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computer parts posted:Single mothers are more sympathetic. To expand, they're not the same thing, one is a single mother having a baby by herself with no father involved (67%) and the other is an unmarried couple having a baby together, both of them raising it. (60%)
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That depends on exactly how you interpret the words "having a baby."
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Lutha Mahtin posted:Margin of error, variance in poll respondents, differences in poll methodology, respondent biases? There are many reasons. DreamShipWrecked posted:To expand, they're not the same thing, one is a single mother having a baby by herself with no father involved (67%) and the other is an unmarried couple having a baby together, both of them raising it. (60%)
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DreamShipWrecked posted:single mother having a baby by herself with no father involved There is only a single, unconfirmed case of this ever happening! But the approval rating is pretty high.
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Deuce posted:There is only a single, unconfirmed case of this ever happening! But the approval rating is pretty high. 
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MaxxBot posted:The same dichotomy exists here in the US, our culture is rapidly liberalizing their views on sexuality but abortion is a big exception because I believe most people view it differently than the other issues relating to sex and sexuality. The weird thing about this is how the US is less Catholic than Latin America, but in the US it's the Catholics who are statistically more likely to support abortion rights (versus e.g. Evangelicals). It will be interesting to see if the trend of younger Americans being more non-religious affects this at all.
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DACK FAYDEN posted:There was a Father involved then I seem to recall there being two.
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Deuce posted:There is only a single, unconfirmed case of this ever happening! But the approval rating is pretty high. Really? I heard it got absolutely crucified in early polling.
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Chokes McGee posted:Really? I heard it got absolutely crucified in early polling. Yeah, but the numbers recovered after a few days.
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Technogeek posted:Yeah, but the numbers recovered after a few days. Are you sure? I'm gonna need to see some evidence.
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Tarezax posted:Are you sure? I'm gonna need to see some evidence. They always release the bad news on Fridays for a reason.
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I am happy to explain all of this in my new book, Jesus Has Two Daddys.
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paragon1 posted:I am happy to explain all of this in my new book, Jesus Has Two Daddys. Possibly three depending on what the Holy Ghost's gender is. Maybe it's genderqueer?
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Two things, not to ruin the puns: 1. Scotland's gay marriage bill was given royal assent and is now law, although I don't know when the marriages will start proper, and 2. Lambda Legal is suing in Arizona to overturn their ban.
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Teddybear posted:Two things, not to ruin the puns: I think they came off the assembly line already ruined. 
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Teddybear posted:Two things, not to ruin the puns: Marriages in Scotland should start in Autumn. Also, the UK has started to recognise overseas marriages depending on the laws of the constituent country, and registrations are open for same-sex couples. 
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Sadly, it looks like Northern Ireland is not going to legalize gay marriage anytime soon. Question for any UK members: what's NI like compared to the rest of the UK? I've heard anecdotal evidence that it's much more patriotic and nationalist than the rest of the country owing to the situation w/ the Republic but I don't know a whole lot about it.
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Kurtofan posted:The death penalty still receives massive support Being put to death is almost certainly more humane than even 15 years in an average US prison. 
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AYC posted:Sadly, it looks like Northern Ireland is not going to legalize gay marriage anytime soon. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAvxqGnVO2w Largest party are a far-right ultra-unionist bunch of wankers. As they have over 30 MLAs, they can effectively veto any legislation proposed by any of the other parties under a rule built to promote cross-community consensus.
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It seems to be a unionist/nationalist divided issue, at least in the assembly. The DUP and other unionists are very socially conservative; Sinn Féin and the nationalists seem to be supportive of marriage equality; the cross-community Alliance voted against the motion they had a few years ago. NI is a very religious place; which probably makes changes in these sort of issues a lot harder. In order for things to change; you'd need enough Unionist MPs to switch and that's going to be hard because every unionist party is Socially Conservative and you're not going to see young people switch to the other side just because of marriage equality - the furthest you'd get is the Alliance who voted with the Unionists against the Sinn Féin motion...
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Install Windows posted:Being put to death is almost certainly more humane than even 15 years in an average US prison. Average time a death row inmate spends in jail before being put to death: 15 years.
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cruft posted:Average time a death row inmate spends in jail before being put to death: 15 years. well if they would stop appealing for their lives and take the sweet embrace of death they'd stop wasting taxpayer money and all of our times.
