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Brigdh posted:Probably never. Its going to be impossible to limit the "blocking" to just the interior of the vehicle. Its also typically illegal for a private citizen to possess a cell jammer in the US. Besides, its probably a bad idea from the stand point of what happens if you get into an accident and need to call 911? If you just want to limit the cell signal reaching an interior, a Faraday cage won't touch anything outside of it. Probably can't block it completely because, you know, you need to be able to see through the windows...
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xzzy posted:Drive 2 mph slower than everyone else and this never becomes an issue.
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The Tennessee state police cruise around in this thing to catch people texting and generally loving off while driving;  No one expects a semi to be a marked unit.
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Mar 7, 2014 22:16
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Frinkahedron posted:If you just want to limit the cell signal reaching an interior, a Faraday cage won't touch anything outside of it. Probably can't block it completely because, you know, you need to be able to see through the windows... A faraday cage won't work - windows being the top issue, but not the only one. With todays multipath cell technology (ie LTE), you need to block the entire signal. Source: I spend atleast 10 hours a week in faraday cages testing cell phones
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Mar 7, 2014 22:16
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But everyone on the internet says faraday cages block everything. You mean that's not true? 
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Brigdh posted:A faraday cage won't work - windows being the top issue, but not the only one. With todays multipath cell technology (ie LTE), you need to block the entire signal. Source: I spend atleast 10 hours a week in faraday cages testing cell phones good to know!
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Sir Tonk posted:Do insurance companies have to start denying coverage if you were on your phone? Will the cops treat any usage like a DUI? My insurance company asked me about four times. It's a fine here if you are on your cellphone or otherwise distracted while operating your car; they are talking about escalating it to demerits because blitzes by the cops aren't doing much to dent the accident rates where one is involved. I would imagine it gets entered into the insurance company's internal "was someone breaking traffic law at the time" calculation.
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Mar 7, 2014 22:19
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0rganDonor posted:The Tennessee state police cruise around in this thing to catch people texting and generally loving off while driving;
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0rganDonor posted:The Tennessee state police cruise around in this thing to catch people loving while driving; Presumably this too
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Mar 7, 2014 22:22
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Pham Nuwen posted:I love how people will sit at an intersection, the brake lights flashing and the car jerking as they apparently keep thinking "Oh, light should be going green... NOW! gently caress!", releasing the brake and slamming it back again. I am guilty of this with shifting in and out of first gear.
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Mar 7, 2014 22:59
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TrueChaos posted:This is why touchscreens in cars are incredibly silly. Yes, let's put this thing that requires you to not only move your hand over to a button, but actually look to see what that button is, and where it is. Give me a tactile feedback interface I can use without looking away from the road (a quick glance is okay I guess) any day of the week. I tend to agree with you for the most part, but at least in Fords, there's the touchscreen, then below that there are tactile controls, and then on some cars, there's a 4.5 inch redundant screen that you can switch between radio presets, change temp and fan speed and a couple other functions through a five way switch on the steering wheel. Now the real stupidity starts when the tactile buttons begin to be replaced by weird touch sliders for volume and smooth touch sensitive non button buttons, a la Lincoln MKZ.
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exempt posted:Now the real stupidity starts when the tactile buttons begin to be replaced by weird touch sliders for volume and smooth touch sensitive non button buttons, a la Lincoln MKZ. Or that monstrosity they put in the Tesla S. How in the hell can anyone be expected to adjust the temperature without becoming a hazard to everyone on the road?
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Mar 7, 2014 23:49
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Its something that really needs to be legislated - there should be a certain amount of basic functionality accessible without having to go into a touch interface (even if its just temp, defrost, radio off and volume)
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Mar 8, 2014 00:03
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0rganDonor posted:The Tennessee state police cruise around in this thing to catch people texting and generally loving off while driving; Even better, even if you're doing 130kph, it enrages people to be behind a truck, so they do stupid things to pass you. All you'd have to do is set the cruise at 130 in the left hand lane, and you'd have people passing you doing 150 in the right hand lane, and bam.
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Mar 8, 2014 00:07
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0rganDonor posted:The Tennessee state police cruise around in this thing to catch people texting and generally loving off while driving; This is loving awesome.
