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Irish Joe posted:Which is..? None of your business.
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That South Park episode also got the South Park guys in trouble for ripping off a College Humor sketch. Creative endeavors often involve a lot of parallel thinking. There's a good Cracked podcast that delves into this by explaining why it's actually pretty reasonable that three people cooked up Harry Potter-like stories at the same time. Also, shut the gently caress up about it, you loving sperglords. Jesus, just drain the fun out of everything why don't you.
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Mar 12, 2014 23:53
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LeJackal posted:None of your business. Then don't bring it up, idiot.
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Mar 12, 2014 23:55
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quote:Yeah, and we can't even do a story fueled by that frustration because South Park already did a story fueled by their frustration of being in The Simpsons' hundred-year shadow.
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Mar 12, 2014 23:55
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Irish Joe posted:Then don't bring it up, idiot. No problem, rear end in a top hat.
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Mar 12, 2014 23:57
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drat, i love this show. I think its good.
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Mar 13, 2014 00:00
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LeJackal posted:Those jokes were done before, so it must be boring garbage. Where?
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Depths posted:drat, i love this show. I think its good. It's the best. Now that True Dick is over. 
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Mar 13, 2014 00:05
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In other less obnoxious news that AMA Harmon/Roiland did they specifically mentioned this past episode as being a pretty fun less dark episode compared to some of the others coming up. So strap in. Or on, you know whatever works for you.
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Mar 13, 2014 00:33
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Typical posted:Been waiting almost a year for this, I'm going to keep an eye out for this every episode now- just because I can.
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Mar 13, 2014 00:43
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All the drama over the last episode seems to stem from a simple misunderstanding and/or standard Internet hyperbole. Some people thought Rick and Summer's story was an uninspired take on an old story. Fair enough. Futurama used the same basic premise (kind of...) at one point, and since there are superficial similarities between the two shows, the people who didn't like the episode accused it of being an exact copy of Amazon Women in the Mood, which obviously isn't the case.
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Mar 13, 2014 00:52
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Sakarja posted:All the drama over the last episode seems to stem from a simple misunderstanding and/or standard Internet hyperbole. Nope. The simple misunderstanding is that humour is subjective. (And Standard Internet Hyperbole.)
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Mar 13, 2014 00:56
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Pixelante posted:Nope. The simple misunderstanding is that humour is subjective. (And Standard Internet Hyperbole.) Either you're missing the point or I am. Saying that the last episode was boring or whatever is one thing. Maybe it was an unimaginative take on an old story. That's subjective and it'd be silly to say that you're wrong or whatever. Like, everybody's entitled to their opinion. But saying that the episode or the jokes were exactly the same as Amazon Women in the Mood is objectively wrong. On the Internet. And making that assertion just to escape accusations of tumblerism would be extremely silly.
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Mar 13, 2014 01:25
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CelticPredator posted:Those are Justin's words, not mine. I know, was just saying that these guys are really talented and did a really good Inception thing that I would put way above the South Park ep.
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Mar 13, 2014 01:41
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Sakarja posted:All the drama over the last episode seems to stem from a simple misunderstanding and/or standard Internet hyperbole. Some people thought Rick and Summer's story was an uninspired take on an old story. Fair enough. Futurama used the same basic premise (kind of...) at one point, and since there are superficial similarities between the two shows, the people who didn't like the episode accused it of being an exact copy of Amazon Women in the Mood, which obviously isn't the case. You are correct. The concept goes much further back in TV than Futurama. Likely before Gilligan's Island or even The Twilight Zone, and yet further if you want to include radio broadcasts in the pre-TV days. Not to mention books.
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Mar 13, 2014 01:42
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MariusLecter posted:I know, was just saying that these guys are really talented and did a really good Inception thing that I would put way above the South Park ep. I would too. The best part about the South Park one was the Freddy gag at the end. The rest was generic Inception parody stuff.
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Mar 13, 2014 01:46
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JediTalentAgent posted:Maybe it's just me, but this is the second really polarizing episode and also the second one where Rick does a goofy catchphrase and breaks the fourth wall, isn't it? I don't know if that warrants guessing that there's a writers' room discussion over the plots and someone saying, "Just have Rick say something goofy and address the audience as an acknowledgement that controversial elements of this episode were not to be taken seriously." I now like to think that Rick from the show and Rick from the commercials are the same person. He knows he's on a TV show, is the main character and therefore cannot die and thus simply does not give a poo poo about anything that happens around him.
