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Slavvy posted:Seriously? None of you guys think that loving invisibility would be useful IRL? It isn't something I'd need every day, unless I'm a spy or a commando or somebody is trying to kill me. Compared to something like enhanced vision or extreme strength it's situational at best.
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I actually mentioned Cloak in mine, but I agree. In terms of day-to-day usefulness, invisibility really has few non-nefarious purposes.
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Mar 8, 2014 04:55
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Oh we're talking about non nefarious purposes... Cause I'd just rob banks and steal poo poo erryday if I had invisibility. I guess that means I'm a terrible person if noone's watching?
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Mar 8, 2014 04:59
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The issue is you can have invisibility from organic sight or from robo-sight so if you're robbing banks they've still got video of you doing it and if you're camera invisible the guards just shoot you dead.
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Mar 8, 2014 05:08
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Plus, you know, the floating pile of cash will probably tip them off. And then there's all that hi-tech tagging stuff banks do to their money, which would probably doom you anyway.
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Mar 8, 2014 05:19
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A Darker Porpoise posted:The issue is you can have invisibility from organic sight or from robo-sight so if you're robbing banks they've still got video of you doing it and if you're camera invisible the guards just shoot you dead. In IW you could have both as they took up two different slots, but the problem is even at max level on both you're going through energy like it was candy bars and you were your ancestor Adam Jenson.
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Mar 8, 2014 06:20
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Slavvy posted:Oh we're talking about non nefarious purposes... Physically stealing useful amounts of money seems like a massive pain in the rear end. You'd be better off with hacking if that's what you want to do.
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Mar 8, 2014 06:33
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Slavvy posted:Oh we're talking about non nefarious purposes... The problem with both this and the hacking augs is that if these augs are available then you've got to assume that there are going to be some pretty effective countermeasures in place. In Deus Ex you can hack ATMs with impunity because you're literally the second person in the world with nano-augs and both of you are in law enforcement, so the defences don't exist yet. It makes less sense in the other two games, but in both cases you can assume that whatever version of the hacking augs you've got is cutting edge and still just ahead of the technology available to defend against it. In a month or two Adam and Alex are back to earning their money the hard way.
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Mar 8, 2014 08:27
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A Darker Porpoise posted:The issue is you can have invisibility from organic sight or from robo-sight so if you're robbing banks they've still got video of you doing it and if you're camera invisible the guards just shoot you dead. You can have both. You just need to find two of those cannisters. Regarding the spy-drone, I always imagined the top of JC's head would just hinge open, like cranial hangar doors.
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Mar 8, 2014 08:38
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Teledahn posted:Regarding the spy-drone, I always imagined the top of JC's head would just hinge open, like cranial hangar doors. I operated under the same assumptions, except... It appears in front of his face.
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Mar 8, 2014 10:09
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JC is really a robot being piloted by one of those little dudes from M.I.B.
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Mar 8, 2014 10:22
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I want to be able to down a bottle of booze instantly, get totally hammered, then sober up again in under a minute. Also chain smoke an entire pack of fags in a single breathe. And immediately interact with anything within reasonable visual distance, or put it into my pockets or backpack, even when I've got my hands full. Y'know how you can be carrying an important large steel crate home but really fancy a quick smoke and a tipple?  Not a problem for me, pal.
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Mar 8, 2014 10:30
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Slavvy posted:Oh we're talking about non nefarious purposes... No, no, you're not a terrible person. You're an RPG protagonist. I also think the infolink, the spy drone and enhanced vision would be pretty sweet.
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Mar 8, 2014 13:28
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I'd probs just take eye augs and maybe an arm aug, make some crazy like pip-boy poo poo for a forearm like a lovely sci-fi movie. Maybe an ear aug and inner mouth aug, to add phone functionality to the wrist-boy. Problem with body augs is that they would make you unlovable to most people. You would be considered an outcast freak of nature.