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Pham Nuwen posted:I love how people will sit at an intersection, the brake lights flashing and the car jerking as they apparently keep thinking "Oh, light should be going green... NOW! gently caress!", releasing the brake and slamming it back again. Michigan.txt
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dissss posted:Its something that really needs to be legislated - there should be a certain amount of basic functionality accessible without having to go into a touch interface (even if its just temp, defrost, radio off and volume) Just make it voice activated. If you really need tactile controls you can put them on the steering wheel anyway.
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Snowdens Secret posted:Just make it voice activated. So then I have to turn off/down the radio and roll the windows up to do anything. This could be considered overcomplicating the problem.
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Mar 8, 2014 03:31
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Also voice recognition is still pretty poo poo for a large percentage of the population.
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Galler posted:Also voice recognition is still pretty poo poo for a large percentage of the population. I have to talk like william shatner to get Siri to work. "PLAY. SONGS. BY. BRITTANY. SPEARS."
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xzzy posted:I have to talk like william shatner to get Siri to work. Problem is you spelled her name wrong. Would've probably worked otherwise. dissss posted:Its something that really needs to be legislated - there should be a certain amount of basic functionality accessible without having to go into a touch interface (even if its just temp, defrost, radio off and volume) Either that or the insurance companies coming down on the carmakers. People want things to occupy their time and they're going to keep making new tech for cars until some outside force stops them.
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Mar 8, 2014 04:29
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Snowdens Secret posted:They're usually illegal because they fling road dirt, rocks, water etc loving everywhere and all over the cars behind/around them. It's not like the cheap plastic fender flares that make them legal are going to stop a wayward Pontiac. Yeah, the size of typical oversized Jeep tires is usually enough that a small car can totally miss the flares and go for an unexpected ride.
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Snowdens Secret posted:Just make it voice activated. If you really need tactile controls you can put them on the steering wheel anyway. That was BMW's answer when people complained about the iDrive. The slow as poo poo and depends on you having the right accent voice recognition. Newer models got redundant radio controls put back in.
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Mar 8, 2014 04:38
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Cars should just come with a Nest.
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CharlesM posted:That was BMW's answer when people complained about the iDrive. The slow as poo poo and depends on you having the right accent voice recognition. Newer models got redundant radio controls put back in. I don't think I have much of an accent (I grew up in PA not far from the Jersey border) but I haven't been able to get voice recognition to work in ANY car I've ever tried. I think that the cars just hate me though. One of my former co-workers is Vietnamese with a heavy accent and he has no trouble at all going through voice menus.
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Seat Safety Switch posted:Both my insurance company and the police were very interested in whether or not either driver in my recent parking lot totalling (yup) were on their cellphone at the time. When I rear ended someone  the claims adjuster kept asking over and over about various distractions. Texting. Car stereo. Reading a book. Looking at birds. Etc. No. No. no. No. No some more. I had to tell her 5 or 6 times that the person had started to go through the intersection, then stopped, and I wasn't distracted by anything inside the car - just not fast enough on the pedal.
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I know of someone who's totaled 3 cars checking their phone. 
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CharlesM posted:That was BMW's answer when people complained about the iDrive. The slow as poo poo and depends on you having the right accent voice recognition. Newer models got redundant radio controls put back in. I like iDrive, but then voice recognition also works well for me because my accent is basically RP.
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some texas redneck posted:When I rear ended someone I'm paranoid enough about this that I keep my cellphone in a latched box in the trunk in case I'm involved in a serious enough accident that I'm hospitalized and unable to give my side of the story for a while.
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0rganDonor posted:The Tennessee state police cruise around in this thing to catch people texting and generally loving off while driving; Here in Perth they've started using unmarked police motorcycles and helmet cams to catch people on their phones. They just lane split up and down the main freeway during the peak hour times when it's like a parking lot, and just record all the people on their phones and send infringements later in the mail, or radio to another cop on a marked bike to pull them over. It's loving glorious, and I hope they never stop. In the one month trial they did with a couple bikes, they issued 1300 fines.
