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triplexpac posted:Speaking of great stuff WWE dropped, they used to have this really cool prediction game on their site. You'd pick guys and they would get points based on wins, appearances, finishers hit, weapons used, etc. It was awesome. Oh man I loved the WWE Fantasy GM game. Sooooo good. Broken as poo poo when you got 3 pts per weapon shot and had Sandman on your team 
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MassRafTer posted:Vader was given a big push out of the gate and was intended to beat Michaels for the belt to set up a rematch with HBK winning the belt back at RR 97 in front of a billion people. Michaels threw a hissy fit and refused to lose the belt to Vader. Cornette mentioned that Michaels threatened to get Vader fired at Summerslam '96 for stiffing him and yanking his hair for what that's worth.
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Mar 4, 2014 23:14
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Rusty Shackelford posted:I wouldn't call it a big push. He debuted at the Rumble and the next night on Raw he was suspended for beating up Gorilla Monsoon and Savio Vega. He wasn't on the February PPV and was in a lame curtain jerking 6-man match at WrestleMania. In April, he beat Razor in Razor's last WWF match, and was squashed by Yokozuna at the PPV in May. He then lost to Jake Roberts in the KOTR tourny in June. In July, he was part of the winning 6 man team at the July PPV and then faced Michaels at SummerSlam in August. I have no idea what they were thinking with the Yoko match (maybe to set up a match for Vader as champion?) but he lost to Jake via DQ in a match he looked strong in. The Gorilla thing was also a pretty heavy heat angle for its time, although today beating up the old authority figure doesn't sound like much.
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Mar 4, 2014 23:15
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Tharizdun posted:Oh man I loved the WWE Fantasy GM game. Sooooo good. Broken as poo poo when you got 3 pts per weapon shot and had Sandman on your team Haha yeah I remember picking someone one week who went on a rampage with a chair, I felt like I won the lottery
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Mar 4, 2014 23:15
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I'm pretty sure he eventually retired Yokozuna with a Vaderbomb to his leg.
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Mar 4, 2014 23:16
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DeathChicken posted:I'm pretty sure he eventually retired Yokozuna with a Vaderbomb to his leg. Not at that show, because Yokozuna vs. Austin was the Free For All match at SummerSlam 96.
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MassRafTer posted:I have no idea what they were thinking with the Yoko match (maybe to set up a match for Vader as champion?) but he lost to Jake via DQ in a match he looked strong in. The Gorilla thing was also a pretty heavy heat angle for its time, although today beating up the old authority figure doesn't sound like much. No, it was pretty intense, I know. But, he had been in the WWF for 2 days at that point. It did nothing for his WWF career. He should have started out strong by attacking a wrestler, not a 60 year old man.
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Mar 4, 2014 23:20
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Rusty Shackelford posted:No, it was pretty intense, I know. But, he had been in the WWF for 2 days at that point. It did nothing for his WWF career. He should have started out strong by attacking a wrestler, not a 60 year old man. The thing was that Vader was uncontrollable. He had a photo on WWF.com where Cornette was trying (and failing) to hold Vader back. He beat up his own stablemate, the commissioner, and the champ.
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Mar 4, 2014 23:26
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Yeah Vader from the start was supposed to be a giant unstoppable monster heel but they didn't book him like one at all.
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Mar 4, 2014 23:27
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Vader is one of those guys who, with any booking sense, should be a can't-miss. You have him come in, kayfabe injure people, boom, over monster heel. Vader also had the bonus of being really loving good in the ring.
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Mar 4, 2014 23:30
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He had a ready-made feud with Michaels, too. After he was eliminated at the Rumble, he came back in and attacked Shawn. That also went nowhere.
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Manwithastick posted:What are some of the best WWE ideas dropped almost immediately? EDIT: And more recently, Ryback went by the nickname "Big Hungry" for one single Raw.
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Vader looked like a Garbage Pail Kid.
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The weirdest part of that is that Shawn sounds like he had no idea of how to be a babyface champion.  "What, the HEEL... gets HEAT on ME? So... I can... COME BACK and go OVER him at the BLOWOFF? I don't get it!"
