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tuyop
Sep 15, 2006

Every second that we're not growing BASIL is a second wasted

Fun Shoe

Turtlicious posted:

No, and I'd have to apply for a credit card. I'm only 21 and I've been raised in Foster Care my whole life. If I get the loans, go to school, pass, and get a good job I could pay them off right?

E: And as long as I do well in school, I won't have to pay the loans for 3 or 4 years.

Ok so can you outline your plan for us?

If you don't have any desire to work in a particular field and just need a cash infusion to make ends meet, contact your bank about a line of credit or something and find a job. Applying for a random college in a random field and using your loan or financial aid as a cash infusion without changing anything is pretty much the worst thing you could do. Possibly worse than losing your apartment and living in a shelter for a month or so.

If you know the field you want and can project a reasonable income in that field as well as expect employment, then taking on a student loan is a relatively sound strategy. I'm thinking some kind of trade (like plumbing) or medical tech skill (like MRI Technologist).

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Jeek
Feb 15, 2012

quote:

Is there a decent alternative to a lint roller? My wife uses this little handheld machine that either pinches or cuts the stuff off but it's really time consuming and not good for when I'm on the go.

I.. I just want to be able to hug my dog before I go to work. :smith:

Hug dog before changing into working clothes. Problem soolved.

Turtlicious
Sep 17, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
I do actually have a plan of sorts, I would go to school to get both CompTIA++ and Cisco certified, so I can work in a corporate environment as a tech specialist. I know it's a two year course, and I plan to move from LA soon. I actually want to go to college, but it's 1 part "a stop gap measure" and 1 part "something I've always wanted to do." I have personal interest in learning programming to make my own rogue-like but that is a side project and also won't make me any money.

My plan was to enroll at the UoPX and get my Associates in Computer Technology with a shitton of certifications. Then get an IT job.

Ham Equity
Apr 16, 2013

The first thing we do, let's kill all the cars.
Grimey Drawer

Turtlicious posted:

I do actually have a plan of sorts, I would go to school to get both CompTIA++ and Cisco certified, so I can work in a corporate environment as a tech specialist. I know it's a two year course, and I plan to move from LA soon. I actually want to go to college, but it's 1 part "a stop gap measure" and 1 part "something I've always wanted to do." I have personal interest in learning programming to make my own rogue-like but that is a side project and also won't make me any money.

My plan was to enroll at the UoPX and get my Associates in Computer Technology with a shitton of certifications. Then get an IT job.

If you're in LA, I would be hella surprised if there weren't community colleges (probably with online classes) that you could do the same thing through for 20% of the cost. Go in and talk to the financial aid departments, they should be able to help you (assuming they're not incompetent). Given that your expected family contribution is zero, you should be able to get a good amount of help through the FAFSA; definitely get that poo poo filled out.

Just don't do University of Phoenix; they're poo poo. Same with Devry. To give you an idea, for-profit schools make up 12% of college students, but 46% of defaults. You are much, much better off using the community college system, especially in California, because they make it relatively easy to transition between community colleges and the UC/CSU system (if you decided to get a four-year degree).

Moving from LA may be a mistake, especially if you're planning to move out of state; I'm assuming you currently have residency in California...?

Turtlicious
Sep 17, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Thanatosian posted:

If you're in LA, I would be hella surprised if there weren't community colleges (probably with online classes) that you could do the same thing through for 20% of the cost. Go in and talk to the financial aid departments, they should be able to help you (assuming they're not incompetent). Given that your expected family contribution is zero, you should be able to get a good amount of help through the FAFSA; definitely get that poo poo filled out.

Just don't do University of Phoenix; they're poo poo. Same with Devry. To give you an idea, for-profit schools make up 12% of college students, but 46% of defaults. You are much, much better off using the community college system, especially in California, because they make it relatively easy to transition between community colleges and the UC/CSU system (if you decided to get a four-year degree).

Moving from LA may be a mistake, especially if you're planning to move out of state; I'm assuming you currently have residency in California...?

Tenuously, The thing is my Girlfriend and her family have been really kind and accepting of me, they live in Livermore and we've been doing long distance for 3 years. She is going to be moving to Davis to go to UC Davis, I want to move with her.

stubblyhead
Sep 13, 2007

That is treason, Johnny!

