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Fortuitous Bumble posted:I tried the tomnod website but all I found were some whales 
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toggle posted:If the cabin was depressurised at 40k feet, what would the passengers be feeling? As in, do they just pass out straight away, or get a nasty head ache then pass out? Yawning? Bleeding ears? Well since nobody who has a clue what they're talking about has responded to you yet I'll give it a shot! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_of_useful_consciousness is the wikipedia page for Time of Useful Consciousness, it matches up with Air Force charts pretty well so I'd consider it a reliable source. At 40,000 feet you have 15-20 seconds. That can vary based on whether or not it was a rapid decompression or you're moving or burning oxygen (which could drop it to single digits). A rapid decompression will not harm you unless you had some kind of nasal blockage, in which case life will seriously suck for you. Within that 15-20 seconds you will become hypoxic. The symptoms you immediately display vary by person but generally include light-headedness, fatigue, cyanosis (your fingertips/lips turn blue), tingling feelings and nausea. US Air Force aircrew are required to go through the altitude chamber, which includes a trip without oxygen up to very high pressure altitudes, and that's where this video is from: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UN3W4d-5RPo It's important to know your symptoms or you end up like that guy! So to answer your question, they'd start getting headaches and fatigue and then they'd probably pass out eventually. Those passengers with nasal blockages would suffer extreme pain, as would those with a lot of gas. This would all happen very quickly. edit: a note about that video, the point of the training is to understand your own symptoms so that you'll recognize when you're becoming hypoxic. The reason the instructor keeps hammering on that black box (which is the oxygen regulator) is because if you don't do it yourself then you fail. Prop Wash fucked around with this message at 09:36 on Mar 15, 2014 |
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Mar 15, 2014 09:32
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Lady Galaga posted:
Malaysians have none of those things and cant even fly a plane. Should have been the text.
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Prop Wash posted:Well since nobody who has a clue what they're talking about has responded to you yet I'll give it a shot! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_of_useful_consciousness is the wikipedia page for Time of Useful Consciousness, it matches up with Air Force charts pretty well so I'd consider it a reliable source. At 40,000 feet you have 15-20 seconds. That can vary based on whether or not it was a rapid decompression or you're moving or burning oxygen (which could drop it to single digits). A rapid decompression will not harm you unless you had some kind of nasal blockage, in which case life will seriously suck for you. Thanks for taking charge of this prop wash
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“@JonahFisher: Being briefed by Malaysia officials they believe most likely location for MH370 is on land somewhere near Chinese/Kyrgyz border.” Link: https://twitter.com/jonahfisher/status/444754310677553153
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Mar 15, 2014 09:45
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At this point I kind of wish some james bond villain would come forward with shrewd demands about the plane or some super weapon.Seriously More interesting than these paranoid terrorist bullshit theories.
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Mar 15, 2014 09:50
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In CoD you can lock onto a plane with the javelin rocket launcher. All I'm saying is maybe
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Mar 15, 2014 10:01
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Sinjang posted:“@JonahFisher: Being briefed by Malaysia officials they believe most likely location for MH370 is on land somewhere near Chinese/Kyrgyz border.” No fuckin way. unless china has a spectacularly awful radar system there's no WAY a civilian airliner can do a better stealth job than a loving blackbird could and go all that distance unnoticed.
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Mar 15, 2014 10:04
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Al-Saqr posted:No fuckin way. unless china has a spectacularly awful radar system there's no WAY a civilian airliner can do a better stealth job than a loving blackbird could and go all that distance unnoticed. Unless the pilot is the greatest pilot in the world and was flying a 777 at NAP height for 7 hours! Hell I would imagine even if he did pop up high enough to get into Military Radar range the radar operators would probably dismiss it as a glitch as who the gently caress would expect a 777 to just magically appear.
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Al Borland posted:At this point I kind of wish some james bond villain would come forward with shrewd demands about the plane or some super weapon.Seriously More interesting than these paranoid terrorist bullshit theories. yeah man it was probably just some kid who wanted to hijack a plane and fly it into the middle of the ocean until the fuel run out just for kicks
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Mar 15, 2014 10:08
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No loving way, is that even in the range for the aircraft?
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My Imaginary GF posted:No loving way, is that even in the range for the aircraft? Context ETA: as in, request some
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Mar 15, 2014 10:12
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just to illustrate how incredible this feat would be if it's even %1 true:-
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Mar 15, 2014 10:15
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It probably landed on a rogue chinese aircraft carrier. That's also a submarine.
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ukle posted:Unless the pilot is the greatest pilot in the world and was flying a 777 at NAP height for 7 hours! Wouldn't mountainous corridors like the Himalayas and the eastern stans have patchy radar coverage? Running with the rogue pilot theory, the captain is said to have had a flight sim setup in his home, meaning he could have rehearsed the nighttime mountain stages and known which altitudes to fly. Sinjang fucked around with this message at 10:20 on Mar 15, 2014 |
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Mar 15, 2014 10:16
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Also they somehow shut down the engine transponders on the 12 hour flight to western china.
