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Fried Chicken posted:What the Christ movie did you see? 12 Years A Slave was an absolutely amazing film. It was fine. It's not transcendental or anything, though I imagine any number of white folks watching it used it to experience catharsis. For me it was exemplified by Ellen's selfie, crowded with self-satisfied white stars at a gala event.
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gently caress You And Diebold posted:Michelle Obama vows to help ‘confused and bewildered’ moms shop for groceries Also quote:To: 2ndDivisionVet 
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ArchangeI posted:B. Obama: "I don't think suicide is a good idea and I would certainly never do it." Reminder that when Michelle Obama said "drink more water" they went nuts about how water was bad
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Mar 4, 2014 18:07
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SedanChair posted:It was fine. It's not transcendental or anything, though I imagine any number of white folks watching it used it to experience catharsis. And I'm not really sure what catharsis you think white people are getting from it, unless you are using the term to just refer to how it basically forces empathy with alien circumstances. quote:For me it was exemplified by Ellen's selfie, crowded with self-satisfied white stars at a gala event.
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Mar 4, 2014 18:11
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Fried Chicken posted:Reminder that when Michelle Obama said "drink more water" they went nuts about how water was bad From the people whose reaction to the discovery of a fresh water aquifer in Africa was a desire to piss in it.
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Mar 4, 2014 18:40
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cafel posted:This Imperial propaganda against the noble Wookie sickens me. All so they can excuse the Wookie slave labor used to construct the Death Star.
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Mar 4, 2014 18:48
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Zero_Grade posted:Hey, they should be thanking the Empire for rescuing them from a life of primitive savagery on Kashyyk! Look, those cables are vines and are stronger than durasteel. But they have emergency repulsorlifts, how can you call a civilization with repulsorlifts savage????
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SedanChair posted:It was fine. It's not transcendental or anything, though I imagine any number of white folks watching it used it to experience catharsis. For me it was exemplified by Ellen's selfie, crowded with self-satisfied white stars at a gala event. Yeah, that Ellen sure doesn't get those white catharsis issues at all... 
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Mar 4, 2014 20:38
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LGBT Troops preform in drag Two empires in one, heavily-labored breath! quote:> We cannot survive as a free nation if this evil persists. quote:I think it is to late, I cannot see how we can ever get out of debt and continue to survive as anything other than a Mind our own business, hard working get rid of the epa and all other waco agencies country.  quote:Such an insult to all of you guys who have served so nobly and an affront to the ideals nation that you served.
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Mar 4, 2014 20:55
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DemeaninDemon posted:LGBT Troops preform in drag Ugh. Rome's "last days" lasted 500 years if you're talking about the Western Roman Empire, and 1000 if you're talking about the Eastern as well. I really hate it when people try to say anything about Rome falling apart. I hate. Hate. Hate it. It's so small minded. So stupid. "Yeah. Uh, Rome had gays, and then they just packed it up and died. Sure, that's what happened." What just kills me about this is that when the WRE actually did (very, very slowly) fall apart, they were about as Christian and hardcore anti-gay as you can possibly be, and had been so for hundreds of years. And ERE, at the time and for the next 500 years, was even more Christian than *that*, and their major competing power was the loving Muslims. I mean, there wasn't anyone friendly to gay people in that whole region at that time. I guess maybe the Mongolians were more accepting of gay people and they were big players around that time. This is how stupid they are. They know that, at some vague point in "Roman" history (which, I swear, I just know they're blending Roman and pre-Roman Greek culture) gay people were more accepted. Then, at some hazy point in the past, Rome stopped existing. They've made this into some disaster event that never happened. They put two and two together, and they end up with a version of history where "Rome" was there, and then they got the gay, and then they fell apart, in short order. That's how stupid they are. That stupid.
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Mar 4, 2014 22:16
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predicto posted:Yeah, that Ellen sure doesn't get those white catharsis issues at all... She does get it. She's probably the person in the selfie who gets it most.
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Mar 4, 2014 22:50
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ColdSnickersBar posted:Ugh. Rome's "last days" lasted 500 years if you're talking about the Western Roman Empire, and 1000 if you're talking about the Eastern as well. But you can rest assured that the empire ended because God got upset over some random acts of buggery, and so he destroyed the empire despite it's conversion to Christianity in the between! ie. even if USA became a fundamentalist theocracy, God would eventually exact his revenge.
