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Regarding rebellions, what happens if a faction leader is a count and his allies are dukes? Or if the rebellion consists of three kings? Will there be a new emperor ranked title for them?
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Mar 4, 2014 19:49
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Rebel leader's title is equal to the guy they are rebelling against, so it always covers any vassals of his. E: I mean the special rebel title he gets when he revolts.
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Mar 4, 2014 19:52
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EDIT ^^I'm almost afraid of the answer, but what DLC feature was it that sparked the quote in your title? I'm most excited by the new tab for Friends and Rivals. Finally, while real me can't have friends, my simulated sociopath monarch CAN.
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Mar 4, 2014 19:53
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Veryslightlymad posted:EDIT ^^I'm almost afraid of the answer, but what DLC feature was it that sparked the quote in your title? Probably Sunset Invasion. The amount of butthurt over non-historical DLC was amazing. Veryslightlymad posted:I'm most excited by the new tab for Friends and Rivals. Finally, while real me can't have friends, my simulated sociopath monarch CAN. Does this mean we'll have a larger character panel? It can already get really packed with a lot of traits, and often the siblings part is unusable in a large family.
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Mar 4, 2014 19:57
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Darkrenown posted:The Maldives are down by India Oh, I feel dumb. I had a brain fart and thought they were talking about the Canaries.
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Mar 4, 2014 19:58
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Has an exact release date been announced yet?
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Mar 4, 2014 20:01
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Darkrenown posted:Rebel leader's title is equal to the guy they are rebelling against, so it always covers any vassals of his. Thanks, it's actually pretty logical 
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Mar 4, 2014 20:03
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Allyn posted:Correct, and the elective succession faction can only be started with the lowest level of CA. So if you're already at medium, you can't lower it twice in one lifetime to make this possible. So... um... wait & hope that the wars end, I guess Wait, it can only be started with the lowest CA level? Does that mean that the only way for someone to start an elective succession faction is if I'm at Autonomous Vassals? That really sucks. I'm tempted to just use the 'all-laws' cheat and force it through, especially since there's no good way of even knowing which vassals are fighting or when they've stopped for five minutes. It is kind of dumb in general that all your vassals need to like you in order to give them something that will make them happy. "Sorry I won't approve something that makes me like you more unless I already like you in the first place  "
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Mar 4, 2014 20:13
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Few things annoy me more than a rebellion breaking out to put some relative of mine on the throne, clicking on the claimant and seeing he\she is in my court! It really takes some gall to live in my castle, sit and my table and eat my food, all while having people fighting for you to usurp one of my titles!  To top it off, I don't get cause to arrest the claimant! How does this make any sense?
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Mar 4, 2014 20:16
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monster on a stick posted:I'm tempted to just use the 'all-laws' cheat and force it through, especially since there's no good way of even knowing which vassals are fighting or when they've stopped for five minutes. If you're going to use the console to change it, just type succ feudal_elective in the console.
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Mar 4, 2014 20:21
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Bishop Rodan posted:
The possessed trait frequently has characters change their religion to heresies and gives them the Jesus Gives Military Advice if its a Christian heresy.
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Mar 4, 2014 20:24
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Tibetan DLC hinted at?
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Mar 4, 2014 20:27
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EasternBronze posted:Few things annoy me more than a rebellion breaking out to put some relative of mine on the throne, clicking on the claimant and seeing he\she is in my court! It really takes some gall to live in my castle, sit and my table and eat my food, all while having people fighting for you to usurp one of my titles!
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Mar 4, 2014 20:32
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Tibetan DLC hinted at? Or for the more cynical, they didn't include Tibet for fear of making China mad.
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Mar 4, 2014 20:33
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SeaTard posted:Or for the more cynical, they didn't include Tibet for fear of making China mad. I really doubt it. The HoI series has been banned in China repeatedly and they get on just fine.
