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Vagabundo posted:The problem with Gatland is that he needs to grow up. I know I keep banging this drum, but seriously, it's long past due for Gatland to stop being such a loving baby. Has he said anything about the NZRU recently that I missed? If not, it seems a bit rich to say it's long past due for him to get over something, and then post an article from 5 years ago  Clive Woodward has got to the bottom of why Wales lost Clive Woodward posted:I was pitchside during Wales’s warm-up and I cannot believe the colour of their tracksuit. It is the most awful grey and whoever chose it needs to be taught a few things about professionalism. stavros880 fucked around with this message at 21:30 on Mar 10, 2014 |
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Vagabundo posted:The problem with Gatland is that he needs to grow up. I know I keep banging this drum, but seriously, it's long past due for Gatland to stop being such a loving baby. It's going to be funny as hell when Gatland swoops in and takes the ABs coaching job over Dave Rennie. edit: Clive Woodward's a dirty troll and I can't wait for the All Blacks to hammer England at home 3-0 ftw
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Mar 10, 2014 21:58
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I almost forgot about Clive's irrational hatred of beards.....
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Mar 10, 2014 22:05
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stavros880 posted:Has he said anything about the NZRU recently that I missed? If not, it seems a bit rich to say it's long past due for him to get over something, and then post an article from 5 years ago It's an ongoing pattern of behaviour with him. The last significant contact between Gatland and the NZRU was in 2010, before he signed a contract extension with the WRU after expressing a desire to return to New Zealand, only to find that the NZRU and Super Rugby sides weren't tripping over their own feet in a rush to sign him up as a coach. I mean, why would they? The fact that he went out of his way to make false accusations about the NZRU refusing to promote him from the Waikato provincial side to a Super Rugby team has basically meant he's likely burned his bridges in New Zealand for the time being and the fact that he's now further extended his contract with the WRU until after the 2019 tournament suggests that he's accepted this. Basically, as long as Steve Tew is around, Gatland's not going to coach in New Zealand at any significant level and Tew is unlikely to be ousted any time soon.
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Mar 10, 2014 22:08
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Woodward is an irrelevance that has failed to do anything meaningful since having one of the best English rugby teams of all time carry his sorry arse through the world cup. Sadly, this hasn't stopped him having a loving awful opinion of everything since then. He's rugby's answer to Glen Hoddle.
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Mar 10, 2014 22:34
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England and Clive won the World Cup thanks to the flattering cut of their jerseys, the total absence of beards and PROFESSIONALISM.
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Mar 10, 2014 22:40
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Vagabundo posted:Basically, as long as Steve Tew is around, Gatland's not going to coach in New Zealand at any significant level and Tew is unlikely to be ousted any time soon. Lets be honest; the NZRU had a major hard-on for Todd Blackadder who would have been a more likely contender for the All Blacks spot. That was even before Dave Rennie proved his success with the U20s was no fluke by coaching the Chiefs onto back-to-back titles in his first two years as their coach. Considering that John Kirwan, another NZRU golden boy, is coaching the Blues (although, like Blackadder, the results haven't been impressive - in fact worse) I don't see Gatland getting a look-in nowadays.
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ElectroMagneticJosh posted:Lets be honest; the NZRU had a major hard-on for Todd Blackadder who would have been a more likely contender for the All Blacks spot. That was even before Dave Rennie proved his success with the U20s was no fluke by coaching the Chiefs onto back-to-back titles in his first two years as their coach. Considering that John Kirwan, another NZRU golden boy, is coaching the Blues (although, like Blackadder, the results haven't been impressive - in fact worse) I don't see Gatland getting a look-in nowadays. Deans is more likely to get the All Blacks gig than Gatland at this stage. Hell, Deans was taken seriously as a coaching candidate in 2007 and might have even got the job if Tew hadn't called up McCaw to ask for his opinion, since he was the best possible person to ask for a comparison between Deans and Henry. It's hard to tell with Kirwan, considering the fact that he's taken on one of the most inconsistent Super Rugby franchises and a lot of the issues with the current Blues team basically mirrors pretty much what his predecessors have had to deal with. I think he'll make a fantastic assistant coach to be honest. He did genuinely improve Japan's performances when he coached them and he does have a history of success as a coach in the Japanese Top League (he made the NEC Green Rockets regular contenders as coach, and their performances basically fell off a cliff as soon as he moved on). Also, I'd take his Blues sides over the rabble that they were reduced to under Pat Lam.