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Mar 4, 2014 22:52
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But I read in the Rise and Fall of the Roman Empire that it was all based on Christianity! Would historians lie?!
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Mar 4, 2014 22:59
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Nenonen posted:But you can rest assured that the empire ended because God got upset over some random acts of buggery, and so he destroyed the empire despite it's conversion to Christianity in the between! Actually the Roman Empire can't have fallen because by some interpretations of the Bible that would mean the End Times had come. Since the world has kept turning, the Roman Empire continues to exist in the shape of Vatican City.
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corn in the bible posted:But I read in the Rise and Fall of the Roman Empire that it was all based on Christianity! Would historians lie?! Gibbon should have laid down in the street and DIED!!!
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Mar 4, 2014 23:17
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Nenonen posted:But you can rest assured that the empire ended because God got upset over some random acts of buggery, and so he destroyed the empire despite it's conversion to Christianity in the between! But the Roman Empire was converted to the Roman Catholic church, which is practically satan worship. Doesn't count. 
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Mar 4, 2014 23:24
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Venusian Weasel posted:But the Roman Empire was converted to the Roman Catholic church, which is practically satan worship. Doesn't count. Real Christians are in a constant state of rebellion against their statist overlords.
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Mar 5, 2014 00:19
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DemeaninDemon posted:Real Christians are in a constant state of rebellion against their statist overlords. Lucifer, the original Christian?
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Mar 5, 2014 00:36
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RagnarokAngel posted:Lucifer, the original Christian? Yah that guy. The far right has no problem ruling over a hellish wasteland if it means they are in charge. Lucifer kind of does that already.
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Mar 5, 2014 01:00
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"I'm not racist." (claims every victory by any minority ever is due solely to racism) My local Right Wing talk radio idiot had this to say "Of course 12 Years a Slave won, of course. It had the magic word in the title: slave. I haven't seen it but it might not even be a good movie and it STILL won!!"
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Mar 5, 2014 01:27
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Seems very freeper to assume every white person who likes something connected to non-whites only does so out of guilt.
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Mar 5, 2014 01:35
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Mind Loving Owl posted:Seems very freeper to assume every white person who likes something connected to non-whites only does so out of guilt. Of course, just like how anyone who cares about gay rights is gay, and any guy into feminism is just doing it to try and impress women.
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Mar 5, 2014 01:38
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SedanChair posted:It was fine. It's not transcendental or anything, though I imagine any number of white folks watching it used it to experience catharsis. For me it was exemplified by Ellen's selfie, crowded with self-satisfied white stars at a gala event. Ellen DeGeneres, a comedian, doing something silly at an awards show = a care case of WHITE HOLLYWOOD laughing at human oppression.  Did you even watch the movie, or were you too busy running home to Tumblr to draft your SJW rant about how Hollywoood?  Interestingly, 12 Years a Slave was largely a British production, with an English director, best known for pretty indie films with limited market appeal, and starring an English and Irish man. Of course, to Freep, any film that isn't  is part of the HOLLYWIERD LIBERAL CONSPIRACY.Also, about that Freeper complaining about Lone Survivor - films about the War on Terror have historically flopped or underperformed at the box office, even if they end up critically acclaimed, like The Hurt Locker. Lone Survivor was pretty much the most successful non-documentary film about the War on Terror ever. It's not that there's some Obama conspiracy to suppress TRUE CONSERVATIVE PATRIOT MOVIES, it's that Americans seem to simply not want to see them most of the time. Free market, I guess?Films about the WOT tend to make so little money, that some have called Iraq films the "toxic genre". I guess people don't want to see the horrific things that the world has seen in the last decade repackaged as entertainment, maybe?
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Let's start the day with some Freeper tears. Gay, lesbian troops perform in drag at Kadena Air Base fundraiser ! quote:We R F:::ed ! I love the post/username combo here. quote:To: GeronL quote:To: sushiman quote:To: sushiman quote:To: ImNotLying quote:To: TwelveOfTwenty quote:To: polymuser quote:To: sushiman quote:To: sushiman Conway won't appeal Judge Heyburn's ruling on same-sex marriage, but Beshear will quote:To: Republican Wildcat quote:To: Republican Wildcat quote:To: Republican Wildcat; All quote:To: Republican Wildcat For some reason they seem to love using the term "shoved down our throats" when talking about gay rights. quote:To: Republican Wildcat
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quote:To: ImNotLying The way we're going to do this is by spewing bilious bigotry, refusing to acknowledge the basic scientific principles that drive everything around us, and denying civil rights to huge swaths of the population. Who's with me? OK, on three...
