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Desert Bus
May 9, 2004

Take 1 tablet by mouth daily.

demonR6 posted:

I have IAL if you need some..

And I have a garbage bag full of Oak leaves that have been in my closet for like 3 years. Assuming anything undesirable would have died off by now.

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Bait and Swatch
Sep 5, 2012

Join me, Comrades
In the Star Citizen D&D thread

demonR6 posted:

I have IAL if you need some..

Thanks for the offer, but I got a load of mulberry leaves from a friend.

JuffoWup
Mar 28, 2012

Desert Bus posted:

Help me FW Aquarium thread! I need a 30" light fixture that puts out at least 60 watts at 6700k. If it can accept a 21" Compact Fluorescent bulb with a straight 4 pin connecter so much the better, so my spare bulb doesn't go to waste. Coralife discontinued my fixture, and I have no idea what I'm doing in terms of trying to find new lighting except knowing how many watts I need and what color spectrum I want.

Edit: Never mind, going to bite the bullet and go LED. Welcome to the future, me. So If anyone has anything to say about LED lights for FW tanks, that'd be cool.

The only ones I know of that I might rcommend for led fixtures is the fugeray series. Possibly the build my led stuff as well (not used them personally though, and only interested since they can link into my apex controller). However, BML only lists 6300 and 7k lightning options. They might be able to custom one for you though. The real fun is getting a calculator to convert your old understanding of watts per gallon to PAR (Photosynthetic Active Radiation).

Are you enamored to a bar light though? Stepping out of those, there is kessel and some other brands that do either targetted or tablet style lights. You either hang these are use a mount that attaches to the tank.

demonR6
Sep 4, 2012

There are too many stupid people in the world. I'm not saying we should kill them all or anything. Just take the warning labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself.

Lipstick Apathy

Bait and Swatch posted:

Thanks for the offer, but I got a load of mulberry leaves from a friend.

No problem. Offer stands if anyone needs IAL. I have about 75 leaves.. I bought them for my bettas and placed a rather large order so I would not have to continually buy them every couple of months.

Lacrosse
Jun 16, 2010

>:V


JuffoWup posted:

The only ones I know of that I might rcommend for led fixtures is the fugeray series. Possibly the build my led stuff as well (not used them personally though, and only interested since they can link into my apex controller). However, BML only lists 6300 and 7k lightning options. They might be able to custom one for you though. The real fun is getting a calculator to convert your old understanding of watts per gallon to PAR (Photosynthetic Active Radiation).

Are you enamored to a bar light though? Stepping out of those, there is kessel and some other brands that do either targetted or tablet style lights. You either hang these are use a mount that attaches to the tank.

I got a ray 2 since I have a deeper tank. It has a stronger PAR for more plant growth, but it did end up washing out everything in my tank since it only has blue/white LEDs. I'm definitely going to have to get a monster ray or some other color enhancing bulb to go along with it.

The Fugeray planted + did look a lot nicer visually, but you lose a pretty good chunk of PAR, so it's a tradeoff.

Jekub
Jul 21, 2006

April, May, June, July and August fool
Nothing has died for 24 hours, quite happy about that. It's not been a good week.

All fish are looking very active and eating well again, the Banded Rainbows developed a bacterial growth, horrible white stuff on eyes and gills, so the whole tank is now being treated. I was also advised to add a half does of salt along with it. It seems to be receding now which is good to see.

I am starting to suspect that something nasty may have piggybacked in with the guppies and caused all of this.

demonR6
Sep 4, 2012

There are too many stupid people in the world. I'm not saying we should kill them all or anything. Just take the warning labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself.

Lipstick Apathy

Jekub posted:

Nothing has died for 24 hours, quite happy about that. It's not been a good week.

All fish are looking very active and eating well again, the Banded Rainbows developed a bacterial growth, horrible white stuff on eyes and gills, so the whole tank is now being treated. I was also advised to add a half does of salt along with it. It seems to be receding now which is good to see.

I am starting to suspect that something nasty may have piggybacked in with the guppies and caused all of this.

Did you quarantine prior to adding them to your aquarium?

Lacrosse
Jun 16, 2010

>:V




I'm really digging my new Finnex Ray 2 light. I had an old dual NO T8 fluorescent strip on my 38 gallon. I got tired of buying new bulbs, so I hadn't changed them out in over 2 years. I'm really happy that I don't need to buy new bulbs every 6 months.