Fun Shoe

Turtlicious posted:

I do actually have a plan of sorts, I would go to school to get both CompTIA++ and Cisco certified, so I can work in a corporate environment as a tech specialist. I know it's a two year course, and I plan to move from LA soon. I actually want to go to college, but it's 1 part "a stop gap measure" and 1 part "something I've always wanted to do." I have personal interest in learning programming to make my own rogue-like but that is a side project and also won't make me any money.

My plan was to enroll at the UoPX and get my Associates in Computer Technology with a shitton of certifications. Then get an IT job.

If the online nature is what makes Phoenix look appealing, then maybe look into Western Governors University? It's also online (not sure if they have physical locations also) and fully accredited, but is not-for-profit unlike Phoenix and Devry and the like. It's a hell of a lot cheaper too. I know there are a few goons that have gone through some of their IT programs and spoke highly of them.

hoobajoo
Jun 2, 2004

Turtlicious posted:

I do actually have a plan of sorts, I would go to school to get both CompTIA++ and Cisco certified, so I can work in a corporate environment as a tech specialist. I know it's a two year course, and I plan to move from LA soon. I actually want to go to college, but it's 1 part "a stop gap measure" and 1 part "something I've always wanted to do." I have personal interest in learning programming to make my own rogue-like but that is a side project and also won't make me any money.

My plan was to enroll at the UoPX and get my Associates in Computer Technology with a shitton of certifications. Then get an IT job.

Every for profit school is a total grift, and most have curriculums designed to make you fail so you have to pay again. My wife failed her vet tech course because she was injured and the radiology lab was inaccessible by wheelchair. No make up, no written equivalent, just gently caress the handicapped we need money. If I could change one thing in our lives, it would be without a doubt going to community college instead.

TheLastManStanding
Jan 14, 2008
Mash Buttons!

hoobajoo posted:

She was injured and the radiology lab was inaccessible by wheelchair.
I'm surprised they didn't refund your money just to avoid an ADA lawsuit.

AlbieQuirky
Oct 9, 2012

Just me and my 🌊dragon🐉 hanging out

stubblyhead posted:

If the online nature is what makes Phoenix look appealing, then maybe look into Western Governors University? It's also online (not sure if they have physical locations also) and fully accredited, but is not-for-profit unlike Phoenix and Devry and the like. It's a hell of a lot cheaper too. I know there are a few goons that have gone through some of their IT programs and spoke highly of them.

Western Governors is just fine. Empire State College is another legit online school. Also University College of University of Maryland.

University of Phoenix is a terrible choice. Way too expensive for what you get.

There are tons of scholarships specifically for people who have been foster children. Don't overlook those!

Sephiroth_IRA
Mar 31, 2010

Gravity Pike posted:

Ffmpeg is professional-level audio/video encoding software, and is completely free to use. It is command-line only, but it's incredibly powerful. To rip the audio from a video, you'd run: ffmpeg.exe -i inputfile.mp4 -c:a mp3 outputfile.mp3

Thanks for this and your follow up post. Mission Accomplished.

edit: Why would someone consider a for profit school (the kind that advertise on TV) over a community college?

Sephiroth_IRA fucked around with this message at 04:06 on Mar 6, 2014

Drunk Driver Dad
Feb 18, 2005
In regards to the heroin/orgasm button discussion on the last page, I can tell you guys from experience that heroin and other drugs don't feel anything at all like an orgasm, and in general it's not as intense either(rushes from shooting can be intense, but last only a few seconds). Imagine a super comfy chair and great mood in drug form and you have an idea. Whether or not that changes the comparisons, I'm not sure, but there you go.

Turtlicious
Sep 17, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Orange_Lazarus posted:

Thanks for this and your follow up post. Mission Accomplished.

edit: Why would someone consider a for profit school (the kind that advertise on TV) over a community college?

I thought all colleges were for-profit.

Dudebro
Jan 1, 2010
I :fap: TO UNDERAGE GYMNASTS

Horror Queefs posted:

In regards to the heroin/orgasm button discussion on the last page, I can tell you guys from experience that heroin and other drugs don't feel anything at all like an orgasm, and in general it's not as intense either(rushes from shooting can be intense, but last only a few seconds). Imagine a super comfy chair and great mood in drug form and you have an idea. Whether or not that changes the comparisons, I'm not sure, but there you go.

