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Maremidon posted:I wonder if Araki retcons more or less than Hideo Kojima. Now you got me wondering how well Hideo could direct a Jojo game.
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Maremidon posted:I wonder if Araki retcons more or less than Hideo Kojima. Kojima would have tried to explain away how Annasui changed genders because of nanomachines and Giorno was actually an AI and thus couldn't visit Florida and the entire original universe was actually a simulation and that's why it's different in SBR.
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Mar 7, 2014 22:55
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If Kojima made Jojo, stands would be explained by science even though ripple was paranormal.
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Mar 7, 2014 23:24
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Broseph Brostar posted:If Kojima made Jojo, stands would be explained by science even though ripple was paranormal. Stands were explained by science in Part 5, actually. They're the result of a microorganism/virus/thing that was dormant inside the meteorite the Arrow is made from. Though some stands can awaken out of sheer determination much like Tonio's. It's not super consistent, but in general the Part 5 explanation holds up most of the time.
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Mar 7, 2014 23:48
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Uznare posted:Stands were explained by science in Part 5, actually. They're the result of a microorganism/virus/thing that was dormant inside the meteorite the Arrow is made from. Though some stands can awaken out of sheer determination much like Tonio's. It's not super consistent, but in general the Part 5 explanation holds up most of the time. Didn't the meteorite thing come from Part 6 when that one guard could summon meteors and told Jolyne about it or something?
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Mar 8, 2014 00:54
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Aurora posted:Didn't the meteorite thing come from Part 6 when that one guard could summon meteors and told Jolyne about it or something? Nah, theres an explanation around volume 57(?) or so, where they talk about the meteorite and it's likened to natural selection. The crappy scans don't really explain it that way because they just make poo poo up on the spot.
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Mar 8, 2014 01:03
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The best part of Stone Ocean is how Jolyne's hair buns can't decide which direction to point. It cracks me up to imagine them flopping all over the place like a bloodhound's ears.
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Mar 8, 2014 01:13
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legendsuper posted:Araki forgets stuff all the time.
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Mar 8, 2014 01:32
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Soulcleaver posted:Dio's powers like body freezing or Space Ripper Stingy Eyes, all of which would have definitely come in handy on many occasions. Would they though? In Part 3 at least stands are completely unaffected by anything that's not a stand as well so he wouldn't be able to block stand attacks by freezing, and his eye beams would be subject to stopping time. Then again if he had just laser-eyed Jotaro when he was pretending to be dead Jotaro wouldn't be pretending anymore, so.
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Mar 8, 2014 01:56
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LordMune posted:It could be that David Production is working with a different model, but in general this is not how anime funding works. Scheduling conflicts (or perhaps even something as simple as the the casting director changing their mind about the character) is more likely. Thanks for cleaning that up.
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Mar 8, 2014 01:59
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Soulcleaver posted:My only complaint about part 3 is that we hardly get to see any of Joseph's Ripple or Dio's powers like body freezing or Space Ripper Stingy Eyes, all of which would have definitely come in handy on many occasions. Eh, Joseph's ripple was pretty much useless on anything except vampires so I can understand he didn't use it much. The eyes would have come in handy a lot though.
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Mar 8, 2014 02:03
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Joseph managed to make a pigeon come out of a lady's mouth using the Ripple, and Caesar could control body movements with it. It's not like it was COMPLETELY useless.
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Mar 8, 2014 02:05
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Also, freezing time and throwing knives and unfreezing time is infinitely cooler than eye water lasers.
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Mar 8, 2014 02:05
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Nahxela posted:Also, freezing time and throwing knives and unfreezing time is infinitely cooler than eye water lasers. I'd love to see the list of games and animes that unabashedly copy DIO's stop time and throw knives routine. That more than anything is probably Jojo's most iconic thing.
