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Awesome! posted:seriouspost: can they line the cockpit with Pilots accomplish the same thing through referencing their artificial horizon, and their turn coordinator. These two instruments are driven by gimbals or gyros and can usually function on only emergency power, but in a glass cockpit such as the 777, the main versions of these instruments will be digitally displayed and receive their data from the computer.
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Fallom posted:There are many documented instances of pilots dealing with pitot tube failure. In those cases the pilots notice that the autopilot and instrumentation stopped working and take their hands off the controls because the plane isn't magically going to go into a dive if it's been cruising. Well to be fair, it isn't like aircraft can't have sudden failures that can send a plane into a dive from a cruise, so if your instruments are suddenly telling you that this is happening, it's easy to think it is happening. Also airline pilots work absolutely insane hours and fatigue is a very common problem in the industry, so they might not completely think things through.
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http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/malaysia-airlines-flight-mh370-pentagon-3238713 Evidently the US Navy has it on some sort of authority that the plane is in the Indian Ocean, maybe.
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The Casualty posted:http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/malaysia-airlines-flight-mh370-pentagon-3238713 Sooo what did the oil rig people see then? It's not like there are burning planes falling out of the sky every day. Unless the lizard terrorists created an exact copy of the plane, crashed that on the original site of contact loss, and then flew the REAL plane to their secret volcano base.
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Rad Russian posted:Sooo what did the oil rig people see then? It was the ghost of twa 800
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Awesome! posted:seriouspost: can they line the cockpit with Bits of string and bluetack. Attach strings to the roof,floor and windscreen so you can tell if your nose is up or down. The string on the floor would show you if you were inverted.
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Rad Russian posted:Sooo what did the oil rig people see then? It's not like there are burning planes falling out of the sky every day. I've been on the open ocean and seen pretty bright meteroites before. It could also be that the guy is making poo poo up. The only way to find out for sure is to find the drat plane, and I think at this point the seachers are just leaving no stone unturned.
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JamesieAB posted:Bits of string and bluetack. Attach strings to the roof,floor and windscreen so you can tell if your nose is up or down. The string on the floor would show you if you were inverted. Yeah what about hanging a plumbob off the cockpit ceiling?
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All perfectly viable analog backup solutions in my mind
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get a piece of string. hold it loose in your hand. now hold your arm out straight and run. tell me what happens to the string, genius.
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Former FBI assistant director on CNN said that the plane continued to fly after the transponder was turned off and has landed somewhere, and is possibly being repurposed for some "dastardly deed down the road". He sounded so sure of it too. I tend to think that maybe the flight data they are getting might not be all that reliable and maybe not share your theories yet on CNN, but this guy apparently did the TWA 800 investigation.
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Skipjack posted:get a piece of string. hold it loose in your hand. now hold your arm out straight and run. tell me what happens to the string, genius. I dunno, what does it do?
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JamesieAB posted:Bits of string and bluetack. Attach strings to the roof,floor and windscreen so you can tell if your nose is up or down. The string on the floor would show you if you were inverted. This doesn't make a drat lick of sense. The plane is going a hundred+ miles an hour. That string is going to go all over the cockpit as soon as they get up to speed. The only thing that can withstand those speeds is going to have to be way more durable. Its like that question, If you are in your car driving at 50 miles per hour, and a fly is in your car with you flying from the back of the car to the front, it is obviously going faster than 50 miles per hour, usually in excess of 60 or 70 miles per hour. Those things are drat fast.
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Rusty posted:Former FBI assistant director on CNN said that the plane continued to fly after the transponder was turned off and has landed somewhere, and is possibly being repurposed for some "dastardly deed down the road". He sounded so sure of it too. I tend to think that maybe the flight data they are getting might not be all that reliable and maybe not share your theories yet on CNN, but this guy apparently did the TWA 800 investigation. I really can't see this being a thing. If the plane was really hijacked, we'd have surely heard about it from a passenger before the plane disappeared. Even ignoring that, if it was really hijacked to be used later, they'd have to hide and refuel a big-rear end plane, and in no way do I believe even the most connected of terrorist groups could possibly do that without being found out. I'm going to stick to my gradual decompression theory.
