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Darth TNT posted:I think I broke my tongue trying to pronounce that. Don't be silly, it's a perfectly legit made-up language on the level of Tolkein's elvish. Here is some great etymology: Trope: Stellar Name posted:(Gîlboron, Gîlyon, Gîlsayr: Gîl is derived from Gie'il, which in Aenôrian means star (lit. night light))
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quote:Also, all the fancy letters/diacritics on this page have become ASCII crud. From its discussion page. So the story is even less interesting: the royal house isn't really a registered trademark and the kingdom isn't worth a few cents.
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Mar 26, 2014 10:36
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Yeah, the site tends to poo poo itself when faced with unusual characters. Another example of Eddie's magnificent coding.
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Mar 26, 2014 10:39
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DoctorPresident posted:Fun Fact: If you want to watch NC's sycophants go berserk, tell them that Kickassia (NC's horrible movie) is even worse than The Room. Eh, arguable, in a hopelessly circular sense. The Room was supposed to be a serious drama that failed so horrifically that it ended up a comedy. Kickassia was made as a fanservice niche product to cater to the, er, 'unique' audience, never thought itself as much else, and in so basically succeeded, even if it failed as a comedy, its supposed purpose. Unless Doug and co really thought they were making the next great comedy, or were trying to, I wasn't there.
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Mar 26, 2014 12:13
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The Room is funny because it wasn't meant to be. Bad dramas are funny, but bad comedies are just sad. When Tommy Wiseau intentionally tries to make comedy, it's complete garbage too.
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Mar 26, 2014 12:27
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Cornwind Evil posted:Kickassia was made as a fanservice niche product to cater to the, er, 'unique' audience, never thought itself as much else, and in so basically succeeded, even if it failed as a comedy, its supposed purpose. Unless Doug and co really thought they were making the next great comedy, or were trying to, I wasn't there. It's probably a little bit of everything. I want to say for the first year they did the "epic brawl" or whatever nonsense and since then the films have gotten more and more overblown with every iteration and more fan servicy than the last. It's a bit sad that Doug is in charge of this since he might be good* at reviews he knows fuckall about actually making movies. It would be smart to let Brad Jones or one of the guys who actually knows his poo poo about movies take over directing these yearly things. *good being completely subjective of course.
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quote:Free advice to aspiring fantasy writers: Tossing around names like "Prÿs Tîwele" doesn't make your story seem authentic, it makes it seem unreadable.
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I don't know how long this has been in effect but there is a You May Like section at the bottom of all tvtropes pages with pictures corresponding to the suggested articles. Gag Boobs always seems to be in the mix of six. As most of you are aware, tropers have decided that there should be an absurdly high number of different tropes about breasts (I'm pretty sure 100% of which feature a cartoon as the page image). I browsed through a lot of them and the mere presence of so many  written by spergs about boobs is exhausting enough (including the Real Life folders, wtf) that, again, we could dedicate an entire thread to it.That being said, in the Discussion tab for Buxom Is Better, the following caught my eye. For context, two tropers are seeing "improper use" of the trope and having trouble deciding which example of huge titties should go where, given that there are so many tropes on the subject. One of them replies: quote:[...] (By the way, Token Loli and Sliding Scale of Anime/Manga Breast Size link to dead pages BUT they do have live pages for Hermaphrodite and Pettanko.) Anyway, let's see what examples they have listed under World of Buxom, starting with one of the animes mentioned above: quote:Divergence Eve: Despite being very dramatic and nearly devoid of comedy or mention of them, the entire female cast (with the exception of the flat-chested android) have very large breasts that Gainax Bounce with every turn. A quick diversion, if I may. YMMV: Divergence Eve posted:Best Known for the Fanservice: People tend to take one look at the box art and shun the series entirely. I haven't seen the show but I'm going to assume these people made a wise decision. Also holy poo poo Best Known for the Fanservice is absolutely huge (no pun intended). quote:Manyu Hikencho, as a world where breast size literally equals power, has a lot of busty females as both friends and adversaries. Link provided because that anime also looks ripe for the mocking. quote:Eiken, being the image, doesn't care whether the female characters are adults, teenagers, or elementary school-aged. Instead, it throws massive tits on most of them. Hell, they go so far as to change boob size mid-scene in the name of fanservice. And this is actually one of the tamer works by its author; his other stuff tend to make this series' busty characters look small. Charming. The page for Eiken no longer exists. A quick search brought up the "P5" debate regarding it being cut from the site: Komodin posted:Now, personally, I'm