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CainFortea
Oct 15, 2004


padijun posted:

wait, ev0ke were actual nazis? I thought that video was a joke

It says it right in the video. ev0ke are literally nazis.

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Foehammer007
Dec 7, 2011

by Pragmatica
The video is full of nothing but truth.

Riot Bimbo
Dec 28, 2006


Seriously? Nobody posted it yet? Let me fix this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdJqBBb4yO4

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



hemophilia posted:

Seriously? Nobody posted it yet? Let me fix this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdJqBBb4yO4

This video makes me laugh every time :laffo:

Spiteski
Aug 27, 2013



hemophilia posted:

Seriously? Nobody posted it yet? Let me fix this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdJqBBb4yO4

Holy poo poo this is the best thing.
Mister Vee is portrayed perfectly.

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



Alexzandvar posted:

The whole salvaging/looting thing brings up an interesting question, the nerf in the summer expansion will almost make the mods you loot from npc wrecks almost worthless (except faction of course), so what will newbies do after that?

Exploration I guess. Salvaging/scavenging anoms will be pretty much dead though, so I hope they increase relic sites to compensate. (Data sites are worth precisely dick)

Doublestep
Sep 8, 2013

Keep on keeping on!
Delve relic sites. Armor plates are delicious.

Foehammer007
Dec 7, 2011

by Pragmatica
Blackops surfing is the best. :freep:

Riot Bimbo
Dec 28, 2006


orange juche posted:

This video makes me laugh every time :laffo:

I'm pretty sure goonswarm propaganda peaked with that video and might never be topped again. The one semi-serious one with the soviet imagery with Prokofiev in the background was okay, but this is still pretty much the best creative output a goon has ever done for Eve.

girl dick energy
Sep 30, 2009

You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?

hemophilia posted:

I'm pretty sure goonswarm propaganda peaked with that video and might never be topped again. The one semi-serious one with the soviet imagery with Prokofiev in the background was okay, but this is still pretty much the best creative output a goon has ever done for Eve.
This one?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVX6xaMr-YU

I'm still a big fan of
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vfv1QtZDirY

Riot Bimbo
Dec 28, 2006



Yeah that's the one, and Suas stands alone. And now that I think about it, Boat's Oddity is quite good and was a nice jewel of the Fountain war.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dp0-I7P2uyU

Evoke are nazis still needs to be redone with a new opponent somehow, though.

suck my woke dick
Oct 10, 2012

:siren:I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!:siren:

Put this cum-loving slave on ignore immediately!

hemophilia posted:

Evoke are nazis still needs to be redone with a new opponent somehow, though.

TEST are literally Nazis should have been made when they were still relevant :haw:.

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



blowfish posted:

TEST are literally Nazis should have been made when they were still relevant :haw:.

The joke is that Ev0ke are German. It's wasted on USTZ heavy TEST.

Riot Bimbo
Dec 28, 2006


I'm not an expert on German culture but I learned enough of the language and modern culture to know that many Germans flip their loving poo poo if you call or imply they're Nazis, too. That video probably really, really pissed off more than a few people in ev0ke.

If another video was made in that vein, it'd probably have to be against someone like finfleet or one of those regional shitlord corps that are all scattered in n3 now. That's if you wanted to piss on nationality and culture, it'd be easier and probably funnier to just focus on how poo poo our enemies are in other ways. I'm just not funny or talented enough to do it myself so I can only lament someone more clever than me hasn't done it. vOv

edit: or a new video could still be about ev0ke and it'd probably be even funnier given their current state.

xlr82xs
Sep 9, 2008
I might grab some video editing software on Monday and try my hand at making a TEST are hillbillies or clansmen. That would push American buttons wouldn't it ?

Carth Dookie
Jan 28, 2013

xlr82xs posted:

I might grab some video editing software on Monday and try my hand at making a TEST are hillbillies or clansmen. That would push American buttons wouldn't it ?

It would be better if you somehow made them look like Fedora wearing pedophiles. They are redditors after all.

xlr82xs
Sep 9, 2008

darth cookie posted:

It would be better if you somehow made them look like Fedora wearing pedophiles. They are redditors after all.

