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Waffleman_ posted:If you can't eat the candy, why bother making it candy? It's kind of like homemade Play-Doh. Technically, yes, with water, salt, and flour, you have made edible dough. But a bunch of things are added purely for texture and consistency rather than for flavor, so you really shouldn't put that stuff in your mouth.
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Catalina posted:It sort of reminds me of Gingerbread Houses at Christmas. If you can't eat your gingerbread houses after christmas you're gingerbreading wrong  .
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Haha, brilliant. I'm so glad we decided to vote for Miho. I wonder if the reload count will surpass Shiori's run reload count. Looks like it will, seeing how we already have 22 reloads at Chapter 4 of Miho's route compared to 8 in Shiori's. This will be GLORIOUS. 
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I am looking forward to how you can manipulate the Mihos' availability. This is a really interesting development, and I wonder what the fan reaction was to it.
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You mentioned the Kasumi route being 'hardmode' in this game. Is it really worse than what you have to go through with the two Mihos right now? How does dating your teacher even work in the context of this game (I assume the character still lives with his parents, so they would, uh, notice)? Or is the answer to that question going to be too Japanesey for my liking?
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Gimmick Account posted:You mentioned the Kasumi route being 'hardmode' in this game. Is it really worse than what you have to go through with the two Mihos right now? How does dating your teacher even work in the context of this game (I assume the character still lives with his parents, so they would, uh, notice)? Or is the answer to that question going to be too Japanesey for my liking? Keep in mind that Sailor Moon, one of the most prevalent anime across the ocean and generally completely innocuous, features a 14 year old protagonist who just started high school having a boyfriend who's in college. I don't want to make any disparaging assumptions since there's people in this thread who actually know stuff about Japanese culture, but it's safe to say that poo poo's just different over there. Also, I'm laughing my rear end off at how ridiculous this Miho poo poo is. Shiori was difficult but interesting in a "hey here's how to thoroughly manipulate the numbers" way, but Shiori as a character was just kind of... there. Whatever Miho's story might be, I'm guessing that it's going to have a few twists that will turn out pretty interesting.
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Gimmick Account posted:You mentioned the Kasumi route being 'hardmode' in this game. Is it really worse than what you have to go through with the two Mihos right now? How does dating your teacher even work in the context of this game (I assume the character still lives with his parents, so they would, uh, notice)? Or is the answer to that question going to be too Japanesey for my liking? Mechanically, Kasumi is hard mode in the same sense as Shiori, but with some adjustments. She requires 130-150 in every stat (except for stamina and stress), which is a pretty big issue compared to Tokimemo 1 because 2 does not change stat thresholds for meeting girls based on how many girls you've met so far. In other words, no matter what stat it is you're working on, you have to avoid doing it on a weekday or you'll meet a new potential bomber. This is pretty much the reason that the Concert Band exists in the game - just like Tokimemo 1, you have to nothing but concert band and sleep until your eyes bleed. On top of all that, she doesn't show up until halfway through the game - September 2000. Time management is of the utmost importance to juggle everything that will be happening, and since Kasumi is friends with all of the students, any bomb coming from them will impact her negatively. As for dating your teacher, well, it's not really dating until after graduation. It sounds stupid, but from her perspective, it's just hanging out with an old friend until that point. She thinks of the main character as a little brother, and I assume the main character's parents are okay with it because they used to trust her to babysit and uphold curfew. Glazius posted:I am looking forward to how you can manipulate the Mihos' availability. This is a really interesting development, and I wonder what the fan reaction was to it. The fan reaction to it was mass confusion and speculation for about a week to two weeks, and then the first brave explorers who decided to follow the frog started reporting their findings to the Internet (which, as you may remember, was largely made up of Usenet and Geocities back in 1999!) and to various doujinshi/fan newsletter circles. Yes, self-published fan newsletters were still a thing at this point too. I kind of miss those days. But I don't miss them enough to go back to them, because holy crap disc swapping was annoying.
