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Red: Apr 15, 2003; Yeah, great at getting us into Wawa.

Helsing posted:

I really enjoyed this movie when it came out in theatres. Its basically Robocop or Batman meets Die Hard. It's also so refreshing to have a sci fi or super hero movie that is just a 'Day in the Life' plot rather than an origin story or a 'save the world' story.

That having been said, there were some problems with how the movie was executed. It never really feels like Dredd is threatened and as a result the stakes in the action scenes are kind of low. The glittery slow motion effects seem like they kind of mask how banal a lot of the action actually is. Every scene pretty much amounts to Dredd walking in and blowing everybody away with his gun.

There also wasn't much in the way of a climax. Sure the 'bad judges' show up at the end but they have basically zero characterization and are dispatched quickly. The movie just sort of starts, works to its logical conclusion, and then ends. Dredd barely seems to break a sweat.

In a way that almost makes the movie more charming. This really just feels like a regular day for the protagonist, as though this is the kind of thing he does all the time and isn't a big deal to him. That's a nice contrast to every other post-Dark Knight super hero movie. Also the ambiance of the setting - the sense of desolation and desperation, the relentless brutality of Dredd's world and of everyone in it, including the heroes - certainly helps to keep the movie interesting. Still, I wouldn't have minded a bit more tension in the last twenty minutes of the film, if not for Dredd then at least for Anderson. And it would have been nice if the 'boss fight' at the end was someone who had been introduced and built up a bit more early in the film, rather than four underwhelming characters who only show up about ten minutes before they are killed.

If being shot by a fellow officer, and saved by your rookie partner, whom you assumed was dead, is 'barely breaking a sweat', then I'd hate to see what Dredd needs to do to have a bad day.

# ? Mar 11, 2014 18:11

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# ? May 29, 2024 18:23

OXBALLS DOT COM: Sep 11, 2005; by FactsAreUseless; Young Orc

Red posted:

If being shot by a fellow officer, and saved by your rookie partner, whom you assumed was dead, is 'barely breaking a sweat', then I'd hate to see what Dredd needs to do to have a bad day.

Widespread civil unrest, thermonuclear war, or evil ghosts from another dimension.

# ? Mar 11, 2014 18:13

PleasantDilemma: Dec 5, 2006; The Last Hope for Peace

Helsing posted:

This really just feels like a regular day for the protagonist, as though this is the kind of thing he does all the time and isn't a big deal to him.

I also thought this when Dredd first encountered the other Judge and figured out he was an enemy after a few seconds. It made it seem like Dredd often has to deal with corrupt cops coming to kill him, perhaps on a weekly basis. He doesn't even mention later to the Judge Boss-Lady that he had a firefight with fellow judges. Just one more insight into the violent crazy world that Dredd has to live in.

# ? Mar 11, 2014 18:16

Baron Bifford: May 24, 2006; Can't post for 2 years!

Helsing posted:

In a way that almost makes the movie more charming. This really just feels like a regular day for the protagonist, as though this is the kind of thing he does all the time and isn't a big deal to him. That's a nice contrast to every other post-Dark Knight super hero movie.

Having read some 2000AD books, I wouldn't call it just another working day for Dredd. It's just that Dredd always has a fairly flat reaction to everything. Sometimes I think the reason they never draw him with his helmet off is that there's nothing to see under there.

# ? Mar 11, 2014 18:32

Barudak: May 7, 2007

PlesantDilemma posted:

I also thought this when Dredd first encountered the other Judge and figured out he was an enemy after a few seconds. It made it seem like Dredd often has to deal with corrupt cops coming to kill him, perhaps on a weekly basis. He doesn't even mention later to the Judge Boss-Lady that he had a firefight with fellow judges. Just one more insight into the violent crazy world that Dredd has to live in.

The feeling you get is less "This is the worst thing ever, how can something like this happen?" and more "Printer is jammed, again"

drat its a good movie.

# ? Mar 11, 2014 18:38

Perestroika: Apr 8, 2010

Helsing posted:

I really enjoyed this movie when it came out in theatres. Its basically Robocop or Batman meets Die Hard. It's also so refreshing to have a sci fi or super hero movie that is just a 'Day in the Life' plot rather than an origin story or a 'save the world' story.

That having been said, there were some problems with how the movie was executed. It never really feels like Dredd is threatened and as a result the stakes in the action scenes are kind of low. The glittery slow motion effects seem like they kind of mask how banal a lot of the action actually is. Every scene pretty much amounts to Dredd walking in and blowing everybody away with his gun.