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Mar 4, 2014 20:34
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Veryslightlymad posted:EDIT ^^I'm almost afraid of the answer, but what DLC feature was it that sparked the quote in your title? SeaTard posted:Probably Sunset Invasion. The amount of butthurt over non-historical DLC was amazing. Yup. The actual quoted post was probably someone trolling given how amazing it is, but no one was quite sure. SeaTard posted:Or for the more cynical, they didn't include Tibet for fear of making China mad. Eh, I doubt China will get any madder than they already are over Tibet in EU or Warlords/Tibet in HoI.
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Mar 4, 2014 20:38
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Darkrenown posted:New RoI DD: No mention of fixes to the decadence mechanic, although they did say there were more changes worth mentioning next week.
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Mar 4, 2014 20:41
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CapnAndy posted:Because the claimant didn't do anything, that's why. They were just sitting around in your castle and eating your food, it's not their fault a bunch of assholes decided to put them on the throne and went to war with you over it. It may not be their fault but if you fire off an intrigue plot to kill them, it should start at 1000% since presumably you or your spymaster can just push them off a flight of stairs into a pit of hungry crocogators and call it a day.
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Mar 4, 2014 20:44
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Lots of shout outs to Wiz during this. Good to see they're using his cool ideas.
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Mar 4, 2014 20:46
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I started a game as Tuscany a few days ago. It's the first time I've played from the Stamford Bridge bookmark in a long time and if I thought dealing with the HRE was bad before, it's even worse when they have a vassal Pope. I did at least manage to break away and unify the Italian peninsula, but then the entire duchy of Lombardy passed through the HRE through inheritance somehow and I have no idea how to get it back. I guess I have to wait for internal strife to tear the realm apart and press a courtier's claim, but in about 150+ years the only civil wars the HRE have had have all been caused by me with only two total other participants. I also want to break their vassalage of the Papacy, would I have to press my own antipope to make that happen? Speaking of stability, in addition to Arabia and the Levant, the Fatimids hold all of Persia, Anatolia, Tunsia, and parts of Greece. They had a decadence revolt, but all that did was put a different dynasty in charge. I hope that the reworked decadence makes Muslim realms shatter when they have decadence revolts because at this point I don't think even the Ilkhanate stands a chance against them. On the bright side, I saw Castille drive the Muslims out of Iberia and form Hispania, only to completely fall apart and lose half the peninsula to Islam again within a decade.
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Mar 4, 2014 20:55
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Just noticed the coast of West Africa has been cut off.
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Mar 4, 2014 21:00
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Seeing that they said friends and rivals are "a very underused concept in the game" I wonder if they'll add in something to make it more interesting like if two rulers are friends, they are allied?
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Mar 4, 2014 21:01
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SeaTard posted:Probably Sunset Invasion. The amount of butthurt over non-historical DLC was amazing. Which is a shame, because I think it would be fun to get a few more small crazy/fantastic DLC. 
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Mar 4, 2014 21:12
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Spiderfist Island posted:Seeing that they said friends and rivals are "a very underused concept in the game" I wonder if they'll add in something to make it more interesting like if two rulers are friends, they are allied? I think friends should at least be of a similar rank to you - seems weird having a special event for some schlub with no title.
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Mar 4, 2014 21:16
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Fintilgin posted:Which is a shame, because I think it would be fun to get a few more small crazy/fantastic DLC. If Paradox stopped doing things because they pissed off racist/nationalistic/bigoted Paradox forums posters, they wouldn't make any more games ever.
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Mar 4, 2014 21:18
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Hmm, no mention of anything about Indian theocracies ruled by the Brahmins, though they did say that if you were a Kshatriya and had temple holdings there would be major penalties I think? But that's just standard noble vs. temple stuff.JGBeagle posted:Just noticed the coast of West Africa has been cut off. To be fair, even when it existed there were no ports there in both vanilla and CK2+, dunno about HIP.
