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Intruder posted:Guess it's Clowney, the Texans just signed Fitzpatrick I'm not completely sold that it's Clowney at #1. Fitz's deal has no gtd money on the second year, and O'Brien might believe there is a QB that he can groom under his system. Keenum and Yates are on the roster still as well so he might take a guy to have him compete with all 4, and if he doesn't win out, then we've still got a band-aid on the position for half or all of the season if need be.
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b0ng posted:I'm not completely sold that it's Clowney at #1. Fitz's deal has no gtd money on the second year, and O'Brien might believe there is a QB that he can groom under his system. Keenum and Yates are on the roster still as well so he might take a guy to have him compete with all 4, and if he doesn't win out, then we've still got a band-aid on the position for half or all of the season if need be. We can get the new guy after round 1.  Seriously, though, when was the last time a guy taken a 1-1 sat out the first year? Genuinely curious.
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bhsman posted:We can get the new guy after round 1. Eli was close until Warner had a problem with holding on to the ball for five seconds. Plus Warner only wanted to play for the Giants on the condition that he got to play the year.
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b0ng posted:I'm not completely sold that it's Clowney at #1. Fitz's deal has no gtd money on the second year, and O'Brien might believe there is a QB that he can groom under his system. Keenum and Yates are on the roster still as well so he might take a guy to have him compete with all 4, and if he doesn't win out, then we've still got a band-aid on the position for half or all of the season if need be. I was joking, obviously no team is going to sign Fitz at this point in time and say QB problems solved
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bhsman posted:We can get the new guy after round 1. Mike Glennon started half the year (As was mentioned in my post about the band-aid being for a full or half season). The rookie wouldn't have to sit out the entire year, but to me, this move makes me think he likes somebody that I do not like (Bortles).
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Carson Palmer was the last one edit: and before Carson Palmer was technically Randy Duncan, who was drafted #1 overall by the Packers in 1959 and ditched them for Canadian football because the British Columbia Lions offered him more money. Zypher fucked around with this message at 19:49 on Mar 21, 2014 |
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PrinceRandom posted:He's aggressive and a team-player! Intangibles are looking good for this piece of crap.
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b0ng posted:Mike Glennon started half the year (As was mentioned in my post about the band-aid being for a full or half season). The rookie wouldn't have to sit out the entire year, but to me, this move makes me think he likes somebody that I do not like (Bortles). Glennon was drafted in the 4th, though. Intruder posted:I was joking, obviously no team is going to sign Fitz at this point in time and say QB problems solved Not long-term, anyways. Him having no guaranteed money after year one is telling. bhsman fucked around with this message at 20:03 on Mar 21, 2014 |
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Also Glennon wouldn't have started if Freeman hadn't completely imploded
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swickles posted:As terrible as the NCAA is at giving out fair punishments, I don't think Manziel was a case of being white. It was a case of "we think he might have done something wrong but have no proof or any way of proving it but we are going to suspend him anyway". Its less about race and more about school and ability. Cam Newton was cleared after a 20 minute investigation whereas a 2nd string OL will be in limbo for a full season. Great points, especially about Cam! I guess they're just madly inconsistent about punishing players?
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John Brown posted:Great points, especially about Cam! I guess they're just madly inconsistent about punishing players? "Madly inconsistent" will carved on the NCAA's tombstone.
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Manziel's "suspension" wasn't the typically suspension. It only happened because he agreed to it with the understanding that the NCAA would stop harassing him about the allegations unless new evidence came out that proved he was guilty. He didn't have to accept the suspension because the NCAA had no proof, but it made his life easier to do it.
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Ryan Fitzpatrick is an excellent backup and a great guy to work with a young QB. Don't think that signing tells us much but, if anything, it pushes me more into the Texans-drafting-a-QB camp.
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Butthead posted:Manziel's "suspension" wasn't the typically suspension. It only happened because he agreed to it with the understanding that the NCAA would stop harassing him about the allegations unless new evidence came out that proved he was guilty. He didn't have to accept the suspension because the NCAA had no proof, but it made his life easier to do it. Well, thats exactly the point. How many people have the NCAA offered such a plea bargain to? And how many of those people aren't Heisman winners or prominent players on high profile teams? If Manziel was a 2nd string LB or played at Texas State instead of A&M he would still be under investigation and not eligible to play.
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Nately posted:Ryan Fitzpatrick is an excellent backup and a great guy to work with a young QB. Don't think that signing tells us much but, if anything, it pushes me more into the Texans-drafting-a-QB camp. Question is whether it'll be in the first or not.
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bhsman posted:Question is whether it'll be in the first or not. It's the same off-season story as the Vikings. They re-signed Cassel, but no one here thinks he's the face of the future. Grab a guy with some experience who isn't Curtis Painter-bad and can help acclimate the first year QB. It's not a question of if they draft QB, just which round(s).
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They're gonna take Jeff Mathews so they can have an Ivy League QB duo
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Call of Cholula posted:A piece of poo poo continues to be a piece of poo poo.  for real though
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Call of Cholula posted:Hasn't he been posting photo shops of himself in lots of teams' jerseys? Reading these posts makes me wonder how we keep forgetting the dark Millen years of less than a decade ago. 1. Megatron 2. Golden Tate 3. *crickets* I would prefer if they went secondary in the first round (Dennard or Gilbert) and drafted one of the many good-looking receivers in the second, but it's hard to pass up the idea of Watkins if he falls to them.
