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xaarman
Mar 12, 2003

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XYLOPAGUS posted:

You have to be decent at riding though! My buddy loved his SV650 to death (he's a CMRA licensed racer) but has crashed it so many times he has restricted himself to doing smaller bikes (250 / 300 / 500 endurance). He sold it last weekend. I took mine to the track as well as his bike. It's a bunch of fun!

You really don't. You just need the guy on the liter bike to be worse then you.

They go WOT in the straights and then slam on their brakes. They are the epitome of anti smooth.

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Goredema
Oct 16, 2013

RUIN EVERYTHING

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xaarman posted:

You really don't. You just need the guy on the liter bike to be worse then you.

They go WOT in the straights and then slam on their brakes. They are the epitome of anti smooth.
I rode scooters for a couple years before getting my SV, so I learned from the start how to maximize speed through the corners. If you slow down for every corner on a scooter, it'll take you forever to get back up to top speed in the straights. A lot of the liter+ bike guys started on a liter bike, and never learned to corner well because they never had to learn.

I still own a scooter, and besides being useful around town, it's a great way to try out or practice stuff at lower speeds than on the SV.

ADINSX
Sep 9, 2003

Wanna run with my crew huh? Rule cyberspace and crunch numbers like I do?

Ok I said I'd give it a month but I lied, I have no illusions about how I'm going to use this bike 99% of the time and thats idling through traffic, so I'm gonna switch back to the old handle bars.


The problem is I switched in the first place because my old handlebars were bent from a drop, so I'll need new ones, which are expensive. I've been looking at this on ebay

http://www.ebay.com/itm/99-02-Suzuki-SV650-SV-650-Handlebars-Handle-Bars-/380846186511?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item58ac33a00f

Bars from the 02 and below models will fit an 07 right? I cant imagine that they changed the riding position too much the bikes are very similar.

Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.
That seems pretty expensive, still - you can run just about any 7/8ths inch bar as long as you're willing to drill some holes in it. I much prefer the bend in the gen 1 bar to the gen 2 bar, but I prefer dirtbike bars over both of those.

ADINSX
Sep 9, 2003

Wanna run with my crew huh? Rule cyberspace and crunch numbers like I do?

Z3n posted:

That seems pretty expensive, still - you can run just about any 7/8ths inch bar as long as you're willing to drill some holes in it. I much prefer the bend in the gen 1 bar to the gen 2 bar, but I prefer dirtbike bars over both of those.

I've never done this before (I had a shop swap out my bars the first time since I also wanted them to look the bike over for any meaningful damage), so why would you drill holes? Would that be for the rearview mirrors, because I have bar ends that I use.

I also saw these http://www.ebay.com/itm/2003-03-04-...=item4ac6b79cfb and figured they'd be pretty similar, and way cheaper, what do you think?

edit: just saw in the description that those sv1000 bars are bent, so I wanna avoid those. Do you have some examples on ebay of bars that would be very similar to the original riding position? I don't mind spending the money I just don't wanna do this again.

ADINSX fucked around with this message at 17:56 on Mar 11, 2014

Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.
There are little locating pins in the switchgear that go into holes in the bars and lock the switchgear in place. If you buy those gen one bars, they'll probably be in the right place but you might have to re-drill. Don't know enough about the switchgear design changes between gen 1 and gen 2 to say for certain.

Unfortunately you just have to sort of eyeball the fit, everyone has a slightly different taste on things.

Baller Witness Bro
Nov 16, 2006

Hey FedEx, how dare you deliver something before your "delivered by" time.
ADINSX if you want to sell those bars (and if they're 7/8") I might be interested in picking them up. Let me know what you think.

ADINSX
Sep 9, 2003

Wanna run with my crew huh? Rule cyberspace and crunch numbers like I do?

Baller Witness Bro posted:

ADINSX if you want to sell those bars (and if they're 7/8") I might be interested in picking them up. Let me know what you think.

They are 7/8", specifically made for the sv650 gen 2, I will let you know because I'm pretty sure I will be selling them :)

edit: I went ahead and bought the gen 1 bars, hopefully won't have to drill anything. I'll probably have questions about installing them regardless when they arrive, this time I plan on doing the work myself.

