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Zeroisanumber posted:Depends on what you mean by land war. The US could probably eject Russian troops from Crimea and follow that up by sinking the Black Sea Fleet and bombing Russian military bases in the area. But that's not going to happen because the US is more likely to send troops to invade the Moon than we are to invade Crimea. Yeah, but Russia isn't Serbia and starting something like that doesn't end with Crimea. The international fallout of the two superpowers engaging in open conflict is just so far beyond a simple military operation. Like seriously, if America sinks the Black Sea Fleet, we might as well start gearing up for WWIII. And the US and the world isn't prepared for that kind of conflict.
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Little Blackfly posted:Yeah, but Russia isn't Serbia and starting something like that doesn't end with Crimea. The international fallout of the two superpowers engaging in open conflict is just so far beyond a simple military operation. Like seriously, if America sinks the Black Sea Fleet, we might as well start gearing up for WWIII. And the US and the world isn't prepared for that kind of conflict. Russia isn't a military superpower anymore. While they're more than a match for Ukraine and other countries in Eastern Europe, their conventional forces just don't have the power of the old Red Army. A conventional war against the US would run them out of ammunition and equipment fairly quickly, and their conscript force just isn't ready for action beyond Russia's immediate neighborhood. Their economy also isn't ready for a major war, and IIRC their GDP is about half of Germany's and less than an eighth of the money dick that the US swings. They do have a fuckload of nukes still hanging around though, so a lack of conventional forces is pretty much a moot point.
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Zeroisanumber posted:Russia isn't a military superpower anymore. While they're more than a match for Ukraine and other countries in Eastern Europe, their conventional forces just don't have the power of the old Red Army. A conventional war against the US would run them out of ammunition and equipment fairly quickly, and their conscript force just isn't ready for action beyond Russia's immediate neighborhood. Their economy also isn't ready for a major war, and IIRC their GDP is about half of Germany's and less than an eighth of the money dick that the US swings. There ya go. Open conflict between the US and Russia will only result in nuclear war.
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DemeaninDemon posted:There ya go. Open conflict between the US and Russia will only result in nuclear war. Exactly. I don't forsee something like this ending without a major urban Centre getting hit. Like any of the US bases in Germany.
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Fried Chicken posted:Unpack this a bit more because right now it reads like you even more wrong than the Freep. The flow of charged particles will absolutely release EM radiation, it is called bremsstrahlung Okay! Eric Lerner, who owns that site, is a totally legit(if a little strange) physicist, whose book, by the same name, is just about a theoretical cosmological system(called plasma cosmology) that could also have given rise to some of the same basic observations about the state of the universe that Hubble's big bang did, without some of the specific elements. Look at the wikipedia article for the theory It was the most plausible alternate theory within physics that got shut down by the gravity wave discovery. Creationists didn't get any further than the title of the book, and went "aha, we totally owned those stupid liberal scientists." I have no doubt he titled the book to bait creationists, but the theory isn't a "not even wrong" thing. I don't mean to appear crazy. I'm aware it was a fringe theory. But that site isn't (specifically) creationist bunk.
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kik2dagroin posted:To: lowbridge Haha, yeah ok dude. I'll be keeping an eye on you, vpintheak. Don't think you'll get away with it like Mr. Nugent did! edit Mmann posted:Uh, nobody is ignoring how the cold war ended? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VWrvYqyLas Pretty sure all of Freep would've voted for Norman Mart. Sir Tonk fucked around with this message at 02:15 on Mar 20, 2014 |
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Fruity Rudy posted:Freepers vs. Physics:Detection of Waves in Space Buttresses Landmark Theory of Big Bang
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NASA-Sponsored Study Warns of ‘Impending Collapse’quote:The study, which has been accepted for publication in the peer-reviewed Elsevier journal, Ecological Economics, says that the industrialized nations of the world have, in their pursuit of energy resources, created an unsustainable model that’s doomed to implode on itself, creating a power vacuum and chaos. 'The Blaze’ readers respond quote:The-MonkMar. 17, 2014 at 2:10pm Yes NASA and Al Gore are the same thing: quote:wigoneMar. 17, 2014 at 2:15pm quote:watashbuddyfriendMar. 17, 2014 at 7:05pm quote:FutureUserMar. 17, 2014 at 2:18pm quote:
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quote:MikeL.MoringMar. 17, 2014 at 4:14pm
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Guavanaut posted:He's almost swung right around to far-left mutualism or some flavor of anarcho-primitivism, except you just know he actually means "I heard blacks live in cities, and also anyone who isn't a landowner already can get hosed. I have a survival plan and regularly fantasize about shooting the hoards of urban ferals when they try to actually take some land to live off of".
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loving democrats and their ever intruding big government! * wants government to order the relocation of most of the population and force them to work in the fields * Did this guy take a page from Pol Pot?
