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IceAgeComing posted:I have a map that I bought in Lithuania that has all of the contested nations in Europe (Transnistria; South Assetia; Abkhasia, Nagorno-Karabach etc) marked. Its not like I bought it from some weird shop in some weird town; it was from a chain book shop on Klaipeda's main street. Not sure if the thread has any interest in it; the only other unique thing is that all of the country and city names are written in Lithuanian... It's a strange combination, that's for sure. You wouldn't expect a Lithuanian map to indulge Russian imperialist fantasies.
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IceAgeComing posted:I have a map that I bought in Lithuania that has all of the contested nations in Europe (Transnistria; South Assetia; Abkhasia, Nagorno-Karabach etc) marked. Its not like I bought it from some weird shop in some weird town; it was from a chain book shop on Klaipeda's main street. Not sure if the thread has any interest in it; the only other unique thing is that all of the country and city names are written in Lithuanian... Just dragged it out; its a little loaded in that it marks Kosovo as being independent while it labels the various Georgian, Armenian and Moldovian states with stripes... It is always cool to see maps in foreign languages. Go ahead. quote:e: What IS happening to the forum? It is extremely irritating.
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Mar 16, 2014 23:45
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According to QCS; Lowtax or someone editing the stylesheets hosed up the CSS trying to add a stylesheet for the dumb new-YCS, or some poo poo. I'll scan it in; my scanner's on its last legs though so I can't promise that it'll be any good...
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Mar 16, 2014 23:46
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Torrannor posted:What IS happening to the forum? It is extremely irritating. What?
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Mar 16, 2014 23:59
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Until about two minutes ago all the text on the forum had an obnoxious drop shadow on it because someone changed the forum css and uploaded it to the live forums without first testing it because; y'know, that's what you do!
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Mar 17, 2014 00:02
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Kamrat posted:I've spent hours studying those maps in the past, they're awesome. I love the attention to detail. Let's talk about separatist movements... 
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Mar 17, 2014 00:16
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ComradeCosmobot posted:Let's talk about separatist movements... On one hand, those borders look like someone spilled coffee on the US. On the other hand, those states all suck.
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Kavak posted:On one hand, those borders look like someone spilled coffee on the US. On the other hand, those states all suck.
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Mar 17, 2014 00:21
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Right; so I've scanned in my Lithuanian map of Europe and edited it down. I'm only going to show bits that I found interesting; but if there is demand for more then I'll see what I can do. I'm relying on an A4 scanner and the map is somewhere between A3 and A4; but it seems to have came out quite well. The images are loving huge; but I'm not quite sure how they'll look resized so I'm going to use timg tags because that's the best of both worlds! This is the Caucusus region; and shows mapped Abkhazia, South Ossetia and Nagorno-Karabakh. I don't think that its entirely a Russian thing; because although the three nations all recognise each other, I don't think that Russia recognises Karabakh. You also see Sochi (Sočis) marked; which surprised me when I looked back because I didn't realise that it was that close to Georgia...  I found this quite interesting because you see that North Cyprus is also marked with this unrecognised symbol; and Kosovo is marked as a regular old nation - which is expected as Lithuania recognises Kosovan independence. Its stuff like this that makes this a really interesting map to me; especially since its a regular old map of Europe bought from a book shop!  Desided that a map including Ukraine was appropriate right now - the interesting parts are that Transnistria (Padnestrė) is marked and the very strange names that some Eastern countries have in Lithuanian. I couldn't fit Germany (Voketija) or France (Prancūzija) in any of my crops; but there are a few nice ones here. I really like the Lithuanian name for Belarus for some reason  . They have a strip on the side of all of the flags of every countries or technically independent entity in Europe. The unrecognised nations are included with their flags about half the size of the real "nations". It includes the Channel Islands, the Isle of Man, Gibratar and the Åland Islands; which means that they've either put a lot of effort into finding weird places that are not countries but have huge amounts of independence or they just didn't know much about the complex constitutional situation of those places... Also, Transnistria don't need to change their flag!   Finally, here's the British Isles; which I included because I'm from Scotland and its always interesting to see familiar city names rendered differently. Apparently; Lithuania has decided to support the Irish Nationalist movement and is having none of this Londonderry poo poo! The map's also wrong here; every other source that I found and my teacher when I was there said that Glasgow was spelled "Glazgas"; which makes more sense than what's there since "au" isn't a noun ending in Lithuanian. Then again "i" also isn't one, yet Dundee is spelled as "Dandi" everywhere I could find it which is actually pretty funny when you know a bit about Scottish comics! Other than that; all seems to be perfectly OK!
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Mar 17, 2014 01:20
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 So apparently an independence referendum lasting all week began today in Veneto and polls suggest that 2/3rds will support independence from Italy and the re-establishment of The Most Serene Republic.
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Mar 17, 2014 01:26
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To render a foreign place name in Lithuanian, just add -as. That's the lesson I'm taking away from this.
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Mar 17, 2014 01:27
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Phlegmish posted:To render a foreign place name in Lithuanian, just add -as. That's the lesson I'm taking away from this. Or if you're near Turkey, -ja.
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The funniest ones are those that already end in -as that get another one - Douglas becomes "Daglasas" Its the most common masculine noun ending and most non-Lithuanian names end up ending in it after they are translated over. In my class; we had a "Kalumas" (Callum); a "Džefas" (Geoff) and a "Emras" (Emre)...
