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I still think the jury's out on F4, since it has the potential to be a massive bomb. I don't think they can do much of anything to make the public at large give a poo poo about Fantastic Four. Maybe that X-Men crossover that was rumored, but ehh, I think it's in the same camp as something like Daredevil. Fake edit: The best Fantastic Four movie is still those episodes of Arrested Development. Hakkesshu fucked around with this message at 12:35 on Mar 21, 2014 |
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I love that the third wolverine movie is called The Wolverine 2 because the first one was just that lovely. Maybe if things get worse with Russia they can ramp up the jingoism with Fantastic Four just like the original comic for box office draw.
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Mar 21, 2014 13:31
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Hakkesshu posted:I still think the jury's out on F4, since it has the potential to be a massive bomb. I don't think they can do much of anything to make the public at large give a poo poo about Fantastic Four. Maybe that X-Men crossover that was rumored, but ehh, I think it's in the same camp as something like Daredevil. That's a weird way to spell the Incredibles.
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I swear I must be the only person who doesn't really care for The Incredibles 
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Mar 21, 2014 13:37
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If everyone liked the Incredibles then no one would.
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AnonSpore posted:The Life and Times of T'ohni Sz'takk, intergalactic genius billionaire playboy philanthropist
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TetsuoTW posted:Well now I just want to see Ghostface Killah in either a Star Wars film or an Avengers one. Marvel's greatest crime will always be removing his cameo from Iron Man. Waterhaul fucked around with this message at 14:51 on Mar 21, 2014 |
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Mar 21, 2014 13:49
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Hakkesshu posted:I swear I must be the only person who doesn't really care for The Incredibles I hate to be the one to tell you but Disney confirmed a few days ago that they're going to make The Incredibles 2.
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Hakkesshu posted:I still think the jury's out on F4, since it has the potential to be a massive bomb. I don't think they can do much of anything to make the public at large give a poo poo about Fantastic Four. Maybe that X-Men crossover that was rumored, but ehh, I think it's in the same camp as something like Daredevil. FF: Silver Surfer made almost twice it's budget back worldwide. I know fans hated them, hell I never even watched the second one, but they made bank.
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Hakkesshu posted:I swear I must be the only person who doesn't really care for The Incredibles It's the FF with some Watchmen references and sitcom jokes. It's ok. I liked Justice Friends better.
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Mar 21, 2014 15:38
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zoux posted:FF: Silver Surfer made almost twice it's budget back worldwide. I know fans hated them, hell I never even watched the second one, but they made bank. I'm pretty sure that twice it's budget worldwide isn't considered super great for a blockbuster, right? Most of them want to beat their budget on domestic gross alone.
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theflyingorc posted:I'm pretty sure that twice it's budget worldwide isn't considered super great for a blockbuster, right? Most of them want to beat their budget on domestic gross alone. It depends. Flopping in the States and making it big abroad doesn't always guarantee a sequel but in the last few years studios have finally realised that more people live outside than in the US. It's why a lot of big films get released in Europe first now.
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theflyingorc posted:I'm pretty sure that twice it's budget worldwide isn't considered super great for a blockbuster, right? Most of them want to beat their budget on domestic gross alone. It broke even in the States ($130m)
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theflyingorc posted:I'm pretty sure that twice it's budget worldwide isn't considered super great for a blockbuster, right? Most of them want to beat their budget on domestic gross alone. Especially when you factor in marketing, which tends to be quite a lot for a film on that scale. It probably still turned a profit, but it can't have generated a particularly impressive ROI, which explains why Fox has taken seven years to put another FF into production.
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I'm pretty sure they made their money back on FF 2 just from selling all that comarketing. Remember this is the movie where they literally stop for a second and give Dodge's catchphrase at the time (the Fantasticar has a "Hemi".)
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muscles like this? posted:I'm pretty sure they made their money back on FF 2 just from selling all that comarketing. Remember this is the movie where they literally stop for a second and give Dodge's catchphrase at the time (the Fantasticar has a "Hemi".) Oh, it probably DID make a profit overall - but that doesn't mean it performed at a level that executives are happy with. I'm pretty sure the baseline they like is somewhere around "broke even domestically", then they make a tidy profit off international screenings and merchandising. Remember - all the resources that were used in the making of FF2 could have potentially been used elsewhere to make a more profitable movie. (Fox probably ESPECIALLY doesn't like the return when they see how much The Avengers made.) Also, and this is important, Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer was awful and I hate it.
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I thought it was a decent set up to a FF versus Galactus movie up until it ended with Galactus chumpig out to the Surffer.
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SirDan3k posted:I thought it was a decent set up to a FF versus Galactus movie up until it ended with Galactus chumpig out to the Surffer. If they want to make a Silver Surfer movie they do not even need the FF. They just do SILVER SURFER THE ULTIMATE COSMIC EXPERIENCE!!!
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SirDan3k posted:I thought it was a decent set up to a FF versus Man, gently caress that movie
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Opopanax posted:Man, gently caress that movie Also Doom takes off his mask IMMEDIATELY. Wait, I think Doom uses the surfboard to make a tornado and literally says "It's time to go FOR A SPIN"? Galactus is barely in the thing. The only redeemable stuff in both movies was that the Johnny/Ben relationship was pretty good, even if it was one hell of a waste casting-wise to use Michael Chiklis if he doesn't get to play a guy who can murder you with a stare.
