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supermikhail posted:Will someone here tell me what's the etymology of the word "Langolier"? I think the only thing King ever said about the name is that it sounded right for the name of a time monster.
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supermikhail posted:Will someone here tell me what's the etymology of the word "Langolier"? Possibly from "languid" (sluggish, exhausted) and the suffix -ier ("operator", ie. gondolier, grenadier)?
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Franchescanado posted:Cocaine, weed, alcohol and Listerine. That's exactly what I hoped for. The Time Dissolver posted:Possibly from "languid" (sluggish, exhausted) and the suffix -ier ("operator", ie. gondolier, grenadier)? You, sir, do not win.  But seriously, Install Windows posted:I think the only thing King ever said about the name is that it sounded right for the name of a time monster. It sounds like a real word, so confusing, even more so when it's the title.
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Mar 9, 2014 18:14
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Ein cooler Typ posted:finished Full Dark No Stars "Fair Extension" was great, if only for how mean it was. I also enjoyed "1922" a lot. The ending gave me the creeps.
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Mar 9, 2014 19:48
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"Langoliers" is just the bogeyman Balki's mom made up to scare him as a kid, it's a nonsense word.
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It has been a long time since I kept up with this thread and Stephen King in general. This Revival book...any news about it?
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crankdatbatman posted:It has been a long time since I kept up with this thread and Stephen King in general. This Revival book...any news about it? That's coming out next November, and Mr. Mercedes is coming out in June. You can read about both of them at StephenKing.com
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Mar 10, 2014 01:52
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So just how bad (or good) is Dreamcatcher? It gets a lot of flack but I've heard it described as a sort of spiritual sequel to IT and I was wondering whether that is at all accurate and whether the book is actually worth reading.
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Mar 10, 2014 18:03
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Edwardian posted:I finally started "Under the Dome," and I can't get past the first 50 pages. It's just not pulling me in the way a King book usually does. Tough it out, it's pretty good.
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Mar 10, 2014 18:13
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Helsing posted:So just how bad (or good) is Dreamcatcher? It gets a lot of flack but I've heard it described as a sort of spiritual sequel to IT and I was wondering whether that is at all accurate and whether the book is actually worth reading. Do you enjoy hunting trips, poo poo weasels, and magical mentally-handicapped folk that aren't Tom Cullen? Then you are right in Dreamcatcher's demographic, my friend! More seriously, it's just kind of mediocre and is the novel that suffers the most from post-van syndrome. It's no Gerald's Game.
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Jazerus posted:Do you enjoy hunting trips, poo poo weasels, and magical mentally-handicapped folk that aren't Tom Cullen? Then you are right in Dreamcatcher's demographic, my friend! It's the first novel he wrote after his accident (from wikipedia: "The book, written in cursive, helped the author recuperate from a 1999 car accident, and was completed in half a year") and you can really tell he wasn't in his right mind. It starts off with a guy getting hit by a car, as a matter of fact. And while there's a lot of it that's sub-par (it re-treads a lot of themes he'd covered better in other books), there's also a fair amount of insight about why people are happy to do hideous things. The movie, though. The movie. WE MEET AGAIN MR GAY
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Helsing posted:So just how bad (or good) is Dreamcatcher? It gets a lot of flack but I've heard it described as a sort of spiritual sequel to IT and I was wondering whether that is at all accurate and whether the book is actually worth reading. I'm usually the odd man out on this one. Dreamcatcher was one of the first few(maybe the 3rd?) King books I read when I lived on my own. I loved how it started, and I liked where it went with it. I knew it wasn't very good after the first half, and I liked it so much, I guess I just didn't care. I wanted to see how it ended, and I read really fast. I went through it in a few long evenings. I've read everything King's published since then at least once, except for Dark Tower 2-7, and re-read a lot of them, including Dreamcatcher about 3 times. I can compare it to the other books, and see that it's (partly) not very good, but I still enjoy reading it. It's not even in my top 10 "best" King books, but just writing this is making me want to go re-read it again. Edit: gently caress that movie, though. If they could have used the same actors to make a high-budget HBO mini-series, and not gently caress with the story, you'd have...something that would get an HBO exec fired? Aquarium Gravel fucked around with this message at 20:15 on Mar 10, 2014 |
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Mar 10, 2014 20:11
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The best part of Dreamcatcher is that one guy's, I think it's Jonesy, mental warehouse. It's an interesting way of showing the dude having his own story about resisting Mr. Gray.