Ray 2 vs Fugeray Planted +: I saw both of them in person so I could see the difference in action. The Ray 2 washes all of the color out of everything in my tank. When I look at the tank, it looks overwhelmingly green; even my bright orange goldfish! I definitely am going to need a color enhancing bulb before I can fully enjoy my fish again. Plant growth is A+ though. The Fugeray made the plants and fish look better, but didn't have nearly as strong light at 24" deep compared to the Ray 2. I had a deeper tank, so I decided to go with the Ray 2. The 36" gets me about 50 PAR at 24", whereas the Planted + only gets 31 PAR at the same depth.

Speaking of that goldfish, will you look at this thing? It has such a tiny head.



I raised this one and another one that were accidental bucket babies. I trimmed some plants from the parents' tank and threw them in a bucket. I found some fry not long after and raised them in my Walstad planted bowl. The other goldfish has a derpy lopsided face. They both should've been culls, but I only had 2 of them and didn't have the heart so I decided to keep them.

The huge adults I had both died after what I suspect was caused by swallowed gravel. The big orange one died almost immediately overnight, and my huge black moor sank to the bottom and couldn't swim for several months before she finally died. I thought about euthanizing her, but she seemed otherwise happy sitting on the bottom until she succumbed.

My nasty pet store aquarium gravel does no good for the plants, and it's starting to chip anyway so I'm ready to replace it. Amazon had 20# bags of eco-complete for $17 USD, so I bought 2 bags. It arrived 2 days ahead of schedule, but I'm too busy to put it in right now.
:negative:

I hope if the goldfish accidentally swallow some of the eco-complete when they get bigger they'll be able to pass it. I really don't want to do bare tank, but I'd be willing to get sand if I have to. I wanted aquasoil but there's no way I could afford it.

In closing, here's a picture of my tiniest Borneo loach to brighten your day:

Lacrosse fucked around with this message at 04:02 on Mar 20, 2014

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

Hillstream loaches are great. Such goofy looking guys, though your goldfish probably takes that crown in your home. :stare:

jmnmu
Nov 21, 2004
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So I have a 20 gallon tank with three older harlequin rasboras and one young opaline gourami. It has been up and running for a good 2-3 months. I'm looking to add some fish to take care of algae growth because my fishtank faces some sunlight and I can't move it anywhere else. Any recommendations on fish that would fit the tank, get along with the tankmates, and keep some of the algae growth down? Here's a pic, although keep in mind I just cleaned out all of the algae. It builds up and I have to clean it off every 2 weeks.

jmnmu fucked around with this message at 07:43 on Mar 20, 2014

Jekub
Jul 21, 2006

April, May, June, July and August fool

demonR6 posted:

Did you quarantine prior to adding them to your aquarium?

Unfortunately not. I've only used one specialist supplier for all the fish who quarantine all new stock for two weeks prior to sale in the hope that would be enough. In this case they were in the main tank for two or three weeks before all this started and were not the first to start showing problems. I need to start better record keeping on the tank I think.

I suspect I am going to be investing in a quarantine tank before we add anything new. I assume you set it up as and when needed using water from the main tank rather than having to run it constantly? I'll have to see if I can get another small pump and keep it's sponge in the main tanks canister filter for that purpose.

demonR6
Sep 4, 2012

There are too many stupid people in the world. I'm not saying we should kill them all or anything. Just take the warning labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself.

Lipstick Apathy

Jekub posted:

Unfortunately not. I've only used one specialist supplier for all the fish who quarantine all new stock for two weeks prior to sale in the hope that would be enough. In this case they were in the main tank for two or three weeks before all this started and were not the first to start showing problems. I need to start better record keeping on the tank I think.

I suspect I am going to be investing in a quarantine tank before we add anything new. I assume you set it up as and when needed using water from the main tank rather than having to run it constantly? I'll have to see if I can get another small pump and keep it's sponge in the main tanks canister filter for that purpose.

I had one scare where I introduced a loach into my 55 and within a week the entire population was overrun with Ich. I learned my lesson and bought a 10 gallon quarantine tank with a hang on back filter and a heater. Bare bottom is fine since it serves a purpose. I would really consider that as the cost of a small tanks and supplies is less than the headache you would have if your aquarium suffers from something terrible you brought in from some other source. I even QT the plants in that tank now to be sure there are no hitchhiking snails and such after I treat the plants.

Zandorv
Nov 22, 2011

Well, it's happened: three of my cherry barbs have ich. The water quality is good- this past Saturday it was at 0,0,5 ppm ammonia, nitrite, and nitrate, respectively. I'll check it again when I get home. I've already started turning the temperature up- it's normally around 78, I'm turning it up 1 degree every hour (although I won't be able to turn it up again until I get home around 3:00). I'll also set up a quarantine tank once I get home.

