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Sprue flash aside, I had a set of Zocchi dice that I hated because they have no weight to them at all. They're the most unsatisfying dice I've ever rolled.
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In FoW, are the US able to run any decent armoured lists?
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Mar 13, 2014 16:47
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DJ Dizzy posted:In FoW, are the US able to run any decent armoured lists? Forums Terrorist posted:Get thee to Blood, Guts and Glory. Outside of this, most US armor groups can go against the Germans in the same compilations, with varying ease of victory (i.e., Normandy US vs. Normandy Germans). The problem comes up when someone says "Late War" and one guy brings a D-Day/Normandy armored group and someone brings King Tigers. Panthers will always be a thing, though, regardless of when in Late War you play. Or bringing Hermann Goering PIIIs to fight against Easy Eights.
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Anyone here going to LittleWars in IL? I have never been, but am considering popping in for friday-saturday
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The problem with Gamescience is that while all the complaints he brings up are 100% legitimate (and basically why, among other things we invented Casino dice, Asian style dice and the process by which decent quality dice vary hole depth in order to make sure no one side is heavier) his dice don't actually solve these issues. If you wanted to really solve these problems you'd have to make them out of metal and basically use a turning lathe to machine them from blocks of steel. Which, uh, would be pretty awesome, can someone get a kickstarter up for that poo poo?
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YF19pilot posted:Outside of this, most US armor groups can go against the Germans in the same compilations, with varying ease of victory (i.e., Normandy US vs. Normandy Germans). The problem comes up when someone says "Late War" and one guy brings a D-Day/Normandy armored group and someone brings King Tigers. Panthers will always be a thing, though, regardless of when in Late War you play. The manager of my FLGS wants to pit his Desperate Measures rookie Panther company against my German Panzergrenadiers from D-Day. We're talking about a poo poo load of crappy Panthers. How is that for a matchup? He's usually quite a powergamer, so I'm a bit wary about him just wanting to beat the poo poo out of me, and if that's the case I'm not too interested in playing blue-on-blue.
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Depends, is it an Ausbildungs company or a Panzergruppe?
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Forums Terrorist posted:Depends, is it an Ausbildungs company or a Panzergruppe? Dunno. The crappy ones that lets you field 20 (or however many it is).
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Mar 13, 2014 22:08
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In that case if he's bringing a bunch of Panthers he's not bringing much else so just counter with high AT and infantry or lots of cheap tanks.
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TheBlobThing posted:The manager of my FLGS wants to pit his Desperate Measures rookie Panther company against my German Panzergrenadiers from D-Day. We're talking about a poo poo load of crappy Panthers. How is that for a matchup? He's usually quite a powergamer, so I'm a bit wary about him just wanting to beat the poo poo out of me, and if that's the case I'm not too interested in playing blue-on-blue. You may be able to go full CV German and just dig in, forcing him into 16"/assault range so you can chew his Panthers up. If you take 21st, you can also bring a Firefly just to piss him off. Just be sure to bring high AT, and have a fall back for if he takes out all of your PaKs/88s. He sounds like the manger of my FLGS, who always takes the big heavy Russian tanks. I played a game against him, US engineers (very infantry heavy, no armor support), and I literally could not do anything to his tanks. Just sit there and wait for him to whittle me down with MG fire (because he's not going to try and cross that river to assault my guys). Also glad I didn't play MW last week, because he ended up pulling the same thing (KV-1 list I think?), where everyone brought armies from North Africa. Not a lot the DAK or Dessert Rats can bring against that.
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Russian heavy tank lists are a lot less hitler than Germans though because IS-2s are garbage.
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Forums Terrorist posted:Russian heavy tank lists are a lot less hitler than Germans though because IS-2s are garbage. They're a lot more Stalin, though.
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YF19pilot posted:You may be able to go full CV German and just dig in, forcing him into 16"/assault range so you can chew his Panthers up. If you take 21st, you can also bring a Firefly just to piss him off. Just be sure to bring high AT, and have a fall back for if he takes out all of your PaKs/88s. Thanks for the advice. I have 2 88's, 3 Pak40's (though they're not much use against his front armour I think) and a Firefly, but only 2 platoons of Grenadiers. Other than that, I have a poo poo-load of PzIV's, but I think they'll have a tough time flanking him if he got boat-loads of Panthers. I have a huge tournament coming up in 2 weeks though, so I need the practice. Unfortunately, I need the practice with the company I haven't finished yet. 
