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go to the libary to pick up some supplememts with rules for aminals
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i actually play 2e and try to cannibalize the redeemable parts of the setting and system (more than people think on the former, less than what people think on the latter). the abyssal game i'm in is actually pretty decent and the players/GM are goons who are really good at what they do!
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Mar 24, 2014 22:16
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what's 2.5e combat like anyway
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Mar 24, 2014 22:32
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also, which halloween monster does your abyssal character most closely resemble
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Mar 24, 2014 22:33
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Ferrinus posted:also, which halloween monster does your abyssal character most closely resemble Dio Brando
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Mar 24, 2014 22:34
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My exalted dude is Mozgus, from Berzerk.
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Mar 24, 2014 22:39
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Ferrinus posted:what's 2.5e combat like anyway i actually want to hear this. i assume ticks, flurries, onslaught penalties, etc make it take real long but how balanced or degenerate does it feel? since the final version of the 2.5 rules made things involve fewer perfects in general right
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Mar 24, 2014 22:42
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well, perfects got hella nerfed and take more motes but iirc ticks take the same and the gameplay is still rocket tag (unless you have monstro soak) that means trying to economize dodge/parry charms and keep blasting the enemy. my guy is a thrown-based fighter who just flies around and does potshots from afar but he's not that good at combat since i'm one of the "party faces" who do diplo poo poo
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Mar 24, 2014 22:46
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crime fighting hog posted:like spaghetti and milk. that is basically what fettuccine alfredo is tho
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Mar 24, 2014 22:49
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Ferrinus posted:i actually want to hear this. i assume ticks, flurries, onslaught penalties, etc make it take real long but how balanced or degenerate does it feel? since the final version of the 2.5 rules made things involve fewer perfects in general right It actually doesn't have to take really long with a small number of participants because, with static defenses and soak being made a lot more relevant and perfects being expensive, it's typically more optimal to try and focus someone down with big attacks they must do something about than trying to ping them down. Most combat characters, PC and NPC, will either have high persistent dodge/parry where you need to use excellencies or perfect attacks to hit them or have a shitload of soak and health levels. Possibly both. This makes using flurries either really expensive or counterproductive. With the decrease in artifact armor cost, Superheavy Plate is a lot more common, and Hardness can easily get to the point where some characters need to increase base damage to make their attacks do anything. Big fights can still be a pain, because everyone has so many options for their action and so many dice are being rolled. An automated die roller really, really helps though. Probably the time when the core system degenerates most is during high-level play; At that point, characters are going to have (A) a mechanism for hitting virtually anyone for high damage and (B) a perfect defense. Unless the GM gets creative, a group of 5 characters can attrition down most boss fights by making the boss perfect until he or she runs out of motes, and if they cannot do this, they don't really have ways of winning the fight unless they can invoke the boss's flaw of invulnerability, and most of the flaws as-written are pretty bad in the sense that they don't come up a lot. A skilled GM can potentially get around it by making new flaws of invulnerability, giving bosses custom defenses that are very strong but not perfect, or countless other methods, but at that point you're straight up building custom content to mitigate the flaws of the core system.
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Mar 24, 2014 22:58
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I wanna play a kung fu wizard
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Mar 24, 2014 23:09
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Ferrinus posted:there's a good chance that the chargen rules will be owod tier and that there'll be goofy sex magick lying around in some supplememts somewhere Are the supplements going to be actual splats you can elect not to use, or are they going to make the core book crippleware with information missing, White Wolf style
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Mar 24, 2014 23:21
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my favorite thing was DMs disallowing complete warrior or complete scoundrel and the like because those books made those non-casters actually almost playable
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Mar 24, 2014 23:33
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especially damning was disallowing tome of battle
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Mar 24, 2014 23:33
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LSTB posted:Are the supplements going to be actual splats you can elect not to use, or are they going to make the core book crippleware with information missing, White Wolf style exalted has both; there are hardbacks which are essentially the corebooks for different game lines within the same setting (your Lunars, your DBs, etc) and also just regular supplements that'll contain new content that expands or outclasses existing material like d&d's insatiable hunger for feats
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Mar 24, 2014 23:35
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book of nine swords was hella trill
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Mar 24, 2014 23:35
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this troper posted:my favorite thing was DMs disallowing complete warrior or complete scoundrel and the like because those books made those non-casters actually almost playable I played in a 3.5 game where tome of battle and complete warrior were banned. I was a radiant servant of pelor with divine metamagic
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Mar 24, 2014 23:35
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Attorney at Funk posted:I played in a 3.5 game where tome of battle and complete warrior were banned. I was a radiant servant of pelor with divine metamagic this was usually the case.