Right now, it looks like it's just one of my males and two of my females, and one of the females only has two or three spots (the other two are covered). I don't think my albino Bristlenose pleco has it, but he won't come out from under the driftwood so I can't get a better look. The rest of my cherry barbs are fine.

My question is: what kind of treatment should I use (especially in my main tank) given the pleco and the driftwood and java fern I have in the tank? I've heard good things about Rid Ich +, but I've also heard it stains things blue, and while I'm not terribly concerned about my silicone, I'd rather not have permanently blue driftwood. Right now I have something called Ox-Ich, but I'm hesitant to use it on my pleco since it says to do a half-dose for sensitive fish like plecos.

My second question is: does the driftwood affect the way I should treat the tank? For example, could the ich nest in the driftwood, making it harder to get out?

Edit: a third, related question: I get all my fish from my local Pet Supplies Plus, but I try to special order them instead of getting them straight from the store's tanks because the store's tanks are nasty- constantly dead fish in there nobody took out, around 15 gourami in a 10-gallon tank- one of the freshwater angels last week clearly had ich. I always assumed that fish coming straight from the source (sunpet) would be much less likely to have disease, and since cherries are schooling fish, I didn't want to quarantine just one for two weeks, so I went ahead and put him in the tank, but I think he's probably where the ich came from since my water conditions are good and until I put him in all the other fish were healthy. Was I right in thinking that special ordered fish that never come into contact with fish store tanks are less likely to carry disease and parasites, or am I fooling myself?

Zandorv fucked around with this message at 16:42 on Mar 20, 2014

demonR6
Sep 4, 2012

There are too many stupid people in the world. I'm not saying we should kill them all or anything. Just take the warning labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself.

Lipstick Apathy

Zandorv posted:

My question is: what kind of treatment should I use (especially in my main tank) given the pleco and the driftwood and java fern I have in the tank? I've heard good things about Rid Ich +, but I've also heard it stains things blue, and while I'm not terribly concerned about my silicone, I'd rather not have permanently blue driftwood. Right now I have something called Ox-Ich, but I'm hesitant to use it on my pleco since it says to do a half-dose for sensitive fish like plecos.

My second question is: does the driftwood affect the way I should treat the tank? For example, could the ich nest in the driftwood, making it harder to get out?

I used the Rid Ich and it did the job. I have a rather large piece of driftwood and it did turn the water a purplish blue but nothing terrible happened to the driftwood or the stones in the tank for that matter. I did the full treatment according to the instructions and hit it again for a second pass two weeks later because it gets in the substrate as well so better safe than sorry since they want the gravel vacuumed and that is just not possible in my tank.

Git Mah Belt Son
Apr 26, 2003

Happy Happy Gators

jimmynmu posted:

So I have a 20 gallon tank with three older harlequin rasboras and one young opaline gourami. It has been up and running for a good 2-3 months. I'm looking to add some fish to take care of algae growth because my fishtank faces some sunlight and I can't move it anywhere else. Any recommendations on fish that would fit the tank, get along with the tankmates, and keep some of the algae growth down? Here's a pic, although keep in mind I just cleaned out all of the algae. It builds up and I have to clean it off every 2 weeks.



A trio of otocinclus would probably be perfect for your setup. They love algae and don't get big at all. They're also friendly with just about everything.

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

Otos are great algae eaters, but it seems common for them to leave harder algae types in favour of soft algaes. A dwarf pleco might also be an option, but you'll have to supplement feeding once it scours your tank.

Eifert Posting
Apr 1, 2007

Most of the time he catches it every time.
Grimey Drawer
One of my ottos divebombed my new A. Agassizii male just yesterday and thunked off him like a stone. Weird, maybe he can't see, or maybe the appisto said something rude about his mother. I watched the tank for another 15 minutes to see if it was isolated and as far as I can tell it was the only time he did it.



Killer Otos. :kimchi:

unprofessional
Apr 26, 2007
All business.
Pico-tank I'm trying. Ends up being about three gallons. 3 danios, 4 amano shrimp, some hitchhiker snails. I change about a gallon of water a day, using distilled water. Still trying to find the right balance of light for plant health/limited algae, but we'll see. It's definitely a bit of an experiment.

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durrneez
Feb 20, 2013

I like fish. I like to eat fish. I like to brush fish with a fish hairbrush. Do you like fish too?
This is cool how did you make it!!!!!

unprofessional
Apr 26, 2007
All business.
Just a $10 glass thing I found at TJ Maxx that I thought might be a cool tank. Used it in the past for growing plants semi-hydroponically. I advise/counsel at a college, and students seem to really love it. The fish get their attention, then they spend the rest of the time trying to find the shrimp.

demonR6
Sep 4, 2012

There are too many stupid people in the world. I'm not saying we should kill them all or anything. Just take the warning labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself.

