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B. To those saying we have a week or so, it's remember that "a week" is based on Uriah's estimation which is further based on his knowledge of previous minotaur hordes. Previous minotaur hordes did not have a not-orc enforcing discipline on the minotaurs. These folks might move faster than they historically did. Or not. It's just worth remembering that there's an added unknown variable that could gently caress up estimations.
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UppaTree posted:How would we attempt to set the food on fire? Do we have torches? Oil? Can we make flaming arrows that aren't a joke? You do not have torches or oil. Flaming arrows, even if you could get in range, are not going to be enough to set them up. You could try to sneak into the camp and throwing some logs from the cooking fires into the food sleds. If you get enough aflame perhaps they might spread to the rest? WhiteOutMouse posted:Do we have the poison or something from Indor we can shoot with an arrow into the food? Diogines posted:D. A small pot. No glow. "A powerful poison, made from a giant scorpion and many other deadly things. Powerful enough to slay a mighty beast. It will render much of the flesh useless for us but could save you." Rahul posted:A couple of questions : Rahul posted:If so, we should be able to deduce their current heading. Are they currently heading towards Zepath, or one of the other cities, or some other direction? Rahul posted:Edit: apparently this army is approximately 1.5 times the size of the previous army. Do we have an estimate of their actual numbers? I can't remember if we had a headcount of the previous army or not. Zepath's population is measured in thousands, not tens of thousands. Imperialist Dog posted:Diog If we can detect the army's trail, is it coming from Barkof's last known whereabouts? Diogines fucked around with this message at 14:32 on Mar 7, 2014 |
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F+G Under Aaron's training, Enkidel learned how to move stealthily. These minotaurs are not organized enough to lay siege on Zepath without the guidance of these taller armored figures. If Enkidel waits until nightfall to sneak into camp and slit the throats of these leading figures, then the invasion won't ever happen.
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Maybe we should start training a few of our mighty bros to be stealthy as well. Could be useful in various situations.
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Diogines posted:
gently caress it? Maybe we shoot our super blue powder into their food. Make sure this fight happens soon so we can get it over with! (probably shouldn't, but there are people who vote to murder and eat our wife and loved ones on a regular basis)
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We should head back to report to Tudiya, the quicker we can prepare the easier the fight will be.
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Sogol posted:A. Catch up with our Balls and make sure they get back in good shape. Who knows how fast this horde is actually going to move given unholy incentive. Let's make sure they don't get caught. This something different than a "casual" monster horde given the command structure, heart eating and altar. High alert! This + S. Prayer only, no nutty shouting.
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I think we could all stand to remember that we always have the option of unleashing a tremendous, heaven-shaking fart. I'm sure unleashing our long pent-up digestive systems will have an effect.
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Question 1: Is the armored orc much larger than the not armored orcs? Question 2: Can you read any symbols or writing on the orcs armor? Does it look like something a man would make? Can you tell if the armor has some sort of magic presence distinct from the orc? Basically, describe the armor in more detail? Scale mail? Chain? Covers the whole body? Any openings? Question 3: Do the orcs have weapons?
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Dio, can we send images to Snarls? Or couldn't we just keep informing Snarls and let Ish or Tudiya read Snarls thoughts that we're sending? Basically if we can keep info flowing and up to date I'd say we use our stealthy survival skills to follow them, until we get word to head home.
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Deadly Ham Sandwich posted:Question 1: Is the armored orc much larger than the not armored orcs? The two unarmored (orcs?) each have a spear in hand. The armored (orc?) has a greatsword made of silver on it's back. Zepathan armor is made out of pieces of metal fit together by straps, with the largest being a breastplate and a back plate, hardened or studded leather is also used. Many areas are exposed, traditionally. For example, much of the arm and the leg has little protection. The (orc?) almost looks looks like a giant beetle, mostly silver armor covers it's whole body, even its fingers are covered by tiny overlapping bits of metal. If not for the two other (orcs?) of similar size next to it, you probably WOULD have mistaken it for some kind of giant silver bug. Silver is soft and would make terrible armor, but it sure is shiny in the light of the horde's many fires. I have avoided pictures of Zepathan armor. The following are close but NOT EXACT images of what Zepathan armor is like. I will get a picture for your armor, tonight. The common men of Zepath might own family armor like this:   Wealthier men own armor with more metal, which covers more of the body, such as your armor:   Many of your Balls have since gotten this kind of armor though the range of quality varies greatly and many of the poorer Balls still have the other sort. The spear you use is more accurately represented in the second picture. When you first met Tudiya and the Mighty Men, they wore lighter armor due to the fact they were traveling, as well as to cope with the heat. Toughy posted:Dio, can we send images to Snarls? Or couldn't we just keep informing Snarls and let Ish or Tudiya read Snarls thoughts that we're sending? Basically if we can keep info flowing and up to date I'd say we use our stealthy survival skills to follow them, until we get word to head home. Ishamal told you he warded Snarls mind after the incident at Bareen's temple, could any in Zepath read it besides Ishamal? Diogines fucked around with this message at 21:19 on Mar 7, 2014 |
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...um. Diog, remind me - what's the most common Zepathan metal in arms and armor? Bronze? Do we know what steel is? Or iron? How do we know that the orc is wearing actual, precious metal silver? Two possibilities: Tudiya is about to learn the meaning of "technological advantage," or silver has some kind of magical anti-Mighty-Man effect. Edit: Or both. Tomn fucked around with this message at 21:12 on Mar 7, 2014 |
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Tomn posted:...um. Tomn posted:Do we know what steel is? Or iron? Tomn posted:How do we know that the orc is wearing actual, precious metal silver? Diogines fucked around with this message at 21:20 on Mar 7, 2014 |
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Orcs have steel and plate armor, everybody panic. Diog, what are the most common/important metals in Zepathan society?
