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Man this is a dumb conversation. The fan translation for Ace Attorney Investigations 2 is up to the third case. The translation's been complete for a while now I think, so only a bit more to go until the whole game is translated and I can go play it.
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DamnGlitch posted:Do we really need to do this any longer? No. No, we don't. I'm slowly reading
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Just finished reading through the parts of Comyu that have been translated. It's pretty good. The 'joke' route is especially awesome.
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Mar 9, 2014 20:41
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You lot might be interested to know that Mirai Fukuin, another Kara no Kyoukai film, is out and about.
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Mar 10, 2014 04:38
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Is there anywhere to legally watch Kara no Kyoukai or would I just have to resign myself to having to buy the discs?
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rvm posted:I/O Just chiming in to say that this post is mostly accurate; the music is actually  , in that 90s sci-fi/technopunk kind of way. So far, I've found the B route to be much more enjoyable than A; the team dynamic works pretty well, and the narrative is a lot more focused, which makes sense given that the protagonist is a fairly different character in a different position than Hinata in A.
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Mar 10, 2014 04:42
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I didn't mind Hinata too much, once he stopped being a douche. Which really happens without any buildup or anything. It's like he woke up one day and thought "Maybe I shouldn't be a douche to everyone anymore". I was going to go back for some of the bad endings but once minor additional things started happening without me doing anything different I decided to wait until I've gotten the 1.0 ending. So I just started route B last night. It's pretty sweet to have a female protagonist, haven't played too many or any games with a female protagonist and most of the ones I've seen are similar types of dating game.
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Pornographic Memory posted:Is there anywhere to legally watch Kara no Kyoukai or would I just have to resign myself to having to buy the discs? The films used to be on PSN for rent, but I don't think that's accurate anymore. I think all of the English releases are out of print too. jonjonaug fucked around with this message at 06:18 on Mar 10, 2014 |
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Are the rest of the routes/protagonists in I/O from the perspective of high school students? After going partly through CLANNAD and muscling through Route A in I/O, I'm sick of 'em. Hinata was NOT a fun protagonist to follow - he seemed to be dense as a brick a lot of the time, and his childhood friend was the most grating childhood friend I've seen yet, what with the clinginess. If yes, I'll probably have to take a break and read some other VN just to get a breather from the ever-popular 'high school student gets embroiled in something' cliche.
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Mar 10, 2014 06:24
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StrixNebulosa posted:If yes, I'll probably have to take a break and read some other VN just to get a breather from the ever-popular 'high school student gets embroiled in something' cliche. Out of curiosity, what VN do you plan on reading that doesn't feature a high school student protagonist? Because I'm having difficulty naming more than, like, three. And one's a college student.
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Mar 10, 2014 06:38
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Classy Hydra posted:Out of curiosity, what VN do you plan on reading that doesn't feature a high school student protagonist? Because I'm having difficulty naming more than, like, three. And one's a college student. I've got several! I'm rereading Sekien no Inganock (as when I last read it, it was before they put out the Full Voice patch with bonus CGs) - the main character is a doctor, and there's no high school in sight! I'm also halfway (I think) through EVE Burst Error, which has two protagonists - one is a male private detective, and the other is a lady secret agent who's assigned to be a body guard for a...high...school student. Sigh. So you do spend a lot of time hanging out in a school waiting for classes to end, but mostly it's adults and figuring out the mystery/thriller. And getting annoyed at the crass jokes and references to President Clinton. There's also - off the top of my head - Demonbane (started this, haven't gone far due to how meh it feels to me) has another private detective dude. Then there's Forest, which I THINK doesn't have high school in it - it's hard to tell, what with how nuts it is. Kikokugai has an adult as the main character. And I'll close with Animamundi, a VN set in a fantasy 'verse that follows a guy who's a doctor/alchemist. In short, there are a surprising amount of high school-less VNs that aren't half bad.
