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Cease to Hope: Dec 12, 2011

games where fighting dragons is fun and interesting: dragon's dogma, monster hunter

elfgames where fighting dragons is fun and interesting:

# ? Mar 22, 2014 09:31

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# ? Jun 10, 2024 09:31

corn in the bible: Jun 5, 2004; Oh no oh god it's all true!

# ? Mar 22, 2014 09:35

Cease to Hope: Dec 12, 2011

i would play a duck in an rpg

not a former bird though, that's just retarded

# ? Mar 22, 2014 10:05

Ferrinus: Jun 19, 2003; i'm finding this quite easy, i guess in part because i'm a fast type but also because i have a coherent mental model of the world

4e style battlegrid dragon needs to have a big token and facing, so you can be behind it or on its left side or etc, and the direction you attack from determines what you hit. hit it from one of its sides enough to cripple a wing and stop it flying, etc

# ? Mar 22, 2014 14:38

Splicer: Oct 16, 2006; from hell's heart I cast at thee
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Ferrinus posted:

4e style battlegrid dragon needs to have a big token and facing, so you can be behind it or on its left side or etc, and the direction you attack from determines what you hit. hit it from one of its sides enough to cripple a wing and stop it flying, etc

Off the top of my head I can't think of a single fictional example of fighting a dragon (or similarly sized creature) which doesn't heavily feature targeted attacks. Wailing away at something four times your side is what the peasants do before they get mooshed in the opening scene/chapter.

Splicer fucked around with this message at 16:05 on Mar 22, 2014

# ? Mar 22, 2014 16:02

Attorney at Funk: Jun 3, 2008; ...the person who says honestly that he despairs is closer to being cured than all those who are not regarded as despairing by themselves or others.

Splicer posted:

Off the top of my head I can't think of a single fictional example of fighting a dragon (or similarly sized creature) which doesn't heavily feature targeted attacks. Wailing away at something four times your side is what the peasants do before they get mooshed.

even vegeta aimed his destructo disk at the oozaru's tail

# ? Mar 22, 2014 16:03

Plutonis: Mar 25, 2011

if you take loving lotr the only thing that managed to kill smaug was hitting his weak scale with a loving harpoon.

dunno why not just shoot his eyes out tho

# ? Mar 22, 2014 16:09

Attorney at Funk: Jun 3, 2008; ...the person who says honestly that he despairs is closer to being cured than all those who are not regarded as despairing by themselves or others.

Plutonis posted:

if you take loving lotr the only thing that managed to kill smaug was hitting his weak scale with a loving harpoon.

dunno why not just shoot his eyes out tho

dragons have an indestructible nicitating membrane

# ? Mar 22, 2014 16:10

Splicer: Oct 16, 2006; from hell's heart I cast at thee
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Plutonis posted:

if you take loving lotr the only thing that managed to kill smaug was hitting his weak scale with a loving harpoon.

dunno why not just shoot his eyes out tho

I have made a small diagram of Smaug's face.

(eyeball) (thing that shoots loving napalm) (other eyeball)

Good luck with that.

Also he might blink so...

# ? Mar 22, 2014 16:13

corn in the bible: Jun 5, 2004; Oh no oh god it's all true!

Cease to Hope posted:

i would play a duck in an rpg

not a former bird though, that's just retarded

Then play one of the RPs set in Glorantha, because it has an official duck race and they're all depressed as hell.

It's what King of Dragon Pass is based on.

# ? Mar 22, 2014 16:14

Plutonis: Mar 25, 2011

mythology has a great record of heroes just poking out monster's eyes, such as when odysseus poked out polyphemus' eye like the evil rear end in a top hat he is

# ? Mar 22, 2014 16:15

Splicer: Oct 16, 2006; from hell's heart I cast at thee
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corn in the bible posted:

Then play one of the RPs set in Glorantha, because it has an official duck race and they're all depressed as hell.

It's what King of Dragon Pass is based on.

I always get the names for Glorantha and Golarion mixed up.