ADINSX fucked around with this message at 00:13 on Mar 12, 2014

ReformedNiceGuy
Feb 12, 2008
So after changing my spark plugs to sort a problem with the bike cutting out on me I took the bike out for a shakedown.

Got back and realised both my rear indicators were only attached by the wires running from the tail unit to the actual bulbs.

How the hell are you supposed to fix this? As far as I can see they are only held on by friction?!

Frozen Pizza Party
Dec 13, 2005

ReformedNiceGuy posted:

So after changing my spark plugs to sort a problem with the bike cutting out on me I took the bike out for a shakedown.

Got back and realised both my rear indicators were only attached by the wires running from the tail unit to the actual bulbs.

How the hell are you supposed to fix this? As far as I can see they are only held on by friction?!

You may have to take the clear part of the lens off of the housing, then insert the stalk into the housing, then put the lens on, it kinda holds the stalk inside... if that makes any sense.

ArbitraryTA
May 3, 2011
So here's one. It was a rainy night last night and is still super humid. The '05 SV650S I just got ran fine, started no problem etc before I bought it yesterday and I made sure the engine was cold before testing out the starter/test riding. I rolled it out this morning to go get it inspected and it started up but as I was leaving I pulled the clutch in and once the revs went down the engine died. Tried starting it back up and it won't start unless I give it a bit of throttle, then dies immediately after the throttle gets let off.

Any ideas?

Edit: walked back outside and tried to start it up. Didn't work the first time, second time it started up immediately and idled fine, revved the engine to see if it would stick and it did. I still would like to know what could cause this though. The second time I started it I twisted the throttle a bit, released it, then activated the ignition. Dunno if that means anything, but my first thought would be the fuel injectors might need work.

ArbitraryTA fucked around with this message at 17:35 on Mar 15, 2014

ReformedNiceGuy
Feb 12, 2008
I've just fixed exactly the same problem by fitting new spark plugs, when I took my old ones out the heads were completely black.

If I understand the problem correctly, the plugs get swamped by petrol a few times which leads to a weak spark which is why it cuts out at low revs. The reason it'll start if you give it a handful of throttle is that you're sending a chunk of extra power through the weakened plugs.

The good news is doing the plugs is really easy, this was the first time I've ever done them on any bike.

On a side note I also changed the air filter at the same time, don't buy the HiFlo replacement that's on a couple of sites, the one they sent me was about three mm short so the air box wouldn't close. I had to run out and buy a genuine Suzuki one!

ArbitraryTA
May 3, 2011

ReformedNiceGuy posted:

I've just fixed exactly the same problem by fitting new spark plugs, when I took my old ones out the heads were completely black.

If I understand the problem correctly, the plugs get swamped by petrol a few times which leads to a weak spark which is why it cuts out at low revs. The reason it'll start if you give it a handful of throttle is that you're sending a chunk of extra power through the weakened plugs.

The good news is doing the plugs is really easy, this was the first time I've ever done them on any bike.

On a side note I also changed the air filter at the same time, don't buy the HiFlo replacement that's on a couple of sites, the one they sent me was about three mm short so the air box wouldn't close. I had to run out and buy a genuine Suzuki one!

Spark plugs, of course. I always forget about the sparkies. Thanks mate.

ReformedNiceGuy
Feb 12, 2008

ArbitraryTA posted:

Spark plugs, of course. I always forget about the sparkies. Thanks mate.

No worries, hope it sorts your problem.

Frozen Pizza Party
Dec 13, 2005

Also the front plugwell on the sv tends to pick up moisture and hold it, I'd make sure there's no water in there too. There's a lot of info out there on fixing that.

ArbitraryTA
May 3, 2011

SaNChEzZ posted:

Also the front plugwell on the sv tends to pick up moisture and hold it, I'd make sure there's no water in there too. There's a lot of info out there on fixing that.

It might be that since after the bike dried off it was starting and running just fine. I'm still giving it a tune up regardless since the guy was so kind as to give me a Haynes manual for the bike so I have all the technical info I could need on it.

-Also- I noticed another issue. The rear brake sticks down. As in I can push the brake lever down and it stays down, continues applying pressure to the disk. I'm definite that it wasn't doing this when I test drove it. From my experience I'd say that kind of issue requires a caliper cleaning and rebuild yeah? It's the rear brake so I'm not incredibly worried but I'll probably need to have a professional do it. I don't wanna risk screwing up the rebuild.