Interesting. I have heard injections of heroin being described as "the best feeling in the world" though, especially the first few times one does it. You think being able to have these feelings at a push of a button would be greatly destructive to society though or would it be just like any other destructive drug? I realize this is going into some strange sci-fi hypotheticals so maybe it's better you don't answer.

Gothmog1065
May 14, 2009
Is there a term or a name for that game where you whisper something into someone's ear (a phrase or a word) and pass it down the line and see how badly it's mangled at the end?

razz
Dec 26, 2005

Queen of Maceration
Another question re: 4mb internet speed -

What's the best wireless router to get? Does it matter? What makes one better over the other ones?

Goldfinch
Feb 15, 2013

big-boned :colbert:

Gothmog1065 posted:

Is there a term or a name for that game where you whisper something into someone's ear (a phrase or a word) and pass it down the line and see how badly it's mangled at the end?

We just called it Telephone when I was in school, but I'll bet it's got different regional names.

Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

Your life and your quest end here.


Gothmog1065 posted:

Is there a term or a name for that game where you whisper something into someone's ear (a phrase or a word) and pass it down the line and see how badly it's mangled at the end?

When I was a child we called it Chinese Whispers, though I've also heard it referred to as Telephone.

Gothmog1065
May 14, 2009

razz posted:

Another question re: 4mb internet speed -

What's the best wireless router to get? Does it matter? What makes one better over the other ones?

If you're not networking between computers, it doesn't matter. A N router will give you slightly better range and speeds, but on a 4mb connection, you're not getting anywhere near the speeds of any recent wireless signal.

For reference, G is 54mbps (6.75 actual megabytes per second) theoretical speed, and most top out at about ~30mbps. So for basic internet use, just go with whatever. If you're doing something more (subnetting, access points, lots of devices) that would be a different story.

e: thanks Tiggum and goldfinch. That gave me enough to pull the wiki article.

Gothmog1065 fucked around with this message at 04:54 on Mar 6, 2014

Nighthand
Nov 4, 2009

what horror the gas

Turtlicious posted:

I thought all colleges were for-profit.

Nope! Admittedly, the difference can be hard to see at the base level. Non-profit schools are run by boards of educators and are set up to provide education. Their costs and donation drives and advertising is all geared towards raising the money necessary to continue providing education. For-profit schools, on the other hand, are businesses operated by investors looking to make a profit out of selling you education.

If you can name a school you remember from advertising, and it's not a state school, it's probably for-profit. ITT Tech, Full Sail, DeVry, University of Phoenix, etc. They're all more expensive than they need to be, provide a lower quality education than they could potentially, and have worse reputations. Bad reputations mean they, as came up in response to your initial post, at best are valueless or at worse detrimental to you finding a job. The perception is the education wasn't quite up to snuff, quality-wise.

Go to a community college for basic gen-eds to transfer to a 4-year nonprofit school later, and/or to earn an associates degree you can ride on for a while. Enroll at a 4-year then, get the degree you want, and hope you get a job in that field that pays well enough to support the crippling student loan debt you'll end up with. As mentioned above, go all out with doing scholarships, particularly those you may qualify for because of foster status and any potential minority/disability/etc factors you can think of. If you have a smidge of native american in your blood, for example, that can qualify you for a few. As someone who graduated with a lovely degree and lives well below the poverty line, I wish I had done that.

Student loan debt is a crushing burden and it follows you through bankruptcy, etc. All that was mentioned as well.

Gothmog1065 posted:

Is there a term or a name for that game where you whisper something into someone's ear (a phrase or a word) and pass it down the line and see how badly it's mangled at the end?

Answered, but I also always heard it called Telephone. Wikipedia actually lists it under Chinese Whispers: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_whispers

razz
Dec 26, 2005

Queen of Maceration

Gothmog1065 posted:

If you're not networking between computers, it doesn't matter. A N router will give you slightly better range and speeds, but on a 4mb connection, you're not getting anywhere near the speeds of any recent wireless signal.

For reference, G is 54mbps (6.75 actual megabytes per second) theoretical speed, and most top out at about ~30mbps. So for basic internet use, just go with whatever. If you're doing something more (subnetting, access points, lots of devices) that would be a different story.