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Vagabundo posted:Deans is more likely to get the All Blacks gig than Gatland at this stage. Hell, Deans was taken seriously as a coaching candidate in 2007 and might have even got the job if Tew hadn't called up McCaw to ask for his opinion, since he was the best possible person to ask for a comparison between Deans and Henry. Fair point. I'm not suggesting Kirwan is ready or ever will be - just that he is well ahead of Gatland.
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Mar 11, 2014 09:51
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So in case anyone was wondering, this is what top-level university rugby looks like in Colorado: dat snow
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Apollodorus posted:So in case anyone was wondering, this is what top-level university rugby looks like in Colorado: I played in Arkansas in uni, and we had some days like that. I don't miss that poo poo at all.
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Mar 11, 2014 20:30
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I've played in the snow in the UK. The pitch was a lot clearer than that though.
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Mar 11, 2014 20:31
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I played terrible D3 college rugby and we had one memorable game where the field was covered in an even 4" of snow, so we just went around and cleared all the lines. The result was a bizarro-pitch with green lines and white surface. Also an orange ball. As a bonus, the men's soccer team showed up drunk and heckled our opposition.
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Talking coaches, there is plenty of teeth gnashing over Mark Hammett in my neck of the woods. I don't think he's the problem tbh, he's not the one out there dropping the ball or standing offside. Kirwan is pretty much a puppet on the end of Graham Henry's fist. I hate to say it but i do think NZ has too much an obsession with ex-players coaching rather than skilled organizers who didn't make top level getting a shot. Think John Hart, GH and John Plumtree to an extent.
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Mar 12, 2014 06:52
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Hasn't Tana all but been confirmed as the new Hurricanes coach?
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Tyma posted:Clive Woodward has attributed England's success almost entirely to Rhys Priestland Based on that article he almost definitely posts in this thread.
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Ask Tony Robson, he's sitting outside Hammett's house with binoculars right now.
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elTeddy posted:I hate to say it but i do think NZ has too much an obsession with ex-players coaching rather than skilled organizers who didn't make top level getting a shot. Think John Hart, GH and John Plumtree to an extent. I can't disagree with that. When Todd Blackadder was named coach of the Crusaders some in the press were already crowning him a future All Black coach (Kirwan was met with more skepticism) despite the fact he had not yet proven himself. Rennie had more experience at ITM cup prior to Super Rugby and also was undefeated as the coach of the U20s team yet when he was given the Chiefs role there wasn't the same song and dance. Two years later and he has two titles while Blackadder has none in 4 (or is it 5?) seasons. Now Rennie is being talked about as a potential All Black coach - but he had to prove himself first while Blackadder, as a former All Black, got that hype automatically. Just in case no one got this: My point earlier about Gatland coming back (and using Blackadder and Kirwan as examples of people more likely than him to get the job) wasn't an endorsement of them. I was just painting a picture of where he sits in the pecking order.
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It really is a case of thus as it ever was, and coaches that haven't gone through the system as a player like Graham Henry, Aussie McLean and John Hart are an increasingly rare breed. It's hard not to notice that neither the current All Blacks coach nor his predecessor were All Blacks themselves, but it seems some people who should know better apparently don't. Also, Blackadder succeeding Deans as Crusaders coach didn't really come out of nowhere. His coaching record prior to the Crusaders wasn't particularly flash (he started as Scotland forwards coach when Matt Williams was in charge. Just ask any Scottish rugby fan how great that era was), but when he took on Tasman, he did get them punching above their weight and he was Deans' assistant in the 2008 Super Rugby season. Mark Hammett would be the one who's had a shortest pathway into coaching than others. JK paid his dues in Japan and Italy where he actually had some success, Rennie worked with the age group sides and minor provinces like Manawatu, Jamie Joseph worked his way up the Wellington/Hurricanes system and Blackadder had a baptism of fire taking on the forwards in quite possibly the worst Scottish team ever assembled. edogawa rando fucked around with this message at 07:41 on Mar 13, 2014 |
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-union/26561638 Who picked this Welsh squad, and what have they done with Gatland? 
