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qbert posted:Hmm, I wonder if there are any instant speed Agoraphobia effects in Standard right now. I want to troll my opponent using Xenagod on his Mutavault. The other case in which this works is if you have a way of being alive at negative life and a Death's Shadow in play. There was a cheesy Modern combo deck built around this, it was dumb as heck.
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qbert posted:Hmm, I wonder if there are any instant speed Agoraphobia effects in Standard right now. I want to troll my opponent using Xenagod on his Mutavault. Downsize is in RTR along with Beastmaster, but nobody remembers it.
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Mar 6, 2014 23:12
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Bugsy posted:Downsize is in RTR along with Beastmaster, but nobody remembers it. I just wish people would remember Wild Beastmaster so the 12 I bought for a quarter each on a whim could pay off.
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Mar 6, 2014 23:15
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Entropic posted:You need to have the "what happens if you lose these cards" conversation before, not after, they borrow them. I have and I've spit plenty of fire and brimstone but really whats a jobless college kid going to do if they lose 1000 dollars in cardboard? I just hope threats are enough to keep them cautious.
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Mar 6, 2014 23:58
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Entropic posted:
Much like in real life, always bet on land.
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Zorak posted:So, they've announced what Clash Packs are: Core set product meant to introduce new players AND teach them basic deckbuilding techniques? Sounds pretty sweet. edit: holy crap I should refresh the thread next time. Peepers fucked around with this message at 00:14 on Mar 7, 2014 |
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Mar 7, 2014 00:11
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GoutPatrol posted:Much like in real life, always bet on land. You ain't no kinda man if you ain't got land
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I would just like to point out that, on that list of DCI suspensions posted a few pages back, there is a person named 'Clearly Excellent.' He or she has a lifetime ban. DCI Suspension List e:  e2: oh Kevin Brumley 
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Mar 7, 2014 02:25
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Suspension lists are boring now that they no longer list the reason.
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Entropic posted:Suspension lists are boring now that they no longer list the reason. I recall this was the greatest reason ever listed. Some Smart rear end Judge posted:(ノ ゜Д゜)ノ ︵ ┻━┻ DCI has no sense of humor these days. Ciprian Maricon fucked around with this message at 03:02 on Mar 7, 2014 |
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Mar 7, 2014 02:52
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I just want Mox Opal to get back closer to $40 than $50 so I can finish this Modern Goblins list before some amazing hate card gets printed against it, is that too much to ask? When they were $40 I thought "that's a lot of money for a card that only sees play in Affinity, it has to go down right?"  Entropic posted:I miss decks that actually played Angel of Serenity. I'm so tired of Aetherling as the go-to Control finisher at this point. In my last round at Gameday I played a BWG list that was running Angel of Serenity. But it was following up Loxodon Smiters, Blood Barons, and Desecration Demons so it wasn't quite the star you're wanting it to be.
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SO I'm judging two GPs this month: Richmond and Cincinnati. By the time I'm done at Richmond, Cincinnati is going to look like a PTQ. Have we gotten any attendance news since 4000? Also, any goons bringing EDH decks?
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C-Euro posted:I just want Mox Opal to get back closer to $40 than $50 so I can finish this Modern Goblins list before some amazing hate card gets printed against it, is that too much to ask? When they were $40 I thought "that's a lot of money for a card that only sees play in Affinity, it has to go down right?" That's a pretty loving scary curve, actually. Smiter-->Desecration-->Baron-->???-->Serenity What was his 6 drop? Elspeth? Honestly, I would go straight for a mono-W devotion deck if W had any decent card draw options like U. I have an Ephara devotion deck built that uses a W creature core, but it is still only tier 2 because you can't splash that much blue into a deck with 15+ double W spells.
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Brownhat posted:SO I'm judging two GPs this month: Richmond and Cincinnati. By the time I'm done at Richmond, Cincinnati is going to look like a PTQ. Have we gotten any attendance news since 4000? Also, any goons bringing EDH decks? I am not just to limit things I am bringing, I am paranoid about theft, perhaps overly so but still. I am going to have the 2 decks I'm playing, and my draft sleeves and lands.
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AlternateNu posted:That's a pretty loving scary curve, actually. Smiter-->Desecration-->Baron-->???-->Serenity VV Pretty sure she had more duals than basics in play at a couple points. C-Euro fucked around with this message at 05:15 on Mar 7, 2014 |
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C-Euro posted:I just want Mox Opal to get back closer to $40 than $50 so I can finish this Modern Goblins list before some amazing hate card gets printed against it, is that too much to ask? When they were $40 I thought "that's a lot of money for a card that only sees play in Affinity, it has to go down right?" What kind of crazy mana base supports that? GW into BB into a BW into triple-W. Godspeed to that dude.
