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Voyager I: Jun 29, 2012; This is how your posting feels.
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mikey posted:

It's really not that hard, you just have to not be a twitchy retard. You wait to bubble until you're clear of your own fleet, unless you're tackling a titan or something (then you just poo poo bubbles and cross your fingers). A lot of this comes down to being in the right place at the right time, which means having situational awareness and thinking ahead, which, uh... ok, I can see why this is a problem in GSF.

I think part of it is that people have a strong impulse to do something when a fight break out just to feel like they're contributing. Just sitting there watching your buddies duke it out while you're cloaked up out of the fight is rough. Now put that mindset in a ship whose only move is "bubble" and end up with a recipe for hilarious losses.

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Hiowf: Jun 28, 2013; We don't do .DOC in my cave.

Voyager I posted:

I think part of it is that people have a strong impulse to do something when a fight break out just to feel like they're contributing. Just sitting there watching your buddies duke it out while you're cloaked up out of the fight is rough. Now put that mindset in a ship whose only move is "bubble" and end up with a recipe for hilarious losses.

I only bubbled when ordered by the FC - I know that bubbling your own fleet can be fatal (and expensive). Hilarity still ensued.

The problem was position and timing. Practice makes perfect, I guess.

# ? Mar 27, 2014 01:50

Zhaan: Aug 7, 2012; Always like this.

ullerrm posted:

It does look extremely suspect. The suspiciousness of it is largely moot, though:

1) If Vee gets the Titan back, he's going to get back an unfitted hull. CCP almost never includes fittings, contents of the SMA/fleethangar, etc during reimbursement. So even if it's reimbursed, N2 can still go "haha made you go spend billions on a new set of turrets and X-type hardies"

I feel kind of bad that CCP gave me back a fully fitted Ishtar but wouldn't replace something far more valuable that got wrecked by an exploit. That sucks.

# ? Mar 27, 2014 01:59

mikey: Sep 22, 2002; AAAAAAAAA

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Skuto posted:

I only bubbled when ordered by the FC - I know that bubbling your own fleet can be fatal (and expensive). Hilarity still ensued.

The problem was position and timing. Practice makes perfect, I guess.

Most of the terrible bubbles I've seen are FC-ordered bubbles though, usually both mis-timed and mis-placed by the pilot. Like fast tackle, it's one of the roles that always requires some degree of initiative and experience, only with potentially far worse consequences if you gently caress up and bubble your own fleet. The only time one should need to be told to bubble by the FC is on a gate where you don't have access to the intel that the FC is getting from the other side.

But yeah, it takes a lot of practice, so chances are you're gonna gently caress up a few times along the way.

# ? Mar 27, 2014 02:02

Hobold: Jan 10, 2012; I love my Cutlass
I love big stompy mechs
I love my HOTAS
I love to salvage wrecks
I love Star Citizen, and all it's craziness
GOONDEYADA, GOONDEYADA, GOONDEYADA; College Slice

I'm going to be training into HIC/HAC after I finish getting into my marauder. I look forward to the days when I failcascade an entire fleet by doing something horribly wrong with the bubble buttons.

# ? Mar 27, 2014 02:12

Ben Smash: Aug 22, 2005; LARDROOM; Grimey Drawer

I wrote you crazy bastards a story. A Newbee love story.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/21gsrg/i_found_the_best_eve_community_today/
http://eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=2539325&view=kills&m=03&y=2014

quote:

SO:
I will come clean and confess I spent 200 hours in empire space. Which I found out today was a total waste of time. I learned bad habits, didn't get to exploit the universe, played with other people ONCE. I started to cherish my ships with their stupid names. Oh how I thought "I am a badass space pirate who don't take no bullshit. Nobody can destroy me!! I HAEV BEEG GUNS." Oh how wrong I was as I was taught the glorious lesson of loss by my new friends. In literally 2 days, they adopted me as their own, roaming through nullsec. They strode the heavens, confident like warp riders in the storm. I met them over mumble and they helped me break those bad habits.
I learned to love the lesson of loss.
In EVE your ship is not armor, it's battle gear. What's worse, you must learn to become ammunition. My new friends asked me to shed my body and my ships. They asked for no money. Just my life. So I gave it to them and they took me to the promised land. Nullsec. Empire bitches shudder when they hear the word. Tricksters and Evil plotters all. A nullsec corporation. Thriving, surviving. On my first fleet all ships were fitted to a T and the FC spoke with confidence and AUTHORITY. We banded together like old friends and then, they trusted me with the sacred duty of getting loving blapped. Again I gave my life. Not in vain. Never in vain for them.
When I had idiotic questions they calmly addressed them and laughed off my idiocy. "No newbee, you can't fly that. Thats loving retarded." Bold men all, they had a point. So I suited up in my steed, gifted to me upon entrance (along with 100M ISK and counting + bounties + loot + sick sick logi). I put my pod, like loading a gun, into The AIDS Needle my new, free, Minmatar tackle. They told me "get on point you cute piece of poo poo" and I did as I was told. I scored my first killmail and I was now blood brother to these mad kings of skirmish.
It wasn't long after they taught me the bait and switch; once again giving my life like a bullet. Two days. Their most aggressive campaign yet. I was breathless. THIS. GAME. IS. AWESOME. HOLY poo poo. I had been missing this in Empire space. I was at a loss for the time i spent getting more pew pew out of ships i named after penises and stuff. I could have been getting mad killmails m8.
They accepted me. As I was. And showed me the galaxy as it really was. Brutal. Fatalistic. Swift, Righteous. These warrior few knew their destiny in the stars. They wanted it all and they wanted me to come with. I knew I was taken then, destined to play EVE for life. To lose the game, as they say.
But I couldn't have done it all and seen the best without Goons.
No Siree

