stickyfngrdboy posted:

1) if you give this goal you're a dick that's all I'm saying

Keith Hackett, a dick, posted:

1) As every youngster knows, players have to play to the whistle. This incident has happened at high speed and, while the keeper's reaction is understandable, players cannot decide when the game stops and starts (a power which could easily be misused for tactical gain). If you had spotted the injury instantly and whistled before the shot was taken it would be different. As it is, call for medical help, then award the goal.
Thanks to Zach Simm.
2) A nightmare scenario. You now need to act decisively. If you can pinpoint exactly when the extra player was brought on, speak to both captains and let them know you are restarting the game from that point, before this latest goal – and request a stadium announcement to relay that to the crowd. If not, or if one of the captains disagrees, allow the game to come to its conclusion. Either way, report everything that happened to the authorities. James Williscroft wins the shirt.
3) Standing in an offside position is not an offence. But when he receives the ball he becomes active, so you have to declare him offside. Restart with an indirect free-kick, taken from where he was standing in his opponents' half when the ball was kicked. Thanks to Russell Flagg.

chaoslord posted:

(Had a somewhat similar issue with a captain disagreeing. I was coming back from an advantage to issue a caution. While I was going back up the field to meet the player to issue the card, his captain/keeper took the goal kick and then tried to argue that he had already put the ball back in play therefore I couldn't do anything. Clever.)

stickyfngrdboy posted:

lol what? this isn't clever, play doesn't restart until you (YATR) say it does

CPColin posted:

I like the thought that the captain of the team with twelve players would refuse to roll back the game. Also, I want to see a question where it's the referee's leg that breaks right before somebody scores. "Both teams agree that a goal was scored, but you couldn't see it, because a piece of your tibia hit you in the eye. What now?"

chaoslord posted:

Roll the game back? I don't think you can actually do that. The game is now stopped because the ball went out of play. At this point, the game needs a restart. Sure, you can change the restart from "kick off" to whatever else (although you better not pick throw-in), but apart from that unless there's something special written in the RoC, the Laws don't provide you much power to do anything else as far as I can remember.

quote:

Goal scored with an extra person on the field of play

If, after a goal is scored, the referee realises, before play restarts, that there was
an extra person on the field of play when the goal was scored:

• the referee must disallow the goal if:
– the extra person was an outside agent and he interfered with play
– the extra person was a player, substitute, substituted player or team
official associated with the team that scored the goal

• the referee must allow the goal if:
– the extra person was an outside agent who did not interfere with play
– the extra person was a player, substitute, substituted player or team
official associated with the team that conceded the goal

quote:

If I notice the 12th man before kickoff after the goal, I am disallowing it, cautioning someone, removing that player from the field, and restarting with IFK from the goal area for the defending team.

Trin Tragula posted:

Incidentally, might it not be better to restart with a goal-kick?

Advice to Referees posted:

Goal is scored against opposing team and discovered before restart
Cancel goal, caution for entering (E), restart with GK

Captain Trips posted:

3. Make them play with an outfield player in goal, but make the fan play keeper for his side to even it out.

Abandoning the game seems like the nuclear option to me, but you guys are tossing it around like it's nothing.

CPColin posted:

1. No different than all those empty water bags, right? Play on. If the guy really can't perform, tell him to get a broom and go have a beer

KH posted:

1) There's no offence here. Players can eat anything they like during the game, just as long as: a) it's a legal substance, and b) they don't leave the pitch to do it. But if the wrappers are distracting your colleague, ask the stadium manager to have them cleared away. Thanks to Rick McCabe.
2) One quality a good official needs is humility when a mistake has been made. Apologise for this serious error, which has denied an innocent player a chance of an attempt on goal, restart with a dropped ball from where it was when you stopped play – and have a word with your colleague. Thanks to Phillip Mercer.
3) An awful situation. The home side's anger and frustration is totally understandable, and you need to handle this carefully. Once security and medical staff have dealt with the incident, remind the home manager and captain that, however unfair it seems, the game cannot be completed without a nominated goalkeeper in place. Remind them that, if they refuse to put a player in goal, you will have no option but to abandon the game and report them – leaving the result, and their fate, entirely in the hands of the authorities. Lee Hayward wins the shirt.

Edmund Honda posted:

The second one is a bit weird because leaving the field without permission is already a (second) yellow card offense, so why would you be letting him back onto the pitch anyway?

Law 12 posted:

*denying the opposing team a goal or an obvious goalscoring opportunity by deliberately handling the ball (this does not apply to a goalkeeper within his own penalty area)

*denying an obvious goalscoring opportunity to an opponent moving towards the player's goal by an offence punishable by a free kick or a penalty kick

Hacket posted:

1) The player grabbed the post to avoid a potentially serious injury, and the ball hit him accidentally – so, taking those factors into account, you cannot view him as being guilty of unsporting behaviour. There has been no offence, the ball has deflected in off him in live play – so it's a goal. Thanks to Murray Zelnick.
2) Leaving the field without permission is an offence, but he may have had a legitimate, medical reason for doing so in a hurry – so that would not be an automatic second yellow without further investigation. Returning to the game without permission, though, definitely is an automatic second yellow. Send him off. Nick Thornton wins the shirt.
3) This is clearly not acceptable: it's an offence to use a shirt like this as it effectively becomes an extension of his hands. So the youngster has committed what counts as a deliberate handball on the line. However, this "handball" has not prevented a certain goal, as the ball would have hit his body anyway. So it's a yellow card, a penalty, and a hard lesson learned. Thanks to Naveen NR.

Grimble posted:

ayb posted:

There was one where you discover 10 minutes into the half that you're using the wrong sized ball and he said to start over with the right one so I can't imagine you can play with that. Why would a kit man even have a size 4 ball anyway