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Mar 8, 2014 02:13
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Well dudes, let's get some things straight here. First of all Kakyoin's VA is great. Second of all, Vento Aureo is great because of motherfucking Bruno and I won't accept any malingering of the man. And third of it all, Jolyne is the single most badass JoJo and gently caress you if you dare to disagree. Finally Mountain Tim is best Cowboy. These are the noble truths.
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Mar 8, 2014 02:14
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If Joseph had remembered he had ripple then he never would have lost to D'arby 
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Mar 8, 2014 02:21
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I thought it was supposed to be Joseph stopped doing his ripple training, and that's why he looked slightly older than he should have. It would have been cool if he had some clever ripple trick during the drinking game with D'Arby, but Jotaro getting the opportunity to be bad rear end was worth it.Cerebral Bore posted:Well dudes, let's get some things straight here. First of all Kakyoin's VA is great. Second of all, Vento Aureo is great because of motherfucking Bruno and I won't accept any malingering of the man. And third of it all, Jolyne is the single most badass JoJo and gently caress you if you dare to disagree. Finally Mountain Tim is best Cowboy. I dunno, Holhorse was a pretty cool cowpoke. e:f,b
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Mar 8, 2014 02:23
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Well yeah, but it's kind if hard to not notice a glowing hand in a high-stakes alcoholic buoyancy contest.Broseph Brostar posted:I thought it was supposed to be Joseph stopped doing his ripple training, and that's why he looked slightly older than he should have. It would have been cool if he had some clever ripple trick during the drinking game with D'Arby, but Jotaro getting the opportunity to be bad rear end was worth it. I think the reasoning was that, but he actually did only keep using the ripple to keep himself younger. Which is why he looked like he was in his late 40s when he was in his 60s at that point. Captain Baal fucked around with this message at 02:27 on Mar 8, 2014 |
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Mar 8, 2014 02:25
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Cerebral Bore posted:Well dudes, let's get some things straight here. First of all Kakyoin's VA is great. Second of all, Vento Aureo is great because of motherfucking Bruno and I won't accept any malingering of the man. And third of it all, Jolyne is the single most badass JoJo and gently caress you if you dare to disagree. Finally Mountain Tim is best Cowboy. Until there is another cowboy that has horses bow to him these will be irrevocable facts.
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Mar 8, 2014 02:26
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FirstAidKite posted:various bits in part 4 like characters suddenly becoming shorter That's not a retcon. It just symbolizes Koichi's changed perception of them.
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Mar 8, 2014 03:02
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a cartoon duck posted:I'd love to see the list of games and animes that unabashedly copy DIO's stop time and throw knives routine. That more than anything is probably Jojo's most iconic thing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l23YfkUbvnw
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Mar 8, 2014 03:14
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a cartoon duck posted:I'd love to see the list of games and animes that unabashedly copy DIO's stop time and throw knives routine. That more than anything is probably Jojo's most iconic thing.
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Mar 8, 2014 03:14
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a cartoon duck posted:I'd love to see the list of games and animes that unabashedly copy DIO's stop time and throw knives routine. That more than anything is probably Jojo's most iconic thing. Was it ever explained why the knifes can move near a person, but can't penetrate until the time stop ends? Or is it just because it looks cool?
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Mar 8, 2014 03:49
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Once they leave Dio's hand they lose the power to move while time is stopped I guess.
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Mar 8, 2014 03:55
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Silver2195 posted:That's not a retcon. It just symbolizes Koichi's changed perception of them. Speaking of that, Hazamada was creepy as hell and it must have been really weird for everyone else to have him palling around them after Rohan revealed he wanted to rape a classmate and abused animals.
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Mar 8, 2014 03:56
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Didn't he tell Josuke something along those lines, or did he just complain to his stand about it. I remember being a little  over him mentioning he made his stand turn into a girl he likes but couldn't actually do anything with it.
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Mar 8, 2014 06:19
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I've had to flat out stop reading for a bit at the part where Jolyne starts to rip the guard's toenail off. It is one of the most brutal things I've read, and it's too loving much. Jolyne rules.
