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lamb posted:I joined a BJJ school this week and I've only taken one class so far, but can any of you give a newbie some advice that me any tips as to things I should/shouldn't do in class? Slow down, breathe, no really slow down, constantly remind yourself to breathe.
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If you get frustrated just grab their foot and curl their toes downward with your palm.
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Mar 7, 2014 20:00
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lamb posted:I joined a BJJ school this week and I've only taken one class so far, but can any of you give a newbie some advice that me any tips as to things I should/shouldn't do in class? Seems like everyone focused on ball washing as opposed to etiquette. From my experience, bjj classes are much more informal than the traditional martial arts classes I've taken. I wouldn't worry about any sort of disrespectful gestures especially since you're already aware of it. The most basic advice is prevent injuries to yourself and others (don't spaz, practice moves with control, and be mindful of taps). As a sidenote, whenever you roll let your partner know beforehand that you're new and if you have any existing injuries/ailments (shoulder, knee, etc).
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Mar 7, 2014 20:30
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district of thizz posted:Seems like everyone focused on ball washing as opposed to etiquette. From my experience, bjj classes are much more informal than the traditional martial arts classes I've taken. I wouldn't worry about any sort of disrespectful gestures especially since you're already aware of it. The most basic advice is prevent injuries to yourself and others (don't spaz, practice moves with control, and be mindful of taps). Insistence on formality varies gym to gym. At my first academy the instructors liked to be called by their first names (well, one went by his middle name but you know what I mean). At my current one they insist you call them "professor". origami posted:If you get frustrated just grab their foot and curl their toes downward with your palm. I don't know man, that's pretty dangerous.
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Mar 7, 2014 20:40
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district of thizz posted:Seems like everyone focused on ball washing as opposed to etiquette. From my experience, bjj classes are much more informal than the traditional martial arts classes I've taken. I wouldn't worry about any sort of disrespectful gestures especially since you're already aware of it. The most basic advice is prevent injuries to yourself and others (don't spaz, practice moves with control, and be mindful of taps). I think it's because those of us who have been training for a while can deal with newbies that spaz, that muscle, that cross face too hard, really that do anything so long as they are chill and don't smell. So be chill and don't smell, your BJJ experience will be amazing.
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Mar 7, 2014 21:03
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district of thizz posted:Seems like everyone focused on ball washing as opposed to etiquette.
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Mar 7, 2014 21:12
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ch3cooh posted:I think it's because those of us who have been training for a while can deal with newbies that spaz, that muscle, that cross face too hard, really that do anything so long as they are chill and don't smell. Sorry, dumb question: what does spaz mean?
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Mar 7, 2014 21:30
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lamb posted:Sorry, dumb question: what does spaz mean? Don't freak out and treat training like an actual competition. You don't have training rounds on your professional record because you're not really fighting. This is a problem with mostly younger folks who have an underdeveloped sense of context and proportion.
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Mar 7, 2014 21:32
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lamb posted:Sorry, dumb question: what does spaz mean? Spastic. Clumsily overexcited and out of control.
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Mar 7, 2014 21:33
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Inexperienced grapplers often panic and go real hard and fast and uncontrolled when put in compromising positions, resulting in injuries to themselves and their grappling partners. Usually if you're rolling with someone who has been doing it a while they'll be able to prevent you from doing anything dumb. Also, for a literal answer about the use of the vernacular term "spaz," http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=spaz
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Mar 7, 2014 21:34
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1st AD posted:Inexperienced grapplers often panic and go real hard and fast and uncontrolled when put in compromising positions, resulting in injuries to themselves and their grappling partners. Usually if you're rolling with someone who has been doing it a while they'll be able to prevent you from doing anything dumb. That's more the offensive, British English use.