I'm more comfortable consuming reams of KKK and redneck video than I am watching anything that fedora wearing bronies are likely to be featured in.

I'm not sure I could bring myself to watch enough to find something suitable and then edit together.

Edit :
I could do something with a "To catch a predator" theme I guess, with the guy being TEST coming with hopes of meeting BNI.

Tim Jong-un
Aug 22, 2008

:shepface:God I fucking love Diablo 3 gold, it even paid for this shitty title:shepface:

I have been probing down a decelerating freighter for nearly 3 hours now,he logged off ages ago but is still careening away from the sun that he warped too. Hes slowing gradually.

Foehammer007
Dec 7, 2011

by Pragmatica

hemophilia posted:

Yeah that's the one, and Suas stands alone. And now that I think about it, Boat's Oddity is quite good and was a nice jewel of the Fountain war.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dp0-I7P2uyU

Evoke are nazis still needs to be redone with a new opponent somehow, though.

Isn't Evoke dead as gently caress now?

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



Foehammer007 posted:

Isn't Evoke dead as gently caress now?

Nah, they still gently caress around in NPC null.

A Lone Girl Flier
Sep 29, 2009

This post is dedicated to all those who fell by the forums, for nothing is wasted, and every apparent failure is but a challenge to others.

Alexzandvar posted:

The whole salvaging/looting thing brings up an interesting question, the nerf in the summer expansion will almost make the mods you loot from npc wrecks almost worthless (except faction of course), so what will newbies do after that?

Here's something I posted earlier:

Waldo P Barnstormer posted:

Regarding the nerf to newbie looting, check this post on the EVE forums: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4366456#post4366456

FAT32 SHAMER
Aug 16, 2012



Elmnt80 posted:

Which would just further support any accusation that CCP has a neo-nazi on its GM staff.

Icelandic people are notoriously xenophobic to the point that they have a council to purify their language from english-isms and scandinavian-isms (veðurfræði literally means "weather science", translates to meteorology compared to norwegian meteorologi, danish meteorologi, swedish meteorologi) so idk why you're shocked that Icelandic GM's are potentially neo-nazis

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



In the ongoing saga of ahab and his whale, Tim the Enchanter has almost caught up with the freighter, it's down to 85km/s.


EDIT: the freighter was EMPTY! :aaaaa:

orange juche fucked around with this message at 11:03 on Mar 22, 2014

Riot Bimbo
Dec 28, 2006


I thought CCP's english speaking GM staff was employed stateside in their georgia office? Seems weird and like it would be difficult to find enough fluent english and multi-lingual speakers to do all the customer service out of iceland.

Either way, their actions regarding nazi stuff is super inconsistent and seemingly case-by case. I remember some goon organized his pos mods in the shape of a swastika and had to have them moved. I mentioned a few pages back that I got a temp ban for saying "mein fuehrer" in a CSM candidacy thread; a german phrase that, while has obvious modern ties to Nazism, Fuehrer isn't a loving title that is or was reserved exclusively for Adolf Hitler. So they let some strangely blantant poo poo slide, and they come down hard on other seemingly innocuous or jokey things. It's hard to get a bead on what their internal policies on this stuff is honestly, but it's unfair to insinuate Iceland are a bunch of nazis for trying to preserve their language and heritage. Nationalism isn't quite as terrible as national socialism.

FAT32 SHAMER
Aug 16, 2012



hemophilia posted:

I thought CCP's english speaking GM staff was employed stateside in their georgia office? Seems weird and like it would be difficult to find enough fluent english and multi-lingual speakers to do all the customer service out of iceland.

Either way, their actions regarding nazi stuff is super inconsistent and seemingly case-by case. I remember some goon organized his pos mods in the shape of a swastika and had to have them moved. I mentioned a few pages back that I got a temp ban for saying "mein fuehrer" in a CSM candidacy thread; a german phrase that, while has obvious modern ties to Nazism, Fuehrer isn't a loving title that is or was reserved exclusively for Adolf Hitler. So they let some strangely blantant poo poo slide, and they come down hard on other seemingly innocuous or jokey things. It's hard to get a bead on what their internal policies on this stuff is honestly, but it's unfair to insinuate Iceland are a bunch of nazis for trying to preserve their language and heritage. Nationalism isn't quite as terrible as national socialism.