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Mar 8, 2014 15:41
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Slavvy posted:Oh we're talking about non nefarious purposes... Don't worry, everyone is.
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Mar 8, 2014 15:56
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Tiggum posted:The problem with both this and the hacking augs is that if these augs are available then you've got to assume that there are going to be some pretty effective countermeasures in place. In Deus Ex you can hack ATMs with impunity because you're literally the second person in the world with nano-augs and both of you are in law enforcement, so the defences don't exist yet. It makes less sense in the other two games, but in both cases you can assume that whatever version of the hacking augs you've got is cutting edge and still just ahead of the technology available to defend against it. In a month or two Adam and Alex are back to earning their money the hard way. Remember that JC's hacking is a skill, not an augmentation. I think the ICE breaker is simply some professional-grade equipment UNATCO hands out to agents who know how to use it.
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Mar 8, 2014 19:46
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How do skills work in regards to lore? I'm not sure how well the game explains it but I believe its somthing like installing software in your head, the nanobots free up space in JC's brain and climatises JC's mind in the form of experience for doing various tasks. So when he picks what skills to excell in he doesn't have any unpleasant mental issues develop as a result. If this is indeed the case, then for all we know that hacking software is powered with ram and processing from his own brain. Incidentally, if what I posted is actually canon not just a load of nonsense I made up, a nanotech powered agent could theoreticaly master every skill required of him whithin a very short time span.
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Mar 8, 2014 20:28
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Bobbin Threadbare posted:Remember that JC's hacking is a skill, not an augmentation. I think the ICE breaker is simply some professional-grade equipment UNATCO hands out to agents who know how to use it. It's an aug in Invisible War. 
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Mar 8, 2014 20:58
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LoonShia posted:No, no, you're not a terrible person. You're an RPG protagonist. But you repeat yourself.
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Mar 8, 2014 21:00
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paragon1 posted:It's an aug in Invisible War. And in Human Revolution. But unlike his predecessor or his descendant, JC Denton knows how to rely on his skills and not just his augmentations. 
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Mar 8, 2014 21:02
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Bobbin Threadbare posted:And in Human Revolution. But unlike his predecessor or his descendant, JC Denton knows how to rely on his skills and not just his augmentations. Or maybe he hacks with his Infolink. Personally, I just assume Skills are JC's proficiency with using his augs in those areas. He CAN use any gun right out of the gate, but having his body modified by nanoaugmentation means his training doesn't really apply when he has a HUD and sunglasses at night and his body being constantly changed by the nanobots. So upgrading Swimming is just JC coping with having bits of him float, bits of him sink, due to his augs.
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Mar 8, 2014 23:32
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I just want Adam Jensen's retractable sunglasses augmentation. It doesn't have to do anything fancy I just want sunglasses that retract into my skull.
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Mar 8, 2014 23:38
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In the past, Adam Jensen was able to reply to messages via InfoLink, simply by talking aloud. This is a skill rendered ineffectual to the N series units, but presumably it was less of a problem with him not looking like a jerk muttering to himself in a gravelly voice.
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Mar 8, 2014 23:45
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J.theYellow posted:In the past, Adam Jensen was able to reply to messages via InfoLink, simply by talking aloud. This is a skill rendered ineffectual to the N series units, but presumably it was less of a problem with him not looking like a jerk muttering to himself in a gravelly voice. There's no muttering involved, it's done by subvocalising. That's why you can chat with Pritchard or Sarif while nearby enemies remain oblivious.
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Mar 9, 2014 07:55
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That's still ignoring the greatest contribution Jensen ever made to the world of augmentation - the nano impale beard.
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I start watching a LP of Deus Ex and an hour later I am suddenly smarter. What is this sorcery?  And as a european, getting such informations about america is always something new. Michaellaneous fucked around with this message at 18:56 on Mar 9, 2014 |
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Tiggum posted:There's no muttering involved, it's done by subvocalising. That's why you can chat with Pritchard or Sarif while nearby enemies remain oblivious. This is the reason I suggested a throat or inner mouth aug.