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I don't really get some of this. A lot of people use their cell phones as audio sources (music/podcasts) and for gps. Banning use of a cell phone in the car would eliminate a big part of why I have one to begin with, and I only ever use it on speakerphone while it is mounted on my dashboard. Just because some people can't use their phone responsibly while driving doesn't mean the rest of us should be deprived of the privilege.
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So there was a normal kind of hit & run drunk story where I am, but then this part of the article appeared:quote:Finally, he returned to the parking lot where it all began. Some concerned citizens forced him to stop and slashed his tires. http://www.calgaryherald.com/news/crime-and-justice/nabbed+after+returning+scene+twice/9594375/story.html I've been to that bar. It's in the suburbs.
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Disgruntled Bovine posted:I don't really get some of this. A lot of people use their cell phones as audio sources (music/podcasts) and for gps. Banning use of a cell phone in the car would eliminate a big part of why I have one to begin with, and I only ever use it on speakerphone while it is mounted on my dashboard. Just because some people can't use their phone responsibly while driving doesn't mean the rest of us should be deprived of the privilege. I plug my phone in to play music in my car and leave it sat up on the dash, but I won't even touch the thing while I'm actually in motion. Maybe I'll skip a track or two (only one jab of the screen, not even moving it from the dash) at a long red light if it's a particularly bad song, but I wouldn't answer a call or reply to a text. Also is it a good idea to flash my brake lights at anyone who is on their phone behind me at red lights? Like, tap the pedal just to flash them every time they look down at it to get their attention before the lights change. Generally people ignore it but some will get At least then they are paying more attention to the road, or at least trying to run me off of it.  But seriously though, the attitude is usually "I know I'm in the wrong but gently caress YOU"
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It's a better idea to be on your brakes the whole time you're stopped, but I think we just went through this a few pages ago
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Snowdens Secret posted:It's a better idea to be on your brakes the whole time you're stopped, but I think we just went through this a few pages ago I'd only do this with the handbrake on though? Also when I'm waiting at a light and someone is approaching from behind I keep the footbrake on until they come to a stop so that they see me first. After that though is when I meant I'd be flashing the brake lights.
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JBark posted:Here in Perth they've started using unmarked police motorcycles and helmet cams to catch people on their phones. They just lane split up and down the main freeway during the peak hour times when it's like a parking lot, and just record all the people on their phones and send infringements later in the mail, or radio to another cop on a marked bike to pull them over. Because sitting in traffic not moving is a horribly dangerous time to check your phone. As usual things have gone like this: someone plows into another car doing 80 while checking their phone Laws are passed to prevent this happening the police realize they can print money if they bag everyone who is stopped, not dangerous, but technically breaking the law + easy to catch They ignore everyone who is driving around while using their phone, because that isn't as easy as catching people in traffic jams, even though it is far more dangerous And now we have more laws, less freedom, and you are cheering them on.
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kastein posted:And now we have more laws, less freedom, and you are cheering them on. Plus every single cop ordered to filter through stopped traffic looking for phones is one more policeman -not- catching people committing more serious moving violations or responding to far more serious actual crime.
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Most of these anti-cellphone driving laws have exemptions for cops literally written as part of the law. Apparently they have some kind of advanced hyper driving abilities.
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FogHelmut posted:Most of these anti-cellphone driving laws have exemptions for cops literally written as part of the law. Apparently they have some kind of advanced hyper driving abilities. Wait until you find out about the new healthcare laws. 
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0rganDonor posted:The Tennessee state police cruise around in this thing to catch people texting and generally loving off while driving; My dad drives a truck on local routes. Nearly every time I talk to him I get to hear about the poo poo he sees in the city. Summary: Lots of pot smoking going on People watching porn on their car's screens A whole, whole, whole lot of drinking and driving ("I was sitting in traffic, started looking around at other cars, one guy had a 40 in his lap, another had a tallboy of Bud Ice, guy in front of me had...") Lots of people playing on phones, weaving around Oh, and they all seem to wonder why in the world he can't stop a semi + trailer on a dime. They are polite enough to inform him, though, that he's "got some blinking red lights on one side of his truck" and he "might want to get those checked out". "It's my turn signal you moron!  "
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