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henpod posted:What is the sound of one plane disappearing? If a plane falls in the ocean and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?
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dang, they're not gonna find it and this is gonna bug me the rest of my life
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Mar 21, 2014 16:32
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James Polk posted:dang, they're not gonna find it and this is gonna bug me the rest of my life I am also moving on and do not believe they will ever find the crash site even if they do find some floating wreckage within the next week, or some wreckage washed-up on shore. The question is, will this event force constant GPS tracking of all ocean-crossing airplanes? Or maybe install some sort of giant floating smiley face that deploys on impact with water so we know where to look for the drat airplane turned submarine.
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Mar 21, 2014 16:49
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to be honest a GPS unit is so loving cheap i don't know why planes wouldn't have them already
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Mar 21, 2014 17:06
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How about a tracking unit that cannot be disabled by the flight crew and in the event of an overwater crash/landing the loving thing serves as a beacon rather than sink to the bottom of the ocean.
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Mar 21, 2014 17:11
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James Polk posted:to be honest a GPS unit is so loving cheap i don't know why planes wouldn't have them already You can get your own GPS coordinates in the middle of a desert. You won't have a cell phone signal to let anyone else know what they are. Same goes with planes over the ocean.
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Mar 21, 2014 17:14
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There's an article in the NY Times today about how the tech exists to track planes via satellite but the airlines don't want to pay for it because air travel is extremely safe for the most part.
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Mar 21, 2014 17:22
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never trust an elf posted:The bigger unsolved mystery is this thread title
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Mar 21, 2014 17:24
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FlamingLiberal posted:There's an article in the NY Times today about how the tech exists to track planes via satellite but the airlines don't want to pay for it because air travel is extremely safe for the most part. Yeah, we already track whales from space and I don't understand why they wouldn't want it.
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Mar 21, 2014 17:27
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Hahah this plane is loving GONE guys.
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Mar 21, 2014 17:28
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bisticles posted:You can get your own GPS coordinates in the middle of a desert. You won't have a cell phone signal to let anyone else know what they are. Same goes with planes over the ocean. planes have radios though, have it transmit GPS location every 10 minutes so when it goes down we know where to look
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Mar 21, 2014 17:34
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James Polk posted:planes have radios though, have it transmit GPS location every 10 minutes so when it goes down we know where to look They basically have those, but with an off switch.
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Mar 21, 2014 17:40
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why would you want an off switch on it?
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Mar 21, 2014 17:44
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gnarlyhotep posted:why would you want an off switch on it? Dunno, to help disable electrical fires on the very high powered radio in the cockpit.
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Mar 21, 2014 17:59
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To get to somalia without anyone knowing.
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Mar 21, 2014 18:00
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Have they announced that those objects west of Australia are a bunch of nothing?
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Mar 21, 2014 18:43
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keevo posted:Have they announced that those objects west of Australia are a bunch of nothing?
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Mar 21, 2014 18:45
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keevo posted:Have they announced that those objects west of Australia are a bunch of nothing? I think their prime minister announced that the families of the MH370 passengers deserved this.
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Mar 21, 2014 18:58
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Bolivar posted:I think their prime minister announced that the families of the MH370 passengers deserved this.
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Mar 21, 2014 19:11
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tentative8e8op posted:If a plane falls in the ocean and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound? Yes, but the plane is both missing and not missing at the same time until someone sees it.
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Mar 21, 2014 19:51
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Have they found the mangosteens yet?
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bathroom sounds posted:His exact words were "227 fewer people Australia needs to worry about." lol mother loving bruce with the ice cold comment
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Mar 21, 2014 20:02
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bathroom sounds posted:His exact words were "227 fewer people Australia needs to worry about." We'll hell, I'd vote for him!
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Outpulse posted:Have they found the mangosteens yet? Those mangosteens are at the bottom of the deep, dark ocean. Those mangosteens are gone, son.