for keeping it gone because, while it's not straight-up pornography (being just heavily ecchi), one of the major characters is a preteen girl with breasts literally the size of watermelons. However, since I'm always for a second opinion on matters like this, I ask you guys... do you all want it to stay gone, or do you want to bring it back? Catbert posted:I don't know much about the work so I don't know if this is a keep or cut, but one observation I would make is that huge breasts doesn't sound like something intended to appeal to lolicons. I guess that makes its appeal to pedophiles sorta iffy? Martello posted:Eiken is a strange case. On the one hand, it definitely sexualizes children. He could and should have stopped there. Martello posted:On the other hand, it does it by giving them very adult features - huge breasts, obviously. My concern is that it also sexualizes the main character who's an underage boy. I really don't get the mentality behind the work so I'm not going to try to dissect it and come up with some specific fetish or paraphilia it's supposed to cater to. Either way, there's a young boy and a number of young girls in very sexual situations, which to me is still in the spirit of pedo-pandering, giant breasts aside. Arha posted:I think the girls probably get a pass so long as there's no actual sex and they don't actually look young. Weird and creepy, but not pedo pandering. I'm not sure about the protagonist. GIS shows a guy with a pretty vague looking age. Actually, I didn't find many pictures of him since apparently no one cares about him. Unless the protagonist really does look like a child the manga is only terrible, not pedo pandering. This is more like it. "It's clearly something no human being should have ever produced but there's no explicit child sex so it belongs on our Family Friendly Website!" Fast Eddie, Lord of the Tropers posted:It's creepy as poo poo. Let's don't waste any time on this.  Gotta hand it to the guy. When he's right (which granted isn't often), he's right.I really want to get to some of the other posts in that discussion later.
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Prÿs Tîwele and friends are readable if you change the encoding to unicode.quote:Aigânt Tîwele, second heir to the Nerhân throne, is a boy of a chaotic past, of which only parts are revealed. One day, due to being fed up with the boringness of Imperial life, he decides to run away with his older brother, Crown Price Eleyôs. They travel south, to the tribal village were Aigânt was raised in exile, and then travel north to see the fabled capital of Cendôr, Losdæh, a region currently under Nerhân control.
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Mar 26, 2014 13:52
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Shwoo posted:Prÿs Tîwele and friends are readable if you change the encoding to unicode. Boo, now it's just regular terrible fantasy name unreadable instead of an extra-special unique type of unreadable. I liked the old version better. I mean, look at this: quote:Five-Bad Band (Ænôria Siarlæth (Big Bad), Eadrâhk Zammer (The Dragon), Adaïl Xezoth/Dominâncali Aras (Evil Genius), Dominâncali Aras/Eadrâhk Zammer (The Brute), Ornarvrem Zeruê (Dark Chick)) (though more like Five Ethically Ambiguous Individuals Band) quote:Th eventually turns out to be Zastohda, who rather graphically died the previous story arc. He explains his name as a "fallen Z", as the Nerhân symbol for Th is a 90° turned S/Z. This is a work of art.
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Mar 26, 2014 14:08
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Yeah, somebody copy/pasted some UTF-8 encoded Word file into tvtropes, which serves every page as ISO-8859-1 because Fast Eddie is an idiot.
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Suspicious Dish posted:Yeah, somebody copy/pasted some UTF-8 encoded Word file into tvtropes, which serves every page as ISO-8859-1 because Fast Eddie is an idiot. These forums can't really handle a lot of special symbols either.
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Mar 26, 2014 16:28
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Arcsquad12 posted:The Room can at least be enjoyed as a comedy. Kickassia IS a comedy. And it's terrible. Their most recent movie was over three hours long and from what little I saw, seems to consist almost entirely of one person scenes. I know all these people are stretched out across the country, but maybe you should take that into consideration before working on a three hour long epic which barely has two people in the same room for the majority of its runtime.
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Mar 26, 2014 16:53
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Kaboom Dragoon posted:Their most recent movie was over three hours long and from what little I saw, seems to consist almost entirely of one person scenes. I know all these people are stretched out across the country, but maybe you should take that into consideration before working on a three hour long epic which barely has two people in the same room for the majority of its runtime. They actually shoot the films together in one place. The problem is that they also do it in like a weekend, and Doug doesn't pay them, so they have to split up in order to film as many scenes at the same time as possible.
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Mar 26, 2014 17:05
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corn in the bible posted:...and Doug doesn't pay them... Are you loving serious?
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Tracula posted:Are you loving serious? Hey man, it will be good for your portfolio.