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I think the South Park guys admitted that they hadn't even seen Inception before doing the episode, and had just read some dumb guy's review who thought it was over-complicated for the sake of complexity. That makes sense to me as usually South Park is much more accurate and insightful with the things they parody. Even when they're not super amazing they'll make some jokes that give evidence they have a detailed understanding of what they're making jokes about. Like the Game of Thrones episodes had Cartman being a wizard king, something that's not in the books at all, but also had a lot of stuff right like waiting for the books being like a diabetic waiting to get food and GRRM continually putting off giving it to him.
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Mar 13, 2014 02:07
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Sakarja posted:Either you're missing the point or I am. Saying that the last episode was boring or whatever is one thing. Maybe it was an unimaginative take on an old story. That's subjective and it'd be silly to say that you're wrong or whatever. Like, everybody's entitled to their opinion. But saying that the episode or the jokes were exactly the same as Amazon Women in the Mood is objectively wrong. On the Internet. And making that assertion just to escape accusations of tumblerism would be extremely silly. This is exactly the point, thank you.
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Metropolis posted:I think the South Park guys admitted that they hadn't even seen Inception before doing the episode, and had just read some dumb guy's review who thought it was over-complicated for the sake of complexity. That makes sense to me as usually South Park is much more accurate and insightful with the things they parody. Even when they're not super amazing they'll make some jokes that give evidence they have a detailed understanding of what they're making jokes about. Like the Game of Thrones episodes had Cartman being a wizard king, something that's not in the books at all, but also had a lot of stuff right like waiting for the books being like a diabetic waiting to get food and GRRM continually putting off giving it to him. One of them had seen it and the other hadn't, they couldn't get a copy of the movie, so they basically watched the College Humor thing and one told the other that's exactly what the movie was, and the lines got blurred between what was actually in the movie and what was CH parody. And their costumes from the Game of Thrones was a throwback to the Lord of the Rings episode. But I digress. I liked the episode, it just didn't seem to have that Rick & Morty uniqueness we've become accustomed to. At least not until the very end with the Marmaduke guy and Morty Jr. writing the book. I guess I was expecting a little bit more out of the first Rick & Summer adventure, even one on a woman dominant planet, than pretty typical women jokes. Which aren't even being misogynistic (no more than men being farting barbarians anyway,) as much as they are being typical. I mean, if it was a planet full of cats, obviously you'd expect the classic cat qualities to be exemplified. A store that only sells yarn, giant dangling mice in the city square, restaurants with nothing but fish (and one of the patrons asking if he can have a cheeseburger instead,) etc. I guess with how Rick & Morty has been so far, you'd expect something a little more atypical. A bunch of cats playing water polo randomly, Morty pointing out how that doesn't make sense, and the cats scolding him for making assumptions. Something like that.
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Sakarja posted:Either you're missing the point or I am. Saying that the last episode was boring or whatever is one thing. Maybe it was an unimaginative take on an old story. That's subjective and it'd be silly to say that you're wrong or whatever. Like, everybody's entitled to their opinion. But saying that the episode or the jokes were exactly the same as Amazon Women in the Mood is objectively wrong. On the Internet. And making that assertion just to escape accusations of tumblerism would be extremely silly. Big Ink posted:You are correct. The concept goes much further back in TV than Futurama. Likely before Gilligan's Island or even The Twilight Zone, and yet further if you want to include radio broadcasts in the pre-TV days. Not to mention books. In fact the title of the Futurama episode Amazon Women in the Mood is a reference to an old John Landis movie which was parodying old 1950s scifi movies which often had alien societies split by gender and ruled by women, like Queen of Outer Space.
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OmegaBR posted:But I digress. I liked the episode, it just didn't seem to have that Rick & Morty uniqueness we've become accustomed to. At least not until the very end with the Marmaduke guy and Morty Jr. writing the book. All I could think of with that scene was Stan Lee in Mallrats, and Hugh Hefner with Brian in Family Guy. It was still funnier than either of those, though.
