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Dibujante posted:Please Paradox; the setting of Equestria is just a rich, untapped gold mine of Yugoslav wars '91 - '95 on Milošević 2.0 engine. Paradox forums go up in flames with Stockholm looted and pillaged by angry mobs.
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ArchangeI posted:Fair enough I don't want to see ugly production screen it might ruin my opinion about it. I always put everything but production under AI control and then I watch it for 12 years and produce things. SimAlbertSpeer
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Mar 7, 2014 21:21
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Disco Infiva posted:Yugoslav wars '91 - '95 on Milošević 2.0 engine. Paradox forums go up in flames with Stockholm looted and pillaged by angry mobs.
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DStecks posted:If, hypothetically, you decided that you wanted to be able to port your games to mobile devices, would that necessitate a whole new engine or could touch interface systems be bolted onto Clausewitz? They were about to port Clausewitz over to mobile devices but stopped when they realized a smaller version of the engine would have to be called My Little Paradox
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Mar 7, 2014 21:31
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gradenko_2000 posted:They were about to port Clausewitz over to mobile devices but stopped when they realized a smaller version of the engine would have to be called My Little Paradox
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ArchangeI posted:In case you were wondering what kind of people play HoI and have very strong opinions on the game: I love that quote.
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Mar 7, 2014 22:09
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ArchangeI posted:In case you were wondering what kind of people play HoI and have very strong opinions on the game: I like that guy, yesterday he was leading the "rebel flags" movement, but today he is back to a regular avatar and asking us questions in the DD thread 
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Mar 7, 2014 22:13
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Man the fall of EvsW is tragic but the forums rage makes it so worth it  Someone did make a good point though, a game based on the post war world where you control a party would be a really interesting game. You could even radicalize it into a guerrilla party! And Paradox devs are learning from Serb. That satisfies me greatly.
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Darkrenown posted:I like that guy, yesterday he was leading the "rebel flags" movement, but today he is back to a regular avatar and asking us questions in the DD thread
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Darkrenown posted:I like that guy, yesterday he was leading the "rebel flags" movement, but today he is back to a regular avatar and asking us questions in the DD thread Even in grogs, there is good.
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Mar 7, 2014 22:20
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HoI IV: Johan Andersson's War in The East I'm fine with this  (Does this mean we'll get doctrines that affect #of equipment and maybe even #battalions/divsion for the different nations?  flavor)
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A Buttery Pastry posted:I was going to suggest an "Islam is the Light" game, but this seems likely to result in far more rage, plus I actually kind of like the idea of a 632-867 game. I really like this idea actually.
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I want Paradox to make Rome 2 and a Dark Ages game and then spend a year making really detailed converters so you can play Rome 2 -> Dark Ages -> CK2 -> EU4 -> Vic2 -> HOI4 (Darkest Hour  ) and conquer the world with Carthage or Epirus or whoever.
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Disco Infiva posted:Yugoslav wars '91 - '95 on Milošević 2.0 engine. Paradox forums go up in flames with Stockholm looted and pillaged by angry mobs. Africa Universalis
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Mar 7, 2014 23:22
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Make an Africa Universalis game or a Central America Universalis game or a China Universalis or a Native Americans Universalis game and have the end boss by invincible attrition-proof Europeans with machine guns and smallpox, and then make it impossible to play as the Europeans.
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vyelkin posted:Make an Africa Universalis game or a Central America Universalis game or a China Universalis or a Native Americans Universalis game and have the end boss by invincible attrition-proof Europeans with machine guns and smallpox, and then make it impossible to play as the Europeans. Push out a patch to CK2 to make Sunset Invasion both free and mandatory to play with 
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Working out some kinks on the design of my "HEAVY tanks on the LEFT +1 if you agree" forum avatar flag
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Why aren't news networks covering the real revolution going on at the moment, that of the angry EvW fans who have seized the capital of the EvW forum and are making demands of the deposed former leader, Johan, who has fled to the larger and more powerful HoI 4 forums for their assistance?
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Kersch posted:Working out some kinks on the design of my "HEAVY tanks on the LEFT +1 if you agree" forum avatar flag 3-dimensional research screen with each type of tank on a different interlocking Mobius strip. Anything less would be a concession to the filthy casual hordes and a worse betrayal than cancelling World Stage and the wallpaper combined.