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Henchman of Santa posted:It's really not. Right now the WR depth chart is: Yeah, I mean, if we're talking about filling needs, I would do something else in the 1st and bank on the insanely deep crop of receivers this year. Their 2nd-rounder could be Donte Moncrief or Jordan Matthews and that would still be ridiculous paired with Megatron and Tate.
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Henchman of Santa posted:It's really not. Right now the WR depth chart is: I guess I should've clarified but its not just wide receivers in the receiving game. The receivers are CJ, Tate, Durham, Durham, Ogletree, and Broyles. They've also got an extremely good TE in Pettigrew, even though everyone seems to hate him. They've got two good-to-great pass catching RBs in Bush and Bell. They've got one of the most expensive QBs in the league who has passed for almost 15,000 yards in the past three years. The Lions cannot afford to keep throwing first and second round picks at Wide Receivers. Watkins looks great, sure, but I'd rather them try to trade out if he falls to them to be completely honest. Which he won't, anyhow.
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Did Pettigrew actually become "really good" last season? I haven't seen him play much.
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He was injured a lot but he cut down on his drop rate. He's a solid tight end but I would hesitate to call him "extremely" anything.Call of Cholula posted:The Lions cannot afford to keep throwing first and second round picks at Wide Receivers. Watkins looks great, sure, but I'd rather them try to trade out if he falls to them to be completely honest. Which he won't, anyhow. Even with Bush, Megatron, Bell, Pettigrew and others the offense would routinely sputter out last year if one of the first two was put in check. Just having a decent player in the form of Jordan Matthews/Allen Robinson/Odell Beckham or whoever would alleviate some of those issues. Henchman of Santa fucked around with this message at 16:21 on Mar 22, 2014 |
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Who the gently caress is writing at Rotoworld nowRotoworld posted:Vikings GM Rick Spielman and OC Norv Turner attended Fresno State QB Derek Carr's pro day and scheduled an upcoming private workout with San Jose State's David Fales.
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Teams will be tricked into drafting Carr worse than sex tourists in Thailand
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how can i work in my hatred of women into this brief football prospect writeup
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No Butt Stuff posted:I wish more sports journalism would include cross dressing. 
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Henchman of Santa posted:He was injured a lot but he cut down on his drop rate. He's a solid tight end but I would hesitate to call him "extremely" anything. This is a non issue cause Watkins will not fall to Detroit, but if he somehow did they should take him and not look back ever.
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Comfortador posted:This is a non issue cause Watkins will not fall to Detroit, but if he somehow did they should take him and not look back ever. I assume this is true of everyone out of the like the top 8 or so. PrinceRandom fucked around with this message at 21:54 on Mar 22, 2014 |
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Marketing New Brain posted:Teams will be tricked into drafting Carr worse than sex tourists in Thailand I once overheard a fascinating conversation between a Thai man and an ex Marines special forces guy about how to spot a ladyboy in Thailand. Marine said you look for boobs that are too nice and Thai guy said that you look out for manly legs, cause that's an extremely expensive and painful operation so people normally skip it. I can't vouch for ether's accuracy, as I've never been to Thailand, but I pass this down to you.  Carr ain't fooling nobody.
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Eifert Posting posted:I once overheard a fascinating conversation between a Thai man and an ex Marines special forces guy about how to spot a ladyboy in Thailand. Marine said you look for boobs that are too nice and Thai guy said that you look out for manly legs, cause that's an extremely expensive and painful operation so people normally skip it. I can't vouch for ether's accuracy, as I've never been to Thailand, but I pass this down to you. Yeah I don't know who the Bengals are drafting either.
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Eifert Posting posted:I once overheard a fascinating conversation between a Thai man and an ex Marines special forces guy about how to spot a ladyboy in Thailand. Marine said you look for boobs that are too nice and Thai guy said that you look out for manly legs, cause that's an extremely expensive and painful operation so people normally skip it. I can't vouch for ether's accuracy, as I've never been to Thailand, but I pass this down to you. I think the easiest way is just to check and see if they have a penis.
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Since I keep seeing him mocked to the Giants, is ebron really worth a pick at 12? I know he's not the greatest blocker in the world, so for a te to go that high he'd basically need to project to be Jimmy Graham, right?
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For what it's worth, I'm not convinced that it would be worth it for Green Bay to take Ebron @ 21. I only actually watched him play in three games, though. v No, I didn't. I only watched 2013 film. He looks good, but not good enough to take at 12 from what I can tell. smuggler fucked around with this message at 07:56 on Mar 23, 2014 |
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smuggler posted:For what it's worth, I'm not convinced that it would be worth it for Green Bay to take Ebron @ 21. I only actually watched him play in three games, though. Did you watch him against Miami?
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He can make circus catches but has concentration drops. Ebron's main positive attribute is his speed as a tight end. That's why all the comparisons to Vernon Davis. I don't want the ravens to take him because I'd rather have better blocking tight end that could work as a red zone target such as Niklas or ASJ but that is only because we have that hybrid receiver TE roll filled by Pitta.
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Menamino posted:Since I keep seeing him mocked to the Giants, is ebron really worth a pick at 12? I know he's not the greatest blocker in the world, so for a te to go that high he'd basically need to project to be Jimmy Graham, right? Ebron is a slot WR parading as a TE. North Carolina didn't ask him to block. He also has an awful drop rate due to how he catches the ball. I don't think he's worth a first round pick and would be pretty happy if Amaro, Niklas, or ASJ was taken in the second instead. Giants need to BPA their #12 pick.
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