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TheBlobThing posted:Thanks for the advice. I have 2 88's, 3 Pak40's (though they're not much use against his front armour I think) and a Firefly, but only 2 platoons of Grenadiers. Other than that, I have a poo poo-load of PzIV's, but I think they'll have a tough time flanking him if he got boat-loads of Panthers. What point level are you playing at? I've been looking into playing CT panthers myself and at 1650 you can't get more than 8 Panthers without seriously compromising your ability to deal with anything that isn't tanks. Do you have Nebs? Mortars? Drop smoke on his Panthers every turn and laugh at him. Buy every Panzerfaust and Panzersherk you can. Look into Panzer Lehr. They are some serious anti-tank "gently caress YUR TANK" mechanized infantry (you don't need halftracks). If it really is tournament practice then put a time limit of 2.5 hours on the game. Watch him sweat as he realizes he's never going to dig you out with MGs before the time limit is up.
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You all are making me think I should finally paint my multitudes of little soviet mans I've had sitting around forever. Also I totally want to go out and buy a slew of 6mm Napoleonics. The trouble with that is that I only have this broad idea of the period and I know I like it without knowing any of the actual details of armies or battles.
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Slowly finishing the bases on my second Canadian platoon. Those plastic rubble bases from Battlefront are pretty sweet:
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CNN Sports Ticker posted:You all are making me think I should finally paint my multitudes of little soviet mans I've had sitting around forever. Its a great fun period to research plus theres loads if info online. At 6mm you also dont need ot worry massively about all the compelxities of facings etc Bear in mind the Napoleonic Wars spanned a long time and lots of theatres. My suggestion would be that seeing as its 6mm you don have to worry massively, but obviously you are going to need French. Then decide what theatre you want- Russia, Austria, the Peninsular, Waterloo etc? My tip would be Peninsular- everyone wants to paint red coats right? Plus if you are going to play and use Black Powder theres a fantastic supplement out for it that covers this theatre and has lots of info. Plus you can throw in Spanish and Portuguese for variety if that grabs you. http://store.warlordgames.com/collections/black-powder/books Heres a link to my 6mm project thats a few years old now- ive sincecne sold them all off because when i moved to Black Powder I found my basing convention wasnt that great for it, so Im buying them all again to start over. Madness I know. http://serotonins.blogspot.co.uk/search/label/Napoleonics Serotonin fucked around with this message at 15:37 on Mar 15, 2014 |
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TheBlobThing posted:The manager of my FLGS wants to pit his Desperate Measures rookie Panther company against my German Panzergrenadiers from D-Day. We're talking about a poo poo load of crappy Panthers. How is that for a matchup? He's usually quite a powergamer, so I'm a bit wary about him just wanting to beat the poo poo out of me, and if that's the case I'm not too interested in playing blue-on-blue. Facing off against Panthers as infantry can be better than facing panzer IVs or stugs. Panthers don't get shurzen, their extra AT won't help much against infantry, and their side armor isn't that hot. Panthers are awesome against medium tanks. Do you have a king tiger? That might be a nice support choice for your infantry if you know you're facing panthers. Arty works too. Panthers only have top armor 1. humannature fucked around with this message at 04:22 on Mar 16, 2014 |
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Just dropped $100 on the Italian compilation, Italian battles, and some paint. I'm happy to see I can take Easy Eights in Italy, I like the reduction in points for the FDC (only 15 points!), and I'm happy to have an "officially official" Italian list in LW. Also, HG PzIIIs. But now I want to build a Polish armored division, dismounted cavalry, a Tiger company, a French company, and of course, Italians.humannature posted:Facing off against Panthers as infantry can be better than facing panzer IVs or stugs. Panthers don't get shurzen, their extra AT won't help much against infantry, and their side armor isn't that hot. Panthers are awesome are against medium tanks. Do you have a king tiger? That might be a nice support choice for your infantry if you know you're facing panthers. Arty works too. Panthers only have top armor 1. If he's running D-day, access to King Tigers are limited, and the ones you can take are the Porsche turret models. But, regular Tiger Is are everywhere in that book.