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Mar 26, 2014 17:31
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Tracula posted:Are you loving serious? I think he might pay their hotel bills, but not being paid is one of the complaints I've seen from people who've been in his dumbass movies. The idea is that they will get exposure and ad revenue by being in the film and that will mean they get a better income (as does the site, of course). That's another reason for the hosed up structure of the films -- every single one of the thirty plus actors is there to get promoted on camera, so they can't be side-characters or have a bit part or they wouldn't agree to be in the film. So every single character has to have a scene where they're front and center, doing something important for the story and pimping their show at the same time.
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Mar 26, 2014 17:32
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Well the last "movie" they did was like two years ago, so it's all kind of a moot point now.
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corn in the bible posted:These forums can't really handle a lot of special symbols either. نعم ما في وسعهم Ben şu anda bir sürü kullanarak ediyorum Ani všetky tieto podivné diakritika a abecedy ファーストエディはちょうどお尻を吸う
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Mar 26, 2014 18:57
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Yeah, like that, I can't read any of that. These forums man, I tell ya
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Mar 26, 2014 21:44
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N. Senada posted:Yeah, like that, I can't read any of that. These forums man, I tell ya That's your browser having a problem, not this site.
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Mar 26, 2014 21:46
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Install Windows posted:That's your browser having a problem, not this site. 
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Mar 26, 2014 21:56
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N. Senada posted:Yeah, like that, I can't read any of that. These forums man, I tell ya 馬鹿外人
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Ninjasaurus posted:I haven't seen the show but I'm going to assume these people made a wise decision. Also holy poo poo Best Known for the Fanservice is absolutely huge (no pun intended). That sure is a thing you found.  Best Known For The Fanservice posted:Cannon God Exaxxion is a near-Eva-level deconstruction of Super Robot stories, particularly of the "aliens invade, teenager's scientist grandfather gives him a robot to fight them with" variety and has a lot to say about the nature of heroism and the truth. Ask people about it on the Internet, though, and all you'll hear is talk, often derisive, about certain scenes with Lolicon undertones (and, uh, one with possible overtones, but still). A large chunk of the page is a lot like the Audience-Alienating Premise page: tropers claiming their animes are very deep and rolling their eyes at people who get turned away by the pedophilia. (I don't know what that last comment about overtones means and I don't want to.) Best Known For The Fanservice posted:In Seikon No Qwaser, breastfeeding and bondage are apparently the only things anyone ever does. Forget the cool characters, literal Elemental Powers, Character Development and kickass battles. For some reason, the page for this anime has been recently deleted, but the name sounds familiar... I posted:Manga: Seikon no Qwaser Why yes, dear tropers, hentai usually is remembered for the pornographic aspects. Why the hell would you expect anything else? Best Known For The Fanservice posted:Mulholland Drive apparently consists entirely of random weird stuff surrounding a hot lesbian make-out between Naomi Watts and Laura Harring. Except that really is all that happened. You get indignant when people overlook the ~true art~ of your pedophile porn animes and dismiss them as pedophile porn animes, but on the same page you turn around when David Lynch comes up and say "Nah, this time they're right, there's really nothing here except fanservice"? Best Known For The Fanservice posted:Pokémon Who the hell primarily knows Pokemon for its "fanservice"? If you asked me to think of a female character in Pokemon, I'd say Misty or Jessie because when I was a kid they were the female regula- wait why the gently caress are you memorizing and comparing the chest sizes of ten-year-old girls?
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Mar 26, 2014 22:51
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I don't understand why you can't just jerk off to things instead of making them deep and meaningful.
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Mar 26, 2014 23:02
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Maremidon posted:I don't understand why you can't just jerk off to things instead of making them deep and meaningful. Because otherwise that would mean the things they like aren't deep and meaningful. And therefore just cartoon porn, which makes them feel uncomfortable when you remind them of that.
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Maremidon posted:I don't understand why you can't just jerk off to things instead of making them deep and meaningful. I thought you were quoting a troper who was wondering why people bother to write stories at all.
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Maremidon posted:I don't understand why you can't just jerk off to things instead of making them deep and meaningful. Because if they just jerked off, they can't self-justify that every single one of their life choices was correct and that the world just didn't understand them and never will, they're the evolved, enlightened one, man. The concept of the hikkomori was brought up recently, and in a way these types are worse. Japan's pressure (which I honestly see as a societal detriment, because it seems less geared to try and help everyone succeed to the best of their ability and more to ensure that every part of the human condition that Japan finds distasteful is scoured away, from the very little I know, and hence could be completely wrong about, I will note) is universal, and has the terrible double whammy of having no help or refuge from, and immediately being labelled as a failure if you succumb to it, and since every person is wired differently, some are inevitably going to. Not only is that not the case in the United States, where most tropers are likely from, but there's far less united societal judgment; for the most part, people don't care. Yet they withdraw, make up a new world where they're just too advanced for the rest of us, and then tell us from the safety of their computers. We need our own term, that can also serve as a synonym for 'pathetic', for such types, but knowing them they'd completely miss the point and adapt it as a trope and start applying it to Humbert Humbert like the Woobie.
