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I don't buy it, sorry, the USSR used 25kV AC in a bunch of places (basically, wherever the ЧС4s ran), and Ukraine was a split 25kVAC-in-east/3kVDC-in-west system long before the collapse of the soviet union.
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Disgruntled Bovine posted:That does seem like a very Russian way of going about things. Yes, the 3TE-10, the best diesel. My dad's a big aircraft nut, but never understood what I saw in trains. Then I showed him this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEETEOcQW90 "OK", he said, "now I get it." English language info on the TE-10's kinda hard to come by, but from what I know they have one 3000hp opposed-cylinder diesel engine per unit, with both 2 and 3 unit locos being made. Opposed-cylinder engines are very lightweight and powerful, but require careful maintenance - or they do what you see in these videos. Apparently these locos are being re-engined with more conventional power units, which makes sense but is putting a stop to the smoke shows. If anyone knows more about them I'd be fascinated to hear, I think they're an amazing piece of industrial Gothic. Speaking of spectacular engines that have since been replaced, the original Paxman Valenta engines fitted to the British HST were pretty epic - the cooling fans and massive supercharger would make a deafening scream under load, and they had a tendency to spew smoke as well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKUdTDVAPCg They've since been re-engined, which is bad news for rail fans but I guess good news to people who had to work with them and value their hearing.
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Axeman Jim posted:opposed-cylinder diesel engine I think you mean opposed-piston, but not sure. Either way, ask your dad about the Junkers Jumo 205 engine sometime. I bet he knows all about it.
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I do indeed, it's just a bit late at night here... Opposed-piston engines are common in boats, particularly small warships, and as you pointed out they've even been tried in aircraft. They also powered the legendary "Deltics" (the most powerful diesel loco in the world when they appeared in 1959) and the Fairbanks-Morse FM24 Trainmaster, which was the most powerful production loco in North America for about 15 years after it was built. They're very powerful and compact, but not ideally suited to railway use as they're easy to stall if you're too heavy-handed with the throttle, as well as being generally complex and difficult to maintain. Twice in the last five years a Deltic has been literally hauled out of a museum because of a shortage of locomotives - there's one running in Scotland at the moment delivering new EMUs from the factory - being used to deliver units over 50 years their junior! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsNxjP5N4EI It's a testament to the Deltic design that no non-prototype locomotive with more engine horsepower entered service in the UK until 2010. (Some later classes had more power at the rail due to improvements in transmission efficiency over the years).
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Interesting story I heard about the Russian opposed piston diesels. We loaned them a couple of diesel powered icebreakers during WW2, and not terribly long after that they started building opposed piston diesel engined locomotives. These were very similar in design to the FM diesels, which were what those icebreakers happened to be powered by. Basically when you see a 3TE-10 you're seeing a more modern Fairbanks Morse locomotive, filtered through the Russian design process.
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Disgruntled Bovine posted:filtered through the Russian design process. So it looks bleak and very.... Russian-esque?
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Axeman Jim posted:Opposed-piston engines are common in boats, particularly small warships, and as you pointed out they've even been tried in aircraft. They also powered the legendary "Deltics" (the most powerful diesel loco in the world when they appeared in 1959) and the Fairbanks-Morse FM24 Trainmaster, which was the most powerful production loco in North America for about 15 years after it was built. They're very powerful and compact, but not ideally suited to railway use as they're easy to stall if you're too heavy-handed with the throttle, as well as being generally complex and difficult to maintain. Every Fairbanks-Morse built after WWII (which is to say basically all of them but there might have been a few early locomotives with a "regular" engine) had an opposed-piston engine. The Trainmaster (official designation H-24-66, if I remember right) had 2,400 horsepower from a single engine, which was tons - an EMD E9 had that output from two 567s on the same locomotive.
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Anyone here work or work at BNSF Corwith in Chicago?
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Today while searching google I discovered the Amrak Acela has a front coupler.  Apparently, it's hidden behind what I can only assume is a ridiculously expensive and complex mechanism. Does anyone have a video or animation of this thing opening? Do other high speed locomotives have this sort of mechanism?
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Crotch Fruit posted:Today while searching google I discovered the Amrak Acela has a front coupler. Yes, they do.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ale45XeMYwg It looks more like "docking" than coupling. (I'm so very sorry)
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NoWake posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ale45XeMYwg Ohhh high speed trains look so very strange with open nose cones 
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There's something distinctly... Weird.Mahmoud Ahmadinejad posted:Ohhh high speed trains look so very strange with open nose cones 
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Then you have the class 57 which has so much coupling junk that it manages to look more awkward than the pendolinos it's intended to rescue:
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Man, people give the US a lot of poo poo (sometimes rightfully) for not getting with the times on stuff like the metric system... and then I see a picture like that and remember that all of Europe outside the high speed stuff still uses fuckin' buffer-and-chain coupling.
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Cygni posted:Man, people give the US a lot of poo poo (sometimes rightfully) for not getting with the times on stuff like the metric system... and then I see a picture like that and remember that all of Europe outside the high speed stuff still uses fuckin' buffer-and-chain coupling. Don't let them get too uppity about it either, they may have high speed trains but the Germans and the French are the only ones who can make it run reliably.