Ah well. I got it for way under market value, I'm not surprised there's issues here and there.

Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.
Usually you can just remove footpeg and grease the hell out of the footpeg/lever connector - it gets grime in it and then it sticks.

Also probably just old gas or whatever, put some fresh gas in it, go ride it and see if it does it again.

ArbitraryTA
May 3, 2011

Z3n posted:

Usually you can just remove footpeg and grease the hell out of the footpeg/lever connector - it gets grime in it and then it sticks.

Also probably just old gas or whatever, put some fresh gas in it, go ride it and see if it does it again.

Actually the first thing I did was to run it down to near-empty. The drive back from where I picked it up lit up the fuel light so I just topped it up. I'm gonna monitor it to see if it keeps happening. I'll also look into greasing the lever connector, good to know as a step before loving with the caliper.

Goredema
Oct 16, 2013

RUIN EVERYTHING

Fun Shoe

ArbitraryTA posted:

Actually the first thing I did was to run it down to near-empty. The drive back from where I picked it up lit up the fuel light so I just topped it up. I'm gonna monitor it to see if it keeps happening. I'll also look into greasing the lever connector, good to know as a step before loving with the caliper.
Some people have had luck reducing the the "front spark plug fouling" problem by adding one of those fender extenders to the front fender.

As for the gas, I'd also think about just adding in a bit of Seafoam to the tank the next time you top it off. Might help.

tbb9
Sep 6, 2011
I just purchased a 2005 sv650s and read the first thing I should do is the "r6 throttle tube mod" but I'm reading the r6 tubes require modification on the second gens, are there other/better options or should I just buy and modify the r6 tube?

kenny powerzzz
Jan 20, 2010
If you really want to do it then so be it but all it does is make the twist shorter. I don't see the point on a non track bike. Actually the sv is a little jerky anyway if you aren't smoothing it out with the clutch so I wouldn't worry about it.
Edit- I only say this because you said you read that it's the first thing you should do. The first (and really only) mod I did was an aftermarket seat. The stock ones are terrible. Then if you want to improve the bike look at the suspension.

kenny powerzzz fucked around with this message at 22:36 on Mar 16, 2014

Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.

tbb9 posted:

I just purchased a 2005 sv650s and read the first thing I should do is the "r6 throttle tube mod" but I'm reading the r6 tubes require modification on the second gens, are there other/better options or should I just buy and modify the r6 tube?

I'd just buy and modify the r6 tube...on the sv it's very nearly am ergonomic mod, having to regrip to get pinned sucks and leads to some bad habits that can bite you.

Of course, a quarter turn throttle definitely wakes the bike up a bit too so...

kenny powerzzz
Jan 20, 2010
Really?, the more you know I guess.

rotaryfun
Jun 30, 2008

you can be my wingman anytime
So what's the largest set of tires that I can put on the SV? I think it has 160 on the rear now, can it do 170 or 180?

Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.
You can do a 170 but honestly moving away from 160 will just make the bike handle slower and will wear out tires faster due to the mushrooming effect. Plus most modern tires aren't really available in 170. If you want to put a larger tire on, do the GSX-R rear rim mod.

rotaryfun
Jun 30, 2008

you can be my wingman anytime
So in other words, that's stupid... don't do it?

Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.

rotaryfun posted:

So in other words, that's stupid... don't do it?

Yeah you could consider that the gist of it. :)

tbb9
Sep 6, 2011
How tight should I torque the bolt on the rear axel after adjusting my chain?

Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.
I usually tighten it to around 50 foot pounds.

Goredema
Oct 16, 2013

RUIN EVERYTHING

Fun Shoe

tbb9 posted:

How tight should I torque the bolt on the rear axel after adjusting my chain?
Hold on, lemme go check.

EDIT: Haynes manual say 65 Nm for anything pre-K3, 100 Nm for K3 and onward.

65 Nm = 47.94 foot pounds
100 Nm = 73.75 foot pounds

Goredema fucked around with this message at 08:21 on Mar 20, 2014

tbb9
Sep 6, 2011
Alright thanks, I ordered a Haynes manual today, it's so much scarier working on my shiny new bike than it was on my rusty and cracked 250

Goredema
Oct 16, 2013

RUIN EVERYTHING

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tbb9 posted:

Alright thanks, I ordered a Haynes manual today, it's so much scarier working on my shiny new bike than it was on my rusty and cracked 250

Good call, the Haynes manual is friggin' awesome.