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He was a giant drugged out baby, so that's giving him too much credit for long term thinking.
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Rusty Shackelford posted:What was her name - Aloysious? That giantess from NXT Season 3. She was massive and completely different from the other girls on that season. I'm sure she was awful, but I was intrigued. Isis the Amazon was Aloisia Cromulent posted:I've always liked names and nicknames that don't stick for more than a week or two. Big Show was initially called "Big Nasty." JR called HHH "Tri" in the early Attitude Era after he dropped the blueblood gimmick. Right when I stopped watching in 2001, I could swear I heard JR call Undertaker "Booger Red" a few times, whatever the gently caress that's supposed to mean. WILDCAT KOFI KINGSTON oatgan fucked around with this message at 23:52 on Mar 4, 2014 |
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rotinaj posted:Fetish pictures and rumors of depression and suicide came out just after she was announced to be a competitor for it, and so they quietly dismissed her. The fetish stuff was really tame, it was like "Look at this giant woman next to this hot girl in a bikini". She was 6'9" and probably could've held her own against a lot of the men and been the next Chyna, but alas. We got Kaitlyn instead so I'm cool with that.
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VogeGandire posted:Vader is one of those guys who, with any booking sense, should be a can't-miss. You have him come in, kayfabe injure people, boom, over monster heel. Vader also had the bonus of being really loving good in the ring. Very true. How many men his size can do an amazing looking moonsault. Not many. It doesn't help your push when you have HBK threatening to get you fired over a blown spot. ColeM fucked around with this message at 00:28 on Mar 5, 2014 |
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sticklefifer posted:The fetish stuff was really tame, it was like "Look at this giant woman next to this hot girl in a bikini". She was 6'9" and probably could've held her own against a lot of the men and been the next Chyna, but alas. We got Kaitlyn instead so I'm cool with that. She was an ungodly horrible wrestler they hired for freak show appeal on short notice. She wasn't going to be the next Chyna in any way other than "She really sucks."
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sticklefifer posted:The fetish stuff was really tame, it was like "Look at this giant woman next to this hot girl in a bikini". She was 6'9" and probably could've held her own against a lot of the men and been the next Chyna, but alas. We got Kaitlyn instead so I'm cool with that. I looked up one of her matches. While she was selling strikes, I was thinking "huh, she's not so bad". Theeeen she did literally anything else in the ring or on the mic.
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ColeM posted:Very true. How many men his size can do an amazing looking moonsault. Not many. Watching HBK violently kicking Vader's head in is the thing that made me really dislike HBK. Michaels was a huge loving baby and I can't like him after he violently attacked a coworker like that.
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Cromulent posted:I've always liked names and nicknames that don't stick for more than a week or two. Big Show was initially called "Big Nasty." JR called HHH "Tri" in the early Attitude Era after he dropped the blueblood gimmick. Right when I stopped watching in 2001, I could swear I heard JR call Undertaker "Booger Red" a few times, whatever the gently caress that's supposed to mean. JR: "What's Booger Red? A nickname that I unsuccessfully hung on the American Bad rear end Character, as I recall, IE the Undertaker. Booger Red was the nickname of another red headed, bad rear end from Texas, former UT linebacker and hall of famer Tommy Nobis. If you look up 'Booger' in the dictionary, it is a southern expression meaning a frightening apparition of which Undertaker certainly is. Plus, he is naturally red headed. I thought the name worked but others didn't."
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Shima Honnou posted:Watching HBK violently kicking Vader's head in is the thing that made me really dislike HBK. Michaels was a huge loving baby and I can't like him after he violently attacked a coworker like that. Apparently it literally made Vader cry backstage since he has the body of a monster but the personality of a teddy bear.
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ColeM posted:Very true. How many men his size can do an amazing looking moonsault. Not many. Well, Cornette did admit that Vader was a "high maintenance" guy, and that's putting it lightly. He's notorious for being difficult to work with because of wanting to do things his way. Bam Bam Bigelow hated working with Vader at first because of this, and explained his stiffness was why Stan Hansen hit him so hard that he popped his eye out. That certainly doesn't excuse the poor booking and HBK ruining his push, but I'm sure his attitude didn't help matters any.