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Serotonin posted:Its a great fun period to research plus theres loads if info online. At 6mm you also dont need ot worry massively about all the compelxities of facings etc I've been thinking I need to alter my approach, coming from more GW style wargames, and instead of thinking about army lists and stuff I should look at specific battles and campaigns I want to recreate. I think I'm interested in doing Russia, just because I'm always attracted to Russian armies (hence the soviets in Flames and hence being a Khador fan in Warmachine). I'm also interested, as an extension of that, in checking out the Russo-Turkish war.
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Serotonin, I was going to just ask you to talk more about Napoleonic stuff but then you posted your blog so I'll check that out. Can someone who knows German paratrooper weaponry tell me what these are? 
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The one in front is a 2.8cm schwere Panzerbuchse, a light squeezebore AT gun.
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moths posted:Serotonin, I was going to just ask you to talk more about Napoleonic stuff but then you posted your blog so I'll check that out. 8.8 cm Flak AA guns, I think. Fallschirmjaeger issue. E: Nevermind, not 8.8 I'm retarded.
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I think specifically I want to get together the forces to play the Battle of Borodino.
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CNN Sports Ticker posted:I think specifically I want to get together the forces to play the Battle of Borodino. You sound like I do when I first started. I wanted to be able to refight Wagram when I bought my first 6mms from Baccus, but I quickly discovered that even if you make many compromises (fudging the scale, merging units, playing with the schedule of the battle, simplifying the battlefield, etc), it's still a substantial task to be sure! Maybe better would be to research Borodino closely and find the parts of the action you really like, and start with microcosms of the overall battle first. You may find, half way through, that though you love Russians, that you'd actually rather focus on the pre-Leipzig actions during the Sixth Coalition, or Austerlitz, or the Six Days in February, etc. I've found, especially in Napoleonics, it's best to start by thinking small and modular, and build from there. Lest you turn out like Mike, who I followed and was inspired to attempt to emulate with my own Wagram journey (until he fell off the face of the earth!). It's one thing to dream big, and another thing entirely to execute! E: also don't forget, you need to figure out how you'll be basing your dudes, what scale you'll play at, a set of rules... all the way down the rabbit hole
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Sokrateez posted:You sound like I do when I first started. I wanted to be able to refight Wagram when I bought my first 6mms from Baccus, but I quickly discovered that even if you make many compromises (fudging the scale, merging units, playing with the schedule of the battle, simplifying the battlefield, etc), it's still a substantial task to be sure! Maybe better would be to research Borodino closely and find the parts of the action you really like, and start with microcosms of the overall battle first. You may find, half way through, that though you love Russians, that you'd actually rather focus on the pre-Leipzig actions during the Sixth Coalition, or Austerlitz, or the Six Days in February, etc. This is all good advice! I definitely have to do some more research. I've got Wikipedia and I've got some osprey pdfs but are there any other good introductory resources? I'm going to be using Black Powder, which I have already. I like the style of it and the non-competitive emphasis.
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Bought a kit of Battlefront's new plastic P.IVHs last night. No Golden Panzer, so I won't be going to the chocolate factory. I'm liking it so far. Certainly makes the Shermans in the Open Fire! set look like a hack job (or at least my attempt to put them together). I'm not as big a tank buff as some of you guys, but did the PIV grow in size through it's iterations? I have a Zvezda PIVD and it is noticeably smaller than both the new plastic and old resin PIVHs that I have from Battlefront. I have a BF PIVD in a blister, but not put together yet. Otherwise, the plastic and resin seem to be pretty spot on with each other for scale.
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YF19pilot posted:Bought a kit of Battlefront's new plastic P.IVHs last night. No Golden Panzer, so I won't be going to the chocolate factory. I'm liking it so far. Certainly makes the Shermans in the Open Fire! set look like a hack job (or at least my attempt to put them together). I'm not as big a tank buff as some of you guys, but did the PIV grow in size through it's iterations? I have a Zvezda PIVD and it is noticeably smaller than both the new plastic and old resin PIVHs that I have from Battlefront. I have a BF PIVD in a blister, but not put together yet. Otherwise, the plastic and resin seem to be pretty spot on with each other for scale. No it didn't, those are just measurement/scaling differences between manufacturers. It had varying levels of extra applique and integral armour over versions but they should be difficult to notice at 15mm
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YF19pilot posted:Just dropped $100 on the Italian compilation, Italian battles, and some paint. I'm happy to see I can take Easy Eights in Italy, I like the reduction in points for the FDC (only 15 points!), and I'm happy to have an "officially official" Italian list in LW. Also, HG PzIIIs. But now I want to build a Polish armored division, dismounted cavalry, a Tiger company, a French company, and of course, Italians. What do the options for the US Tank company look like? Competitive at all with Blood, Guts, and Glory?