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I thought Doug Jones with Larry Fishburne's voice was an alright Silver Surfer. Even cloud Galactus would've been alright had they just let him take the proper Galactus shape correctly at the end (and didn't go down in the most hilarious way).
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I never bothered to go see it at the time and now I want to check it out to see if it's as bad as you guys say it is.
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The really crazy thing is some of the explanations given for Cloud-lactus. "Oh, well, maybe they didn't think an audience would take a huge guy trying to chew on Earth seriously..." In the movie with a naked silver space-surfer.
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:I never bothered to go see it at the time and now I want to check it out to see if it's as bad as you guys say it is. It's not like...aggressively awful. It's just incredibly lame and does everything it can to not do anything interesting. It's kinda bad in the same way Green Lantern was, but with a layer of cheesiness on top of the boring superhero movie. Also Johnny Storm gets this super lame power-stealing disease or something and at the end he's basically Super Skrull, but it's not awesome like that sounds like it would be?
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Elfface posted:The really crazy thing is some of the explanations given for Cloud-lactus. You know how a lot of things look better on the page?
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:I never bothered to go see it at the time and now I want to check it out to see if it's as bad as you guys say it is. The awfulness of Fantastic Four 2 isn't with the Galactus/Doom/Surfer stuff, it's just a standard lovely superhero film, but actually with the treatment of Jessica Alba who they "whitened" up for the role and was constantly berated by the director to look whiter and be more attractive when she was crying to the point that she basically retired from acting/public life till Rodriguez convinced her to do things again.
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Hakkesshu posted:I swear I must be the only person who doesn't really care for The Incredibles I think you are.
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Waterhaul posted:The awfulness of Fantastic Four 2 isn't with the Galactus/Doom/Surfer stuff, it's just a standard lovely superhero film, but actually with the treatment of Jessica Alba who they "whitened" up for the role and was constantly berated by the director to look whiter and be more attractive when she was crying to the point that she basically retired from acting/public life till Rodriguez convinced her to do things again. Who did they get John Byrne?
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How does one act whiter?
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How can you tell Jessica Alba to be more attractive? I mean, I think she's already at the top of the attractiveness scale. I hadn't heard that before. That's terrible.
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zoux posted:How does one act whiter? Make up, wigs, contacts. Jessica Alba in Fantastic Four 1  and Fantastic Four 2  It's pretty disgusting. Codependent Poster posted:How can you tell Jessica Alba to be more attractive? I mean, I think she's already at the top of the attractiveness scale. quote:The actress blames many of her underperforming movies on "first-time directors," though Fantastic Four helmer Tim Story bears the brunt of her ire; according to Alba, his direction during an emotional scene almost made her quit acting. "[He told me] 'It looks too real. It looks too painful. Can you be prettier when you cry? Cry pretty, Jessica.' He was like, 'Don't do that thing with your face. Just make it flat. We can CGI the tears in.'" Said the newly self-doubting Alba: "And then it all got me thinking: Am I not good enough? Are my instincts and my emotions not good enough? Do people hate them so much that they don't want me to be a person? Am I not allowed to be a person in my work? And so I just said, 'gently caress it. I don't care about this business anymore.'" source
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Waterhaul posted:The awfulness of Fantastic Four 2 isn't with the Galactus/Doom/Surfer stuff, it's just a standard lovely superhero film, but actually with the treatment of Jessica Alba who they "whitened" up for the role and was constantly berated by the director to look whiter and be more attractive when she was crying to the point that she basically retired from acting/public life till Rodriguez convinced her to do things again. That is really strange seeing that the director is black.
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Yea, thats really terrible. Alba's casting in FF always seemed like the studio looked though Entertainment Weekly and saw an article about how she's a hot new star and cast her purely for that. And what the films did with Doom is shameful. You take one of the most Iconic villains in comics and you completely ignore everything about what made him so popular. It would be like if someone made a remake of Star Wars and had Darth Vader being a wisecracking guy in a suit.
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twistedmentat posted:It would be like if someone made a remake of Star Wars and had Darth Vader being a wisecracking guy in a suit. "Obi-Wan never told you 'who's yo daddy', did he?"
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I always said that Chris Tucker should play Darth Vader and act like he did in the Fifth Element.
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twistedmentat posted:And what the films did with Doom is shameful. You take one of the most Iconic villains in comics and you completely ignore everything about what made him so popular. It would be like if someone made a remake of Star Wars and had Darth Vader being a wisecracking guy in a suit. The one line I remember is "This... is gonna be fun!" because it's such a Jack Nicholson Joker-type of line, but doesn't fit Doom at all.
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Metal Loaf posted:The one line I remember is "This... is gonna be fun!" because it's such a Jack Nicholson Joker-type of line, but doesn't fit Doom at all. DOOM does not use contractions or colloquialisms!
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If we are talking about badly done villains in movies I will always put Tommy Lee Jones as Two Face on the top of my list. Two Face is supposed to be a character of angst and anger and internal turmoil. Instead Jones tried to do his best Joker interpretation and tried out-overact Jim Carey in a portrayal that made little sense
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Waterhaul posted:Make up, wigs, contacts. I remember wondering if it was a different actress playing Sue because of how different she looked in 2. And also being amazed that she needed to look whiter considering she is transcendently beautiful.
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