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qbert posted:What kind of crazy mana base supports that? GW into BB into a BW into triple-W. Godspeed to that dude. No decklist, but the first match here is junk reanimator which sounds a lot like what C-euro is describing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pEe5kCzuPk
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Yesssss I just got to life the dream in a paper draft by playing 5-color green with motherfucking Chromanticore, and the deck was actually really good. I went 4-0 with the following: 2x Voyaging Satyr Leafcrown Dryad Nessian Courser 2x Nyxborn Wolf Setessan Oathsworn Agent of Horizons Polis Crusher Horizon Chimera Nylea's Emissary Thassa's Emissary Nessian Demolok Nessian Asp Prognostic Sphinx CHROMANTICORE Traveler's Amulet Ordeal of Nylea 2x Nylea's Presence Karametra's Favor Mortal's Resolve Savage Surge Mortal's Ardor 10 Forest 4 Island 1 Swamp 1 Plains 1 Mountain This deck took an excellent ramp shell and fitted it out with enough cantrip manafixing to cast Chromanticore. I won multiple games off of huge lifelinking vigilant creatures. Nice comboes included Setessan Oathsworn + Ordeal of Nylea for immediate lands, Chromanticore + Thassa's Emissary for a nice card draw to go with your 14 point lifeswing, and Horizon Chimera + cantrip manafixing for that little bit of extra lifegain. Also nice was Voyaging Satyr + Nylea's Presence to get more colors. Nonboes included Polis Crusher + Bestow, but he's so good it doesn't really matter. The only downsides to the deck were a complete lack of creature removal and lack of way to get back Chromanticore from the graveyard. Other than that the deck was awesome. I also am kind of embarrassed to mention that in all the games in which I played Prognostic Sphinx (at least 4 or 5) I forgot to scry with it every single time. I realized this after the last round when I thought to myself "Prognostic Sphinx was really good but I remember it being much better when opponents have played it against me in the past" and then remembered the Scry ability. This is what I get for assuming I know what all the cards do. Lets Pickle fucked around with this message at 08:16 on Mar 7, 2014 |
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Yeaaaah, I am so totally jealous. Like, no lie. That is an amazing draft deck.
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I was playing Junk Reanimator for a bit. Grisly Salvage and Commune to fill the bin and find lands/your Whip, deathrite (I had multiple opponents go 'wait, that guy's useable in standard?) to fix and accelerate, then Whip and Obzedat's Aid to reanimate an Angel or Ashen Rider t4-5 is pretty backbreaking. The deck's definitely missing something (probably a third reanimation effect that's better than Journey), but it's relatively consistent and pretty fun, and you can even get all toolboxy if you add Jarad's Orders.
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a dozen swans posted:I was playing Junk Reanimator for a bit. Grisly Salvage and Commune to fill the bin and find lands/your Whip, deathrite (I had multiple opponents go 'wait, that guy's useable in standard?) to fix and accelerate, then Whip and Obzedat's Aid to reanimate an Angel or Ashen Rider t4-5 is pretty backbreaking. The deck's definitely missing something (probably a third reanimation effect that's better than Journey), but it's relatively consistent and pretty fun, and you can even get all toolboxy if you add Jarad's Orders. I've been playing with a build with Immortal Servitude, but it's restrictive in that you want the whole deck to be 2 or 3 drops for maximum value.
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BaronVonVaderham posted:I've been playing with a build with Immortal Servitude, but it's restrictive in that you want the whole deck to be 2 or 3 drops for maximum value. I use this trick in one of my decks and I love it. It's almost always a game changer. However, it really does only work well with little guys that all cost the same.
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a dozen swans posted:I was playing Junk Reanimator for a bit. Grisly Salvage and Commune to fill the bin and find lands/your Whip, deathrite (I had multiple opponents go 'wait, that guy's useable in standard?) to fix and accelerate, then Whip and Obzedat's Aid to reanimate an Angel or Ashen Rider t4-5 is pretty backbreaking. The deck's definitely missing something (probably a third reanimation effect that's better than Journey), but it's relatively consistent and pretty fun, and you can even get all toolboxy if you add Jarad's Orders. I'm playing the BG graveyard deck that's just on the fringes of being playable and I don't think it or reanimator are going to be a thing until JiN comes out. The BG God, BW God, and BG Scryland alone will mean big things for both decks. Sure we don't know what the enemy-colored Gods will do yet, but being able to fit it in to these decks means a LOT.
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I just got a foil Garruk out of a booster.  I traded it for a playset of Precinct Captains, three Bidents (including two promos), a Vastwood Hydra and a foil Legion's Initiative. Y/N on getting screwed? I am playing Selesnya aggro so the Hydra and the Captains are actually really good for me.