Plutonis posted:

mythology has a great record of heroes just poking out monster's eyes, such as when odysseus poked out polyphemus' eye like the evil rear end in a top hat he is

Oh yeah, no, poking out eyes of giant things in general is mythic as all hell, it's just Smaug specifically we're saying would gently caress you up for trying.

# ? Mar 22, 2014 16:16

Attorney at Funk: Jun 3, 2008; ...the person who says honestly that he despairs is closer to being cured than all those who are not regarded as despairing by themselves or others.

Plutonis posted:

mythology has a great record of heroes just poking out monster's eyes, such as when odysseus poked out polyphemus' eye like the evil rear end in a top hat he is

to be fair, polyphemus's defining character trait was "has one eye". even the heroes of myth and legend must respect the time-honored boss with a glowing weak point

smaug's just happened to be on his chest

# ? Mar 22, 2014 16:22

LSTB: Nov 13, 2000

Attorney at Funk posted:

also in a game where all meaningful gameplay is tied up in fighting and killing things with swords, like d&d, everything should be interesting to fight and kill with swords

I had like 3 diplomancers in my Black Crusade campaign :<

# ? Mar 22, 2014 17:36

Ferrinus: Jun 19, 2003; i'm finding this quite easy, i guess in part because i'm a fast type but also because i have a coherent mental model of the world

okay, get this blistering system innovation: social combat

# ? Mar 22, 2014 17:38

Dr. Lunchables: Dec 27, 2012; IRL DEBUFFED KOBOLD

Why don't we just give dragons more HP? Problem solved.

# ? Mar 22, 2014 17:40

LSTB: Nov 13, 2000

Ferrinus posted:

okay, get this blistering system innovation: social combat

It'll probably end up as bad as skill challenges, but anything that makes it an unwieldy pain in the rear end for my players to negotiate with every monster or order NPCs to kill it for them sounds cool to me.

# ? Mar 22, 2014 17:41

Plutonis: Mar 25, 2011

LSTB posted:

It'll probably end up as bad as skill challenges, but anything that makes it an unwieldy pain in the rear end for my players to negotiate with every monster or order NPCs to kill it for them sounds cool to me.

the exalted social combat is really good and not convoluted at all

# ? Mar 22, 2014 17:42

LSTB: Nov 13, 2000

Plutonis posted:

the exalted social combat is really good and not convoluted at all

Aren't 0-level Exalted NPCs literally incapable of even scratching anyone with plot armor? Why would you ever negotiate with one?

# ? Mar 22, 2014 17:44

Ferrinus: Jun 19, 2003; i'm finding this quite easy, i guess in part because i'm a fast type but also because i have a coherent mental model of the world

LSTB posted:

Aren't 0-level Exalted NPCs literally incapable of even scratching anyone with plot armor? Why would you ever negotiate with one?

you'd never negotiate with one because it might cost you the willpower points you need to activate your precious perfect defenses

this is 2e, though, there's a chance 3e's social influence system is actually good

# ? Mar 22, 2014 17:45

Attorney at Funk: Jun 3, 2008; ...the person who says honestly that he despairs is closer to being cured than all those who are not regarded as despairing by themselves or others.

LSTB posted:

I had like 3 diplomancers in my Black Crusade campaign :<

I love having fights like once every ten sessions or w/e, rather than games where combat is a presumed primary conflict resolution system

# ? Mar 22, 2014 17:46

LSTB: Nov 13, 2000

Attorney at Funk posted:

I love having fights like once every ten sessions or w/e, rather than games where combat is a presumed primary conflict resolution system

I would love them, if those sessions had the same crunch as combat, rather than a series of pass/fail checks (or worse yet, freeform RP).

# ? Mar 22, 2014 17:54

Plutonis: Mar 25, 2011

Ferrinus posted:

you'd never negotiate with one because it might cost you the willpower points you need to activate your precious perfect defenses

this is 2e, though, there's a chance 3e's social influence system is actually good

what kind of scrub takes PD charms that cost willpower?