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Going to an Ospreys meet and greet in a few hours if anyone wants stupid poo poo autographed by people who aren't Dan Biggar. Edit : The chance to get framed photographs of Sam Warburton signed by Ryan Jones has passed! Tyma fucked around with this message at 19:00 on Mar 13, 2014 |
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Pretty much everything that I didn't want France to do,they have done.Picamoles is back in the squad,Remi Tales is at 10,Szarzewski's back from injury,and Gael Fickou is at 12.The Ireland team is unchanged,except for one surprise,which is Ian Madigan replacing Paddy Jackson as the sub out-half.Even as a Leinster fan,it's pretty clear Jackson's an all round better player,and Madigan's in pretty poor form right now. Although,it's funny hearing Munster fans who only a year ago were saying Paddy Jackson was awful after he replaced Ronan O'Gara in the Irish squad now claim his omission is an absolute travesty.Many of them are still bitter over ex-Leinster coach Joe Schmidt replacing ex-Munster coach Declan Kidney as the Irish coach. I really hope Biggar has the sort of performance that will put him ahead of Priestland.He's seriously underrated by a lot of people and deserves a shot.
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Swan Curry posted:Pretty much everything that I didn't want France to do,they have done.Picamoles is back in the squad,Remi Tales is at 10,Szarzewski's back from injury,and Gael Fickou is at 12.The Ireland team is unchanged,except for one surprise,which is Ian Madigan replacing Paddy Jackson as the sub out-half.Even as a Leinster fan,it's pretty clear Jackson's an all round better player,and Madigan's in pretty poor form right now. Biggar's had those performances in the past already though. I fear that under Gatland playing yourself into the starting lineup is just not a thing that happens. He's not one for picking on form really. He has his favourites and that's that. It is encouraging that he has made this many changes, albeit in a now-meaningless game. I was half expecting him to stick two fingers up to the critics and not bother
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Hahah Cruden's 'shot at goal'. When I played on the wing I always tried to signal our kicker to try that play, never knew it wasn't legal.
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I thought Super Rugby was supposed to be the pinnacle of skill and performance. Making Priestland look good here.
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DickEmery posted:I thought Super Rugby was supposed to be the pinnacle of skill and performance. This is a poor Super Rugby game but would probably rank as a MotY candidate up north. edit: hahah making Jean De Villiers accept a signed Chiefs jersey to commemorate his 100th game after they lost is ice cold. Smorgasbord fucked around with this message at 09:29 on Mar 14, 2014 |
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Smorgasbord posted:This is a poor Super Rugby game but would probably rank as a MotY candidate up north. No it wouldn't it was poo poo. You know tackling is allowed yeah? To be honest I think a lot of it was Joubert. For example, in the Crusaders game now they've been pinged for putting hands on the floor past the ball (Walsh loves pinging for this too). Joubert is a-ok with this, never pings for it. It's worrying that the inconsistency of the refs may be starting to gently caress up the SH game too.
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Stephen Ferris made his return tonight,with this being his first action in the match.Hopefully he can keep it up and get into the Ireland squad for the Summer tour.
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So, um, the Hurricans just beat the Cheetahs into the ground. Did anyone see that coming? Because I thought they would win but not like that and not by that margin.
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The yellow card to le Roux was probably the definitive moment in the game. It felt like the floodgates just opened when he was gone. Bullshit call too.
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Swan Curry posted:Stephen Ferris made his return tonight,with this being his first action in the match.Hopefully he can keep it up and get into the Ireland squad for the Summer tour. Was there to see him back in action, that first tackle was a lovely moment for him and the crowd that has waited a long time to see him play again for Ulster. He saw a decent bit of the ball as well, was hoping he'd crash over at the end for a try but Tom Court of all people beat him to it. Would love to see him play his way back into a green jersey.
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The Highlanders just lost against the Force who were down to 13 for the last 10 minutes.
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Cross-posting from the Ireland thread, but if anyone's around Belfast, a bunch of us are going to the Parlour for the annual Day Of Rugby.
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I woke up my fiance on accident but I am totally watching the rugby today.
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