Oh, one other thing: if you take the back wheel off, for the love of god make sure to put it back on with all the spacers and stuff in the right order. Doing it wrong results in the wheel bearings burning up almost immediately, which is a Bad Thing.

ArbitraryTA
May 3, 2011
I actually got the Hayne's manual with my bike. Shop manuals are love.

Anyways, I was curious of a thing. Coming for a cruiser I love everything about my bike but the sound. Or lack thereof. What's a decent slip on to give me a nice throaty sound when I'm driving around?

tbb9
Sep 6, 2011

ArbitraryTA posted:

I actually got the Hayne's manual with my bike. Shop manuals are love.

Anyways, I was curious of a thing. Coming for a cruiser I love everything about my bike but the sound. Or lack thereof. What's a decent slip on to give me a nice throaty sound when I'm driving around?

I'd just search a bunch of YouTube till you find something you like, my bike came with a yoshimura rs-3c and I love it, PO had a baffle he never installed and I can see why.



Svrider.com has lead me to believe that I can buy a tail case that replaces my pillion seat and uses the lock, I haven't been able to find anything online though, is this a myth?

tbb9 fucked around with this message at 14:43 on Mar 21, 2014

Goredema
Oct 16, 2013

RUIN EVERYTHING

Fun Shoe

ArbitraryTA posted:

What's a decent slip on to give me a nice throaty sound when I'm driving around?
I picked up a Delkevic pipe on the recommendation of SVRider.com, and have been very happy with it. The longer version is quiet (but rumbly) when I'm sneaking in or out of my quiet neighborhood, but has a nice deep roar when you open the throttle. It was also much cheaper than any other option I could find.

ArbitraryTA
May 3, 2011
Ok after driving a 120 mile round trip yesterday I am thinking the stock seat needs replacing forever.

Any good seats for 650s that have a bit more cushion to them or am I still just spoiled from the touring seat I had on my last bike?

kenny powerzzz
Jan 20, 2010
I cannot say enough about the Sargent seat. By far the best mod I did to my Sv. Comfortable all day long and it angles a little differently so your nuts aren't smashed into the tank when you decel. It is a little shorter so if you're a shorter guy it lowers seat height by about an inch. I'm 6'2" so I didn't need that inch but it doesn't bother me.

xaarman
Mar 12, 2003

IRONKNUCKLE PERMABANNED! READ HERE

kenny powerzzz posted:

I cannot say enough about the Sargent seat. By far the best mod I did to my Sv. Comfortable all day long and it angles a little differently so your nuts aren't smashed into the tank when you decel. It is a little shorter so if you're a shorter guy it lowers seat height by about an inch. I'm 6'2" so I didn't need that inch but it doesn't bother me.

Converted SV650 to full time track bike

Selling Sargent seat

$220 shipped

PM for pics

ADINSX
Sep 9, 2003

Wanna run with my crew huh? Rule cyberspace and crunch numbers like I do?

So I'm installing some old stock handlebars back on my sv650 (I had suburban machinery bars but didn't like them), it looks like those drilled holes line up between the two bars, but I'm not sure what they're used for... I imagine its to keep the throttle body from slipping around but I'm not sure what screw goes through it, or even how a screw could since its only drilled on top of the bar (on both bars)

Could someone post a guide for swapping bars, something with pictures possibly? I couldn't find anything on google because apparently this is the easiest thing in the world, but I'm screwing it up.

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Frozen Pizza Party
Dec 13, 2005

ADINSX posted:

So I'm installing some old stock handlebars back on my sv650 (I had suburban machinery bars but didn't like them), it looks like those drilled holes line up between the two bars, but I'm not sure what they're used for... I imagine its to keep the throttle body from slipping around but I'm not sure what screw goes through it, or even how a screw could since its only drilled on top of the bar (on both bars)

Could someone post a guide for swapping bars, something with pictures possibly? I couldn't find anything on google because apparently this is the easiest thing in the world, but I'm screwing it up.

The switchgear has a little peg on the inside that sits in that hole. The starter/kill switch box thingy. Its to keep the switchgear from spinning around the bar if the screws holding it together get loose.

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