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American Soldiers performing a degenerate drag show on stage you say? http://publicdomainreview.org/collections/ww2-us-soldier-drag-show/
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OldMemes posted:Ellen DeGeneres, a comedian, doing something silly at an awards show = a care case of WHITE HOLLYWOOD laughing at human oppression. THOU SHALT NOT QUESTION COMEDIANS quote:Did you even watch the movie, or were you too busy running home to Tumblr to draft your SJW rant about how Hollywoood? I watched it. Did you have a point? Other than to apply "SJW rant" to criticisms of a movie that surely itself is a "SJW rant"? Do you think black people will be grateful to you for defending "their" movie? woke wedding drone fucked around with this message at 15:16 on Mar 5, 2014 |
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SedanChair posted:I watched it. Did you have a point? Other than to apply "SJW rant" to criticisms of a movie that surely itself is a "SJW rant"? Do you think black people will be grateful to you for defending "their" movie?  Jesus, maybe he just liked the loving movie? That's a heavy load to drop on someone over an award ceremony. Is there any serious movie about slavery that doesn't fall under the scope of your criticism? Or is it only okay to make a movie about slavery when it's an outright exploitation film ala Mandingo that institutional film snobs wouldn't touch with a ten foot pole?
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Cross posting from the funny pictures thread to end the retarded Oscars derail:
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SedanChair posted:THOU SHALT NOT QUESTION COMEDIANS It's always amazing when the mask comes off and we get to see which posters are in agreement with Rush Limbaugh and unironically quote VDARE. Yeah, it can't actually be a good movie, it has to be well received because of white guilt. SlipUp posted:
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I know we've covered the freeper purges a couple times recently, but god drat have they just degenerated into frothing, belligerent hatred. There isn't even any criticism left. There's no arguments being made. There's no debate points. It's pure, unadulterated, 'spray-n-pray' hatred. Looking at those Michelle Obama posts I can't imagine anything but some red faced old man with bulging veins trying to not scream explicit racial epitaphs at his monitor, and failing. Can't wait to see what happens in 2016.
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Fried Chicken posted:I still want him to answer my question about Schindler's List. I've got a dollar that says his criticisms don't apply to it for some magical reason Schindler's List was kind of a plodding, dutiful movie, not unlike 12YAS. I never understood all the hype but then again I got my youthful dose of horror reading Man's Search for Meaning. e: this is the author of your precious film woke wedding drone fucked around with this message at 17:48 on Mar 5, 2014 |
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Crain posted:I know we've covered the freeper purges a couple times recently, but god drat have they just degenerated into frothing, belligerent hatred. There isn't even any criticism left. There's no arguments being made. There's no debate points. It's pure, unadulterated, 'spray-n-pray' hatred. Looking at those Michelle Obama posts I can't imagine anything but some red faced old man with bulging veins trying to not scream explicit racial epitaphs at his monitor, and failing. He's not resisting the screaming epitaphs at his monitor. He's resisting the urge to type it and instead replacing it with wookie, amish, and urban ferals.
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SedanChair posted:Schindler's List was kind of a plodding, dutiful movie, not unlike 12YAS. I never understood all the hype but then again I got my youthful dose of horror reading Man's Search for Meaning. Black person criticizes people involved in race issues in which he's thoroughly familiar. Are you black? If not, what are you even saying? I will admit, though, that his use of the n-word makes my eyes roll out of my head -- but only because I know that there are white people in places like Reddit that will point to it as an excuse to say the word themselves. I can see that this guy doesn't intend for it to mean that, but that wont stop it from happening. Regardless, no single person is an ambassador to their race, and so no single person can ever give anyone license to be disrespectful to a whole race. Also, this article was written almost 10 years ago. My 10-year-ago self is a dead person and a total stranger to myself. All of this is irrelevant. 12 Years A Slave could have been written by a baby-eating child molester, or have been written by Hitler himself, risen from the grave. It's irrelevant to how good the movie is. Your argument reminds me of the myth that Darwin recanted on his deathbed, or that he was a racist. It wouldn't matter if he were. His works aren't judged on his character. EDIT: I want to point out that I haven't seen the movie, so please notice that I didn't mention any opinion on its quality. I'm only saying that your argument isn't sound. ColdSnickersBar fucked around with this message at 19:15 on Mar 5, 2014 |
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Crain posted:Can't wait to see what happens in 2016. The US will die for the one millionth time. Maybe even the patriarchy will die if Hillary runs a few times, too.