There also wasn't much in the way of a climax. Sure the 'bad judges' show up at the end but they have basically zero characterization and are dispatched quickly. The movie just sort of starts, works to its logical conclusion, and then ends. Dredd barely seems to break a sweat.

In a way that almost makes the movie more charming. This really just feels like a regular day for the protagonist, as though this is the kind of thing he does all the time and isn't a big deal to him. That's a nice contrast to every other post-Dark Knight super hero movie. Also the ambiance of the setting - the sense of desolation and desperation, the relentless brutality of Dredd's world and of everyone in it, including the heroes - certainly helps to keep the movie interesting. Still, I wouldn't have minded a bit more tension in the last twenty minutes of the film, if not for Dredd then at least for Anderson. And it would have been nice if the 'boss fight' at the end was someone who had been introduced and built up a bit more early in the film, rather than four underwhelming characters who only show up about ten minutes before they are killed.

For what it's worth, I always thought that Dredd isn't the actual main protagonist, Anderson is. For her the stakes are a whole lot higher, and she also had more of an actual character arc and growth. In a way, Dredd is less of a character and more of a fixture of the world around her.

# ? Mar 11, 2014 18:53

Myrddin_Emrys: Mar 27, 2007; by Hand Knit

Helsing posted:

It never really feels like Dredd is threatened and as a result the stakes in the action scenes are kind of low. The glittery slow motion effects seem like they kind of mask how banal a lot of the action actually is. Every scene pretty much amounts to Dredd walking in and blowing everybody away with his gun.

Sure the 'bad judges' show up at the end but they have basically zero characterization and are dispatched quickly.

This really just feels like a regular day for the protagonist, as though this is the kind of thing he does all the time and isn't a big deal to him.

This is the whole point of Dredd and how he has always been written as a caricature of extreme fascism. This really is a normal day for him and the reason why the stakes seem low is because that's how he has always been written. The whole point of Dredd (especially in his really early stories) wasn't the danger he was in, but how much of a bastard he was at delivering justice.

Notice how in the film, Dredds facial expressions and attitude and personality are completely ridiculous and over the top while everyone else in the film are completely normal. Dredd is a satire of himself.

Dredd isn't a hero to root for, Dredd is a voyeuristic parody we watch/read to see how inhumanly he dispatches the criminals/victims in the name of the law.

# ? Mar 11, 2014 18:59

Crappy Jack: Nov 21, 2005; We got some serious shit to discuss.

Myrddin_Emrys posted:

This is the whole point of Dredd and how he has always been written as a caricature of extreme fascism. This really is a normal day for him and the reason why the stakes seem low is because that's how he has always been written. The whole point of Dredd (especially in his really early stories) wasn't the danger he was in, but how much of a bastard he was at delivering justice.

Notice how in the film, Dredds facial expressions and attitude and personality are completely ridiculous and over the top while everyone else in the film are completely normal. Dredd is a satire of himself.

Dredd isn't a hero to root for, Dredd is a voyeuristic parody we watch/read to see how inhumanly he dispatches the criminals/victims in the name of the law.

When Dredd says "I am the law", it's not just a badass phrase. It is true. Dredd is an extension of the system he inhabits. It's not just Dredd who is unaffected and stoically dispenses horrific violent justice upon criminals. It's the whole system that does it. Dredd is just the gun, really.

# ? Mar 11, 2014 19:21

McSpanky: Jan 16, 2005

Crappy Jack posted:

The commentary track is an offscreen Dredd, silently glaring at the footage without emotion.

No, Dredd should speak, but only to point out more crimes not cited the first time around and more critiques of Anderson's performance.

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# ? Mar 12, 2014 04:48

Vengeance of Pandas: Sep 8, 2008; THE TERRIBLE POST WENT THATAWAY!

Don't forget a Megacity 1 piracy warning.

"Citizen, the illegal replication of any part of this film is a crime. The sentence is a fine of up $5000 dollars and a possible period of two years in the cubes. However should you attempt to resist arrest and in the process assault a judge the sentence will be upgraded to death. That is all."

# ? Mar 12, 2014 13:58

Neo Rasa: Mar 8, 2007; Everyone should play DUKE games.

Vengeance of Pandas posted:

Don't forget a Megacity 1 piracy warning.

"Citizen, the illegal replication of any part of this film is a crime. The sentence is death. That is all."

# ? Mar 12, 2014 14:21

TheHoosier: Dec 30, 2004; The fuck, Graham?!