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Aku posted:Well, Cornette did admit that Vader was a "high maintenance" guy, and that's putting it lightly. He's notorious for being difficult to work with because of wanting to do things his way. Bam Bam Bigelow hated working with Vader at first because of this, and explained his stiffness was why Stan Hansen hit him so hard that he popped his eye out. Didn't he freak out when he found out about what happened with Foley's ear? Like full-on panic?
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Gaz-L posted:Didn't he freak out when he found out about what happened with Foley's ear? Like full-on panic? I wouldn't doubt it, because he was an oddly sensitive guy. He once delivered a stiff powerbomb to a guy in WCW and broke his back, which left him in tears afterwards. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-sVl95KI2c#t=1m50s You can see after powerbombing him, he turned him over and leaned down to check if he was okay, which the ref counted to three for a pin. He also reportedly cried after a match with HBK because he threatened Vader and his job during a headlock. EDIT: It's worth noting the ear rip was because Foley tangled his neck in the ropes, which is a spot he's done before, but the ring crew further tightened up the ropes beforehand, making the spot much more dangerous than it should have been. The end result was the ropes(which were actually rubber-encased cables) untangled much faster, ripping his ear off. finalcake fucked around with this message at 01:45 on Mar 5, 2014 |
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Who's idea was it to use elevator cables as ropes in WCW? Did a previous territory use them or something?
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Yeah, he said in his first book that it happened because the ropes were choking the poo poo out of him so it was squirm free or die. He squirmed but his ear didn't come with him.
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EugeneJ posted:Who's idea was it to use elevator cables as ropes in WCW? Did a previous territory use them or something? WWE is kind of the odd man out, actually, in that they use real rope. Most other places do use cables.
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DeathChicken posted:Although I could swear they did the Dracula ending once with Taker's hand coming out of the dirt. Not even sure how they pulled that one off.  Taker's hand didn't come up form the dirt in the hole, it came up through the grass in front of the grave. So, he was probably just still in the little room under there.
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The Wrestle Gif thread to the rescue! 
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What is the deal with CFO$? Are they strictly WWE, or are they just doing a whole lot of contracting for them? I thought Jim Johnston still did everything except vocals.
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cables long term are cheaper and far more durable/easier to paint. the actual cable is housed in tubing though.
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What was Eddy Guerrero's angle with the Hardy Boyz and Lita supposed to be before he was sent to rehab and released? All I can remember is him coming out once wearing a Jeff Hardy shirt and none of them liking it.
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Gaz-L posted:WWE is kind of the odd man out, actually, in that they use real rope. Most other places do use cables. I seem to recall two instances of a rope (or cable) snapping as Arn Anderson ran the ropes, with the second occurrence leading to his career-ending neck injury.
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EugeneJ posted:Who's idea was it to use elevator cables as ropes in WCW? Did a previous territory use them or something? It was a WCW tour in Germany with a local ring and ropes.
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dsriggs posted:Remember when they had Rampage Jackson on Raw while he still under UFC contract, but only referred to him as BA Baracus? When Glen Jacobs made 'See No Evil' his co-stars were interviewed on Raw.They kayfabed it and talked how Kane was scary to work with.
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harley posted:When Glen Jacobs made 'See No Evil' his co-stars were interviewed on Raw.They kayfabed it and talked how Kane was scary to work with. The best things to come out of See No Evil were the photos from the film's premiere. Bunch of c-list actors in their finery, posing for photos. Kane turns up in his loving ring gear. The best caption was something like "Kane watches his movie... as thoughts of destruction fill his mind."
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And then Glen Jacobs was inexplicably talking about 'Kane' like he was a different character.
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Aku posted:Well, Cornette did admit that Vader was a "high maintenance" guy, and that's putting it lightly. He's notorious for being difficult to work with because of wanting to do things his way. Bam Bam Bigelow hated working with Vader at first because of this, and explained his stiffness was why Stan Hansen hit him so hard that he popped his eye out. What also really didn't help is that this was post-knee surgery Vader, which sapped a lot of the agility that made him notable. He wasn't able to go as well towards the end, that combined with his attitude led to his burial and dismissal.
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