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Centripetal Horse posted:The way we're going to do this is by spewing bilious bigotry, refusing to acknowledge the basic scientific principles that drive everything around us, and denying civil rights to huge swaths of the population. Who's with me? OK, on three... The do realize that US soldiers have been performing borderline and outright homoerotic activities while in the field since forever, right? Talk to any soldier that has been stationed overseas and they'll tell you that it is a boring existence interspersed with moments of sheer terror, so during those long stretches of boredom they do whatever they can to keep themselves entertained, with this usually consisting of form of horseplay or other. Freepers and people like them really have this sterilized view of the military. They prefer to see them as cookie-cutter figures who follow orders, sleep, eat, and fight and when they're doing none of those lay in their bunks staring at the ceiling. It's a real dehumanization of the average grunt. Darkman Fanpage fucked around with this message at 19:27 on Mar 5, 2014 |
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ColdSnickersBar posted:Black person criticizes people involved in race issues in which he's thoroughly familiar. Are you black? Well that's what my birth certificate says... quote:If not, what are you even saying? I will admit, though, that his use of the n-word makes my eyes roll out of my head -- but only because I know that there are white people in places like Reddit that will point to it as an excuse to say the word themselves. I can see that this guy doesn't intend for it to mean that, but that wont stop it from happening. Regardless, no single person is an ambassador to their race, and so no single person can ever give anyone license to be disrespectful to a whole race. Also, this article was written almost 10 years ago. My 10-year-ago self is a dead person and a total stranger to myself. He does intend it, it's a hateful screed against poor black people. It's pure Pat Buchanan garbage and if it was written 30 years ago it would still be damning. He's proudly despicable, pulling the ladder up behind himself. And he's managed an impressive feat: to, as a black man, say "niggers" with all the hatred of a white racist. quote:All of this is irrelevant. 12 Years A Slave could have been written by a baby-eating child molester, or have been written by Hitler himself, risen from the grave. It's irrelevant to how good the movie is. Your argument reminds me of the myth that Darwin recanted on his deathbed, or that he was a racist. It wouldn't matter if he were. His works aren't judged on his character. That's an interesting perspective, and totally wrong. His hosed up self-loathing racist beliefs have revealed themselves in his movie, which presumably he wrote as a story about the last blacks in America who had the right to complain.
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SedanChair posted:Well that's what my birth certificate says... Okay, then. quote:He does intend it, it's a hateful screed against poor black people. It's pure Pat Buchanan garbage and if it was written 30 years ago it would still be damning. He's proudly despicable, pulling the ladder up behind himself. And he's managed an impressive feat: to, as a black man, say "niggers" with all the hatred of a white racist. Well, I can understand that. I can say, though, that I'm not about to judge when a black person can or can not say the n-word, because I don't have that amount of perspective on the subject. I can't know. So, what if he's angry, and speaking from a lifetime of struggle with that? I don't have as much right as you have to pass that judgement. I can still say that it annoys me that people can point to it as license to say it themselves. quote:That's an interesting perspective, and totally wrong. His hosed up self-loathing racist beliefs have revealed themselves in his movie, which presumably he wrote as a story about the last blacks in America who had the right to complain. Nuh uh, you're wrong. Seriously, though, if there are these negative qualities in the film, then point to those examples instead of pointing to an incidental article written in 2006. If you have criticisms of the film, then criticize the film. It doesn't follow that a creative work gains or loses quality based on some other thing that the artist does.
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I don't need to talk about the film (not that it would shed any light on things for you, as you've admitted that you're holding forth without having seen it). The fact is that a self-loathing Booker T. Washington type who praises black Republicans and makes fun of black men getting killed by police wrote a screenplay about the wretchedness of slavery. It's a revealing and inherently political act which is placed in context by his prior statements (no apology for or disavowal of his previous opinions has been offered btw).
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