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Chapter 5: Summer vacation Giblo \'gib-lō\ 1. verb: To load from a previous save point in a video game and retry an action, hoping for a different outcome. 2. noun: The practice of loading a previous saved game and retrying. Synonyms: Save scumming Origin: from the Japanese ギブロ, an abbrevation of "GIVE up and LOad". To stay sane during the grueling amount of reloading in this run, I created a Giblo playlist on Spotify. I welcome suggestions on what you want added! 8/1: Plan the summer  Miho answered the phone this time. Goon: Hey... Goon: Want to go to the movies on 8/8?  Miho: I'm sorry. My horoscope tells me not to leave the house on that day. Goon: (Dammit!) 8/8: Plan the summer again  B-ho answered the phone this time. Goon: Hey... Goon: Want to go to the amusement park on the 22nd? B-ho: That day? Let me check the signs. B-ho: Hmmmm, it looks fine. I made a giblo mistake here: I scheduled the date on the day after summer camp, ensuring that any reloads I did from here would have to grind through extra scenes. Oh well! Lesson learned. 8/16-8/21: Summer camp! Note: Thankfully(?), B-ho will never come to summer camp.  Goon: (Summer camp starts today!) Miho: Don't push yourself too hard because it's summer camp, okay? Goon: Thanks. I'll keep a steady pace. Goon: You should watch it too, Shirayuki-san. The Miho event for summer camp requires at least Friendly status with her, so we won't see it this year - it's available all three years, though, so it shouldn't be an issue. 8/20: The Inevitable Shower Scene  Goon: Ah, the night breeze feels so nice. Goon: Hey, w, wait! Isn't... isn't that the w, window to the showers? Goon: Option 1: It's every man's dream. Take a peek! Option 2: I would never do such a thing! As we know from Tokimemo 1, the best option is to do nothing. For this week, at least, we're going with Option 2. 8/22: Amusement park date, take 1 Goon: (Did I get here too early? Shirayuki-san isn't here yet.) Miho?: Fudou-san, sorry I'm late.  Remember your training. Yellow blouse, closed eyes, small purse, blue umbrella with no frog. B-ho. B-ho: Your luck is on the upswing. Goon: Huh? Oh, you're telling my fortune. Goon: The weather might be bad, but maybe something good will happen today. B-ho: Yes, it will. B-ho: Where should we start? Goon: Option 1: Let's ride the ferris wheel. Option 2: Let's ride the merry-go-round. Option 3: Let's go to the fortune teller's mansion. It's very likely that B-ho would prefer the ferris wheel to the other two options, so I chose Option 1 here.  B-ho: I really love the ambiance of the ferris wheel. Goon: That doesn't surprise me, Shirayuki-san. Let's get in line. . . . B-ho: That was an incredible view. Goon: Option 1: It was so incredible it was scary. Option 2: It was fun seeing everything in miniature. Option 3: Yeah, it made me feel like I was important. Can you guess which one B-ho likes?  Goon: Yeah, it made me feel like I was important. B-ho: I know! I wonder why that is. B-ho: It's really mysterious. Goon: (Looks like I made a great impression!) There's an iconic line from Ghibli's classic Laputa/Castle in the Sky is quoted as often as "Luke, I am your father" in Japan, if not more. It's said by Colonel Muska as he reaches the height of his villainy and turns the power of Laputa to kill the army. 見ろ人がゴミのようだ！ It translates to "Look! Some human garbage!" or "Look, the people are just like garbage!" It's said a lot by the Japanese whenever they're up somewhere very tall, and... it seems appropriate to quote here.  B-ho: I'm glad I came. This was super fun. B-ho: Please, invite me out again some time. B-ho: Let's walk together on the way back home. I saved here, and then reloaded for  RELOAD COUNT: 23 8/20: Curiosity strikes  Goon: It's every man's dream. Take a peek! As in Tokimemo 1, there are three windows, and the contents of each are random. At my stream's behest, I chose the left window.  Goon: (Ba... ba... ba--BAKURETSUZAN!) Goon: (What is he doing here at summer camp? Why's he in the baths?) Goon: (And he looked this way!) Unlike Tokimemo 1: Principal Bakuretsuzan. Seeing him in the bath raises your Stress stat significantly, which can put you in danger of getting sick and losing out on a week or two. 8/22: Amusement park date, take 2  Sun hat, white blouse, frogs everywhere. Hello, Miho! The dialogue here is exactly the same as it was for B-ho. For comparison's sake, I went to the ferris wheel with Miho as well.  