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Michaellaneous posted:eurofag LoonShia posted:I also think the infolink, the spy drone and enhanced vision would be pretty sweet.
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Mar 9, 2014 17:37
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Veyrall posted:Since, as long as you don't have to pick anything up, the spy drone would act like Invisibility anyway. What does Enhanced Vision do? In IW, it let you see the outlines of people through walls, which was...not terribly useful, since listening could do basically the same thing. Here's the breakdown for the eye augmentations: Vision Enhancement: TECH ONE: Nightvision. TECH TWO: Infravision. TECH THREE: Close range sonar imaging. TECH FOUR: Long range sonar imaging. Energy Rate: 40 Units/Minute Targeting: TECH ONE: Slight increase in accuracy and general target information. // Provides the name of the target, the distance to the target, and a description of its status [e.g. medium health]. TECH TWO: Additional increase in accuracy and more target information. // Provides area specific health information, [e.g. Head 100%, Torso 75% etc.]. TECH THREE: Additional increase in accuracy and specific target information. //Displays the target's weapon. TECH FOUR: Additional increase in accuracy and telescopic vision. // Provides a close-up, picture-in-picture display of the target. Energy Rate: 40 Units/Minute Also, targeting provides a general-purpose accuracy boost with all weapons (per level?)
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    Handouts: Curly's Diary VOTE MEAD 2048 Juan's Security Known misses: This is just a reminder to myself to use the spare zyme vial to show off its effect.
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I think you're right, but there is a better way to put it. Escapism.
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Mar 10, 2014 18:03
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Not only is LaGuardia Airport nowhere near the Brooklyn Bridge - it's not even in Brooklyn. It's all the way at the north of Queens.
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Mar 10, 2014 18:17
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You can actually get Xander77 fucked around with this message at 21:30 on Mar 10, 2014 |
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Mar 10, 2014 19:47
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I'M NOT ADDICTED TO VIDEO GAMES, DON'T YOU JUDGE ME! In other news anyone else pre-order Dark Souls 2 and the new Diablo 3 expansion yet? Yea they are going to be great, I just bet. 
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CasinoV posted:I'M NOT ADDICTED TO VIDEO GAMES, DON'T YOU JUDGE ME! Nah man. I'm on the free roguelike methadone program.
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Mar 10, 2014 21:10
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Regy Rusty posted:Not only is LaGuardia Airport nowhere near the Brooklyn Bridge - it's not even in Brooklyn. It's all the way at the north of Queens. Yeah, both of the air ports are in Queens, one far to the north and one far to the east of JC. Queens kinda hugs all around brooklyn. Also NYC had an earthquake in the last 3-4 years during the summer. 2012 i think? Set off all the alarms in hundreds of buildings in midtown.
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Do you really have to get every single bit of dialogue from every single minor character? It's tedious as gently caress, and since it's in the middle of all the relevant things there's no way to just skip past it. I can understand the value of hearing what all named, plot-relevant characters have to say, but hearing that UNATCO trooper #427 has things under control seems kind of pointless.
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biosterous posted:Do you really have to get every single bit of dialogue from every single minor character? It's tedious as gently caress, and since it's in the middle of all the relevant things there's no way to just skip past it. I can understand the value of hearing what all named, plot-relevant characters have to say, but hearing that UNATCO trooper #427 has things under control seems kind of pointless. you shut your whore mouth
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Thing is, when you're actually playing the game, the NPC banter is a huge part of setting the, well, setting. Even if you can't be bothered to read the books and look at pictures, they will drag you into the world of Deus Ex - kicking and screaming if that's what it takes. I believe this level of immersion is one of the main reasons why the game is still so good and perfectly playable nowadays, despite the aged graphics and non-intuitive mechanics.
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GetWellGamers posted:you shut your whore mouth Seconded. I want the talking! All of it.
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