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Mar 7, 2014 21:35
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Mechafunkzilla posted:That's more the offensive, British English use. This use is common in playgrounds across America too. And I would downright amazed to find that this is some big coincidence and the grappling usage arose separately in some unrelated way. Incidentally it is super hosed up and juvenile that this is standard grappling lingo, and if anyone knows a good substitute term I would love to hear it. Unfortunately I don't know one and injury prevention is important enough that you really do occasionally need a pithy term for this phenomenon. McNerd fucked around with this message at 21:48 on Mar 7, 2014 |
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Mar 7, 2014 21:43
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1st AD posted:Inexperienced grapplers often panic and go real hard and fast and uncontrolled when put in compromising positions, resulting in injuries to themselves and their grappling partners. Usually if you're rolling with someone who has been doing it a while they'll be able to prevent you from doing anything dumb. Thanks. I actually had the opposite problem, I was apparently being too timid because I was afraid of hurting my partner. I also have no illusions that I'm going to be a female Carlos Gracie, so I should be ok in that respect.
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Mar 7, 2014 21:49
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lamb posted:Sorry, dumb question: what does spaz mean? The opposite of chill. Be cool. Be like Fonzie.
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Mar 7, 2014 21:49
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McNerd posted:This use is common in playgrounds across America too. And I would downright amazed to find that this is some big coincidence and the grappling usage arose separately in some unrelated way. It really is different and not particularly offensive in the US. As far as I can tell in the UK it somehow morphed to mean "retarded" or "stupid", with an even worse connotation that people with cerebral palsy are dim-witted, and has basically nothing to do with someone being clumsy and excitable.
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Mar 7, 2014 21:52
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McNerd posted:This use is common in playgrounds across America too. And I would downright amazed to find that this is some big coincidence and the grappling usage arose separately in some unrelated way. panic, flail, etc.
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Mar 7, 2014 21:54
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Mechafunkzilla posted:It really is different and not particularly offensive in the US. As far as I can tell in the UK it somehow morphed to mean "retarded" or "stupid", with an even worse connotation that people with cerebral palsy are dim-witted, and has basically nothing to do with someone being clumsy and excitable. my friend has a stutter and everyone called him a spaz. Its kind of super of offensive.
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spaz, spazoid, spastic, etc. were all super common insults on ye old playground and just because you aren't offended doesn't mean it isn't offensive
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Mar 7, 2014 21:56
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Don't behave as if you are suffering muscle spasms and therefore unable to control the motions of your limbs. Better? Good lets get back to talking grappling. As an aside I hate when my calf spasms and cramps up bad mid roll. Trying to work the cramp out while maintaining guard is a lot harder than it sounds.
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Mar 7, 2014 22:05
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david carmichael posted:my friend has a stutter and everyone called him a spaz. Its kind of super of offensive. It's closer to spastic like a colon than the thing your tender Canadar heart is mad about.
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Mar 7, 2014 22:07
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It's mean and don't do it, because calling someone uncoordinated is mean, but (at least in the US, not sure about Canada) it doesn't literally mean "retarded" the way it does in the UK, where the word itself is a slur. Making fun of someone with an actual disability is always horrible and offensive, but it doesn't mean the words themselves are slurs. Anyway, it's not a word I use and this isn't a particularly productive conversation. Don't hurt your training partners by sparring out of control, everyone.
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ch3cooh posted:I don't know what other thread to put this in so I'll put it here. Billy Robinson is dead. Yeah, I didn't know where else to post that, but a true legend of wrestling is dead. Too bad you hung out with Jake Shannon.
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One more bit of newbie advice, talk to the instructors beforehand if you're really really new, specifically about the warmups. During drilling techniques they will walk you through every little bit of how to do it, but with warmups it's done in a big group so they may just name an exercise and start doing it - it's easier to talk before, you may even get a solo warmup where they walk you through each exercise.
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Dean Lister came to Finland last weekend to participate in the first ever pro bjj submission only tournament "Primates" He faced Finlands top bjj guy Janne-Pekka Pietiläinen in no-gi superfight in the main event of the evening. Here is the match http://youtube.com/watch?v=03GXmca_N_I And here is my post match interview with him http://youtube.com/watch?v=PvPkOx6Y8Rw (Apologiez for the plug) TheCool69 fucked around with this message at 00:11 on Mar 8, 2014 |
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Mar 7, 2014 23:53
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In summation, don't grapple like a subhuman spastic invalid.