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Mar 21, 2014 21:39
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bathroom sounds posted:His exact words were "227 fewer people Australia needs to worry about." That dude is cool.
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Mar 21, 2014 21:40
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bathroom sounds posted:His exact words were "227 fewer people Australia needs to worry about." lol
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Mar 21, 2014 21:41
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Bolivar posted:I think their prime minister announced that the families of the MH370 passengers deserved this. technically for a split second the plane became a boat when it hit the water so that was that The infrastructure would probably be doable if you had enough money / time to prepare(steal stuff). the real problem is going to be keeping it quiet, a massive jet turning up in any isolated place is going to be big news and since pretty much everywhere has cellphone users these days it'll get flagged up by the NSA before too long VVVV ReV VAdAUL fucked around with this message at 21:51 on Mar 21, 2014 |
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Mar 21, 2014 21:43
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On the topic of crazy conspiracy theories, how much infrastructure does a modern airliner need to stay flyable? Like would a runway in the jungle with some jet fuel, maybe a mechanic or two, would that be enough?
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Mar 21, 2014 21:47
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At least a 5000 foot (almost 1 mile) long runway.
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Mar 21, 2014 22:05
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I've been chanting high level chakras while listening to Kylie Minogue tracks.FlamingLiberal posted:There's an article in the NY Times today about how the tech exists to track planes via satellite but the airlines don't want to pay for it because air travel is extremely safe for the most part. They could implement the ability to have real time latitude and longitude of commercial aircraft sent through iPhone push notifications on the hour. Between the doctored satellite imagery showing blob planes (because the countries have to act like their technology sucks for some reason) and the realization that the CVR may only have two hours because the pilots union said having more was a violation of privacy. Well, it's hard not to be misanthropic. Then when you realize these "black boxes" have 8-track Doobie Brothers technology inside. 
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Mar 21, 2014 22:08
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James Polk posted:dang, they're not gonna find it and this is gonna bug me the rest of my life 
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Mar 21, 2014 22:11
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Since the black boxes only have a limited amount of recording time, is it possible for something to happen to a plane, and then the plane stays aloft long enough that the moment the failure happened falls off the recording range of the tape?
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Mar 21, 2014 22:13
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Did anyone say Schrödinger's Plane yet?
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Mar 21, 2014 22:19
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brylcreem posted:Did anyone say Schrödinger's Plane yet? Lote posted:Yes, but the plane is both missing and not missing at the same time until someone sees it.
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Mar 21, 2014 22:20
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New audio from control panel and the plane communications has been released: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dc5Agb08xJA&t=208s It clears up a lot. There was definitely a problem with the plane and the pilot was ignoring warnings from the control tower.
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Mar 21, 2014 22:23
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gradenko_2000 posted:Since the black boxes only have a limited amount of recording time, is it possible for something to happen to a plane, and then the plane stays aloft long enough that the moment the failure happened falls off the recording range of the tape? That's what CNN has been reporting at least. Something about pilots unions negotiating for privacy protection.
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Mar 21, 2014 22:56
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I believe the black boxes only record the last two hours of flight audio, so all the good poo poo is gone since the theory is that the plane was in the air for way longer than that after whatever happened that caused it to go off course.
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Mar 21, 2014 22:59
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Butterfly Valley posted:Melbourne is where 99% of the Australians I've met that are worth a drat are from How's your arts degree going? The typical melbourne resident: 
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Mar 21, 2014 23:12
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Zogo posted:Then when you realize these "black boxes" have 8-track Doobie Brothers technology inside. Any commercial aircraft currently flying use solid-state technology. gradenko_2000 posted:Since the black boxes only have a limited amount of recording time, is it possible for something to happen to a plane, and then the plane stays aloft long enough that the moment the failure happened falls off the recording range of the tape? Yes, like Helios 522 & Payne Stewart's jet.
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CharlesM posted:Any commercial aircraft currently flying use solid-state technology. That's good to know. CNN said they were using cassettes still.
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