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I wonder if that orc in all that shiny awesome silver metal knows any former Mighty Men of Zepath who may or may not have been a Master Smith in their spare time... Barkof
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I don't now if it is steel, but everything about two priests and beetle armor controlling an otherwise uncontrollable horde screams eldritch powers beyond the kin of mere mortals. Whatever they are they are more powerful than a giant cow dude.
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Tomn posted:Diog, what are the most common/important metals in Zepathan society? Copper. Bronze is not exactly some sort of exotic secret, Labaras taught his sons to make it when he taught them copper and gold smithing as well. The region is poor in tin, an ingredient to make bronze, much of the tin used locally is imported. It is common enough to be used for many household implements in richer homes but expensive enough that bronze armor is costly and mostly reserved for the richer classes.
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 Tomn posted:Orcs have steel and plate armor, everybody panic. Do our Balls have Indor's special blue powder with them? How long will it take for them to reach Zepath at their current rate? 
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They have the powder, which Indor is probably not going to replace, is with your men. You were told that when mixed with water it "will let a man walk and fight for two days without any harm to them." You have enough for all of your men to have one dose. Diogines fucked around with this message at 21:42 on Mar 7, 2014 |
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We should head back to the men, and stick together. We'll be able to get a realistic bead on how fast the monsters behind us are moving by then, and can blue powder it up then if we need to.
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Diogines posted:The two unarmored (orcs?) each have a spear in hand. The armored (orc?) has a greatsword made of silver on it's back. Who else did we know that favored a greatsword? So, we have an (orc?) in armor that would take a master smith to create, wielding a sword that would take a master smith to create, who is practicing blood sacrifice and demon worship, leading an attack on Zepath.... I think this is likely Master Smith, ToM demon worshipping, greatsword favoring, grudge against Tudiya carrying, good old Barkof leading the charge. Edit: Shoot, but he took his helmet off to eat that heart.... Diog, when he took the helmet off, could we tell for sure if it was non-human? Task Manager fucked around with this message at 21:56 on Mar 7, 2014 |
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The (orc?) removed it's helmet when it bit into the heart. It's head is similar to the other two (orcs?). Unless Barkof had some reconstructive surgery, the armored figure is not Barkof.
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Diog, are there any rare, but largely pointless metals that we're aware of?Task Manager posted:I think this is likely Master Smith, ToM demon worshipping, greatsword favoring, grudge against Tudiya carrying, good old Barkof leading the charge. Going straight from the Bronze Age, clear through the Iron Age, and somewhere into the late Medieval is enough of a feat that if Barkof managed to smith all that out by himself, we should probably switch sides.
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Tomn posted:Going straight from the Bronze Age, clear through the Iron Age, and somewhere into the late Medieval is enough of a feat that if Barkof managed to smith all that out by himself, we should probably switch sides. Well, he is a Mighty Smith - if he was given the right material from his demon pals, a year to mess around with it, he could probably craft it together, right? He's got the talent for it, he just never had the materials. The downside is you have to worship demons to get it and that's no fun (except Asherah).
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FoxTerrier posted:We should head back to the men, and stick together. We'll be able to get a realistic bead on how fast the monsters behind us are moving by then, and can blue powder it up then if we need to. Yeah, agreed.
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Diogines posted:The (orc?) removed it's helmet when it bit into the heart. It's head is similar to the other two (orcs?). Unless Barkof had some reconstructive surgery, the armored figure is not Barkof. What did the faces look like? Corrupted versions of humans? Twisted perhaps?
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A. We watched these guys sacrifice to their deities. These horrible non-human entities are clearly inferior to human beings, but they've shown a sign of intelligence. They may be a threat, but I'm thinking we should look at them like a hostile nation rather than just beasts. And that's something the king should know about and decide on. I mean, it's almost like our respective peoples are representing different deities. And these deities were at war or, like, clashing with each other. And each heavenly being had representatives to fight for them. Like, mighty guys of some sort. And these mighty guys might totally clash with each other too. Or something.