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logger posted:Sorry about what happened to you, but I have to tell you that this [me not being paid] Thanks, though getting involved in game development was sort of an accident. I never expected to get involved like I did. For the pro-bono work, I didn't have any choice fresh out of college exactly when the US economy fell apart. Doing work for free expanded my portfolio and got my work out there as a graphic designer, helping me land later jobs. I appreciate the sentiment, but pro-bono work later helped me get in to some nice jobs for a time. Guess I learned a lesson here! Dibujante posted:As long as his NDA doesn't forbid him from portfolio pieces, etc., this experience will still actually stand for something. It won't trump someone with a shipped game, but it will definitely trump someone with aspirations but no experience. That's what I'm taking away from this (I actually can describe roughly what I did thanks to a public dev diary!). It's at least some experience and I have valuable contacts in the industry that may or may not benefit me in the future. Better to have them then not. As an aside, I want to apologize for my unprofessional behavior yesterday. I shouldn't have made posts in the heat of the moment. I'm rather embarrassed by the whole thing. ...not as embarrassed as I am for people switching their avatars to rebel flags in protest, but pretty embarrassed. 
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 True tank research can only be expressed in four dimensions: Chassis, Gun, Engine and Reliability
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Mans posted:Man the fall of EvsW is tragic but the forums rage makes it so worth it Between trolling Paradox forums posters and the new HoI4 tank tech tree it's clear internet tanks has really left its mark on Darkrenown It's ok, the World of Tanks loosens everyone's hold on sanity sooner or later...
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I dunno what you are talking about. The WoT tech tree is laid out horizontally, totally different!
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Mans posted:Someone did make a good point though, a game based on the post war world where you control a party would be a really interesting game. You could even radicalize it into a guerrilla party! It wouldn't be a cold war game without guerrillas now would it.
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reignonyourparade posted:It wouldn't be a cold war game without guerrillas now would it. Well, it looked like it was! I have no idea how Vietnam would have worked in EvW.
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Mans posted:Someone did make a good point though, a game based on the post war world where you control a party would be a really interesting game. You could even radicalize it into a guerrilla party! Yeah, I made that suggestion the last time this topic came up in this thread. The thing that makes CK2 fun is that, within your nation, you've got a ton of independent actors that have their own competing goals and ideas, which are not always aligned with yours. A great way to do this with a game set in modern times would be to have the basic unit of organization be the Party, where you play as a Party within a nation. Then the main game would be to try to campaign for votes and try to get your party elected to government -- or plot to depose the government in a coup or popular uprising! For one thing, it would make playing as the minor nations actually interesting, even while the Cold War rages on outside.
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DrSunshine posted:Yeah, I made that suggestion the last time this topic came up in this thread. The thing that makes CK2 fun is that, within your nation, you've got a ton of independent actors that have their own competing goals and ideas, which are not always aligned with yours. A great way to do this with a game set in modern times would be to have the basic unit of organization be the Party, where you play as a Party within a nation. Then the main game would be to try to campaign for votes and try to get your party elected to government -- or plot to depose the government in a coup or popular uprising! For one thing, it would make playing as the minor nations actually interesting, even while the Cold War rages on outside. While it's an interesting thought, the question is: what do you do if you lose the election? Just sit around for 4 years doing nothing?
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DrSunshine posted:Yeah, I made that suggestion the last time this topic came up in this thread. The thing that makes CK2 fun is that, within your nation, you've got a ton of independent actors that have their own competing goals and ideas, which are not always aligned with yours. A great way to do this with a game set in modern times would be to have the basic unit of organization be the Party, where you play as a Party within a nation. Then the main game would be to try to campaign for votes and try to get your party elected to government -- or plot to depose the government in a coup or popular uprising! For one thing, it would make playing as the minor nations actually interesting, even while the Cold War rages on outside. That sounds really amazing. One think I really dislike about Victoria 2 for example is that your political option are so limited.