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Pretty cool to see some other locomotive fans on SA. Just ran across this for steam fans: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Iy6rNMMN50 I think for me, the reason steam engine facinate me so much is how they were designed and built. It was done without a computer or most of the tools used no a days. Just moldings, eye balls, and brute force to make two parts fit together. And yet, the end result are these machines that can pull more than just themselves or one other car. And all the motion handled without a computer to say when it should open a steam valve or close them.
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Really the more advanced stuff didnt hit till the late 30s when super heaters and stuff came about. Then around 20 years later, steam ceased to exist, and diesel proved itself.
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JuffoWup posted:Pretty cool to see some other locomotive fans on SA. Its kind of funny that the guy taking the video tries really hard to avoid getting any diesel locos in the frame.
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BrokenKnucklez posted:Really the more advanced stuff didnt hit till the late 30s when super heaters and stuff came about. Then around 20 years later, steam ceased to exist, and diesel proved itself. Sadly
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MassivelyBuckNegro posted:Its kind of funny that the guy taking the video tries really hard to avoid getting any diesel locos in the frame. I've never understood why people get so upset about diesel locomotives on these trips. I guess my practicality and years of running trains, both with air brakes and dynamic brakes, makes me say, yeah, it's a good idea just to have it. Foamers get so drat butthurt about it.
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Tex Avery posted:I've never understood why people get so upset Tex Avery posted:Foamers That's pretty much why. Irrational obsession is a hell of a thing.
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To some they're trying to imagine the running as a reenactment of a historial 'event' that they can't get to any other way, breaking 'prototypical behaviour' by having diesels providing air or ETH or such, breaks that immersion, and ruins the reenactment for them. Same with running with the wrong livery coaches or such. It's super butthurt aspie to get upset about it, but it's understandable why it bothers them, in a way.
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 Until very recently this shop was still up and running, but has slowly been phased out and shut down.
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loving hell, you couldn't pay me to stand under that. Locomotives are interesting, they're big and heavy and everything they do lets you know about it. A diesel rattles your guts as it drives past, you can feel a steam locomotive rumble and breathe. All I'm saying is that part of the attraction to me is just how they make can make you a little nervous to stand next to. Not stand beneath.
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The big ACs, especially the GE's, at notch 8 moving a coal drag is a pretty sweet sound. You can actually feel the pounding roar in your chest as they go by, even just poking along at 15 mph.
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Some good WW2 videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-8gV4DJZUw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cipyPJJdnM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z70eRGy5sTo Some horror: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ioyl85MgFEA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHYBNlVV0cU Stupid truck drivers existed in 1928: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9gfZi2aHZ4 Fundamentalism vs Evolution... wtf. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_e-G9Osa5Oo Unusual place to find a train: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcQcyGtbuc8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iciHkbkVU8c Steam Trains of Australia: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdtojwvCCrQ Anarchist Mae fucked around with this message at 22:03 on Mar 23, 2014 |
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Measly Twerp posted:loving hell, you couldn't pay me to stand under that. Time to (re?)post this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvyIrsZ7Zhs
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^^^ YEAP. I mean OH gently caress poo poo. I have to add this too, some really good videography of the Southern Express tourist train that runs from the Adelaide hills to the base of the Fleurieu Peninsula, South Australia: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lStw9PrZWS4 Here's a gallery I made about SAR 520 Sir Malcolm Barclay Harvey, an engine that'll probably never move again.
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BrokenKnucklez posted:The big ACs, especially the GE's, at notch 8 moving a coal drag is a pretty sweet sound. You can actually feel the pounding roar in your chest as they go by, even just poking along at 15 mph. Agreed, especially the feeling of those ES44s pulling a hot Z at 70 mph, blowing dust in your face only 5 minutes after you gave the main back to the DS 
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One of the Chicago 'L' trains derailed last night at the O'Hare stop. Chicago Fire Commissioner Jose Santiago said "The train actually climbed over the last stop, jumped up on the sidewalk and then went up the stairs and escalator." At least it happened at 3 AM, 32 injuries total, no serious injuries (the 6 worst are listed in fair condition). I've been on that platform in the middle of the day when it's full of commuters. It could have been much worse. Edit: worse =/= worst.
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Silly CTA train, thinks it's people.
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sincx posted:For those of you that work for the railroads, what are your companies' and your personal opinion of Amtrak trains? And still it was 15 hours late...
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Ron Pauls Friend posted:Nothing says tomorrow better than your mid-60's "modernist" HQ that looks just as in place in Jacksonville as it does in Moscow with a hammer and sickle on it. Looks a lot like the Ford world headquarters 
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sincx posted:For those of you that work for the railroads, what are your companies' and your personal opinion of Amtrak trains? For us maintainance crews it can be tough, at least the territory I work in. It's tough to get any work done during the daytime, so most things like rail change out, welding, and surfacing have to be done at night. It can be stressful trying to get work done when AMTK is lined up and you have to finish up before it gets held up. Holding up Amtrak is the cardinal sin out here, as it means big fines. It is the same deal in SoCal, Just throw in Metrolink on top of amtrak and it can get busy. My personal opinion is that there should be 2 mains on all Amtrak territory to run more trains. Here in NorCal most of the BNSF is single main.
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