Again, every single line of dialogue is the same. Miho: That was an incredible view. Goon: Option 2: It was fun seeing everything in miniature. Miho: Yes, it felt like we were giants. Goon: (Eh.) RELOAD COUNT: 24 8/20: Summer camp peeking, take 2 My stream viewers voted on the window again, so blame them. This time, the shock drove Goon's stress so high that he got sick! 8/22: Amusement park, take 3  B-ho this time, so for curiosity's sake it's time to take her to the fortune teller's mansion.  B-ho: There are so many people here who are interested in fortune-telling. I'm so happy. Goon: I'm glad, Shirayuki-san. Let's head in.  Robot: I can see... I can see your future! (printer noises)  B-ho: Do you believe in fortune-telling? Goon: Option 1: I believe that your fortune-telling is 100% accurate, Shirayuki-san. Option 2: Fortune-telling is just statistics, so I believe it to an extent. Option 3: I don't believe in something as fishy as fortune-telling. Well. Flattery didn't work last time, and overall, this looks like a trap choice for B-ho. After much debate, I went with option 3  B-ho: I suppose people who have no interest would think that about fortune-telling. Goon: (Eh.) RELOAD COUNT: 25 8/21: Peeking, take 3  Success! Teenage boys rejoice! Goon: drat, I'm so jealous! I wish I was Kero Kero Debeso-chan! Mechanically, peeking on the girls comes with awful penalties - it lowers their affection, fills up the bomb gauge immensely, and doesn't even lower your stress. But it's worth doing once just to see the picture - well, unless you're in the Kendou club, because you're almost guaranteed to see Bakuretsuzan or Jun naked. It is not for the weak of heart. 8/22: Amusement park date, take 4  B-ho again. B-ho: Do you believe in fortune-telling? Goon: Option 1: I believe that your fortune-telling is 100% accurate, Shirayuki-san. B-ho: I, I see. I'm glad you trust me. Goon: (Eh.) Alright, looks like none of these will be good answers for B-ho. Best not to bring her back to the fortune teller's mansion! RELOAD COUNT: 26 8/22: Amusement park date, take 5  Miho this time.  Miho: There are so many people here who are interested in fortune-telling. I'm so happy. Goon: I'm glad, Shirayuki-san. Let's head in.  Miho: Do you believe in fortune-telling? Goon: Option 1: I believe that your fortune-telling is 100% accurate, Shirayuki-san. Miho: N, no way. But I'm really happy to hear it. Goon: (Looks like I made a great impression!) Flattery works quite well on Miho, it seems.  Miho: Today was even more fun than I'd predicted. I'm really glad I came... Miho: Okay, it's time for me to head home. 8/28: Fireworks show! B-ho is ineligible to show up for the fireworks show, so only set of options is available here, thankfully.  Goon: Oh yeah, there's a fireworks show today. What should I do? Goon: Option 1: Invite a girl Option 2: Go alone Option 3: Stay home This is Tokimeki Memorial, so option 1 is the only way to go. Time to call Miho! Goon: Hi, is this the Shirayuki residence? Miho?: Yes, it is. Goon: Oh, Shirayuki-san? It's Fudou. Miho: Ah, what're you calling about? Goon: Let's go watch the fireworks! Miho: That sounds fun. Where should we meet? Goon: Let's meet by the riverside park. Goon: Sweet! I shouldn't waste any time.  Miho: Fudou-san. Goon: Hey, Shirayuki-san. Miho: I love how lively it is at fireworks shows and Ennichi. Goon: (She seems to be okay with how noisy it is.) Miho: Um, uh, do I look weird in a yukata? Yes, this question has the exact same choices as Ennichi. Thankfully, the responses have the same reactions, so we know what to do!  Goon: Option 1: It really suits you. You look cute. Miho: Th, thank you very much. Goon: (Looks like I made a great impression!)  Miho: Fireworks are like a fantasy in the night sky, aren't they? Goon: Option 1: It seems like a very real chemical reaction to me. Option 2: Yeah, want me to take a picture for you? Option 3: It really does feel that way. For once, the choice is clear! Smile and agree!  Goon: It really does feel that way. Miho: There's probably a trick to it, but I can't help but feel like there's a mysterious power at work too. Goon: (Looks like I made a great impression!) For curiosity's sake, I reloaded a couple of times to check on her responses to them, so here they are. RELOAD COUNT: 27  Goon: Yeah, want me to take a picture for you? Miho: The wonder of fireworks can't be captured by a camera. Miho: Let's just enjoy the moment. Goon: (Eh.) RELOAD COUNT: 28  Goon: It seems like a very real chemical reaction to me. Miho: Thinking that anything and everything is under their control... Miho: Humans are very conceited, aren't they, mister fairy? Goon: (I made a really bad impression.) When things go badly, Miho ignores you and talks to fairies because she'd rather talk to them than to you. It's... well, it's not much better than the B-ho death glare, really.  