Jedit posted:

Do you need to be directed to the comics thread? There's lots of different Dredd.

I actually went and found it myself! Thank you though. I'm going to start with Case File 5 and move on from there.

# ? Mar 12, 2014 14:42

sephiRoth IRA: Jun 13, 2007; "Science is not only compatible with spirituality; it is a profound source of spirituality."

-Carl Sagan

TheHoosier posted:

I actually went and found it myself! Thank you though. I'm going to start with Case File 5 and move on from there.

DOOO ITTTT

Seriously, it's a ton of fun. One of the reasons that the "this is just another day" didn't bother me is that if you look at what Dredd has to deal with (especially in the context of the comics), shooting up some corrupt judges and killing a gang leader while being hunted in a locked-down block really isn't that bad. I just read one last night where Dredd had to manage an eating contest, where the last line is essentially Dredd saying "Crazy? I just watched eighty fat men eat two 24-ton RVs. Don't talk to me about crazy." That's without touching on dealing with alternate dimension aliens, demons, The Devil, among other equally crazy things.

# ? Mar 12, 2014 15:50

Deakul: Apr 2, 2012; PAM PA RAM

PAM PAM PARAAAAM!

Pingiivi posted:

Those Ogre and Drokk albums are also on Spotify.

Oh poo poo, good eye thanks.

# ? Mar 12, 2014 16:10

Vengeance of Pandas: Sep 8, 2008; THE TERRIBLE POST WENT THATAWAY!

areyoucontagious posted:

DOOO ITTTT

Seriously, it's a ton of fun. One of the reasons that the "this is just another day" didn't bother me is that if you look at what Dredd has to deal with (especially in the context of the comics), shooting up some corrupt judges and killing a gang leader while being hunted in a locked-down block really isn't that bad. I just read one last night where Dredd had to manage an eating contest, where the last line is essentially Dredd saying "Crazy? I just watched eighty fat men eat two 24-ton RVs. Don't talk to me about crazy." That's without touching on dealing with alternate dimension aliens, demons, The Devil, among other equally crazy things.

You also get to see what a stone cold ruthless bastard Dredd can be, within the limits of the law of course, pumping Ma-Ma full of drugs before throwing her off the top floor? Nothing compared to some of the stuff he did in the comics.

# ? Mar 12, 2014 19:09

sephiRoth IRA: Jun 13, 2007; "Science is not only compatible with spirituality; it is a profound source of spirituality."

-Carl Sagan

Vengeance of Pandas posted:

You also get to see what a stone cold ruthless bastard Dredd can be, within the limits of the law of course, pumping Ma-Ma full of drugs before throwing her off the top floor? Nothing compared to some of the stuff he did in the comics.

Yeah, my favorite is Dredd going door to door looking for a creep, having some next-door neighbors narc on said creep, and the Dredd goes "you wouldn't be so eager to turn him in unless you didn't want us to check your apartment." And then he busts them for some poo poo and it's 30 years in the cubes.

# ? Mar 12, 2014 19:25

Helsing: Aug 23, 2003; DON'T POST IN THE ELECTION THREAD UNLESS YOU JOE BIDEN

Just to be clear I really enjoyed this movie and I especially liked the fact that it was a day in the life of Dredd rather than 'Dredd saves the world' or 'how Dredd became a judge' or whatever. My only criticism, and its a fairly mild one, was that the movie didn't feel like it had much of a climax. I think that you could have fixed that by just tweaking the script a bit. At the very least you could have set up the bad judges a bit better before introducing them. That or just have the big villain Dredd has to fight be a member of MaMa's crew who was previously established as being particularly bad rear end.

I admit I did like the fact that Dredd is so much more intimidating than the criminals he's facing. I particularly love that the first time he and MaMa are within sight of each other its Dredd who comes off like a a monster - he survives having a giant minigun shot at him, and then he emerges out of the smoke to toss one of MaMa's top lieutenants off a balcony that's a hundred stories tall. You can see in MaMa's reaction shot that she's thinking "poo poo, I might be in over my head here". It certainly adds to the point some posters have made here about how Dredd is supposed to be the embodiment of the authoritarian system that he serves.

# ? Mar 12, 2014 20:29

Tender Bender: Sep 17, 2004

I like the tears in Ma-Ma's eyes during the minigun scene. It really conveys the feeling that she is just doing what she has to in order to survive (and to protect her people), and she sees the people she's gunning down as unfortunate victims of this conflict.