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Mar 10, 2014 06:49
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Classy Hydra posted:Out of curiosity, what VN do you plan on reading that doesn't feature a high school student protagonist? Because I'm having difficulty naming more than, like, three. And one's a college student. Well, here's a list off the top of my head (not including stuff like Ace Attorney or the Zero Escape games that's easy to know about/come by). Ever17 (Takeshi is in college), Saya no Uta, Kikokugai, Hanachirasu, Higurashi (they're younger!), Swan Song, Planetarian, Demonbane, and Long Live the Queen (also younger by Japanese standards).
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Mar 10, 2014 06:59
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Thanks, I'll look into some of those. I actually legitimately forgot about Higurashi (I assumed they were older I suppose) and Saya no Uta. For some reason Demonbane keeps jumping up on places where I get recommendations, and I'm not sure why. Few people have anything better to say about it than "pretty decent", and it sounds like pretty generic fare from a basic description.
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Mar 10, 2014 07:03
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There's also Deardrops, which has an adult protagonist. There are some high school heroines but the school doesn't matter much beyond the first half of the common route. I don't really know how old most of the characters of Katahane are but there isn't a single school in sight in that one.
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Mar 10, 2014 07:06
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Classy Hydra posted:For some reason Demonbane keeps jumping up on places where I get recommendations, and I'm not sure why. Few people have anything better to say about it than "pretty decent", and it sounds like pretty generic fare from a basic description. Unless there's something new and exciting after the first fight in the mech, Demonbane has been fairly generic - to the point where I dropped it to read I/O instead. Does anyone here know more about it? Or have a reason to push on in it?
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Mar 10, 2014 07:12
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I like Demonbane, but its not great. If you're not particularly enjoying it, don't feel bad about dropping it.
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Classy Hydra posted:Thanks, I'll look into some of those. I actually legitimately forgot about Higurashi (I assumed they were older I suppose) and Saya no Uta. It takes Lovecraft (well, more Darleth and other writers than original Lovecraft in tone) and goes "hey you know what all this stuff with gods and alien worlds and monsters and stuff would be cool with? GIANT ROBOTS". The main character is alright, the fight scenes are cool, and it has a mostly likable supporting cast. It also has Hikaru Midorikawa voicing a full-on villainous role and hamming it up to 11. The plot is dumb and nothing to write home about, but the game is pretty self aware about that. StrixNebulosa posted:Unless there's something new and exciting after the first fight in the mech, Demonbane has been fairly generic - to the point where I dropped it to read I/O instead. Does anyone here know more about it? Or have a reason to push on in it? The plot starts to move a little once Master Therion and Kuro have their first confrontation (not TOO far into it), but the story (and the craziness in general) doesn't really take off until Demonbane fights Dagon. Up until then it's mostly silly fluff packaged in a "monster of the week" style setup. I wouldn't read it unless you really like big dumb over the top giant robot fights though, there's some rather nasty parts that I'd rather see stripped out of the game entirely. There's an all ages version with full voice, an expanded soundtrack, and more fight scenes for the PS2 but I doubt we'll ever see something like the Realta Nua patch for F/SN that gets that stuff into the English PC version. Blhue posted:I like Demonbane, but its not great. If you're not particularly enjoying it, don't feel bad about dropping it. Yeah, it's far from Nitro+'s best offering available in English.