Miho: Oh, could you be a time fairy? Miho: Can you change the past? Goon: Shirayuki-san? Goon:  Yes, that's right. When a date goes badly, Miho talks to her fairy friends and asks them if they can go back in time and erase the date from history. The good thing is, she DOES happen to know someone who can change the past! RELOAD COUNT: 29 9/3: Read Hibikino Watcher issue 3  Mail order (far left): An ad for super-dense turtle extract Z. "Just one of these will make you strong!" New Spot (top left): "The autumn leaves are at their peak season from 10/15 to 11/15 on Madarao! Be a picture perfect couple in the falling leaves!" Movie information (bottom left): Love Story on the Sunken Ship. "Over a hundred million tickets sold! If you've only seen it once, you have to see it twice!" Hibikino Stadium (top right): KO League Soccer. "The KO League is starting! The passionate cheers of the fans will guide the teams to victory!" Winter Sports (right side): "Madarao mountain resort opens for skiing at the beginning of December! Carve out the first trail!" "Hibikino Skating Rink opens at the beginning of December! If your girlfriend can skate, hold her hand and skate! If your girlfriend can't skate, teach her all about skating!" Still a lot more to go through, but due to inconvenient biological needs and professional appointments, the next post will have to go up tomorrow night/tonight! Next time: Drama club awesomeness. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LspCUpSIdAA vibratingsheep fucked around with this message at 17:12 on Mar 5, 2014 |
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vibratingsheep posted:Giblo \'gib-lō\ Hahaha. I encountered that word for the first time in a Japanese guide I was reading just the other day. I figured that was what it meant, but Google Translate had no idea what the gently caress to make of it. 
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vibratingsheep posted:To stay sane during the grueling amount of reloading in this run, I created a Giblo playlist on Spotify. I welcome suggestions on what you want added! Stuck on Repeat - Little Boots Earthquake - Little Boots Chick Habit - April March Here, have some music. e: It's Getting Boring By the Sea - Blood Red Shoes Road to Nowhere - Talking Heads I Wanna Be Sedated - The Ramones Miss Take - Horrorpops The Tracks of My Tears - Smokey Robinson and the Miracles Gotta Wear Shades fucked around with this message at 12:50 on Mar 5, 2014 |
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Both of these girls are uninteresting on their own but I'm really curious just what their deal is and if they're just twins or if it's something really out there.
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The_Frag_Man posted:Both of these girls are uninteresting on their own but I'm really curious just what their deal is and if they're just twins or if it's something really out there. Uninteresting? Miho talks to fairies and is probably slightly insane, and B-ho drops sick burns. They're both amazing.
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Gotta Wear Shades posted:Stuck on Repeat - Little Boots I approve of any and all Little Boots. New In Town is also fairly appropriate if you have to savescum over dates.
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Musical suggestions: Erase and Rewind by the Cardigans and I Got You Babe by Sonny and Cher, for some Groundhog's Day-ing
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quote:Yes, that's right. When a date goes badly, Miho talks to her fairy friends and asks them if they can go back in time and erase the date from history. The good thing is, she DOES happen to know someone who can change the past! Looks like you're slowly figuring out the difference between Miho and B-Miho. Shame, because it would be pretty hilarious seeing you reload a lot of times over the course of the story. Of course, you'd get tired of it quick, so it's a two-sided coin. Anyway, RELOAD PROGRESS! Shiori reload count at chapter 5: 9 Miho reload count at chapter 5: 29 ...yup, looks like Miho will win the reload count race. By the way, the amusement park chapter is incorrectly labelled chapter 4, when it's actually 5. You may want to fix that.
