Boco_T posted:

My Modern deck is a mono-white enchantment prison deck, and I wanted to get 20 of a Plains to put in the deck. Since it's already a troll deck, I got the best troll lands. Portal Second Age art, modern frame, white border. Right?



Which part of it is a troll? The fact that a relatively pretty plains art is coupled with ugly frame and border?

Boco_T
Mar 12, 2003

la calaca tilica y flaca
Yeah. Plus the white border will make it easier for me to pull them all out when I cast Endless Horizons.

Promoted Pawn
Jun 8, 2005

oops


Boco_T posted:

My Modern deck is a mono-white enchantment prison deck, and I wanted to get 20 of a Plains to put in the deck. Since it's already a troll deck, I got the best troll lands. Portal Second Age art, modern frame, white border. Right?



If you're going to go for ugly basics, it's harder to do worse than 7th Edition.

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neetengie
Jul 17, 2013

Shittiest taste in anime and video games.

Serperoth posted:

I watched those videos a few hours ago.

I'd rate your post an A++, but if you're looking for low prices, why not just go Ultrapro?

I'm not a shill for the company, but to answer your question it's the quality. In the long run Ultrapros are bad and only good for sealed or draft play from my experience. I've had the Hyper Mattes since they came out, and I haven't had a problem with them yet.


Boco_T posted:

My Modern deck is a mono-white enchantment prison deck, and I wanted to get 20 of a Plains to put in the deck. Since it's already a troll deck, I got the best troll lands. Portal Second Age art, modern frame, white border. Right?



Forgot monowhite go WU, it's the better version.

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