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Mar 8, 2014 06:46
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I find it really hard to decide whether Joseph or Jolyne is my favorite Jojo because while Joseph is neverendingly fun and great in every part he's in, Jolyne is just so hardcore.
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Mar 8, 2014 07:49
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I really like Jolyne! I wish there were more girl main Joestars though.
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Mar 8, 2014 07:51
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My favorite is Johnny by quite a bit. I'm looking forward to possibly learning more about him in the current arc.
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Mar 8, 2014 07:52
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Uznare posted:Nah, theres an explanation around volume 57(?) or so, where they talk about the meteorite and it's likened to natural selection. The crappy scans don't really explain it that way because they just make poo poo up on the spot.
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Mar 8, 2014 08:05
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Didn't Joseph say something in Part 3 about Stands being an evolution of the Ripple? Or am I making that up?
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Mar 8, 2014 08:21
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So are these PVS ever going to get subbed so I can shwo them to my anime only friends who have no idea what is going on?
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Mar 8, 2014 09:16
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Mighty Dicktron posted:I find it really hard to decide whether Joseph or Jolyne is my favorite Jojo because while Joseph is neverendingly fun and great in every part he's in, Jolyne is just so hardcore. Jolyne is basically the goddamn Terminator if the Terminator were a twentysomething girl. She is a relentless asskicking machine, and if you get on her shitlist you'd better kiss your rear end goodbye.
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Mar 8, 2014 10:37
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RatHat posted:Didn't Joseph say something in Part 3 about Stands being an evolution of the Ripple? Or am I making that up? I don't know about part 3 but in a bonus chapter in Steel Ball Run Araki explains that gaining a stand is the ultimate purpose of the ripple and the spin. I don't remember exactly but wasn't Gyro's stand, Ball Breaker, only created when he used the golden ratio? A ripple master could gain a stand the same way.
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Mar 8, 2014 11:17
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You can gain a Stand by perfecting a skill hard enough. It's like how Tonio got his Stand by practising cooking like a motherfucker. Also Stands and the Ripple are two entirely different things. Otherwise DIO would have disintegrated the first time he used The World.
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Mar 8, 2014 14:49
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Cerebral Bore posted:You can gain a Stand by perfecting a skill hard enough. It's like how Tonio got his Stand by practising cooking like a motherfucker. Underutilising Tonio was Part 4's greatest failing. Hell, underutilizing most stand users that weren't Okuyasu, Koichi and Rohan was. They all showed up to those "pose together to show that poo poo's getting real" shots but then never actually did anything.
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Mar 8, 2014 15:31
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Cerebral Bore posted:You can gain a Stand by perfecting a skill hard enough. It's like how Tonio got his Stand by practising cooking like a motherfucker. I thought Tonio got hit by the arrow as well? Also it isn't that ripple and stands are the same, it's just that there was a chapter of SBR that goes into how stands can manifest in various ways and that utter perfection at a skill such as the ripple or the spin or the abilities provided by the stone mask or the stone mask + aja would lead to a stand. Or you could just get stabbed by the arrow or cut yourself on the meteorite from either universe or traveling through the devil's palm or obtaining a piece of the corpse part. There are a variety of ways to force a stand but Araki said that just practice and obtaining the pinnacle of perfection at a skill can also manifest a stand (which we only really see happen in steel ball run with ball breaker and the final tusk)
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Mar 8, 2014 16:49
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RatHat posted:Didn't Joseph say something in Part 3 about Stands being an evolution of the Ripple? Or am I making that up? Araki forgets stuff all the time.
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FirstAidKite posted:Also it isn't that ripple and stands are the same, it's just that there was a chapter of SBR that goes into how stands can manifest in various ways and that utter perfection at a skill such as the ripple or the spin or the abilities provided by the stone mask or the stone mask + aja would lead to a stand. I guess Tonpetty wasn't all that much of a master after all.
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