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Acebuckeye13 posted:What do the options for the US Tank company look like? Competitive at all with Blood, Guts, and Glory? Different, for sure. The 1st AD is the only list, and you can't take Jumbos, you can't equip your HQ with Easy Eights or 76mm tanks. You can take a 76mm tank platoon with either M4A1 76mm (late) or M4A3 76mm (late) as options (AT 13), but you can take this as a Combat platoon rather than a support platoon. Otherwise, upgrade all to M4A3s and/or two tanks to M4A3 76mm or M4A3E8 Easy Eights. There is no option to mix in 105s, those are in their own support platoon. You can take Chaffees for light tank support as a Weapons Platoon, which you can't get in BG&G. Unfortunately there are no M36 Jacksons in the book, period. You can get "late" M10s and M18s, which have the 3" gun with AT13 vs. AT12. I've never really run Jumbos, but I've only really been running the newest American armor for the past month or so. I don't think I'll miss the Jumbo, but a few of the guys I play with more or less depend on the Jumbo to get through a fight. (I try to stick to cover and flank and feel the Jumbo would just slow me down). So, depending on how much you rely on the Jumbo, you may find yourself needing to rethink the fight. It won't affect my style too much, but one player has already written it off because of how much he uses Jumbos. Or you can go British and mix and match 76mms with Fireflies.
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Or go Market Garden British Armoured and get 2 Fireflies in every platoon 
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YF19pilot posted:Different, for sure. The 1st AD is the only list, and you can't take Jumbos, you can't equip your HQ with Easy Eights or 76mm tanks. You can take a 76mm tank platoon with either M4A1 76mm (late) or M4A3 76mm (late) as options (AT 13), but you can take this as a Combat platoon rather than a support platoon. Otherwise, upgrade all to M4A3s and/or two tanks to M4A3 76mm or M4A3E8 Easy Eights. There is no option to mix in 105s, those are in their own support platoon. Huh, that's pretty interesting. I'd have to look at the full list and options, but the ability to take full 76mm gun platoons and Chaffees is pretty tempting, to say the least.
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My friends and I are thinking of trying to prepare some rules for a skirmish-like game for ancient Latin American cultures/Spanish conquest. Has this setting been used before? or something similar?
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Without a doubt someone will have done it. There's miniatures out there for it So people must play the era. Maybe have a look on TMP and see. EDIT I had a thought that Saga would be perfect for this and loo and behold, a fan made project that seems to fit the bill http://saga-variants.47706.x6.nabble.com/A-Mesoamerican-Saga-f3.html Serotonin fucked around with this message at 08:01 on Mar 17, 2014 |
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NTRabbit posted:The back one might be a Gebirgsflak 38, which was a lightened version of the standard 2cm AA gun built as a dual purpose support weapon for paratroops, but it's hard to tell.  No idea what it is. The 7.5 cm Leichtgeschütz 40 comes to mind but the model doesn't have the fat, short barrel and lies too low to the ground. What company does those models?
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It's a 8.8 cm Raketenwerfer 43, which was a Nazi AT gun that shot rockets (technically RPG's). German troops hated them because they were much bulkier than other infantry AT options but they were much much more accurate (more accurate than most allied guns of similar use) and much less prone to failure since they didn't have piles of moving parts (being pretty much a rocket tube). But then they weren't as effective as the infantry gun that was literally a missile tube. They were extremely rare and saw very limited field use so it's an odd choice to include in a range of models.
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I guess I'm not as big of a German crew served weapon sperg as I thought  Also, if anyone is as terrible at freehand logo/emblem painting as I am I got the guys behind this to add some WW2 stencils to their line, specifically the two Balkenkreuz, the US Army stars and the slightly less historical Soviet ones
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