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Mar 15, 2014 10:16
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Dusseldorf posted:Also they somehow shut down the engine transponders on the 12 hour flight to western china. How far could they get in 8 hours towards the border mentioned?
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Mar 15, 2014 10:21
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Sinjang posted:Running with the rogue pilot theory, the captain is said to have had a flight sim setup in his home, meaning he could have rehearsed the nighttime mountain stages and known which altitudes to fly. Oh man, a pilot had a flight sim.
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Mar 15, 2014 10:23
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Dusseldorf posted:Oh man, a pilot had a flight sim. I didnt know Microsoft flight simulator came with realistic secret military radar systems and locations and how to dodge/turn off every fail safe and beacon transponders in a post 9-11 world!
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Mar 15, 2014 10:26
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Lady Galaga posted:
what is usa supposed to do? start carpet bombing the sea until debris from the plane is churned up?
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Mar 15, 2014 10:27
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Al-Saqr posted:just to illustrate how incredible this feat would be if it's even %1 true:- There are commercial flights from KL to Bishkek. Looks to be about an 8 hour flight. Trying to find a map of the flight paths which are normally used.
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Mar 15, 2014 10:32
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If the pilot was in on it, he could have arranged for the plane to be overfuelled so as to travel further. A fully fueled 777 could easily fly to the Kyrgzstan border.
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Mar 15, 2014 10:34
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Wouldn't it be dangerous to just fly around? Aren't flight paths defined to avoid collision? Furthermore, wouldn't other planes be able to ping the rogue plane? I'm sure that a crew would know if they come across a plane on their route unexpectedly.
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Mar 15, 2014 10:36
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Dusseldorf posted:Oh man, a pilot had a flight sim. It's not unusual and not incriminating. But not having a home flight sim would make it harder to rehearse tricky routes like that. And of course there's no military radar data in there, just height map data.
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Mar 15, 2014 10:36
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This was in the middle of the night, when there would be fewer planes in the sky.
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Mar 15, 2014 10:37
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Lolie posted:There are commercial flights from KL to Bishkek. Looks to be about an 8 hour flight. Trying to find a map of the flight paths which are normally used. it's not the distance that's insane, the distance is perfectly normal for a 777, it's the fact that it can disappear and reach all the way there unnoticed by the militaries or radars of both India or china. Even on or off the flight paths someone wouldve at least figured something was up when a plane was not responding and wasnt registered to be on that path.
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Mar 15, 2014 10:39
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I can't believe how serious some people take this thread. You just need to admit to yourselves, jizz was the culprit, Jizz on the controls. Jizz on the instruments. She shoulda swallowed.
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Wandle Cax posted:If the pilot was in on it, he could have arranged for the plane to be overfuelled so as to travel further. A fully fueled 777 could easily fly to the Kyrgzstan border. But it's an 8 hour flight and I though we only had 4 hours of Rolls Royce engine data?
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Prop Wash posted:Well since nobody who has a clue what they're talking about has responded to you yet I'll give it a shot! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_of_useful_consciousness is the wikipedia page for Time of Useful Consciousness, it matches up with Air Force charts pretty well so I'd consider it a reliable source. At 40,000 feet you have 15-20 seconds. That can vary based on whether or not it was a rapid decompression or you're moving or burning oxygen (which could drop it to single digits). A rapid decompression will not harm you unless you had some kind of nasal blockage, in which case life will seriously suck for you. Ah cool! Thanks 
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my controls have jizz all over them and i can post ("fly" if you will) just fine e: gently caress wait i'm a bad poster  nm
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Apparently the last ping was 8:11am, so 7 hours after last contact assuming that's in Malaysia time.
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Dusseldorf posted:But it's an 8 hour flight and I though we only had 4 hours of Rolls Royce engine data? I believe the last ping was 7 hours after losing contact.
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Mola Yam posted:my controls have jizz all over them and i can post ("fly" if you will) just fine Clearly your jizz didn't leak down into the keys. I know if I spill "water" on my keyboard i loving shorts out till it dries out.
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Mar 15, 2014 10:47
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Oooohhhh Boooooyyy The Indian military at it's finest:- quote:If the missing flight is identified in this area, it could indicate that the chain of military radars on the Andaman and Nicobar Islands missed the plane as it would have had to fly over the islands to reach there. Whoever runs the Indian defense ministry should be court martialled. Al-Saqr fucked around with this message at 10:52 on Mar 15, 2014 |
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Mar 15, 2014 10:47
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Al-Saqr posted:Oooohhhh Boooooyyy They were too busy raping to turn them on.
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edit: fb double edit: the whole thing is still pretty implausible but not entirely impossible. i mean malaysia didn't panic at the time when a ufo crossed their radars after 1 am and india apparently has their radars in the andaman switched off sometimes (and no, china probably doesn't have a base at coco island), so just put a stroke of luck across the indian subcontinent and then maybe less than an hour flying low in rural chinese territory? MothraAttack fucked around with this message at 10:56 on Mar 15, 2014 |
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Al Borland posted:They were too busy raping to turn them on. Or they were turned on and India shot the aircraft down when they couldn't identify it (unlikely, but so are most of the other theories). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aircraft_hijacking#India
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