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Gargoyle posted:In Onondaga County, New York we have an Enhanced 911 center that has a CAD (Computer assisted Dispatch) which is obviously common to everyone everywhere. No it's not. We have a phone number to call affixed to the garage door that goes straight to the department pages. We don't have a 911 system where I live. You have an emergency? Hope you can remember the three different numbers. Gargoyle posted:I am curious, though. Everybody is using the Motorola XTS 2500 Digital Radios... Right? Digital Trunking came into my county in like, 2008-2009ish. What other radio systems other then Low-Band do departments use? the 800 system? We actually do have the Motorola XTS 2500s, surprisingly.
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Any NYC goons on duty today? I'm killing time in the city.
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dexter6 posted:Any NYC goons on duty today? I'm killing time in the city. Sorry, nope. Was supposed to be, but I got my birthday weekend off 
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Mar 1, 2014 21:41
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I... I have found nirvana. My previous department was full of hardasses in the rank and file. This new one doesn't care so much as long as you do the job and do it well. My mind was loving blown. I just had my first drill with them tonight and it just blew my mind the differences between how they treated drill and my old department treated it. Don't get me wrong, you always need to have the hardasses around in one way or another. But, there's a mile-wide difference between that and how my old department ran everything. They scared off 50 volunteers in a period of 2 years before I got there. Guys who had been there for years. And that's just a 50 volunteer difference in the period 2-3 years before I got there and when I joined up. They had gotten new ones in the meantime. I have had all the officers here that I've interacted with, except for one (and the chiefs) tell me to stop calling them sir whenever I have talked with them. It's seriously night and day in the overall organizational attitude. My old department and the way they treated volunteers nearly burned me out on the career. This though? Something completely different and I love it again. To all of you out there in lovely departments in one way or another: There are better ones out there. You just need to find them. Edit: All I can really say, is that my love of firefighting is back, baby. 
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Mar 5, 2014 09:53
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Some career departments absolutely hate volunteers and there's nothing you can do to change that. Especially in departments that were once all career and had to lay off guys and hire volunteers to maintain adequate staffing while staying within the budget. I was only required to do the "yes sir" and "no sir" thing while in the academy, and that was only if certain people were watching. Most of our instructors didn't give two shits about it.
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Reminalt posted:Some career departments absolutely hate volunteers and there's nothing you can do to change that. Especially in departments that were once all career and had to lay off guys and hire volunteers to maintain adequate staffing while staying within the budget. The worst part... This department was founded as a volunteer department. It was still mostly volunteer until those 2-3 years before I got there. About 3-4 years ago they got a new Chief. That Chief made the move to make it more of a career based department. When they were interviewing chiefs, one of the guys brought on didn't think a mostly volunteer department could work until he was on scene at a house fire and they had guys constantly showing up in huge numbers. To the point where they had to tone out that they no longer needed man power. I have heard stories about that hiring process that brought him to that department. It was all kinds of hosed up. They turned down a guy who very obviously wanted to be at that department who had gone through all sorts of special training, had a ton of experience and knowledge, and who vastly respected how the department had been run. They turned him down because he just, "didn't have the right feel for (city/town name)." After they hired the new chief, they went from 75 volunteers down to about 20 in a period of about a year and a half. It then was whittled away down to 12 when I was brought on along with 5 other guys.
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Mar 5, 2014 12:15
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Those fire fighters are also the ones who are angry because they want to work only fire and not EMS. You don't need a ladder truck, you need a time machine.
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Mar 5, 2014 14:03
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http://www.statter911.com/2014/03/05/fake-firefighter-ordered-2nd-alarm-refused-come-roof-burning-portsmouth-nh-building/ I can't imagine laddering a roof to rescue someone, then have that person demand that I hand them a hose line when I got up there. 
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dexter6 posted:Those fire fighters are also the ones who are angry because they want to work only fire and not EMS. And yet 80% of the calls in that city are EMS calls. The average per day is low, as it's a small city (>30k), but it's still about 8-10 calls a day.  EMS rules, and I won't hear otherwise. Fire is fun as hell, but it's not the majority of the job anymore in most places- unless you have a separate company/association/department that runs EMS for you.
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Just finished a 2.5 month detail to the truck company in my house (a part of probation is crossing the floor to get hands on experience with the other company) and I'm seriously considering just transferring in the next few months. I'd love a first due nozzle job while I'm in the engine, but I'm not in the busiest area for fire duty and how long do I wait for that first due job? The truck on the other hand gets a lot more chances for hands on stuff and at fires where only the first due engine sees work multiple trucks get to do stuff because we often have to search/clear multiple floors on large high-rises.