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DStecks posted:While it's an interesting thought, the question is: what do you do if you lose the election? Just sit around for 4 years doing nothing? You'd have a lot of stuff to do! You could cozy up to strong donors, double-down on radicalism and attempt to foment an incident among the masses, oppose the laws that the ruling party tries to impose in the Parliament, contact a foreign government ruled by the same ideology as yours and try to get sponsorship and secret training to incite a revolution, or campaign and increase your party's support base in the provinces until the next election. All the things that political parties do in real life! If they made the political side the main attraction -- and allowed foreign governments to intervene in the political affairs of foreign countries by influencing and supporting parties -- it would be a great substitute for the "Hot wars all the time" murderfest that most games tend to degenerate into. EDIT: Like, for example, it might be quite hard to gain CBs in the modern era, but a superpower neighboring a country within the same culture group might try to sponsor a party that is favorable to it. If that party takes over, the government might readily agree to become a puppet, or it might decrease the costs of sphering them. And, if the party gets kicked out, you might gain a CB to reinstate that party. Also, if a radical ethnic party took over and started to repress minorities, you could gain a CB to protect members of your ethnic community within the neighboring country. DrSunshine fucked around with this message at 16:26 on Mar 8, 2014 |
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That would more accurately represent the desire to impose one-party dictatorships on either your own state or others', to make sure you or your allies are just in power all the time rather than worrying about losing an election or having your allies elect the other side's party.
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vyelkin posted:That would more accurately represent the desire to impose one-party dictatorships on either your own state or others', to make sure you or your allies are just in power all the time rather than worrying about losing an election or having your allies elect the other side's party.
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I dunno if it's still OK or topical enough to go on about EvW, but I thought this was too good to pass up.quote:What the hell are you talking about? I am saying the complete opposite. That BL-Logic did not get any money and certainly if there was a budget it was much less than these 250000 as most developers were working as volunteers or so (as you can read from their published bios). BL-Logic, in my opinion and unless proven otherwise, was NEVER under the payroll of Paradox. Perhaps the project manager and a couple of guys might have taken some kind of "salary" for their dedication, but definitely not full-time or otherwise. BL-Logic's real profits would have come from the release of the game, either as beta (donation) or as end release (part of the sales). The unit number there is Euros, by the way. The guy seems to think that it's ridiculous that three years of production could have cost 250,000 Euros or more, so clearly the only explanation is that the developers worked for free without quitting their day jobs and Paradox never invested any money at all and the reason why it all failed was because mean ol' Paradox failed to (non-monetarily) support the developers.  Edit: Also, other guys are arguing that any NDA signed no longer applies because EvW was canceled, therefore anyone who wants to shoot their mouth off right now can do so scot-free without legal reprecussions! Tomn fucked around with this message at 19:36 on Mar 8, 2014 |
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Tomn posted:Edit: Also, other guys are arguing that any NDA signed no longer applies because EvW was canceled, therefore anyone who wants to shoot their mouth off right now can do so scot-free without legal reprecussions! Pretty sure that's dependent on the actual wording of the NDA contract.
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So Paradox did a cool thing on their forum for International Women's Day and put up posts listing various famous and influential women from the periods covered in their games. Predictably, the two I checked both had people who are upset about even giving women one day of focus every 365 complaining, and I'm sure the other threads were similar.
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Patter Song posted:So Paradox did a cool thing on their forum for International Women's Day and put up posts listing various famous and influential women from the periods covered in their games. Predictably, the two I checked both had people who are upset about even giving women one day of focus every 365 complaining, and I'm sure the other threads were similar. The posts themselves are a pretty cool thing that Paradox did, anyway.
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Rincewind posted:The posts themselves are a pretty cool thing that Paradox did, anyway. I also jumped the gun a bit. I read the EU4 thread first, and it was far and away the worst. The commenters in the others were much better. I'm also glad that the CK2 one recognized http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hildegard_of_Bingen who is one of the coolest figures of the 12th century. And Empress Matilda, another favorite of mine.
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Patter Song posted:So Paradox did a cool thing on their forum for International Women's Day and put up posts listing various famous and influential women from the periods covered in their games. Predictably, the two I checked both had people who are upset about even giving women one day of focus every 365 complaining, and I'm sure the other threads were similar. Most of those threads are pretty okay, actually. The EU4 one does have a dude who thinks expelling the Jews from Spain was  the logical choice for the betterment of the Spanish nation as Spain is not a Jewish state, though.
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Patter Song posted:So Paradox did a cool thing on their forum for International Women's Day and put up posts listing various famous and influential women from the periods covered in their games. Predictably, the two I checked both had people who are upset about even giving women one day of focus every 365 complaining, and I'm sure the other threads were similar. Glad you pointed these out. They're pretty cool.
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