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computer parts posted:If I had to guess from people with similar views here, it's probably that they literally believe that life begins at conception, whereas they know many people in their community who don't have children and are happy/productive anyway (especially their church leaders). Just ask them "What if Hitler had been aborted?". 
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effectual posted:Just ask them "What if Hitler had been aborted?".
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CapnAndy posted:Tall, handsome, not loving insane and intent on making all his underlings backstab each other Joseph Goebbels comes to power instead, things quite possibly go much worse for the Allies?  Handsome isn't a word that comes to mind.
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Oh yeah, and he was only 5'5". Other points still stand; who was the tall and handsome one, then? I know one was.
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CapnAndy posted:Oh yeah, and he was only 5'5". Other points still stand; who was the tall and handsome one, then? I know one was. Whichever guy Tom Cruise played in Valkyrie.
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CapnAndy posted:Oh yeah, and he was only 5'5". Other points still stand; who was the tall and handsome one, then? I know one was. Reinhard Heydrich comes to mind.
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CapnAndy posted:Oh yeah, and he was only 5'5". Other points still stand; who was the tall and handsome one, then? I know one was. Himmler's go-to man, Reinhard Heydrich, was by all accounts one good-lookin' sociopathic monster. edit: drat you, Gen. Ripper!
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Heydrich was tall but I don't know if I'd call him handsome. He kinda reminds me of the banjo kid from Deliverance.
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Lycus posted:Heydrich was tall but I don't know if I'd call him handsome. He kinda reminds me of the banjo kid from Deliverance. According to many sources who knew him, the man was a real lady-killer and not just in the usual Nazi way.
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AYC posted:Yet the same country is vehemently anti-abortion and has some of the strictest laws against it in the world. It's quite simple, really. There are 2 kinds of people: those who focus on things they hate and those who focus n things they like. Bigots and homophobes belong in the former since why would go deny gays anything if you're focusing on loving something? Love the sanctity of marriage? That has nothing to do with gays. You'd be more concerned with infidelity and divorces. Heck, you'd want everyone to get married if you love marriage that much! So you're only left with people who hate gays. Now, with abortion, you get the former, people who hate sluts, and the latter, people who love babies. It's also simple to see: the policy that also pushes for easier access to contraception and sexual education is driven more by the latter because loving babies has nothing to do with sluts. The slut haters would deny contraception because they don't give a poo poo about babies and are just using them to punish sluts. This is why abortion issue has always been and always will be controversial. It won't stop being such an issue until we figured out a way to control our fertility with a switch that we can personally turn on and off.
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Federal Judge Issues Temporary Order That Tennessee Recognize Three Same-Sex Couples' Marriages They got married out of state and are challenging the Tennessee constitutional amendment. Nobody in TN can get married yet. quote:The court finds that the defendants are not likely to suffer costs and damages, should the be found to have been wrongfully enjoined. 
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All of this talk about who is the most handsome Nazi is what I imagine freepers and other assorted wingnuts are picturing when they try to warn us of the gay gestapo.
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DutchDupe posted:All of this talk about who is the most handsome Nazi is what I imagine freepers and other assorted wingnuts are picturing when they try to warn us of the gay gestapo. Everyone knows Hitler was a gay communist and that's why liberals love him.
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Deuce posted:Everyone knows Hitler was a gay communist and that's why liberals love him. Well he was a sensitive man after all.
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DutchDupe posted:All of this talk about who is the most handsome Nazi is what I imagine freepers and other assorted wingnuts are picturing when they try to warn us of the gay gestapo. The revolution will be well-tailored. And all those spit-shined boots... 
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So uh, Fred Phelps is close to the end: https://www.facebook.com/NatePhelps/posts/10151924300961765quote:I've learned that my father, Fred Phelps, Sr., pastor of the "God Hates F*gs" Westboro Baptist Church, was ex-communicated from the "church" back in August of 2013. He is now on the edge of death at Midland Hospice house in Topeka, Kansas.
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I wonder how many people will picket his funeral with signs like "GOD HATES PHELPS" and "PHELPS DIES GOD LAUGHS"
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Rickycat posted:I wonder how many people will picket his funeral with signs like "GOD HATES PHELPS" and "PHELPS DIES GOD LAUGHS" That would be giving him what he wants, though. Better would be to just ignore him and WBC, since they thrive on the attention.
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