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senor punk posted:Just finished a 2.5 month detail to the truck company in my house (a part of probation is crossing the floor to get hands on experience with the other company) and I'm seriously considering just transferring in the next few months. I'd love a first due nozzle job while I'm in the engine, but I'm not in the busiest area for fire duty and how long do I wait for that first due job? The truck on the other hand gets a lot more chances for hands on stuff and at fires where only the first due engine sees work multiple trucks get to do stuff because we often have to search/clear multiple floors on large high-rises. Doooo iiiiiiiiit. No seriously, do it. Edit: More tools, better tools, more and better fun.
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Mar 20, 2014 01:12
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Nozzle or nothin'.
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Mar 20, 2014 05:46
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senor punk posted:Just finished a 2.5 month detail to the truck company in my house (a part of probation is crossing the floor to get hands on experience with the other company) and I'm seriously considering just transferring in the next few months. I'd love a first due nozzle job while I'm in the engine, but I'm not in the busiest area for fire duty and how long do I wait for that first due job? The truck on the other hand gets a lot more chances for hands on stuff and at fires where only the first due engine sees work multiple trucks get to do stuff because we often have to search/clear multiple floors on large high-rises. From one full-time union guy to another, nobody ever asks you at the end of your career how many calls you ran. You're in the FDNY, I guarantee you'll see and do cool stuff over the course of your career.
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smooth.operator posted:From one full-time union guy to another, nobody ever asks you at the end of your career how many calls you ran. You're in the FDNY, I guarantee you'll see and do cool stuff over the course of your career. Of course, however the nozzle position is almost never given to people that aren't in that engine company. So once you leave an engine your chances of getting the nozzle at a fire are relatively low. As it is it's tough to get that chance because there aren't as many fires as there used to be and if you aren't first due you often don't get poo poo.
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Boston 2xLODD Dispatch+Mayday traffic. I know we've all heard tons of mayday traffic and seen crazy videos, but this is some of the worst audio I've ever heard. 33's BEGS for water for a very very long time and doesn't get it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RbnKWpzMCE For reference, here's a Boston 9th alarm run card: 
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Mar 27, 2014 00:24
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That's so hard to listen to.
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It sounds like the last outgoing Mayday traffic happens around the 15:10 mark. At 34:39 they confirm there's still firefighters unaccounted for in the basement, at about 35:05 the search is called off and everyone is pulled out. The worst part is someone mentioning hearing a PASS alarm at 35:12 and being told that they are not to go back into the building; that has to be a lovely feeling.
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Mar 27, 2014 06:39
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Goddamn that's hard to hear. I don't know enough about how other places run, I am really interested to learn what happened here. Did they go in without a line or with the line uncharged? They called to charge the line initially, but I don't understand why an engine company would make entry without a line in place. Were they on search? Did they just not have enough water? I mean, Jesus. And I feel so badly for IC telling people they can't go back in for fallen brothers. I mean, yeah, they're probably already gone, in one of the last mayday messages you can hear the vibralert going off, but still that's terrible to have to basically write two guys off as lost. What a lovely thing all around.
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 This loving rescue (I recommend muting it though)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cg9PWSHL4Vg I'm pretty sure I would have poo poo my gear if I was that guy on the top of the ladder.
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The preliminary investigation is saying 33's hose line probably burned through. At what point does that become a significant risk? I know hose lines aren't fireproofed, but at what temperature does it start to fail? I'm guessing in the 500-600F range but is there a known quantity here?
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I'm curious to find out how they ended up passing fire or having it behind them. That's a definite bad place to be in.
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I'm wondering if the 4th firefighter entering from the basement turned what was a ventilation-limited fire into a full on inferno. Why leave your job of securing the water line? Why not just radio what the bystander told you to your crew already in the structure? I know it's lovely to armchair-quarterback after the fact but to me it seems like these deaths may have been preventable. Article on Ventilation-Limited Fires: http://www.fireengineering.com/articles/print/volume-166/issue-7/features/ventilation-limited-fires-in-residential-buildings.html
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Ironsights posted:
That is loving crazy. The construction worker hanging off the ledge and swinging down to the other balcony was hard to watch.
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smooth.operator posted:I'm wondering if the 4th firefighter entering from the basement turned what was a ventilation-limited fire into a full on inferno. Why leave your job of securing the water line? Why not just radio what the bystander told you to your crew already in the structure? I know it's lovely to armchair-quarterback after the fact but to me it seems like these deaths may have been preventable. Is there a link that talks about what the 4th firefighter did, or did you figure it out from the audio? I'm not used to the clipped dialogue so I couldn't pick up that. Even if the entry door was shut as much as possible, that still leaves a 3-5 inch gap for the wind to blow through. Where was the third firefighter? In my department, the minimum crew is 2 firefighters, one driver and one officer. The officer and a firefighter go in with a 1 3/4 line with the second firefighter helping set up water supply and/or helping pull the line through the entry door. Officers job is to read heat with an exposed hand ahead of the nozzle. My departments standard right now is 100 gpm but several captains are pushing for 150 gpm, which I agree with. I hope someone recorded the initial incident for future training. I definitely agree that these deaths were preventable. Anyone know what hand line length/size/gpm and scba bottles Boston uses?