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I want to say that "Demonbane is one of my favourite VNs" but that sentence seems kind of off in multiple ways, in the sense that I recognize it has a bunch of writing issues and it actually doesn't really utilize the VN format that well - it doesn't really take advantage of multiple paths (there's a lot of repeated events for very little new content in Demonbane between routes) and I imagine giant robot fights work much better as images rather than text. I think the bottom line is that Demonbane is a genre piece through and through with very little appeal to others outside of that niche. If you don't like Super Robots then it's unlikely that you'll like Demonbane, because it's not here to make you cry about the horrors of war or existentialistic angst or whatever, it's here to deliver a giant robot beating up monsters and other giant robots. Taking the genre rather than the medium in consideration, there are a bunch of things I like about Demonbane. For example, compared to actual "normal" Anime Super Robots, I like the fact that it's less "toyetic" with less design concepts like bright primary colours to attract children to buy merchandise. Granted, Demonbane action figures probably exist, but it clearly wasn't designed with those plans in mind. Oh yeah, Demonbane's pretty "end-loaded"... most of the memorable things that happen in it are in the "end-game" with the early game being monster of the week, although at least it gets new toys to play it rather than stock-footaging attacks, I suppose. It has some really rocking tunes but I rather you experience them in-game rather than me posting some kind of Youtube video spoiling them. I mean, to sum it up, Demonbane exists in this sort of paradoxical state where I think its best medium would have been a lavishingly animated Anime where the fights can be brought out to their full potential, but if it did originate as an Anime then a lot of its underlying design concepts would be completely different due to the different marketing pressure of the Anime industry, which means in that alternate universe I probably wouldn't like whatever it would have ended up as. (A terrible Anime version exists, which feels kind of tragic, because I very much think that a "one-route" adaptation of the source material that's good isn't impossible to execute, but there just wasn't enough budget to do it justice)
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StrixNebulosa posted:Are the rest of the routes/protagonists in I/O from the perspective of high school students? After going partly through CLANNAD and muscling through Route A in I/O, I'm sick of 'em. Hinata was NOT a fun protagonist to follow - he seemed to be dense as a brick a lot of the time, and his childhood friend was the most grating childhood friend I've seen yet, what with the clinginess. This is a question you could have answered for yourself pretty quickly just by starting Route B, but the answer is 'no'.
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Davzz posted:I imagine giant robot fights work much better as images rather than text. Honestly, I have to disagree with this. A problem I have with a lot of anime and also manga especially is that it can get really hard to follow the action-- there's nothing I love more in a VN than a well-written fight. Especially since we often get to follow the thought processes of at least one of the characters without it seeming out of place, which is something I enjoy very much.
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StrixNebulosa posted:
How about one where the primary characters are high school age but doesn't involve high schools at all? Well, at least not until the missable third and final chapter(there are endings, real endings, in the previous two), but even then it's more about the main character desperately trying, ultimately failing and giving up, to adjust back to a normal life. And even then there aren't  high school antics. Unsurprisingly I'm referring to a Nitro+ work.
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Mar 10, 2014 17:39
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jonjonaug posted:Higurashi (they're younger!) I thought Keiichi was around 16. I admit it's not made very clear, though.
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Mar 10, 2014 20:25
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I think one of the most endearing parts of Steins;Gate was that the two closest friends were actually college/uni aged instead being in High School and had actual logic, sense and competency to show for it to a large degree - even if they were utterly weird otherwise. That's one of the main reasons I was disappointed of Robotics;Notes. More Sci;Adv stuff with grown-ups, please.
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Silver2195 posted:I thought Keiichi was around 16. I admit it's not made very clear, though. I think it might be referencing the fact that Rika's technically the real protagonist. Because yes, Keiichi, Rena and Mion are all high school age.
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Mar 10, 2014 21:10
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Lord Koth posted:I think it might be referencing the fact that Rika's technically the real protagonist. Because yes, Keiichi, Rena and Mion are all high school age. Oh huh, that's right. OK then half of them are younger.
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Mar 10, 2014 21:21
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Mirai Fukuin was pretty good, and a much better send off than the  epilogue we got before. It does sort of have like three endings though, so I almost think it would have worked better as three OVA episodes rather than one film.
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Mar 11, 2014 01:05
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A little more into I/O and I can see why people who didn't like Hinata really liking Ishtar, the route B's protagonist. She's like the polar opposite of him, in terms of personality. Looking forward to see how these routes and stories connect.
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I'm not super far into the B route, but there's definitely been intersecting events and stuff. I guess you're supposed to play the routes in order, but there's a bunch of different endings for each one, and there's probably a true end or something with stuff after. In other words, I still don't know where the gently caress the plot is going, but I'll power through it eventually, I guess.
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I'm in route C now, in which they pretty much just throw you in the middle of some poo poo and you have to slowly figure out what the gently caress is going on. But geez, do they actually allow you to pick route C before route B? Because I would be completely loving lost if I didn't already play route B, I mean good lord, what if you picked route C first? Allowing people to go into this route completely cold without any playing any other route prior seems like a very bad idea.