I was reading some Amazon reviews and a couple people in rural areas (so, people that live further from the signal source) said that a router with an external antenna worked better than one with an internal antenna. Do you think there is any truth to that?

If so great because the clunky routers with the giant antennas are like half the price of the "cool" looking ones with internal antennas.

razz fucked around with this message at 05:04 on Mar 6, 2014

hoobajoo
Jun 2, 2004

Gothmog1065 posted:

Is there a term or a name for that game where you whisper something into someone's ear (a phrase or a word) and pass it down the line and see how badly it's mangled at the end?

Telephone in the US, Chinese Whispers in the UK. I'm sure every culture has this game by some name.

Drunk Driver Dad
Feb 18, 2005

Dudebro posted:

Interesting. I have heard injections of heroin being described as "the best feeling in the world" though, especially the first few times one does it. You think being able to have these feelings at a push of a button would be greatly destructive to society though or would it be just like any other destructive drug? I realize this is going into some strange sci-fi hypotheticals so maybe it's better you don't answer.

Honestly I'm not sure. However, I will say a lot of the "destructive" properties of illegal drugs are caused by their illegality and stigma to begin with but I really don't want to start a derail about that and I'm definitely not saying they would be harmless otherwise. I guess it's a complicated situation really. As with drugs, the orgasm button's effects would depend a lot on the person too. For instance, a lot of the worst addicts are the ones who use mostly for self medication for depression, anxiety or whatever.

Turtlicious
Sep 17, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
So it's becoming increasingly apparent I don't know jack poo poo about college. Where do I put a thread where I ask goons to help me figure out college, where to go online, how to pay for it and basically hold my hand like I was an overgrown man child still sujkcling at the teat?

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

razz posted:

I was reading some Amazon reviews and a couple people in rural areas (so, people that live further from the signal source) said that a router with an external antenna worked better than one with an internal antenna. Do you think there is any truth to that?

If so great because the clunky routers with the giant antennas are like half the price of the "cool" looking ones with internal antennas.

Eh being in a rural area won't change how good the signal the router puts out will be. But having external antennas is useful, because if you're having trouble getting a good signal you can usually rotate and otherwise re-aim them to try to fix it.

tuyop
Sep 15, 2006

Every second that we're not growing BASIL is a second wasted

Fun Shoe

Turtlicious posted:

So it's becoming increasingly apparent I don't know jack poo poo about college. Where do I put a thread where I ask goons to help me figure out college, where to go online, how to pay for it and basically hold my hand like I was an overgrown man child still sujkcling at the teat?

Check out BFC, the finance sub forum under ask/tell.

Just go call a college and set up a meeting and ask all your questions there. They do this all the time, man. :)

Ham Equity
Apr 16, 2013

The first thing we do, let's kill all the cars.
Grimey Drawer

tuyop posted:

Check out BFC, the finance sub forum under ask/tell.

Just go call a college and set up a meeting and ask all your questions there. They do this all the time, man. :)
Explain your whole situation with the foster care thing.

California has a really nice community college system, too. You can probably get in touch with a community college up in Davis that has transfer programs to UC Davis and CSU Sacramento. Also, Davis is cheaper to live in than LA.

hoobajoo
Jun 2, 2004

Thanatosian posted:

Explain your whole situation with the foster care thing.

California has a really nice community college system, too. You can probably get in touch with a community college up in Davis that has transfer programs to UC Davis and CSU Sacramento. Also, Davis is cheaper to live in than LA.

I grew up in Davis, there's a branch of the Sacramento Community College there, and they'll sometimes offer courses at UCD at community college prices. It's a good place to be, especially for learning, and the bus network makes it really easy to get around in the town.

Crankit
Feb 7, 2011

HE WATCHES

Gothmog1065 posted:

Is there a term or a name for that game where you whisper something into someone's ear (a phrase or a word) and pass it down the line and see how badly it's mangled at the end?

That's chinese whispers, though I think it also had another -whispers name.

Ah, the second thing I was thinking of was a Chinese fire drill which has an interesting history.

Crankit fucked around with this message at 13:05 on Mar 6, 2014

Mr. Squishy
Mar 22, 2010

A country where you can always get richer.
Americans call it Telephone, because they are not a racist country.