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:The best part of Dreamcatcher is that one guy's, I think it's Jonesy, mental warehouse. It's an interesting way of showing the dude having his own story about resisting Mr. Gray. I agree. That's what makes the movie so strangely bad. Like, Stephen King-isms rarely, if ever, translate to the screen (see: The Shining mini-series and the hedge animals). But for whatever reason, that one part actually worked, and worked wonderfully well. I couldn't believe it. And, for what it's worth, all the characters worked well, too. Even the Beav. And then Morgan Freeman snarled as he fired a minigun from a helicopter, and the movie ended with Major Winters stepping on an alien slug and smiling. Which was total loving nonsense.
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Mar 11, 2014 01:45
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Think I'm going to reread Duma Key again sometime during Spring Break. I enjoyed it more than any other Post-2000 Stephen King book, even if the payoff was kinda meh.
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Mar 11, 2014 16:16
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I finished King's short story "Summer Thunder" over lunch and now I need to hug my dog.
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Mar 11, 2014 19:56
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Saw this while playing Pokemon and it creeped me out:
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Mar 12, 2014 06:45
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AYC posted:Saw this while playing Pokemon and it creeped me out: Looks like they missed an opportunity for an entire party of Mr. Mimes.
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:The best part of Dreamcatcher is that one guy's, I think it's Jonesy, mental warehouse. It's an interesting way of showing the dude having his own story about resisting Mr. Gray. Hannibal Lecter and Sherlock Holmes both have mental warehouses as far as literary characters go. That was a different kind of adaptation of the idea, although I believe I saw similar in X-Men or something.
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Mar 13, 2014 22:55
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I love hunting through piles of used books, no matter where those piles may be. Never know when you might find something cool. I was at the thrift store tonight doing just this when I discovered a little cache of old Stephen King hardcovers - not unusual in the least, so I look through them half-heartedly and what jumps out at me but a first edition of Pet Semetary, distinctive cover art of the hissing cat and all. Right next to a first edition of Different seasons, both priced at $3 each but half off, so I got them for $3 total. Not too bad a deal! Both are in damned good condition considering they're 30+ years old.
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Mar 14, 2014 01:53
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I'm reading The Stand for the first time, I'm about half way through. How come Frannie goes from being an interesting character to a lovesick 16 year old? Seriously, it's like as soon as we get inside of her diary she only pines for Stu and talks about how gross Harold is and it's all written in the voice of some 15 year old valley girl. What the heck is that about?
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Mar 14, 2014 07:34
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Ultimates2 posted:I'm reading The Stand for the first time, I'm about half way through. King's overt and undisguised sexism. See also Susan in Salem's lot.
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Mar 14, 2014 10:48
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It really seemed like King got tired of the character for some reason because after they get to Denver she pretty much does absolutely nothing of any importance the rest of the story.
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muscles like this? posted:It really seemed like King got tired of the character for some reason because after they get to Denver she pretty much does absolutely nothing of any importance the rest of the story. Men were doing important things. She was doing the only important thing women do. King's writing about women in the early days was horrible beyond belief. He all but wore a fedora in those days. The fact is that he undeniably believed that women were just bitches bent on denying men their god-given right to sex. (Every single character in the Bachman books is like this, which he openly acknowledges was based on his own "sexual frustrations" in the introduction to the collection). quote:Women’s lib, Frannie had decided (thinking that if she was going to be bald, she might as well go totally bald), was nothing more nor less than an outgrowth of the technological society. Women were at the mercy of their bodies. They were smaller. They tended to be weaker. A man couldn’t get with child, but a woman could—every four-year-old knows it. And a pregnant woman is a vulnerable human being. Civilization had provided an umbrella of sanity that both sexes could stand beneath. Liberation—that one word said it all. Before civilization, with its careful and merciful system of protections, women had been slaves. Let us not gild the lily; slaves was what we were, Fran thought. Then the evil days ended. And the Women’s Credo, which should have been hung in the offices of Ms. magazine, preferably in needlepoint, was just this: Thank you, Men, for the railroads. Thank you, Men, for inventing the automobile and killing the red Indians who thought it might be nice to hold on to America for a while longer, since they were here first. Thank you, Men, for the hospitals, the police, the schools. Now I’d like to vote, please, and have the right to set my own course and make my own destiny. Once I was chattel, but now that is obsolete. My days of slavery must be over; I need to be a slave no more than I need to cross the Atlantic Ocean in a tiny boat with sails. Jet planes are safer and quicker than little boats with sails and freedom makes more sense than slavery. I am not afraid of flying. Thank you, Men.