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Mar 4, 2014 21:21
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chippocrates posted:I think friends should at least be of a similar rank to you - seems weird having a special event for some schlub with no title. It's especially great when you are fighting off Abbasid or Mongol doomstacks and you get the "I can call my friend for help!" popup when he's a baron in Scotland or something.
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Mar 4, 2014 21:34
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monster on a stick posted:It's especially great when you are fighting off Abbasid or Mongol doomstacks and you get the "I can call my friend for help!" popup when he's a baron in Scotland or something. I didn't have the heart to tell him no.
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Mar 4, 2014 21:38
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Fintilgin posted:Which is a shame, because I think it would be fun to get a few more small crazy/fantastic DLC. Heh. People would have paid for that Zombie April fool's joke. Instead it ended up a mod. Better or worse is hard to say. I'd like to see something of the Inca with Guns.
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Mar 4, 2014 21:49
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Bloodly posted:Heh. People would have paid for that Zombie April fool's joke. Instead it ended up a mod. Better or worse is hard to say. Should be entirely possible with the changes they made to Horse Archers being a moddable 'Special Unit' dependent on culture. They explicitly mentioned modders could make it into gunmen (or wizards!)
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Mar 4, 2014 21:52
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Fintilgin posted:Which is a shame, because I think it would be fun to get a few more small crazy/fantastic DLC. Zulu invasion from the south, polar bear invasion from the north and skeleton invasion from the middle of Poland (Gates of Hell opens, but this time something is coming out).
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Mar 4, 2014 22:00
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AdjectiveNoun posted:Should be entirely possible with the changes they made to Horse Archers being a moddable 'Special Unit' dependent on culture. They explicitly mentioned modders could make it into gunmen (or wizards!) See, if I made friends with a wizard on Pilgrimage and he offered to help out in a war, I'd take him up on it.
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Mar 4, 2014 22:01
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Can't help but notice Iceland looking kinda squished in the corner there.
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Mar 4, 2014 23:12
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Geokinesis posted:No mention of fixes to the decadence mechanic, although they did say there were more changes worth mentioning next week.
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Mar 4, 2014 23:18
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telcontar posted:It was mentioned in the stream. Decadence is going to be a trait that characters have a chance of acquiring if they're unlanded and/or have bad traits. Only characters with the decadent trait will actually contribute decadence to your dynasty now, and your character can convince them to mend their decadent ways.
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Mar 4, 2014 23:22
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Glad to see they're going to make the Eastern bodies of water navigable. That's going to make it a lot easier shuttling troops around the Muslim parts of the map.
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Mar 4, 2014 23:31
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CapnAndy posted:Still not thrilled that members of your dynasty who are, like, seven generations and six siblings removed from you can still affect you, though. Trusting the AI not to gently caress something up is a fool's game, so you're still disincentivized to spread your dynasty as far as possible in a game that literally scores you based on how well you spread your dynasty as far as possible. At least you'll be able to get rid of all of their decadence now
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Mar 5, 2014 00:16
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Node posted:The possessed trait frequently has characters change their religion to heresies and gives them the Jesus Gives Military Advice if its a Christian heresy. Yeah, I knew that, but the thing I found weird is that Sicily somehow became a republic (it was a kingdom before) with a female Doge, since republics are locked into agnatic seniority.
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Mar 5, 2014 00:24
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Bishop Rodan posted:Yeah, I knew that, but the thing I found weird is that Sicily somehow became a republic (it was a kingdom before) with a female Doge, since republics are locked into agnatic seniority. Someone probably pressed a claim, shifting the capital to a coastal city, which automatically becomes a republic for duke+ titles.
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Mar 5, 2014 01:08
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SeaTard posted:Someone probably pressed a claim, shifting the capital to a coastal city, which automatically becomes a republic for duke+ titles. But for that to work, the woman would have to be a mayor in the first place, and I don't think that can happen. City titles aren't passed to an heir, a new character is generated at the (prince-)mayor's death, and AFAIK, the game only generates male mayors. Can republics even change crown laws?
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