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I don't remember that South Park episode, I'll watch it when I get a chance. What other big name shows did an Inception episode around that time? Any worth watching?LeJackal posted:This is exactly the point, thank you. Before you got a rage-boner I don't see where anyone said is was exactly like Futurama until you started autistically sperglording over your misunderstanding about people saying certain scenes had a 'been done before' feeling to it. Maybe the scene resolved differently, but the jokes felt familiar and blase. It felt like it, it tread similar ground, it felt samey and some jokes elicited a feeling of deja-vu, but no one came out and said it copied what Futurama did until you confused me or someone else into exasperatingly hardlining down a path because you took a psych of women's class back in '03 that you vaguely remember. You were so intent on proving an imagined thing wrong that your frothing prevented you from understanding the point, which was that it was I'm glad it sounds like you do now, though. So next time both read better and frame your words better.
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Drifter posted:Before you got a rage-boner I don't see where anyone said is was exactly like Futurama..... You need to read your own posts. Drifter posted:The jokes are exactly the same, but I'm sorry pointing that out ......
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:In fact the title of the Futurama episode Amazon Women in the Mood is a reference to an old John Landis movie which was parodying old 1950s scifi movies which often had alien societies split by gender and ruled by women, like Queen of Outer Space. 1950s movies that probably got their plots from old radio serials which came from pulp comics and so on and so forth until you get back to Greek goddamn myth. I swear, it sounds like some of you actually think Futurama invented the idea.
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Okay so before this show was out I watched the trailer and the flash cartoon and was thoroughly unimpressed but after hearing nothing but good reviews I've decided to check it out and yeah, ok, this show is amazing.
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Rick in the loving Episode posted:Oh, I get it. The old behind-every-great-man Amazon twist. Roiland and Harmon know it's a cliche, guys. They're not stupid.
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Mar 13, 2014 08:56
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The flying loving Zardoz head. This show.
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OmegaBR posted:I mean, if it was a planet full of cats, obviously you'd expect the classic cat qualities to be exemplified. A store that only sells yarn, giant dangling mice in the city square, restaurants with nothing but fish (and one of the patrons asking if he can have a cheeseburger instead,) etc. I guess with how Rick & Morty has been so far, you'd expect something a little more atypical. A bunch of cats playing water polo randomly, Morty pointing out how that doesn't make sense, and the cats scolding him for making assumptions. Something like that. It felt like in this situation he was sort of scolding/teaching the all-powerful woman/Summer for making the same assumptions about all males that they accused all males of making about them. Don't become what you dislike/hate etc. I'm not sure if that's what you're looking for though. HppyCmpr fucked around with this message at 09:32 on Mar 13, 2014 |
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Max22 posted:Roiland and Harmon know it's a cliche, guys. They're not stupid. Knowing it's cliched doesn't make the scenes less lazy and uninspired because they did nothing new or subversive with the cliche, it seriously doesn't require some burning need to fight for tumblrite "social justice" to be of the opinion the whole section inside the Zardoz head wasn't up to the standard of the rest of the episode/series. The biggest problem for this episode however is that the two preceeding episodes "love potion #9" and "Meeseks and destroy" were both stellar, then the hiatus left us anticipating more greatness and the episode is only pretty good.
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Puntification posted:Knowing it's cliched doesn't make the scenes less lazy and uninspired because they did nothing new or subversive with the cliche, The fact that they turned the resolution arc on its head is totally insignificant. 
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LeJackal posted:The fact that they turned the resolution arc on its head is totally insignificant. :tolleyes: I unironically agree with that statement. You would have better luck arguing it was an intentional parody of how badly cartoons and scifi tend to deal with these issues.
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Puntification posted:I unironically agree with that statement. You would have better luck arguing it was an intentional parody of how badly cartoons and scifi tend to deal with these issues. No! Stop interrupting. The boulder will then fall on a lever...
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How many more episodes will we get this first season? I'm totally psyched to watch them all. Will there be any more breaks and stuff in between them?LeJackal posted:You need to read your own posts. Only if you read the rest of my sentence.
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There are four more episodes left this season.
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Drifter posted:Only if you read the rest of my sentence. Then I'll be the only one of us two to actually read your posts. Drifter posted:The jokes are exactly the same, but I'm sorry pointing that out apparently has to come with a trigger warning or something. Here you go, anyway. I don't see how the rest of the sentence alters the meaning of the first part, besides implying a personal insult.
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Drifter posted:How many more episodes will we get this first season? I'm totally psyched to watch them all. Will there be any more breaks and stuff in between them? If there are any less than 100 times Rick and Morty I'm gonna be disappointed.
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Just read the last few pages of this thread and holy poo poo LeJackal, please stop
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LeJackal posted:Then I'll be the only one of us two to actually read your posts. Oh my god, dude. Shut the gently caress up. You've been at this for two days.
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