# ? Mar 22, 2014 17:58

Attorney at Funk: Jun 3, 2008; ...the person who says honestly that he despairs is closer to being cured than all those who are not regarded as despairing by themselves or others.

LSTB posted:

I would love them, if those sessions had the same crunch as combat, rather than a series of pass/fail checks (or worse yet, freeform RP).

I would generally prefer combat was as fast to resolve and abstract as social interaction is

# ? Mar 22, 2014 18:04

Attorney at Funk: Jun 3, 2008; ...the person who says honestly that he despairs is closer to being cured than all those who are not regarded as despairing by themselves or others.

I super duper am not interested in having xcom or fft breaks in the middle of my pretend

# ? Mar 22, 2014 18:05

LSTB: Nov 13, 2000

Have they made an XCom RPG that works like a one player one character Necromunda yet.

# ? Mar 22, 2014 18:08

Plutonis: Mar 25, 2011

fft loving owns and i'd play the poo poo out of a game based on it though

# ? Mar 22, 2014 18:08

LSTB: Nov 13, 2000

Plutonis posted:

fft loving owns and i'd play the poo poo out of a game based on it though

Signed.

# ? Mar 22, 2014 18:08

Mystic Mongol: Jan 5, 2007; Your life's been thrown in disarray already--I wouldn't want you to feel pressured.; College Slice

Plutonis posted:

fft loving owns and i'd play the poo poo out of a game based on it though

http://ninjaweazel.wikispaces.com/file/view/Final+Fantasy+RPG+3e.pdf

# ? Mar 22, 2014 18:09

Attorney at Funk: Jun 3, 2008; ...the person who says honestly that he despairs is closer to being cured than all those who are not regarded as despairing by themselves or others.

Plutonis posted:

fft loving owns and i'd play the poo poo out of a game based on it though

I love fft I just don't wanna play multiplayer fft where I'm responsible for character development etc

# ? Mar 22, 2014 18:13

Attorney at Funk: Jun 3, 2008; ...the person who says honestly that he despairs is closer to being cured than all those who are not regarded as despairing by themselves or others.

that was really the thing that turned me off of double cross moreso than the stupid encroach mechanic. it's so insanely fiddly and elaborate and there's so many flavorless powers you have to stitch together into combos based on the precise timing rules and the various intersections with the resolution mechanism. feh, feh, epic unstoppable feh to all of that

# ? Mar 22, 2014 18:15

Plutonis: Mar 25, 2011

Mystic Mongol posted:

http://ninjaweazel.wikispaces.com/file/view/Final+Fantasy+RPG+3e.pdf

for a second i thought it was the lovely returners rpg or the mediocre one that GiTP made (i play a game of it on irc)

# ? Mar 22, 2014 18:15

Attorney at Funk: Jun 3, 2008; ...the person who says honestly that he despairs is closer to being cured than all those who are not regarded as despairing by themselves or others.

I just wanted to be the anime high school class president who also hovered nine inches in the air and had glowing red eyes + crackling gravity orbs etc

# ? Mar 22, 2014 18:15

this troper: Apr 4, 2011; :o

01011001 posted:

thank god someone is.

# ? Mar 22, 2014 18:30

this troper: Apr 4, 2011; :o

Plutonis posted:

fft loving owns and i'd play the poo poo out of a game based on it though

hell yeah.

# ? Mar 22, 2014 18:30

this troper: Apr 4, 2011; :o

I'll be the ==========Fast Hero

# ? Mar 22, 2014 18:31

corn in the bible: Jun 5, 2004; Oh no oh god it's all true!

yeah and where is the unlimited saga tabletop game?

# ? Mar 22, 2014 18:43

Elfgames: Sep 11, 2011; Fun Shoe

Attorney at Funk posted:

I just wanted to be the anime high school class president who also hovered nine inches in the air and had glowing red eyes + crackling gravity orbs etc

http://atarashigames.wordpress.com/teachers-lounge/panty-explosion-perfect/

# ? Mar 22, 2014 18:52