# ? Mar 12, 2014 21:22

KoRMaK: Jul 31, 2012

The main boss was ma-ma. He had to figure out how to kill her and not blow up the tower.

# ? Mar 12, 2014 21:35

Der Luftwaffle: Dec 29, 2008

Do the comics or anything else explain what the iso-cubes are like? I keep imagining steel/concrete boxes with toilets and only enough room to lie down in, but then wouldn't everyone just opt for death instead?

# ? Mar 12, 2014 23:51

Jedit: Dec 10, 2011; Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Der Luftwaffle posted:

Do the comics or anything else explain what the iso-cubes are like? I keep imagining steel/concrete boxes with toilets and only enough room to lie down in, but then wouldn't everyone just opt for death instead?

We see them a few times in various forms, but they're basically like Lector's cell in Silence of the Lambs except very modern. Perps do also get some socialising time except in the very highest security blocks, so it's not solitary confinement for X years.

# ? Mar 12, 2014 23:57

PassTheRemote: Mar 15, 2007; Number 6 holds The Village record in Duck Hunt.

The first one to kill wins.

Because watching Karl Urban Dredd punch Stallone Dredd in the face would be a dream come true.

# ? Mar 13, 2014 02:18

Myrddin_Emrys: Mar 27, 2007; by Hand Knit

PassTheRemote posted:

Because watching Karl Urban Dredd punch Stallone Dredd in the face would be a dream come true.

There is a panel of Dredd punching Stallone in the face saying something like he would never take his helmet off, but I can never find it. I think it got pulled for copywright?

# ? Mar 13, 2014 09:31

Doubtful Guest: Jun 23, 2008; Meanwhile, Conradin made himself another piece of toazzzzzzt.

Helsing posted:

Just to be clear I really enjoyed this movie and I especially liked the fact that it was a day in the life of Dredd rather than 'Dredd saves the world' or 'how Dredd became a judge' or whatever. My only criticism, and its a fairly mild one, was that the movie didn't feel like it had much of a climax. I think that you could have fixed that by just tweaking the script a bit. At the very least you could have set up the bad judges a bit better before introducing them. That or just have the big villain Dredd has to fight be a member of MaMa's crew who was previously established as being particularly bad rear end.

I admit I did like the fact that Dredd is so much more intimidating than the criminals he's facing. I particularly love that the first time he and MaMa are within sight of each other its Dredd who comes off like a a monster - he survives having a giant minigun shot at him, and then he emerges out of the smoke to toss one of MaMa's top lieutenants off a balcony that's a hundred stories tall. You can see in MaMa's reaction shot that she's thinking "poo poo, I might be in over my head here". It certainly adds to the point some posters have made here about how Dredd is supposed to be the embodiment of the authoritarian system that he serves.

One thing I really liked about the movie was the call back to the frequent set up in the comic of the Chief Judge suggesting that a squad of 20 judges be sent in, supported by H-Wagons to deal with a Block War, or a gang running a block only for Dredd to respond 'These creeps need to be taught to fear the law again. 1 Judge should be enough to handle them,' and then to go in solo. Dredd vs every criminal in Peach Trees is just another day in the life for Dredd.

The down to earth grittiness suited it very well - while I'd love to see them do a Dark Judges film, Dredd seems to be at his best when he's not doing big saving the world stories. Something with the cursed earth would be cool, but in that case they could just do a Missionary Man story, and keep Dredd in Megacity One.

# ? Mar 13, 2014 15:11

Drunkboxer: Jun 30, 2007

PassTheRemote posted:

Because watching Karl Urban Dredd punch Stallone Dredd in the face would be a dream come true.

It also works with Dredd because the film is primarily about face trauma.

# ? Mar 13, 2014 15:29

OXBALLS DOT COM: Sep 11, 2005; by FactsAreUseless; Young Orc

Jedit posted:

We see them a few times in various forms, but they're basically like Lector's cell in Silence of the Lambs except very modern. Perps do also get some socialising time except in the very highest security blocks, so it's not solitary confinement for X years.

Also in the comic, at least some of the time, I think part of the joke is that the life of a typical (or maybe idealized) law-abading citizen is pretty much the same sitting in an iso-cube versus sitting around bored and unemployed watching tv in their tiny apartments.

# ? Mar 13, 2014 20:55

Myrddin_Emrys: Mar 27, 2007; by Hand Knit

Cream_Filling posted:

Also in the comic, at least some of the time, I think part of the joke is that the life of a typical (or maybe idealized) law-abading citizen is pretty much the same sitting in an iso-cube versus sitting around bored and unemployed watching tv in their tiny apartments.