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I read (in Danse, I think) that he wrote Frannie as the kind of woman he wanted to fall in love with. I'm usually not down with psychoanalyzing writers (the text should speak only for itself), but seeing how young King was when he wrote The Stand, it's pretty easy to see he hadn't grown out of the mentality that most men have up until twenty-five or so (and later, now, with protracted adolescence). But as a counterpoint, I think that Bobbi Anderson in The Tommyknockers is a really well-written female character, probably the best King's ever done, and that book was, like The Stand, part of his early career. So I dunno.
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rypakal posted:Men were doing important things. She was doing the only important thing women do. Yeah, I think it is important to emphasize the early days bit. Comparing Frannie to, say, the women in Full Dark No Stars is like they were written by different people.
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joepinetree posted:Yeah, I think it is important to emphasize the early days bit. Comparing Frannie to, say, the women in Full Dark No Stars is like they were written by different people. Thirty years separated The Stand and Full Dark, No Stars, so a little change is understandable. Honestly, to me, it just represents how much the world has changed since 1978. I don't just see sexism in King's books; I see it in movies, TV shows, and news reports from that time period as well. Watching movies like Overboard that my dad loves is fun, but they make me tilt my head sideways since the way they portray women seems so outdated and unfair to my 21st century eyes. TL;DR institutionalized sexism was much more acceptable 36 years ago, and that's reflected in the attitudes of King's works. AYC fucked around with this message at 20:04 on Mar 14, 2014 |
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I think my problem with Fran and Susan is that he tried to make them real people and then flushed it all away. It would be better if he never got my hopes up.
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I wish Fran had died. It was really hosed up how she friend zoned Harold and the women in Full Dark No Stars are bad they should have reported the crimes to the proper authorities vigilante justice is wrong
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rypakal posted:(Every single character in the Bachman books is like this, which he openly acknowledges was based on his own "sexual frustrations" in the introduction to the collection). Thinner is a really super uncomfortable read for this very reason, even if the main character is supposed to be a terrible person.
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Ein cooler Typ posted:I wish Fran had died. It was really hosed up how she friend zoned Harold *eyerolling intensifies*
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I'm rereading It. I've just finished the Junkyard sequence. I think that bit might be more unpleasant than the sewer scene at the end. I imagine people have less of a problem with it because it's intentionally gross, whereas the sewer scene is supposed to be this beautiful and heart-warming moment. And it got me thinking back over all the King books I've read, and I realised that the infamous gang-bang is the only sexual sequence I can remember where King has tried to write sexy, every other one is written to shock and gross out the reader, and I don't think he's capable of writing sex any other way (not that the Sewer bit a good example of sexy sex writing; that scene is so conceptually awful that I have a hard time imagining any writer making it work).
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Yeah, the junkyard is comically, hideously, wonderfully uncomfortable. All of Patrick Hocksetter's stuff--and all the way up to his death--is a loving fantastic piece of writing.
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AYC posted:*eyerolling intensifies* Yeah, Frannie owed Harold sex and a relationship after all he put up with from her, stalking her before the outbreak and whatnot. She's such a loving feminazi bitch for leading him on that way, you know? Poor bastard, having to go to sleep with his semen drying on his stomach like an arrow pointing up to his face. But thankfully, the Walkin' Dude showed him how to properly neg sluts and the precise manner in which to peacock. He's gonna get so much pussy.
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:Poor bastard, having to go to sleep with his semen drying on his stomach like an arrow pointing up to his face. More! This is loving amazing.
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WattsvilleBlues posted:More! This is loving amazing. You could call Harold's behavior (•_•) ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■) A red Flagg.
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Just got Skeleton Crew. 'The Mist' is pretty great. I read half in one sitting because I couldn't put it down.
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AYC posted:You could call Harold's behavior There is no emoticon for hos this makes me feel 
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