Lipstick Apathy
Two items.. I would switch from distilled to spring or R/O water. Most grocery stores or even super Wal-Marts have those machines that fill gallon or five gallon containers, I would suggest switching to that as distilled water is not the best for your aquarium. Distilled water is terrible for aquariums, every fish forum I have ever been on has rallied vehemently against it. Distilled has no trace elements,will cause instability in the tank and cause pH crashes to boot.

Second, do you have at least a bubbler so the fish can get air? There needs to be some sort of air provided for the creatures in your aquarium. Plants will work but you need a lot more than a couple for what you are stocking.

Other than that, looks good. I have two bowls running now along with my other larger aquariums. Bowls and nano aquariums are harder to maintain being so small that anything going out of whack will result in disaster. Good luck!!

Cowslips Warren
Oct 29, 2005

What use had they for tricks and cunning, living in the enemy's warren and paying his price?

Grimey Drawer
And I feel bad for the danios, because a 3 gallon 'tall' like that really is poo poo room, and they need a school instead of a trio. But hey, at least it's not a goldfish.

Enos Cabell
Nov 3, 2004


Thanks to a buy 2 get 1 deal going at petsmart, my new project tank is stocked and ready.

40 neon tetras
12 "glo-fish" tetras
6 cory cats (3 albino)
3 dwarf gourami's
and a dozen or so ghost shrimp

It's so dumb, but extremely hypnotic to sit and watch.


DSC_6859.jpg by meramsey, on Flickr


DSC_6858.jpg by meramsey, on Flickr


DSC_6857.jpg by meramsey, on Flickr


DSC_6854.jpg by meramsey, on Flickr

Eifert Posting
Apr 1, 2007

Most of the time he catches it every time.
Grimey Drawer
Definitely not my thing, but it does definitely have a strange charm to it.



Has anyone else seen the territorial posture of Appistos? It's adorable. They turn their back on the offending fish, do jazz fins with their tail up, and moonwalk [swim?] towards the offending party. I can't imagine anything less intimidating.

Thalamas
Dec 5, 2003

Sup?
That tank is delightful, Goldmund. The diver is a great touch.

Enos Cabell
Nov 3, 2004


We've taken to calling it the 80s fever dream tank. I'm on the hunt for a Creature From the Black Lagoon decoration, then I'll be all set. Gonna see if I can put up a short video later, it really needs to be seen in motion.

Chicken in Black
May 22, 2005

So lovely
Good God, now I want to set up a tank like that. I bought a color changing LED bubble wand for my 20g guppy tank and am now searching for a larger one for my 55.

I've got a question about Columbian tetras (Hyphessobrycon colimbianus). We've kept them for several years and unless they kill themselves by smashing into the sides of the tank they all eventually get strange black blotches and spots, fade out, then croak. It doesn't seem to be black spot disease, and really they don't usually act sick or anything, just get spotted and die. I've treated them for disease over the years, never seen it spread to other fish, and have completely broke down, cleaned and disinfected tanks only to have this occur to the next group of Columbians.

Does anyone else ever have this? I like them and it just makes me sad to see the spots appear, it's only older fish that get it and I'm thinking it's probably really due to age more than illness. We just lost one we've had for 4 years to it, and the remaining one went from almost no spotting to lots of them in rapid progression, about 2 weeks. It means curtains for the poor old bastard :sigh:

Lacrosse
Jun 16, 2010

>:V


argh one of my stupid goldfish is floating upside down. Been that way for days. The mother of this fish had this same problem, but at least she would eat peas. I can't get this one to, and I'm starting to worry because he's got a bloody spot on his belly that appeared yesterday. I put him in a little rubbermaid container as a hospital tank with a little aquarium salt thrown in.

Aside from peas what are my other options? Force feeding mineral oil is a suggestion I found on a forum elsewhere, but I haven't tried it yet.

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

Stupid question, but have you removed the skin from the cooked peas or tried mashing them a little first?

Bait and Swatch
Sep 5, 2012

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In the Star Citizen D&D thread

KillerChicken posted:

I've got a question about Columbian tetras (Hyphessobrycon colimbianus). We've kept them for several years and unless they kill themselves by smashing into the sides of the tank they all eventually get strange black blotches and spots, fade out, then croak. It doesn't seem to be black spot disease, and really they don't usually act sick or anything, just get spotted and die. I've treated them for disease over the years, never seen it spread to other fish, and have completely broke down, cleaned and disinfected tanks only to have this occur to the next group of Columbians.