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Fruity Rudy posted:What if a conservative wanted to stand his ground, but there were no black people around for miles? Then one day the urban ferals will come. They're just over the horizon! They're almost here! They'll come flooding out of the cities to take your poo poo and rape your women! They're coming right at us! Are you ready?!
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Man, I was on vacation for a week and pretty much off the internet and this thread has delivered as a nice welcome back present. "Half-articulate" affirmative action black scientists, Putin working with Obama to distract the world from efforts to establish the caliphate, and cities are like a bad peanut butter sandwich or something. Thanks, Freep. Always more.
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wonder how Freep's reacting to the passing of Fred Phelps. Normally they'd be all against the "GOD HATES AMERICA".. but with as violently anti-LGBT as they've gotten some of it might have led to a "well, he's RIGHT, you know..."
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What does NASA have to do with Muslims? Is it just a matter of them letting brown people work for them?
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DreamShipWrecked posted:What does NASA have to do with Muslims? Is it just a matter of them letting brown people work for them? NASA is bad, Muslims are bad, therefore NASA is Muslims.
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SirFozzie posted:wonder how Freep's reacting to the passing of Fred Phelps. Normally they'd be all against the "GOD HATES AMERICA".. but with as violently anti-LGBT as they've gotten some of it might have led to a "well, he's RIGHT, you know..." I would guess the latter. Literally all it took was America electing a black man President and some states allowing gays to marry for the "patriots" to dream about a foreign oligarch conquering America, shredding our constitution, and reducing us to absolute Despotism. Edit: And all it took for them to turn against the military and insult those who serve was allowing homosexuals to serve openly. VitalSigns fucked around with this message at 18:13 on Mar 20, 2014 |
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VitalSigns posted:I would guess the latter. Literally all it took was America electing a black man President and some states allowing gays to marry for the "patriots" to dream about a foreign oligarch conquering America, shredding our constitution, and reducing us to absolute Despotism. I could see them sympathizing but with a bit of resentment for being thrown in with everyone else whose going to hell.
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DreamShipWrecked posted:What does NASA have to do with Muslims? Is it just a matter of them letting brown people work for them? Alright. Let me take you through this. It's a map of lovely old racists thinking lovely things: 1. So late last month Obama announced and initiative called "My Brother's Keeper" which was supposed to help young black men get a good education and find good paying jobs. 2. FReepers hate this, of course, but they're also convinced that Obama is a secret Muslim who's working with a vast conspiracy to bring about the Fall of America and the establishment of the Global Caliphate. 3. To FReepers, everything that Obama does is in effort of bringing about the Global Caliphate. 4. Therefore "My Brother's Keeper" isn't about helping young black men, it's about getting Muslims established in positions of power within the government. 5. NASA comes out with a report predicting some doom & gloom. 6. Because NASA is putting out this report during the Obama administration, it must be in some way connected to the plot to establish the Global Caliphate. 7. Therefore Obama is using "My Brother's Keeper" to infiltrate Muslims into NASA. 8. Therefore the report is a Muslim plot. 9. Therefore NASA is a treasonous organization and the report can be safely ignored. 10. gently caress Black People! 
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This is probably what you're looking forquote:To: Second Amendment First But mostly it's a lot of this quote:To: Second Amendment First and some of this quote:To: Second Amendment First
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Zeroisanumber posted:Alright. Let me take you through this. It's a map of lovely old racists thinking lovely things: That's utterly insane, and yet if you make a few completely wrong assumptions the insane troll logic almost makes sense. God, what is wrong with me
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SirFozzie posted:wonder how Freep's reacting to the passing of Fred Phelps. Normally they'd be all against the "GOD HATES AMERICA".. but with as violently anti-LGBT as they've gotten some of it might have led to a "well, he's RIGHT, you know..." They hate Phelps with a passion probably equal to Obama because they believe that he's a secret lefty from of his earlier politics/ALCU and having some pictures taken with Al and Tipper Gore. They also think that he's purposely slandering the name of religion with his actions and (by association them). Remember that his church was (is?) big into protesting soldier's funerals which is a big no-no if Freepsville.
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DreamShipWrecked posted:That's utterly insane, and yet if you make a few completely wrong assumptions the insane troll logic almost makes sense. Whenever you're wondering what FReep thinks about a given topic, just try and imagine the dumbest, most selfish, and most reductive answer that you can and you'll probably be near the mark.
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ReidRansom posted:
That is some impressive ignorance of science.