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The Gardenator posted:Is there a link that talks about what the 4th firefighter did, or did you figure it out from the audio? I'm not used to the clipped dialogue so I couldn't pick up that. Even if the entry door was shut as much as possible, that still leaves a 3-5 inch gap for the wind to blow through. Where was the third firefighter? This article breaks down what happened: http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2014/03/27/when-routine-turns-crisis/VciKjCDUWGZbp8saE1jWGM/story.html Firefighters that got trapped, Walsh & Kennedy went in. Keith hit the hydrant, Evans was the pump operator.
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Ironsights posted:
Muting the audio wasn't necessary for me, I was saying the same things as that woman in my head anyway. I feel like I need a cigarette after watching that, holy gently caress.
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Got my first "on call" injury yesterday, a candidate got a bit eager with the spreaders on a simple extraction and now i have to fractures in my left arm, and 8-12 weeks of admin duty in front of me. but listening to that comsrecording from boston sort of put things in perspective. poor bastards. if i wasent high as a kite on pain meds i would probably need a stiff one after listening to that.
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Shamelessly stolen from funny pictures thread in PYF.
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Problem: DAUGHTER FINGER STUCK Patient Number: 1 Chief Complaint: Traumatic Injuries (Specific) 7-year-old, Female, Conscious, Breathing. Dispatch CAD Code: 30A01 Response Text: INJ Determinant Level: NOT DANGEROUS body area KQ: The injury is to a NOT DANGEROUS area. KQ: She is completely alert (responding appropriately). FINGER STUCK IN EASY BAKE OVEN NOT ON DOOR IS OPEN AND THEY ARE UPSTAIRS ON THE SECOND FLOOR REQUESTING RESUCE ENGINE Oh god I hope they used the spreaders.
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Paramemetic posted:Problem: DAUGHTER FINGER STUCK Patient Number: 1 Chief Complaint: Traumatic Injuries (Specific) 7-year-old, Female, Conscious, Breathing. Dispatch CAD Code: 30A01 Response Text: INJ Determinant Level: NOT DANGEROUS body area KQ: The injury is to a NOT DANGEROUS area. KQ: She is completely alert (responding appropriately). FINGER STUCK IN EASY BAKE OVEN NOT ON DOOR IS OPEN AND THEY ARE UPSTAIRS ON THE SECOND FLOOR REQUESTING RESUCE ENGINE Circ saw all the way
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Paramemetic posted:Problem: DAUGHTER FINGER STUCK Patient Number: 1 Chief Complaint: Traumatic Injuries (Specific) 7-year-old, Female, Conscious, Breathing. Dispatch CAD Code: 30A01 Response Text: INJ Determinant Level: NOT DANGEROUS body area KQ: The injury is to a NOT DANGEROUS area. KQ: She is completely alert (responding appropriately). FINGER STUCK IN EASY BAKE OVEN NOT ON DOOR IS OPEN AND THEY ARE UPSTAIRS ON THE SECOND FLOOR REQUESTING RESUCE ENGINE Laughed way too hard at the thought of this...
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Nothing a sawzall won't fix.
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Ironsights posted:Nothing a sawzall won't fix. I will always advocate for use of the circ saw. 
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windshipper posted:I will always advocate for use of the circ saw. There are few problems that can't be fixed with a sledgehammer.
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Cage Kicker posted:There are few problems that can't be fixed with a sledgehammer. Like getting a K-12 blade out of a guardrail. That sure was expensive.
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Cage Kicker posted:There are few problems that can't be fixed with a sledgehammer.  So true. Hommando posted:Like getting a K-12 blade out of a guardrail. I think it's story time!
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windshipper posted:
I still eagerly await this story. Also just finished the training for my redcard. Can't wait for summer to come.
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Well I can add "airplane" to the list of things I've lifted. We had a chain sling in the front and back and used airbags to lift the back end a couple inches off the ground. Had a real scare when one of the airbags kicked out and flew a couple feet. Other than that small mishap, one of the cooler training sessions I've had in a while.
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After two years on the eligible list for my city and six months of residency/background checks I have my first board interview in front of members of city fire, personnel, and legal department in two weeks! I have been reading Paul Lepore's "Smoke Your Firefighter Interview" and am keeping a notebook of thoughts and responses, as well as practicing question and answers with friends and family. Any other suggestions for getting through the board interview process?
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