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Wales Grey posted:Because otherwise that would mean the things they like aren't deep and meaningful. And therefore just cartoon porn, which makes them feel uncomfortable when you remind them of that. I think that at some level they understand that child porn is, if not wrong, at least generally considered socially unacceptable. They see art as a loophole.
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Lottery of Babylon posted:Forget the cool characters, literal Elemental Powers, Character Development and kickass battles. 
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Wales Grey posted:馬鹿外人 This guy gets it
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loving really? Also, it's Night on Bald Mountain and it's one of the most iconic scenes in Western Animation and you make it about seeing a demons tits? quote:Muchi Muchi Pork is known less for the bells and whistles of a Shinobu Yagawa shmup like rank and crazy scoring mechanics, and more for its pandering to plus-size fetishists. Why would you have a page for something like this? quote:And take it all the way to 1988 and Final Fantasy II. Firion gets seduced by a lamia queen disguised as the princess. Prior to Dissidia, if you remembered just one thing about II, it was that. Considering that Square Enix themselves play it up, though, you can't really be blamed for it. Wasn't this what the trope was originally about? Something whose overall quality is ignored due to one element.
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When I think of Fantasia, the first thing that comes to mind is this: Not a half second nipple flash from a Harpy.
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Disney's Fantasia, sweet shot of a nipple.
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Testekill posted:Wasn't this what the trope was originally about? Something whose overall quality is ignored due to one element. That's how tropers consume most media.
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quote:Spice and Wolf prominently features the female lead stark naked in the first episode. She's not human, but that can lead people to the wrong conclusions easily enough, and many who have not watched the show assume that she goes around naked frequently, when in fact she prefers to wear clothes in her human form because she gets cold without her fur.
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Not seen the show myself, but a good 80% of the pics I've seen of her have had her fully clothed. Besides, isn't the main character supposed to be a nature goddess of some variety? They're usually free and easy with the clothing policy, from what I remember.
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Kaboom Dragoon posted:Not seen the show myself, but a good 80% of the pics I've seen of her have had her fully clothed. Besides, isn't the main character supposed to be a nature goddess of some variety? They're usually free and easy with the clothing policy, from what I remember. Yeah, she's basically a harvest goddess sort of thing (I don't remember the specifics, been a while since I watched it) and, well, yeah. Holy crap TVT manages to make that sound creepy in their attempts to assure us it's not creepy. (It really isn't creepy; was surprisingly good even. It's on Netflix if anyone's curious.) There's all of, like, one scene where she has no clothes on, and it's not explicit because it's not a show about that sort of stuff. It's a low-fantasy (pretty much mundane outside of the titular wolf) series about getting by as a traveling merchant in crappy medieval times. That's a special talent of TVT's, really. Not only do they try to justify the creepy things they like, but when they talk about normal things they manage to make them sound horrible as well. I'm still baffled by that Fantasia thing; I didn't even know there was that in it, and yet they, in their attempts to assure us it's not a big deal, put so much focus on it that, well, yeah. Basically TVT dost protest too much re: Not being creeps. Roland Jones fucked around with this message at 07:02 on Mar 27, 2014 |
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Kaboom Dragoon posted:Not seen the show myself, but a good 80% of the pics I've seen of her have had her fully clothed. Besides, isn't the main character supposed to be a nature goddess of some variety? They're usually free and easy with the clothing policy, from what I remember. IIRC (I think it's been five years or so since I've seen it), she's clothed most of the time and when she is naked, it's usually with her back turned or curled in a fetal position after transforming back from a wolf. It's definitely not sexualized, at least by anime standards. Really, the show is completely focused on medieval economics and mercantilism (one episode's plot revolves around the main character arbitraging coins with slightly different amounts of gold in them, and the wolf character helps him out by listening to slight difference in tone when the coins click together). I think that troper is just trying to make it sound way more controversial than it really is.
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The creepy obsession with Doug Walker continues.Best Known For The Fanservice posted:From the way TGWTG fandom tells it, you'd think the whole eighteen minutes of the Sonic movie was just Doug Walker getting abused and then made to kneel. Best Known For The Fanservice posted:The Game Heroes ad where The Nostalgia Critic gets kidnapped. Fangirls completely failed to notice what they were selling, being distracted by the pretty boy getting manhandled and a gun being put to his head.
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