I thought the Georgia office got closed years ago. Pretty much all Icelandic people 30+ speak English and they need jobs on their puny island so I doubt they'd outsource that kind of thing :v:

But yes you are right they are super inconsistent (probably because they have a few American GM's)

Iceland is a pretty awesome place but they are extremely odd and have a national registry to check and make sure the girlie you're eyeing at the pub isn't your blood relative so that kind of says a few things that can be taken in multiple ways on either side :v:

FAT32 SHAMER fucked around with this message at 11:07 on Mar 22, 2014

Libluini
May 18, 2012

I gravitated towards the Greens, eventually even joining the party itself.

The Linke is a party I grudgingly accept exists, but I've learned enough about DDR-history I can't bring myself to trust a party that was once the SED, a party leading the corrupt state apparatus ...
Grimey Drawer

Tusen Takk posted:

Icelandic people are notoriously xenophobic to the point that they have a council to purify their language from english-isms and scandinavian-isms (veðurfræði literally means "weather science", translates to meteorology compared to norwegian meteorologi, danish meteorologi, swedish meteorologi) so idk why you're shocked that Icelandic GM's are potentially neo-nazis

France does its best to purify its language from english-isms, too. By your logic that would make the French potential Nazis, too.

hemophilia posted:


I mentioned a few pages back that I got a temp ban for saying "mein fuehrer" in a CSM candidacy thread; a german phrase that, while has obvious modern ties to Nazism, Fuehrer isn't a loving title that is or was reserved exclusively for Adolf Hitler. So they let some strangely blantant poo poo slide, and they come down hard on other seemingly innocuous or jokey things.

Sadly this isn't as harmless as you might think, at least in Germany many Neo-Nazis use that kind of logic to claim saying stuff like "Heil Hitler" or "Mein Führer" was totally meant only as a joke, you guys. So I can kind of understand CCP cracking down on this kind of poo poo, since from their perspective it's hard to tell if some guy was just trying to make a joke or a Nazi forgetting that he wasn't on Stormfront anymore.

Phobophilia
Apr 26, 2008

by Hand Knit
Considering how much ironic racism goes on in Goonswarm what with the Jewbal, I think CCP takes the poo poo you spout with a grain of salt.

Riot Bimbo
Dec 28, 2006


Libluini posted:


Sadly this isn't as harmless as you might think, at least in Germany many Neo-Nazis use that kind of logic to claim saying stuff like "Heil Hitler" or "Mein Führer" was totally meant only as a joke, you guys. So I can kind of understand CCP cracking down on this kind of poo poo, since from their perspective it's hard to tell if some guy was just trying to make a joke or a Nazi forgetting that he wasn't on Stormfront anymore.

I totally understand that and thought about editing the way I phrased my post to clarify that. I didn't, but that comment I made two years ago was actually jokingly referring to the Mittani as Fuehrer exactly because the socialism gimmick was a bigger thing in GSF at the time (or it seemed that way to me as a newbee when this happened). And given the fact that most of GSF was probably going to be falling in lockstep to vote him in and give him a 10,000 vote mandate, it seemed funny if admittedly quite insensitive. The Mittani's GSF is very authoritarian if nothing else, too, so I had my reasons for thinking it was a funny comment even if it wasn't.

I'm not trying to excuse what I said as something that shouldn't have been punished. What chaps my rear end about it is when there are groups literally flying under tickers referring to hate groups, proudly sporting hateful symbolism without punishment, and all these other seemingly far more offensive things. There are people uniting in-game as unironic swastika wearing fascists. With that going on, me being punished for being a shithead and referring to the CEO of the corporation I'm in as Fuehrer seems, by comparison, completely loving asinine. I'm not sure how CCP can justify anyone being allowed to fly under a 14/88 ticker or unironically promoting these ideologies inside their video game. If mittens found my dumb rear end comment out of line, he could have purged me not a word one being said and that would have been the end of it, and probably the more appropriate course of action were offense taken.