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ungulateman posted:I just got a foil Garruk out of a booster. Foil Garruk is worth $36 right now- precinct captains are $1-2 each, bidents around the same, legions initiative foil is ~$8, hydra is less than a buck.
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a dozen swans posted:I was playing Junk Reanimator for a bit. Grisly Salvage and Commune to fill the bin and find lands/your Whip, deathrite (I had multiple opponents go 'wait, that guy's useable in standard?) to fix and accelerate, then Whip and Obzedat's Aid to reanimate an Angel or Ashen Rider t4-5 is pretty backbreaking. The deck's definitely missing something (probably a third reanimation effect that's better than Journey), but it's relatively consistent and pretty fun, and you can even get all toolboxy if you add Jarad's Orders. Splashing red opens up interactions with bloodrush creatures and makes flesh//blood yet another potential way to do lethal damage. Between Jarad's fling ability and flesh//blood you've got a ton of ways of spiking someone down when they felt safe. Murder King becomes another thing to do some fun interactions. Splashing blue opens up possibly janky interactions like Chronic Flooding which would self mill far more than any 1 grisly salvage, at the cost of being down 1 card instead of par with cards. Breaking//Entering becomes an extremely efficient self mill at the cost of being down a card. Consuming Abberration is incredibly lethal but probably isn't where the deck wants to be. Dimir Charm would do some serious work with all three modes. There's several 4 CMC black creatures that if they were cheaper with the same rules text they would be good graveyard enablers and decent bodies for attacking. Maybe in JOU we'll get cheaper graveyard creatures. Korak fucked around with this message at 17:53 on Mar 7, 2014 |
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ungulateman posted:I just got a foil Garruk out of a booster. Value-wise, you got completely hosed. Cards you want to play with-wise, you got things you wanted for a thing you didn't want. Depends on how you want to look at it.
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One of the Precinct Captains was a foil, but still...the guy told me they were $5. If I see him again I'm going to give him a piece of my mind, though he was friendly enough that I'm not going to be a jerk about it.
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ungulateman posted:One of the Precinct Captains was a foil, but still...the guy told me they were $5. If I see him again I'm going to give him a piece of my mind, though he was friendly enough that I'm not going to be a jerk about it. Do you own a smartphone?
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ScarletBrother posted:Value-wise, you got completely hosed. Cards you want to play with-wise, you got things you wanted for a thing you didn't want. Depends on how you want to look at it. I remember when I played magic with other people for the first time, RTR prerelease event. Some douchenozzle gave me Detention Sphere, Righteous Authority and Supreme Verdict for at-the-time very valuable Deathrite Shaman, the process was literally "you want this, this, and this, I'll take that."
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Count Bleck posted:I remember when I played magic with other people for the first time, RTR prerelease event. I traded my Divine vs Demonic, demonic tutor for a 50p rare because i thought it was useless uncommon.
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ungulateman posted:One of the Precinct Captains was a foil, but still...the guy told me they were $5. If I see him again I'm going to give him a piece of my mind, though he was friendly enough that I'm not going to be a jerk about it. Sorry to hear someone ripped you off; most of us aren't terrible people. Don't ever take their word for it. Either look it up on your phone if you have one, or have them look it up and mske sure they're showing you the right prices, or if you're at a store, ask the employees if it's even. I'm pretty sure that was a really bad trade even for a non-shiny Garruk.
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ScarletBrother posted:Do you own a smartphone? My phone is insufficiently smart and I had no credit at the time; it didn't occur to me that he would be lying through his teeth about the value of a staple rare. /lifestory
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ungulateman posted:My phone is insufficiently smart and I had no credit at the time; it didn't occur to me that he would be lying through his teeth about the value of a staple rare. /lifestory No one honest is going to mind if you check trade values before agreeing on something. Just ask someone independent to look it up and show it to you.
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Did the goons playing Murdergoats ever post a primer on all the interactions the deck can go through?
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Korak posted:Did the goons playing Murdergoats ever post a primer on all the interactions the deck can go through? Not a complete list, though bhsman has a couple on his decklist on tappedout.
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ScarletBrother posted:No one honest is going to mind if you check trade values before agreeing on something. Just ask someone independent to look it up and show it to you. The guy making the trade probably had a smartphone himself, I'll ask them to look it up if I don't have my phone handy. It's kinda like a lovely rite of passage for new players to be taken advantage of by some vulture douchebag. Sucks it happened but I doubt he'll let it happen again now.
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Its easy to think you remember a price because you saw it 5 days ago and not bother looking it up. You shouldn't assume someone is trying to screw you over but just take the time to look things up on your phone.
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Korak posted:Did the goons playing Murdergoats ever post a primer on all the interactions the deck can go through? I've been giving it a whirl on Cockatrice to see how it plays out. Last night I played against Azorious Control and Jund Monsters, and would like to see a primer on what to sideboard.
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