Does anyone else ever have this? I like them and it just makes me sad to see the spots appear, it's only older fish that get it and I'm thinking it's probably really due to age more than illness. We just lost one we've had for 4 years to it, and the remaining one went from almost no spotting to lots of them in rapid progression, about 2 weeks. It means curtains for the poor old bastard :sigh:

I've seen posts similar to this on other aquarium forums from time to time, all in regards to black spots appearing on columbian tetras. I've never seen anyone post an answer to what exactly it is, though the conclusion is usually the same as yours, in that it's age related. It causes a lot of people to give up on the species, which is too bad since they are great fish.

Lacrosse posted:

argh one of my stupid goldfish is floating upside down. Been that way for days. The mother of this fish had this same problem, but at least she would eat peas. I can't get this one to, and I'm starting to worry because he's got a bloody spot on his belly that appeared yesterday. I put him in a little rubbermaid container as a hospital tank with a little aquarium salt thrown in.

Aside from peas what are my other options? Force feeding mineral oil is a suggestion I found on a forum elsewhere, but I haven't tried it yet.

You can try some of the frozen cubes that have spirulina and shrimp in it, that usually provides some help. You can also try some aquarium salt, as that can supposedly help relieve constipation. If he hasn't eaten for more than a few days, it is likely related to an internal parasite. You may need antibiotics or some of the other medicines out there. This chart should give you a start point in trying to determine what route to take: http://www.fishnet.org/sick-fish-chart.htm

Enos Cabell
Nov 3, 2004


Here's a short video of the tank, with the thunderstorm program running on my led lights.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Lb_3Fij6Yk

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


Goldmund posted:

Here's a short video of the tank, with the thunderstorm program running on my led lights.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Lb_3Fij6Yk

Very nice. I might do the same thing with a spare tank I got.

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

Oh god it's hideous, yet I cant stop watching.

Enos Cabell
Nov 3, 2004


The sad thing is, I'll bet 90% of the people I have over will like that tank more than the other "boring" ones.

Maybe I should convert my 120g to something like that. I bet I could get 300+ tetras in there. :getin:

Chichevache
Feb 17, 2010

One of the funniest posters in GIP.

Just not intentionally.

Goldmund posted:

Here's a short video of the tank, with the thunderstorm program running on my led lights.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Lb_3Fij6Yk

Speed up the light flashes and play some skrillex, please.

Bait and Swatch
Sep 5, 2012

Join me, Comrades
In the Star Citizen D&D thread

Chichevache posted:

Speed up the light flashes and play some skrillex, please.

You should tie the light flashes to the music, like the houses with christmas lights. If you can get the fish to swim along with the bass, you'll be internet-famous.

Thalamas
Dec 5, 2003

Sup?
I think the dominant male rosy barb shredded the pectoral fin of the other male in the tank. It was either him or my opaline gourami. Poor guy. He seems to be holding up okay, but half the fin is down to the spines and he's sticking to the part of the tank with the lowest water flow. Thankfully, all of the other fish have been leaving him alone. Wish I had a hospital tank for him. :(

Enos Cabell
Nov 3, 2004


Thalamas posted:

I think the dominant male rosy barb shredded the pectoral fin of the other male in the tank. It was either him or my opaline gourami. Poor guy. He seems to be holding up okay, but half the fin is down to the spines and he's sticking to the part of the tank with the lowest water flow. Thankfully, all of the other fish have been leaving him alone. Wish I had a hospital tank for him. :(

All you really need is a heater, an air stone and any kind of container (I've used plastic tubs before). I've currently got a swallowtail peacock getting the "melafix spa" treatment in a hospital tank, and he's almost completely regrown all of his fins. Poor guy lasted one day in my main tank, and had all of his fins eaten off overnight. He was bobbing around upside down and vertical in the tank, barely able to move at all, and I thought he was a goner for sure. Now not even three weeks later he is healthy and looks almost good as new.

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


Anyone in the Bay Area CA want a 55 plexiglass with stand and hood? Built in wet/dry with working pump and coral light. It's in used condition but works and it's free. Just shoot me a PM.

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Git Mah Belt Son
Apr 26, 2003

Happy Happy Gators
I set up a small aquarium at work (2.5g) to keep a betta (this makes 4 active aquariums now...). I ended up picking up one of the strangest, weirdest looking bettas I've ever seen. He's in that so odd he's sort of cute category. His eyes are huge and the lack of pigment in his face makes him what I think is pretty unique.



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