Wifi Toilet
Oct 1, 2004

Toilet Rascal

Mr. Squishy posted:

Americans call it Telephone, because they are not a racist country.

Good one!

Nighthand
Nov 4, 2009

what horror the gas

tuyop posted:

Check out BFC, the finance sub forum under ask/tell.

Just go call a college and set up a meeting and ask all your questions there. They do this all the time, man. :)

There's also the oft-overlooked Science, Academics and Languages subforum.

Sephiroth_IRA
Mar 31, 2010
I really enjoyed community college. If you're poor (or a early twenties, no income goon living with his parents like I used to be) the FAFSA (last I checked) will pretty much cover most to all of your expenses and then some. So that's two years of free to heavily subsidized college if you get good grades. Not to mention you can buy your textbooks with your FAFSA money and then sell them on craigslist at the end of the year.

Just don't be like that goon that somehow used financial aid to get a really expensive gaming computer. That hurts everyone.

razz posted:

I was reading some Amazon reviews and a couple people in rural areas (so, people that live further from the signal source) said that a router with an external antenna worked better than one with an internal antenna. Do you think there is any truth to that?

If so great because the clunky routers with the giant antennas are like half the price of the "cool" looking ones with internal antennas.

Correct me if I'm wrong goons but personally I've always preferred the external antennas because I always assumed simply getting a larger/better (whichever) antenna would expand the range, which I've never needed to do. My guess is some settings in the routers firmware (I think I'm using DDWRT at home) might have to be changed as well.

I've also heard about people using can radios and old satellite dishes to make their routers/wireless NICs have very narrow but long range.

Sephiroth_IRA fucked around with this message at 17:57 on Mar 6, 2014

Turtlicious
Sep 17, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
What's your favorite hangover cure?

Fork of Unknown Origins
Oct 21, 2005
Gotta Herd On?
Backstory: A friend of my wife is a foster mother, who is currently adopting one of the kids she fosters. The mother lost all parental rights last year. As far as anyone knows the birth mother has no idea who the foster mother is, and no one except the county social services should know both names. This is in California.

Story: Two days ago the foster mother began receiving phone calls from 1-800 numbers and a 1-877 number. They were asking for the birth mother by name (ie: 'I need to speak to Jane Doe' where Jane Doe is the birth mother.) She told them that that wasn't her, and they demanded to know her name. She refused to give it (a little freaked out understandably) and asked them who they were. They refused to say who they were until she gave her name so she hung up. She said it sounded like a collections agency, but is freaked out that it could be someone the birth mother knows trying to get information on where the kid is.

Is it legal for them to refuse to identify themselves before you identify? Is there any way she can make them stop without giving her name? Could someone actually be spoofing 800 and 877 numbers?

Fork of Unknown Origins
Oct 21, 2005
Gotta Herd On?

Turtlicious posted:

What's your favorite hangover cure?

Gatorade and going for a long walk always helps me, and I always crave some sort of greasy food although I don't know if eating it actually helps. The best hangover avoidance (besides drinking less) is to drink a lot of water while drinking. I usually take a vitamin B pill too but I think it just turns my pee neon.

dayman
Mar 12, 2009

Is it a yes, or...

Turtlicious posted:

What's your favorite hangover cure?

Yeah, lot's of water while drinking. If you somehow forgot that, lot's of water the next day. Eggs or other protein in the morning and, though it might be the last thing you want to do, exercise. Go for a run, ride a bike, hell just do jumping jacks for 20 min. You'd be amazed at the difference it makes pre/post.

Flash Gordon Ramsay
Sep 28, 2004

Grimey Drawer
Yeah I keep water next to the bed if I've been drinking. If I wake up in the night, I chug a glass of water. More than anything else I've tried, staying hydrated while drinking and after has been the key to not getting hungover.

365 Nog Hogger
Jan 19, 2008

by Shine

Turtlicious posted:

What's your favorite hangover cure?

Drinking a liter of water before bed.

Turtlicious
Sep 17, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
So eggs, fried porkchops, some gatorade and a walk?

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hoobajoo
Jun 2, 2004

Turtlicious posted:

What's your favorite hangover cure?

Cocktail bitters and soda.

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