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Mar 24, 2014 23:42
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D&D is implied setting! *names ur gods 4 u*
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Mar 24, 2014 23:43
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LSTB posted:D&D is implied setting! *names ur gods 4 u* Implied, LSTB... or implode?
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Mar 24, 2014 23:48
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this troper posted:my favorite thing was DMs disallowing complete warrior or complete scoundrel and the like because those books made those non-casters actually almost playable Look man not everyone can have as much fun as the wizard. Theres only so much fun to go around.
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Mar 24, 2014 23:54
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LSTB posted:Are the supplements going to be actual splats you can elect not to use, or are they going to make the core book crippleware with information missing, White Wolf style supposedly the corebook has enough information to allow you to run all the other major exalted types as like broadly sketched npc antagonists etc. i DON'T expect "this faction is secretly controlled by this other faction that's only detailed to any degree in the next supplement" owodisms
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Mar 25, 2014 00:01
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was that a thing
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Mar 25, 2014 00:06
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remember when the sabbath was divided between the black hand and the TRUE black hand
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Mar 25, 2014 00:14
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i love having a thing and then the TRUE thing
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Mar 25, 2014 00:26
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this troper posted:especially damning was disallowing tome of battle yeah i kinda feel like if you care enough to dive headfirst into 3.5 splat horseshit but dont use tome of battle then you kinda suck
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Mar 25, 2014 00:27
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serioustalk i loved VtM and it was the rpg i played the most during my teen years but looking back holy poo poo the plot is retarded
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Mar 25, 2014 00:29
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Ferrinus posted:i love having a thing and then the TRUE thing I'm a true brujah
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Mar 25, 2014 00:30
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this troper posted:my favorite thing was DMs disallowing complete warrior or complete scoundrel and the like because those books made those non-casters actually almost playable I think it's legit hilarious that 90% of all Pathfinder errata is them nerfing what few things they give non-casters once they realize they accidentally let something effective slip by.
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Mar 25, 2014 00:34
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i was genuinely annoyed to hear they nerfed crane wing because i legitimately liked that feat chain, due to being actually useful. not sure what else got hit
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Mar 25, 2014 00:39
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ProfessorCirno posted:I think it's legit hilarious that 90% of all Pathfinder errata is them nerfing what few things they give non-casters once they realize they accidentally let something effective slip by. Well how else will a cleric be able to compete with a martial?
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Mar 25, 2014 00:47
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Ferrinus posted:supposedly the corebook has enough information to allow you to run all the other major exalted types as like broadly sketched npc antagonists etc. i DON'T expect "this faction is secretly controlled by this other faction that's only detailed to any degree in the next supplement" owodisms Can you play as other Exalted in the core or are you stuck with the boring shitlords that are the Solar? Only cool Exalted are Dragonblood and Alchemicals. Sidereals are at least Not-poo poo. The others belong in the trash.
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Mar 25, 2014 01:30
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Attorney at Funk posted:I played in a 3.5 game where tome of battle and complete warrior were banned. I was a radiant servant of pelor with divine metamagic Our high school game I was in ended at lvl 23, I was a RSOP plus some other poo poo I can't remember and with divine metamagic was able to cast a 24 hour long timestop. good times. I'm not digging out his sheet if I even have it anymore but I think my 2 epic feats were permanent aura spells from the book of exalted deeds and lolllllllllllllllll
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Mar 25, 2014 01:35
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Ferrinus posted:from all appearances, it will ship with functioning systems for both combat and social interaction, making it possible for the first time to actually play exalted rather than hypothesize about playing exalted
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Mar 25, 2014 02:35
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ImpactVector posted:I'll believe this when I loving see it. Exalted has always been a hot mess. I don't know why people think this time is going to be any different. "This guy is far more organized than what we gave credit for"
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Mar 25, 2014 03:01
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i don't know which system is more playable, exalted or big eyes small mouth
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Mar 25, 2014 03:07
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Plutonis posted:"Mike Mearls is far more organized than what we gave credit for"
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Mar 25, 2014 03:16
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my uni d&d 3.5 group bans the players handbook classes, so no wizard, cleric or druid (or fighter) it's still poo poo but they're not willing to try 4e so i can't really hold it against them for trying to fix a broken system (i don't play d&d with them tho, no gaming > bad gaming)
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Mar 25, 2014 03:31
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ungulateman posted:my uni d&d 3.5 group bans the players handbook classes, so no wizard, cleric or druid (or fighter) talk them into playing a good system for cool people like dungeon world instead of polishing a turd
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i don't play games ever since i moved to a lovely wasteland
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