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Mar 17, 2014 01:31
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twoday posted:
Please tell me that if they split off they'll call their president "Doge" instead of president ("His/Her Serenity" is also acceptable)
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Mar 17, 2014 01:31
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twoday posted:
I assume by 2050 Europe will have been split up into 740 million 1-citizen republics? 
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twoday posted:
Farecoal posted:I assume by 2050 Europe will have been split up into 740 million 1-citizen republics? A Buttery Pastry fucked around with this message at 01:40 on Mar 17, 2014 |
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Mar 17, 2014 01:36
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Interestingly, a lot of Venetians really do seem to favor independence, and they take it more seriously than you might imagine. Italy has never managed to become a true nation-state. I'm still pretty sure the referendum won't have any direct consequences.
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Mar 17, 2014 01:41
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Kavak posted:On one hand, those borders look like someone spilled coffee on the US. On the other hand, those states all suck. Except there's absolutely an absurd amount of coal buried in that area.
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Mar 17, 2014 01:43
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A Meat posted:Please tell me that if they split off they'll call their president "Doge" instead of president ("His/Her Serenity" is also acceptable) That would put me firmly against splintering though, because the  memes would never loving stop
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Mar 17, 2014 02:04
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You think that's bad? Just wait for the referendum Tajikistan is going to have about the future of autonomous province of Dikbut.
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Mar 17, 2014 02:10
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Farecoal posted:I assume by 2050 Europe will have been split up into 740 million 1-citizen republics? Nah, Spain will somehow still have control over Catalunya and the Basque country...
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Mar 17, 2014 02:15
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twoday posted:
Climate change is going to gently caress them harder than the Ottomans ever did.
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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PittTheElder posted:Climate change is going to gently caress them harder than the Ottomans ever did. Any sea-level rise at all will completely devastate the lower Po Valley. It's just a question of how far in the flooding will go. Venice itself is actually gaining some protection measures against the sea, but those WERE nationally Italian measures by design and implementation, so...
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Patria del Friuli kinda has to go independent too if they succeed. I'm down with Friuli becoming independent. I mean look at this flag: 
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Phlegmish posted:Italy has never managed to become a true nation-state. There never really was a popular movement for a unified Italy. The Kingdom of Sardinia just showed up with French support and conquered the rest.
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A Meat posted:Please tell me that if they split off they'll call their president "Doge" instead of president ("His/Her Serenity" is also acceptable) They should also bring back the old election system they had just so I can see news anchors trying to explain it, also that map with how rich municipalities are is a big reason why Venice would want independence.
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Mar 17, 2014 09:51
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twoday posted:
Is it just a "for funsies" referendum, cause that's the first time I heard of it.
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Mar 17, 2014 10:08
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Riso posted:There never really was a popular movement for a unified Italy. The Kingdom of Sardinia just showed up with French support and conquered the rest. To be fair, you could say that about any European country, even if you have to go back to "a bunch of Romans showed up and conquered it".
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Kurtofan posted:Is it just a "for funsies" referendum, cause that's the first time I heard of it. I'd imagine for various reasons due to it's creation Italy's laws on secession are a bit more strict then Spain's or UK's.
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double nine posted:To be fair, you could say that about any European country, even if you have to go back to "a bunch of Romans showed up and conquered it". Hmm, who are the exceptions to this? Switzerland as a voluntary union of cantons? Austria due to the fact that the "real" core remains after they lost their empire? The Scandinavian countries because they existed in a similar form since they first became nations in the middle ages and were never conquered by anybody, except for WW2 and inter-Scandinavian shenanigans (Kalmar Union etc.)?
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Mar 17, 2014 10:58
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The German people in 1848 wanted national unification.
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Torrannor posted:Hmm, who are the exceptions to this? Switzerland as a voluntary union of cantons? Austria due to the fact that the "real" core remains after they lost their empire? The Scandinavian countries because they existed in a similar form since they first became nations in the middle ages and were never conquered by anybody, except for WW2 and inter-Scandinavian shenanigans (Kalmar Union etc.)? Greece?
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Mar 17, 2014 13:31
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What would Venice's economy consist of? Tax shelters?
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Mar 17, 2014 14:31
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Emanuel Collective posted:What would Venice's economy consist of? Tax shelters? Carrying tourists around on boats and selling filming rights to Bond films.
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Mar 17, 2014 14:37
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Control of sea trade on the Mediterranean with a fleet of galleys, obviously!
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DrSunshine posted:Control of sea trade on the Mediterranean with a fleet of galleys, obviously! Coastal republics have a free CB to take any coastal city, what will be the first victim of a new Venice? Athens?
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Emanuel Collective posted:What would Venice's economy consist of? Tax shelters? quote:The regional industry is especially made of small and medium-sized businesses, which are active in several sectors: food products, wood and furniture, leather and footwear, textiles and clothing, gold jewelry, but also chemistry, metal-mechanics and electronics. This has led to the establishment of a strongly export-orientated system of industries. Sounds like it would be a mini-japan.
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Support for secession in the 1991 referendum in Ukraine:
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If the past week in D&D has taught us anything, it's that a hyperlocal Europe would consist of microstates based around historically protected food production cartels.
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Spazzle posted:If the past week in D&D has taught us anything, it's that a hyperlocal Europe would consist of microstates based around historically protected food production cartels.
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