In proof-reading this I think sound more upset about this than I am. I don't really care at all, so let me spell that out. I just want to be clear about what I mean and continue to bitch about CCP's across the board inconsistent enforcement of rules that aren't always that clear in the first place. That we even have to guess where the line is about this sort of thing is silly as hell.

Duzzy Funlop
Jan 13, 2010

Hi there, would you like to try some spicy products?

hemophilia posted:

I'm not an expert on German culture but I learned enough of the language and modern culture to know that many Germans flip their loving poo poo if you call or imply they're Nazis, too. That video probably really, really pissed off more than a few people in ev0ke.

Germans usually tend to only be offended or take it seriously when the accusation or comparison is made in all sincerity. Non-german folks throwing that stuff around either ill-informed or as hyperbole usually doesn't get more than a couple of eyes rolling. With the amount of righteous indignation on the internet, however, you're pretty much guaranteed to at the very least troll the everloving gently caress out of a bunch of guys. In Evoke's case, one of these guys was sitting on their "council" or something and made sure that the alliance shared his indignation, which ended up yielding all kinds of hilarity.
Some time later, they sorta-kinda showed they could take a joke by doing this Führerbunker-type of alliance meeting video which they called "Wochenschau", except it was an incredibly awkward video and thus probably served to reinforce the thought in some people that Evoke were actually Nazis.

/ninjaedit: Someone please find that video, the only link I came across is dead. It was "Evoke Wochenschau" or something to that extent.

Tusen Takk posted:

Icelandic people are notoriously xenophobic to the point that they have a council to purify their language from english-isms and scandinavian-isms (veðurfræði literally means "weather science", translates to meteorology compared to norwegian meteorologi, danish meteorologi, swedish meteorologi) so idk why you're shocked that Icelandic GM's are potentially neo-nazis

Well, that there certainly is some dumb reasoning.

Riot Bimbo
Dec 28, 2006


Duzzy Funlop posted:

Germans usually tend to only be offended or take it seriously when the accusation or comparison is made in all sincerity.[snip]

Admittedly my sample size is small. My German teacher was an awesome elderly German immigrant in her 70s in 2007. She'd seen some poo poo, to say the least. When some rear end in a top hat kid got into a disagreement with her, called her a Nazi and Goose-stepped at her, she nearly loving strangled that kid, and I'm not sure anybody would have stopped her, student or staff. I've never seen anger, offense, and visible emotional pain over a few words and gestures like that. It was super offensive to everyone who wasn't that dumb kid and I generally took her reaction to it as what I could expect from other native Germans. Thinking about it, that's stupid, but I'll never forget that.

She was such an awesome teacher too, she didn't deserve that.

I digress, I don't know why I extrapolated that into some gigantic assumption that most Germans react severely to every foreigner who thinks he's Mr. Funny making nazi jokes. That's stupidly ignorant on my end.

Xaerael
Aug 25, 2010

Marching Powder is objectively the worst poster known. He also needs to learn how a keyboard works.

It's actually quite common for languages to be preserved, and to avoid contamination from other languages. Notably, Welsh is very against using new English words, and they make new words which are in keeping with the Welsh language. French is an even more protected language, and France as a country even goes as far as banning movie releases until there is a French version of the title of a movie being released.

Amberskin
Dec 22, 2013

We come in peace! Legit!

Xaerael posted:

It's actually quite common for languages to be preserved, and to avoid contamination from other languages. Notably, Welsh is very against using new English words, and they make new words which are in keeping with the Welsh language. French is an even more protected language, and France as a country even goes as far as banning movie releases until there is a French version of the title of a movie being released.

For minority languages, protection versus the big ones, like english or spanish is necessary. My native language is spoken by about 8-9M people and it almost dissapeared after 200 years of not being "normalized" at all. That does not imply an absolute ban of "foreign" words. Take computer science, for instance. It has basically been invented by english-speaking people, so most of the terms have an english root. It is absurd to try to invent neologisms to avoid imporing english terms (as if inventing pseudolatin or pseudogreek words is better than simply incorporing a term everyone is using).