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Mar 8, 2014 04:08
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lamb posted:I joined a BJJ school this week and I've only taken one class so far, but can any of you give a newbie some advice that me any tips as to things I should/shouldn't do in class? There's a lot of variance between BJJ schools when it comes to etiquette. For that, it's a good idea to talk to the instructor and ask if there's anything you should or shouldn't do during class. Some places are more formal than others. General good ideas - A) Relax. B) Be clean/odorless. This includes not applying heavy amounts of cologne/perfume. C) Relax. D) Keep your nails trimmed. E) Relax. F) Don't get discouraged. You'll spend a lot of time early on "losing" in randori. Don't focus on "winning". Focus on one move, and doing it successfully. Once you can do that with some regularity, focus on going from that move to something else. Build your game piece by piece. G) Relax.
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TheCool69 posted:Dean Lister came to Finland last weekend to participate in the first ever pro bjj submission only tournament "Primates" This is pretty cool. I like Dean Lister.
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origami posted:If you get frustrated just grab their foot and curl their toes downward with your palm. You talking about a toehold?
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where the gently caress have you been? i've been keeping my ear to the ground for a small joint manipulation specialist taking the grappling world by storm
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If you are a hairy guy please wear a rashguard under your gi. I hate having someone's chest hair ground into me when it's minute 25 of sparring and I'm being crossfaced really hard by a 110kg guy who won't move for a submission even when I flap my arm around for a clear kimura so spend 10 minutes with hair being ground into my face. Edit: that Dean Lister video is okay. I used to cast aspersions on him because my only familiarity was through his lacklustre MMA performances, but his grappling stuff is usually decent to watch. Neurosis fucked around with this message at 10:56 on Mar 8, 2014 |
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Mar 8, 2014 10:52
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I've rediscovered my love of arm drags. They're so much fun and can be hit from almost anywhere
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TheCool69 posted:Dean Lister came to Finland last weekend to participate in the first ever pro bjj submission only tournament "Primates" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lO5erV7EZOI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jnlEUWP_WQ
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Mar 8, 2014 19:59
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Neurosis posted:
He probably trained as much for his mma fights as he does for jiu jitsu tournaments, which is not at all.
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Marching Powder posted:where the gently caress have you been? i've been keeping my ear to the ground for a small joint manipulation specialist taking the grappling world by storm I've been rebuilding my jits game around ude gatame and the armpit armlock. Why don't more people use these?
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Mar 8, 2014 20:48
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CivilDisobedience posted:I've been rebuilding my jits game around ude gatame and the armpit armlock. Why don't more people use these? Because it is really hard to finish and fairly easy to defend or avoid altogether. At least the ude gatame is, I don't know what you mean by armpit armlock.
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Tezcatlipoca posted:Because it is really hard to finish and fairly easy to defend or avoid altogether. At least the ude gatame is, I don't know what you mean by armpit armlock. I don't know if it's what he meant, but I've heard armpit armlock as a translation for waki gatame. Edit: Some guy on the Big 12 stream who didn't know he was micced was just talking mad poo poo about being a football scout and having to go to a high school. "I'd rather watch college tennis." Sprecherscrow fucked around with this message at 21:59 on Mar 8, 2014 |
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Mar 8, 2014 21:41
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widunder posted:My purple belt teammate also won the entire tournament, tapping two black belts on the way. 
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Tezcatlipoca posted:Because it is really hard to finish and fairly easy to defend or avoid altogether. At least the ude gatame is, I don't know what you mean by armpit armlock. I know right? Why are those lovely techniques even in the Judo syllabus at all? And yet somehow I keep finding great opportunities to catch opponents with them... The best is when you can force them to post on the mat and then catch the elbow when they lock it out for you, so you don't have to go to all the trouble of prying their arm off their chest. Lazy grappling?
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CivilDisobedience posted:I know right? Why are those lovely techniques even in the Judo syllabus at all? If that's how you feel about them why are you basing your grappling around them? Doesn't make much sense.
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