Wasn't that the point of the Futies? People who just couldnt hack living in the future and went crazy? Even though, they really wouldn't be living in the future, they would be living in their present. :shrug:

# ? Mar 14, 2014 00:18

Hbomberguy: Jul 4, 2009; [culla=big red]TufFEE did nO THINg WÌ¡RAÌ¸NG[/read]

Perestroika posted:

For what it's worth, I always thought that Dredd isn't the actual main protagonist, Anderson is. For her the stakes are a whole lot higher, and she also had more of an actual character arc and growth. In a way, Dredd is less of a character and more of a fixture of the world around her.

While Anderson has the most of an arc, Dredd's is important too - even though Anderson doesn't measure up to his personal standards she's nevertheless good enough to be a Judge. This is a pretty important moment for Dredd the character and Dredd the concept. He's normally a pretty unflinching guy who would basically never compromise The Law as he sees it, no matter what. But after a day of being very-almost overwhelmed and killed by the muck of society and the corruption of the very system he believes in (and the interrelationship between the two), he realises he can't actually fight that battle completely alone. You have to relax your principles enough that you don't make the perfect the enemy of the good - without Anderson, Dredd would literally have died. The Law itself is not enough. Even if an idea is perfect, you need people to believe in it and have your back for it to ever survive.

Whether or not this is a bad thing (Dredd ignores how the system he supports produces corrupt Judges and must be itself altered) is up to your interpretation.

# ? Mar 14, 2014 00:29

Crashbee: May 15, 2007; Stupid people are great at winning arguments, because they're too stupid to realize they've lost.

Myrddin_Emrys posted:

Wasn't that the point of the Futies? People who just couldnt hack living in the future and went crazy? Even though, they really wouldn't be living in the future, they would be living in their present.

Apparently future shock is a real thing

Wiki posted:

Toffler argued that society is undergoing an enormous structural change, a revolution from an industrial society to a "super-industrial society". This change overwhelms people. He believed the accelerated rate of technological and social change left people disconnected and suffering from "shattering stress and disorientation"�future shocked. Toffler stated that the majority of social problems are symptoms of future shock.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future_Shock

# ? Mar 14, 2014 00:33

Hob_Gadling: Jul 6, 2007; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS; Grimey Drawer

If the next movie was based on comics, I'd love to see an adapted screenplay from "Letter From a Democrat", "Revolution", "America" and "The Devil You Know".

# ? Mar 14, 2014 01:02

Ungoal: Mar 13, 2014; by XyloJW

If a sequel to this does get made, wouldn't it be the first time one got greenlit for a theatrical release despite the first being a box office bomb that failed to recuperate it's original budget?

# ? Mar 14, 2014 02:32

wyoming: Jun 7, 2010; Like a television
tuned to a dead channel.

Crashbee posted:

Apparently future shock is a real thing

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future_Shock

I own this book, I haven't read all of it, but a lot of it seems frighteningly spot on.

# ? Mar 14, 2014 03:18

Dissapointed Owl: Jan 30, 2008; You wrote me a letter,
and this is how it went:

Ungoal posted:

If a sequel to this does get made, wouldn't it be the first time one got greenlit for a theatrical release despite the first being a box office bomb that failed to recuperate it's original budget?

Atlas Shrugged?

# ? Mar 14, 2014 04:32

dirtgolem: Dec 22, 2011; Wounds are always fresh and so the scabs are never dry
Gutter is the place in which we choose to live our lives
Square inside a circle is the symbol in my eye
Home is where the gutter is and this is where I'll die

Hob_Gadling posted:

If the next movie was based on comics, I'd love to see an adapted screenplay from "Letter From a Democrat", "Revolution", "America" and "The Devil You Know".

H-E-L-L Y-E-S

My fanboy wet dream is to see the second movie take an even more depressing tone with Dredd questioning the Law, based on which ever of those events they weave in to the story and take the long walk by the end of the movie.

A third film could round of a trilogy and see an extremely messed up Dredd (physically and mentally) return to save the day in Necropolis.

One can dream.

# ? Mar 14, 2014 04:48

Helsing: Aug 23, 2003; DON'T POST IN THE ELECTION THREAD UNLESS YOU JOE BIDEN

It makes me sad to hear that this movie wasn't a financial success. I really hope strong DVD sales and fan support somehow lead to a sequel.