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Skipjack posted:get a piece of string. hold it loose in your hand. now hold your arm out straight and run. tell me what happens to the string, genius. i think the plane takes off because its tires are moving at takeoff speed
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Rhonyn Peacemaker posted:That string is going to go all over the cockpit as soon as they get up to speed. The only thing that can withstand those speeds is going to have to be way more durable. I fell asleep a lot in physics class too but this is still pretty embarrassing.
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Skipjack posted:get a piece of string. hold it loose in your hand. now hold your arm out straight and run. tell me what happens to the string, genius. Is this one of those trick questions like asking if an airplane on a conveyor belt can take off? Obviously things like this can't be proven in any scientific setting so we just have to imagine what will happen. Dunno about you but my imagination is pretty good.
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Skipjack posted:get a piece of string. hold it loose in your hand. now hold your arm out straight and run. tell me what happens to the string, genius. I can't tell who is fakeposting any more, but I don't think you are...
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kindermord posted:if that wsj report is accurate i would be kind of nervous in any major western cities or tel aviv or seoul why would they be nervous in tel aviv do they think the plane is likely to land there and be full of non-white people
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FullLeatherJacket posted:why would they be nervous in tel aviv don't want another sterilization scandal on their hands.
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Rusty posted:Former FBI assistant director on CNN said that the plane continued to fly after the transponder was turned off and has landed somewhere, and is possibly being repurposed for some "dastardly deed down the road". He sounded so sure of it too. I tend to think that maybe the flight data they are getting might not be all that reliable and maybe not share your theories yet on CNN, but this guy apparently did the TWA 800 investigation. Anyone with 'Former governmental job' onto talk about a current foreign crisis is always a paid lobbyist shill for said former governmental group. So stop believing them America, they are there to FUD you into giving them more tax dollars. Always.
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skipjack wtf does the string do dude
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texasmed posted:Also hard to believe that I missed a chance at infamy when I was working on the ramp at my local airport, and I could have brought down a plane with a piece of bubble gum in the correct pitot tube. I'm pretty sure there was one major airliner (Birgenair 301) that was likely brought down because a wasp nested in one of the pitot tubes. Ironically, that was the opposite of the Air France crash - the pilots ignored it and flew normally, then they put on the autopilot, which immediately poo poo itself due to the faulty data and slammed the plane into the ocean.
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maybe now it's a roaming rape gang flying through the airs looking for victims
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I overthunk it. You could just have the one bit of string on the ceiling, it would show your attitude and if lying in a pile would show you were inverted. A much cheaper solution, smaller airlines could get away with a single pack of bluetack and one roll of string.
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The plane will show up on April 1st
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Elphiem posted:The plane will show up on April 1st It will be covered in lolcats and part of Virgin's new low fare asian fleet.
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midnightclimax posted:It will be covered in lolcats and part of Virgin's new low fare asian fleet. Nyanjet will descend from the heavens, trailing a sparkling rainbow, right into the Ganges, which it shall purify with cuteness and flaming jet fuel.
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I like this theory best
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BadLlama posted:skipjack wtf does the string do dude as you speed up, the string inclines. since pilots generally increase throttle as they climb, having a piece of string dangling around isn't going to clarify much.
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happyhippy posted:Anyone with 'Former governmental job' onto talk about a current foreign crisis is always a paid lobbyist shill for said former governmental group. Heard the WSJ reporter covering this on NPR he said he same thing. Apparently somehow there is satellite data of some sort showing that the plane kept on flying several hours after the transponder was turned off. Couple that with the Rolls Royce story and it makes a compelling case. Don't know if they landed though. Vladimir Putin fucked around with this message at 00:05 on Mar 14, 2014 |
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The Casualty posted:Nyanjet will descend from the heavens, trailing a sparkling rainbow, right into the Ganges, which it shall purify with cuteness and flaming jet fuel. i second this
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Rad Russian posted:Sooo what did the oil rig people see then? It's not like there are burning planes falling out of the sky every day. Crisis actors.
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Malaysia Air flight 370: A Practical Guide on String Theory
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At some point somebody's gonna look up what a yaw string is and poo poo themselves
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Malaysian Airlines Expands Investigation To Include General Scope Of Space, Time ‘Why Are We Even Here?’ Officials Probe 
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I bet the last century's worth of aviation engineers are kicking themselves for not thinking up the bit of string in the cockpit invention. All those lives that could have been saved. 
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