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Task Manager posted:Well, he is a Mighty Smith - if he was given the right material from his demon pals, a year to mess around with it, he could probably craft it together, right? He's got the talent for it, he just never had the materials. A full suit of plate armor is pretty intricate (and ridiculously expensive) stuff, and forging steel isn't exactly a picnic. It's not really a matter of talent, it's a matter of knowledge and compressing hundreds of years of metallurgy and armorsmithing lore into a fairly short time. Going from "What is this strange metal?" to "Now I am a paladin!" is going to take way more than a year, even for a Mighty Man. Unless, of course, the demons gave him blueprints and very detailed instructions, though at that point you start to wonder why they need to bother with Barkof at all when they have their own intelligent, empowered beings to order around. Though, come to think of it... Diog, what is the level of craftsmanship on the silver armor? Can we see how well-made it is? Is it smooth and well-polished, etc?
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Tomn posted:Diog, what is the level of craftsmanship on the silver armor? Can we see how well-made it is? Is it smooth and well-polished, etc? Fer gently caress's sake, man.. It is a kind of armor that looks like silver. It shines in the light of their fires. It's so seamless that we would mistake it for a steel scarab's shell, right down to overlapping articulation on the finger-joints. Compared to all armor we know of, this might as well be  Is it well-crafted power armor? We dunno, we've never seen power armor before, but we can certainly tell that whoever made this stuff has forgotten more about making armor than Zepath's smiths will ever know.
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So I'm going to hypothesize that other cultures, perhaps orcs, might have significantly more advanced tech than humans. We've already seen that El-worshippers dislike innovation, so it wouldn't be surprising if our tech is significantly behind that of non-El worshippers as a consequence.
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Waitaminute.. Deformed but man-shaped thing in heavy, anachronistic armor, eating hearts for power? I'd just like to remind you boys that we never saw why Narod was so worried about removing his helmet in his latter days. How ya been, old friend? How's that One God thing treatin' ya?
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UppaTree posted:Waitaminute.. Sounds more like Koa and his fancy pants armor to me.
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Lanky Coconut Tree posted:What did the faces look like? Corrupted versions of humans? Twisted perhaps? To your eye, all 3 look the same, as previously pictured:  Tomn posted:Diog, what is the level of craftsmanship on the silver armor? Can we see how well-made it is? Is it smooth and well-polished, etc? Tomn posted:Diog, are there any rare, but largely pointless metals that we're aware of? Smithing is not one of them, you know as much of making metal and such arts as any reasonable well upper class resident of Zepath. You know of copper, bronze, zinc, tin, silver, gold, platinum, electrum(*) and that is it. You are vaguely aware there may be some other things involved in metal working but during your life you have shown no interest in such matters and thus your knowledge is limited. The armor is smooth and lacks symbols or ornamentation you would recognize as such. If you did not see the other figures, you would think it a giant beetle of some kind, it is very smooth. (*)A little star since goons may not have heard of it, don't take it to have any special significance. Electrum is a naturally occurring alloy of silver, gold and a little copper. Zepathans don't know what an "alloy" is. They think it is just another base metal. It is not worth as much as pure gold. Diogines fucked around with this message at 23:59 on Mar 7, 2014 |
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I'm really interested to see where this is going. This dude and his fancy armor is probably the most anachronistic thing we've come across. (except sandwiches maybe) I wonder if after Tudiya beats him our smith's can study the strange armor and try to reverse engineer some of it.
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LLSix posted:Sounds more like Koa and his fancy pants armor to me. As a representative of team still-totally-Denziroh, I will immediately begin preparing the wine, shrooms and rock'n'roll orgy in response to this alarming news.
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There Bias Two posted:So I'm going to hypothesize that other cultures, perhaps orcs, might have significantly more advanced tech than humans. We've already seen that El-worshippers dislike innovation, so it wouldn't be surprising if our tech is significantly behind that of non-El worshippers as a consequence. Social organization seems a touch more crude, though - or perhaps the orcs simply believe/know this is the only way to communicate with minotaurs? It's also worrying that these more advanced orcs are acting as apparent "military advisers" to the minotaur horde - it brings up the disturbing possibility of more such advisers running around and possibly rallying up extremely humongous, organized armies. And now I just had a scary thought. We all know that shouting to El caught the attention of the Powers, yes? And we know that these Powers are more than a little worried about us? And we know SOME of those Powers are Melachim...but do we know that all the Powers are Melachim? For that matter, is it possible that some of the Melachim are in fact synonymous with demons? And even if the Powers aren't involved in this at all, who else might have heard us cry out to El? What if this is the specialized kill team sent out for the express purpose of hunting us down, razing Zepath to the ground if need be to preserve the balance of power before we become a walking ICBM?
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