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SirFozzie posted:wonder how Freep's reacting to the passing of Fred Phelps. Normally they'd be all against the "GOD HATES AMERICA".. but with as violently anti-LGBT as they've gotten some of it might have led to a "well, he's RIGHT, you know..." quote:Westboro Baptist Church Leader Fred Phelps a Democrat And truly his work mirrors the unmistakable pattern of the Democratic party with its unabashed vilification of homosexuality: quote:Of course he is. quote:It is all very likely a deal between Phelps, the DNC, the Gay Lobby, Hollywood and the media to portray Pro Family Christians crazy thereby pulling people away from their Anti Gay Rights stances to a stance where they actually support gay marriage. quote:To: Da Coyote
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DreamShipWrecked posted:What does NASA have to do with Muslims? Is it just a matter of them letting brown people work for them? In 2010, the recently-appointed chief of NASA mentioned to Al-Jazeera that one of his "foremost tasks" was reaching out to Muslim countries and engaging in cultural exchange. This was read by Freep et al as OBAMA TURNED NASA INTO A WUSSY BUNCH OF NERDS WHO JUST WANT TO MAKE MUSLIMS FEEL GOOD ABOUT THEIRSELVES.
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Plinkey posted:They hate Phelps with a passion probably equal to Obama because they believe that he's a secret lefty from of his earlier politics/ALCU and having some pictures taken with Al and Tipper Gore. Plinkey posted:
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The article they're talking about was written by Nafeez Ahmed, and the study it mentions was headed by someone with a vaguely foreign sounding name. I'm pretty sure that's why they think it was posted to make muslims feel good about themselves.
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DreamShipWrecked posted:That's utterly insane, and yet if you make a few completely wrong assumptions the insane troll logic almost makes sense. Few years ago Obama pushed Muslim outreach through NASA. Because working together to fire missiles into space isn't nearly as AMERICAN as firing missiles at people we don't like. 
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Acquilae posted:
Good! That's just nature's way of telling you that you're still sane. Also, what could possibly be more metal than having a "deathstyle"? 
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FReep user Envisio sounds like a shithead. Let's find out more:quote:Sam Adams Beer pulls out of South Boston St. Patrick's Day Parade  the nervequote:John Kerry: Russia has until Monday to reverse course in Ukraine quote:HHS: We Lack 'Statutory Authority' to Extend Deadline to Sign Up for Obamacare quote:Welcome the Hip-Hop World into the Conservative Tent quote:Wild for America: Palin’s new TV series is her next step into limelight What a great American!
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I will never ever ever get over or stop laughing at the freep mindset that all Muslims are universally ultra conservative psychopaths that are super possessive and controlling of their women and think of nothing but war and destruction...but they're all gay.
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Fruity Rudy posted:NASA-Sponsored Study Warns of ‘Impending Collapse’ Wow. This guy is just full-on Pol Pot. Also, anthropology and sociology: basically peanut butter.
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Here is a link to the interview where the NASA guy said:quote:[H]e wanted me to help re-inspire children to want to get into science and math; he wanted me to expand our international relationships; and third, and perhaps foremost, he wanted me to find a way to reach out to the Muslim world and engage much more with dominantly Muslim nations to help them feel good about their historic contribution to science and engineering — science, math and engineering. He refers to Obama, obviously. Clearly this is the work of a future caliphate! I think it's extra funny because the quote was initially given to Al Jazeera. edit: fixed formatting Swan Oat fucked around with this message at 19:40 on Mar 20, 2014 |
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My absolute favorite thing about Christian fascists is that they never, ever, mention the love of money among the sins that are "destroying the nation". Greed and love of earthly possessions was the number one sin Jesus preached against and it's just so painfully obvious they have never even loving read the New Testament even though it's a very short, easy read.
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Unzip and Attack posted:My absolute favorite thing about Christian fascists is that they never, ever, mention the love of money among the sins that are "destroying the nation". Greed and love of earthly possessions was the number one sin Jesus preached against and it's just so painfully obvious they have never even loving read the New Testament even though it's a very short, easy read. No no no no. You get to keep your speedboat as long as you're humble about it, just like a camel on its knees passing through a gate into Jerusalem.
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Unzip and Attack posted:My absolute favorite thing about Christian fascists is that they never, ever, mention the love of money among the sins that are "destroying the nation". Greed and love of earthly possessions was the number one sin Jesus preached against and it's just so painfully obvious they have never even loving read the New Testament even though it's a very short, easy read. You've never heard of prosperity gospel have you?
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Unzip and Attack posted:My absolute favorite thing about Christian fascists is that they never, ever, mention the love of money among the sins that are "destroying the nation". Greed and love of earthly possessions was the number one sin Jesus preached against and it's just so painfully obvious they have never even loving read the New Testament even though it's a very short, easy read. I've heard it used but in the spirit of "people shouldn't be concerned with money and want what the rich has earned" to support low upper class taxes.
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Neo Rasa posted:I will never ever ever get over or stop laughing at the freep mindset that all Muslims are universally ultra conservative psychopaths that are super possessive and controlling of their women and think of nothing but war and destruction...but they're all gay. Well, this does describe Sparta. Maybe they think they're Spartan. You don't know.
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What White People Don’t See When They Watch Basketballquote:To: nickcarraway quote:To: x1stcav quote:To: nickcarraway The penultimate example. quote:To: henkster quote:To: nickcarraway
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