But if the language has a native word to refer to something, it makes all the sense to promote the use of that word instead of importing a foreign term. Cultural preservation al all that poo poo.

Sir_Substance
Dec 13, 2013

xlr82xs posted:

I'm more comfortable consuming reams of KKK and redneck video than I am watching anything that fedora wearing bronies are likely to be featured in.

I'm not sure I could bring myself to watch enough to find something suitable and then edit together.

Edit :
I could do something with a "To catch a predator" theme I guess, with the guy being TEST coming with hopes of meeting BNI.

To be honest, it wouldn't be that big a stretch to do the kkk/redditor/women belong in the kitchen crossover angle. I'm given to understand that test comms are something of a festival of autism, and not a great place for chicks to hang out in.

Thrasophius
Oct 27, 2013

Klyith posted:

That's fine. Getting straight answers out of the GM queue is impossible because the EULA says:

so it's pretty much impossible to rule on anything ahead of time.


At some points in the EULA history pretty much any macro or input that wasn't a single standard keyboard key or mouse click was illegal, but never really enforced. But macros that repeat or loop are what they don't want, because eve is so easy to make bots for that the hardware macro support in some devices is enough to make a mining bot. They can't find a way to say that in plain language though.

I won't risk it then because that section of the EULA looks really open to interpretation so don't want to risk a ban because a GM was having a bad day.

Mekchu
Apr 10, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

hemophilia posted:

I thought CCP's english speaking GM staff was employed stateside in their georgia office? Seems weird and like it would be difficult to find enough fluent english and multi-lingual speakers to do all the customer service out of iceland.

Either way, their actions regarding nazi stuff is super inconsistent and seemingly case-by case. I remember some goon organized his pos mods in the shape of a swastika and had to have them moved. I mentioned a few pages back that I got a temp ban for saying "mein fuehrer" in a CSM candidacy thread; a german phrase that, while has obvious modern ties to Nazism, Fuehrer isn't a loving title that is or was reserved exclusively for Adolf Hitler. So they let some strangely blantant poo poo slide, and they come down hard on other seemingly innocuous or jokey things. It's hard to get a bead on what their internal policies on this stuff is honestly, but it's unfair to insinuate Iceland are a bunch of nazis for trying to preserve their language and heritage. Nationalism isn't quite as terrible as national socialism.

In addition to doing WoD stuff, the Georgia office is USTZ support staff for EVE. That would include GMs and CSR.

suck my woke dick
Oct 10, 2012

:siren:I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!:siren:

Put this cum-loving slave on ignore immediately!

xlr82xs posted:

I could do something with a "To catch a predator" theme I guess, with the guy being TEST coming with hopes of meeting BNI.

Do it :getin:

e: make sure to call it "To catch a Predditor"

suck my woke dick fucked around with this message at 16:50 on Mar 22, 2014

Marx Headroom
May 10, 2007

AT LAST! A show with nonono commercials!
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orange juche posted:

Exploration I guess. Salvaging/scavenging anoms will be pretty much dead though, so I hope they increase relic sites to compensate. (Data sites are worth precisely dick)

Well they're also removing scatter containers from hacking sites and re-balancing those loot tables across the board, so...

Thrasophius
Oct 27, 2013

Mr. Jive posted:

Well they're also removing scatter containers from hacking sites and re-balancing those loot tables across the board, so...

So they are changing it to be a cargo container then like ghost sites?

suck my woke dick
Oct 10, 2012

:siren:I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!:siren:

Put this cum-loving slave on ignore immediately!

Mr. Jive posted:

Well they're also removing scatter containers from hacking sites and re-balancing those loot tables across the board, so...

:ccp: will find a way to screw up.

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Deofuta
Jul 7, 2013

The Corps is Mother
The Corps is Father

orange juche posted:

Exploration I guess. Salvaging/scavenging anoms will be pretty much dead though, so I hope they increase relic sites to compensate. (Data sites are worth precisely dick)

As long as something else opens up to cover the hole that the nerf on salvaging will create, I think it would be a good move. Having to rely on others to be doing something to get your own income is a pain. However, thinking that something will easily replace it is a forlorn hope at best.

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