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Stall_19 posted:I'm in route C now, in which they pretty much just throw you in the middle of some poo poo and you have to slowly figure out what the gently caress is going on. But geez, do they actually allow you to pick route C before route B? Because I would be completely loving lost if I didn't already play route B, I mean good lord, what if you picked route C first? Allowing people to go into this route completely cold without any playing any other route prior seems like a very bad idea. You can play A,B,C,D in any order. I was going to start with C before I was informed of the recommended playing order. So, yeah. I got about 15 minutes in and it was reaaally confusing.
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FSN Realta Nua patch is apparently mostly "complete" over here: http://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthread.php/4745-Fate-Stay-Night-Realta-Nua-PC-version-Mirror-Moon-TL-insertion-project This guy basically combined the partial Fate/UBW patch that Waku Waku had already made and some HF one from someone else. I'm not quite sure what's still missing from this (at least the H-scene replacements), but it at least seems about as close as we've ever gotten to a "clean" release of FSN. It even has a few extra bells and whistles, like the OPs from the Vita release.
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After getting burnt out with Grisaia a while back, I recently finished up Amane's route. I thought it was kind of weird that they put the note Kazuki left behind in the Bad End, it seemed like something they'd leave for the True End. Speaking of the True End, any emotional impact is kind of ruined by immediately showing Amane being hosed in the rear end while rammed up against a port-a-potty during the credits. I've only got Makina's route left. Thankfully Yumiko's route set the bar pretty low, Makina can't possibly be that boring.
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I've given that RN patch a whirl and it seems pretty good. It seemed implied in that dumb "watchme" that the H-alternate scenes weren't translated yet, but as far as I could work out they were. The only issues I had were: -The instructions don't make it very clear, but you have to include the "H Mod" patches to get anything to work even if you don't want them in the first place. Just turn off the two H-related options in the menu and it will be like they were never there. -I can't get the PS2 OP to play at the end of the UBW prologue; it instead plays the Fate one. Fate and HF play fine. Arguably irrelevant since most players are only ever going to watch the prologue once and do so during Fate. -At least one Vita OP played upside down if the game wasn't fullscreen  If you were ever on the fence about FSN because you didn't want to deal with the small amount of porn that it had, then this is the version for you. It also supposedly has heaps of fixes and better effects, including fixing some of TakaJun's  translation in places. Some of the changes from the guy making the patch sound a bit superfluous and going into Star Wars fanedit territory (he grabbed voiced lines from Archer in Unlimited Codes to voice the UBW poem in a scene which had always been unvoiced), but I'm going to assume most of it is innocuous.
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Yeah I downloaded that and am going to give it a go to get all the tiger dojo's, which I had no idea apparently opens up some sort of 'true ending' epilogue of sorts?
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Not sure if it could be called a true end, but yeah. Its sort of an epilogue to the Fate route. It also doesn't make a lick of sense.
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Mederlock posted:Yeah I downloaded that and am going to give it a go to get all the tiger dojo's, which I had no idea apparently opens up some sort of 'true ending' epilogue of sorts?
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Blhue posted:Not sure if it could be called a true end, but yeah. Its sort of an epilogue to the Fate route. It also doesn't make a lick of sense. I read Last Episode as Archer's epilogue, possibly set sometime after the end of the Universe. There's probably some holes in that from a meta-verse rules of magic point of view, but meh, that reading probably does the least damage to the rest of the narrative.
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Nate RFB posted:Last Episode. It's pretty pointless and unnecessary. However getting all of the Tiger Dojos also unlocks a scene between Taiga/Ilya where they dissect Fate/stay night as a whole and it's very interesting. So it's still worth doing for that at least. Oh cool, if that's the case then sweet
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Just finished Remember11. On the whole I was actually a lot more satisfied with it than I was expecting, based on the impressions given. Yes it's obvious there was supposed to be another chapter. It even says the story still isn't finished yet. But most of the questions I had were resolved. It does make me wonder what the creator had planned for the final chapter. Has he ever said what was supposed to happen?
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OK yeah the OPs in this RN patch are definitely messed up even more than I thought. UBW has the wrong aspect ratio, and HF doesn't seem to fullscreen properly. Both are upside down like Fate's if they are started while windowed. At least development seems fairly constant on it.
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