On an unrelated note, I was looking up brutalist architecture and I came across a building in South Africa called Ponte City Apartments. Its basically a real life Peach Trees (and according to wikipedia the building influenced the design of the film):

wikipedia posted:

History[edit]

The principal designer of Ponte was Mannie Feldman, working in a team together with Manfred Hermer and Rodney Grosskopf.[3][4] Rodney Grosskopff recalled the decision to make the building circular, the first cylindrical skyscraper in Africa.[5] At the time, Johannesburg bylaws required kitchens and bathrooms to have a window, so Grosskopff designed the building with a hollow interior, allowing light to enter the apartments from both sides.[5] At the bottom of the immense building were retail stores and initial plans were to include an indoor ski slope on the 32,000-square-foot (3,000 m2) inner core floor.[5] The building was so tall because developers wanted a large number of units but only had limited land to build on.[5] The building is located 35 minutes from the OR Tambo International Airport and almost within walking distance of the inner city with theatres like the Market and the Civic within 5 km (3.1 mi).[2]
Decay[edit]

During the late 1980s, gang activity had caused the crime rate to soar at the tower and the surrounding neighbourhood.[2] By the 1990s, after the end of apartheid, many gangs moved into the building and it became extremely unsafe. Ponte City became symbolic of the crime and urban decay gripping the once cosmopolitan Hillbrow neighborhood. The core filled with debris five stories high as the owners left the building to decay.[5] There were even proposals in the mid-1990s to turn the building into a highrise prison.[2] In 2001 Trafalgar Properties took over management of the building and began making numerous improvements.[6]

800 million people living in the ruin of the old world and the mega structures of the new one. Mega blocks. Mega highways. Mega City One. Convulsing. Choking. Breaking under its own weight. Citizens in fear of the street. The gun. The gang. Only one thing fighting for order in the chaos: the men and women of the Hall of Justice. Juries. Executioners. Judges.

# ? Mar 14, 2014 16:27

Tuxedo Catfish: Mar 17, 2007; You've got guts! Come to my village, I'll buy you lunch.

edit: Nevermind, I don't know a joke photoshop when I see one. :saddowns:

# ? Mar 14, 2014 16:46

echoplex: Mar 5, 2008; Stainless Style

Oh so that's where that is. Seen the interior looking down shot loads but never the context. Grim.

# ? Mar 14, 2014 17:32

Jedit: Dec 10, 2011; Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Helsing posted:

It makes me sad to hear that this movie wasn't a financial success. I really hope strong DVD sales and fan support somehow lead to a sequel.

On an unrelated note, I was looking up brutalist architecture and I came across a building in South Africa called Ponte City Apartments. Its basically a real life Peach Trees (and according to wikipedia the building influenced the design of the film):

Which isn't very surprising, as the movie was filmed in Johannesburg.

# ? Mar 14, 2014 19:50

VincentPrice: Jun 26, 2009

Hbomberguy posted:

While Anderson has the most of an arc, Dredd's is important too - even though Anderson doesn't measure up to his personal standards she's nevertheless good enough to be a Judge. This is a pretty important moment for Dredd the character and Dredd the concept. He's normally a pretty unflinching guy who would basically never compromise The Law as he sees it, no matter what. But after a day of being very-almost overwhelmed and killed by the muck of society and the corruption of the very system he believes in (and the interrelationship between the two), he realises he can't actually fight that battle completely alone. You have to relax your principles enough that you don't make the perfect the enemy of the good - without Anderson, Dredd would literally have died. The Law itself is not enough. Even if an idea is perfect, you need people to believe in it and have your back for it to ever survive.

Whether or not this is a bad thing (Dredd ignores how the system he supports produces corrupt Judges and must be itself altered) is up to your interpretation.

I disagree. Dredd passed her because he saw her as a full Judge when she let the hacker guy go. She realizes there's more to judging than just executing perps, it's also about protecting the innocent. She takes charge as a Judge for the first time in that scene, and that's also when he starts calling her Anderson instead of rookie.

# ? Mar 14, 2014 23:43

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# ? May 29, 2024 18:23

etalian: Mar 20, 2006

German writer Norman Ohler used the Ponte as the setting for his book Stadt des Goldes ("City of Gold"), "Ponte sums up all the hope, all the wrong ideas of modernism, all the decay, all the craziness of the city. It is a symbolic building, a sort of white whale, it is concrete fear, the tower of Babel, and yet it is strangely beautiful"

# ? Mar 15, 2014 02:08

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