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Sketchie posted:Shiori reload count at chapter 5: 9 Don't forget the other point of scale: Shiori chapter 5 made it all the way through Christmas. Miho chapter 5 is barely out of summer vacation and has three more months to get through!
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quote:Option 1: It seems like a very real chemical reaction to me. TM2 Goon's a real charmer.
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vibratingsheep posted:Don't forget the other point of scale: Shiori chapter 5 made it all the way through Christmas. Miho chapter 5 is barely out of summer vacation and has three more months to get through! So if we're looking at the time elapsed in game: Shiori (at the end of summer break): 8 reloads Miho (at the end of summer break): 29 reloads I think we're in for a treat.  Edit: Shiori's run didn't hit 29 reloads until the second summer break.
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BlitzBlast posted:TM2 Goon's a real charmer. Look, if it was Yuina...
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vibratingsheep posted:When things go badly, Miho ignores you and talks to fairies because she'd rather talk to them than to you. It's... well, it's not much better than the B-ho death glare, really. This run is even more amazing than I ever imagined.. This also makes the "B-ho is a time traveler" theory more likely! B-ho obviously comes from a future where Goon almost got an ending with her, but botched it up with bombs. Then she became the Time Traveling Fairy to try and rewrite history. "Goon, I will soak up all the terrible responses for Miho, so that you two can be together!"
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Music suggestions? Don't mind if I do. Repeat - Jessie J Do It Again - Holy Ghost! Make You Happy - Mika
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ChaosArgate posted:So if we're looking at the time elapsed in game: So far I've gotten the impression that the Mihos will become easier to manage later on, while on the contrary Shiori became worse as we progressed.
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A couple of relevant music suggestion for you: Rewind, Rewind, Rewind - Joel Plaskett Over and Over - Hot Chip
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It's worth noting that over half of Shiori's reloads came solely from the second Christmas party. Miho will probably end up with the higher reload counter, since her route seems more luck-based overall than Shiori's, which was difficult because it was strict about what you could do and how, but there probably won't be a chokepoint that results in 50+ resets with literally no progress (though if there is... ).
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CandyCrazy posted:but there probably won't be a chokepoint that results in 50+ resets with literally no progress (though if there is... I wouldn't be so sure. Takumi's got to eventually come into play and I presume OP doesn't want him mucking everything up and will reload until Takumi's not interested in Miho. Might take a while.
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I feel like I should have more playlist suggestions but here was all that jumped out digging through my starred list: Not Giving Up on Love - Armin van Buuren (I personally prefer this remix though) Circles - BT It's All Been Done - Barenaked Ladies
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There is only one song you should be listening to as you reload interminably, and that is Tubthumping.
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R.E.M. - "Begin the Begin" LCD Soundsystem - "On Repeat" Daft Punk - "One More Time" and Lykke Li - "A Little Bit" is just a nice dating sim soundtrack in general, I think. I would definitely rather speak with faeries than my dumb boyfriend. Stagger_Lee fucked around with this message at 01:41 on Mar 6, 2014 |
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Since we're making suggestions for your playlist, well... If Never Gonna Give You Up, as tired and overused as it is now, isn't slipped in there somewhere then I am sorely disappointed in you. But also: Strange Disease by Prozzak.
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More suggestions for the playlist. I Wanna Go Back - Eddie Money Circles - Strong Bad
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A couple suggestions for the playlist: Again by Alice in Chains - The lyrics seem pretty fitting for dating sim reload situations. Also pretty good if it starts getting you mad. Back in Time by Huey Lewis and the News - An incredibly obvious choice.
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Playlists are fun. Rules of Nature Fortress The Typewriter The best version of 76 Trombones
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None of these music suggestions accurately convey the frustration involved. Black Onslaught should do it.
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BlitzBlast posted:None of these music suggestions accurately convey the frustration involved. Pretty sure songs have to be on Spotify for them to be considered since Sheep's got a Spotify playlist.
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If I get to include songs that aren't on Spotify, I'm instantly adding the following (but local files only): Kalafina - Sprinter Kotoko - Jihad Kotoko - Ao Iconoclast Persona 3 FES - Heartful Cry Thomas D feat. Franka Potente - Wish (Komm zu Mir)
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