# ? Mar 27, 2014 02:13

nessin: Feb 7, 2010

Calidar posted:

As stated above NC. claim they used a typhoon spy to bump, Goons say there was no spy and it was cyno bumped out.
http://i.imgur.com/szUioKS.jpg
This seems to side with goons.

That is an NC. titan bumping off the shields and doesn't really answer any question. What it shows is that titans are bumping off the shields (and one of them is going 250m/s by the time they are 90k off) and that a enemy (CFC) titan is somewhere around 10-20km away from the tower on the opposite side, that could have gotten there from bumping via the cyno, a spy, or could have gotten there some other way.

What is fishy, at least to me, is either there two people directly involved per the TMC article (the bumper and guy lighting the cyno) or one person involved who got the password from a second, then bumped and lit a cyno. If two people were involved, what possible reason would you have to cyno in right on the shields? If one person was involved and they were so sensitive about time why was the cyno lit in nearly the furthest possible point he'd have to travel to get out of the shields to light it and why does it appear if he was in a rush then that he came to a complete or nearly complete stop before he lit the cyno based on the image?

# ? Mar 27, 2014 02:17

FruitNYogurtParfait: Mar 29, 2006; Sion lied. Deadtear died for our sins. #VengeanceForDeadtear
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nessin posted:

That is an NC. titan bumping off the shields and doesn't really answer any question. What it shows is that titans are bumping off the shields (and one of them is going 250m/s by the time they are 90k off) and that a enemy (CFC) titan is somewhere around 10-20km away from the tower on the opposite side, that could have gotten there from bumping or could have gotten there some other way.

If one person was involved and they were so sensitive about time why was the cyno lit in nearly the furthest possible point he'd have to travel to get out of the shields to light it

I'm all for attacking what is an obviously bullshit story, but their idiotic claim is that they bumped him out, then popped a cyno "too close" and it shot him out the other side of the shield.

# ? Mar 27, 2014 02:19

Rhymenoserous: May 23, 2008

mikey posted:

It's really not that hard, you just have to not be a twitchy retard. You wait to bubble until you're clear of your own fleet, unless you're tackling a titan or something (then you just poo poo bubbles and cross your fingers). A lot of this comes down to being in the right place at the right time, which means having situational awareness and thinking ahead, which, uh... ok, I can see why this is a problem in GSF.

It requires being an independent thinker.

# ? Mar 27, 2014 02:23

Delusibeta: Aug 7, 2013; Let's ride together.

B3n_5mash posted:

I wrote you crazy bastards a story. A Newbee love story.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/21gsrg/i_found_the_best_eve_community_today/
http://eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=2539325&view=kills&m=03&y=2014

As I type, that's got +14 karma, which is odd since I'd have expected a pro-Goons post to be downvoted into oblivion faster than you can say "ten dollars".

Comments will probably be entertaining, though. :munch:

# ? Mar 27, 2014 02:33

Otacon: Aug 13, 2002

Delusibeta posted:

As I type, that's got +14 karma, which is odd since I'd have expected a pro-Goons post to be downvoted into oblivion faster than you can say "ten dollars".

Comments will probably be entertaining, though.

My thoughts exactly. Godspeed, MacGillicutty Smash. Shine on, you crazy diamond.

# ? Mar 27, 2014 02:36

Innominate: Sep 2, 2004; The Innominate

Zhaan posted:

I feel kind of bad that CCP gave me back a fully fitted Ishtar but wouldn't replace something far more valuable that got wrecked by an exploit. That sucks.

What generally happens is CCP returns anything that was destroyed. Stuff that dropped they won't return as they won't duplicate assets.

# ? Mar 27, 2014 02:58

mikey: Sep 22, 2002; AAAAAAAAA

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Rhymenoserous posted:

It requires being an independent thinker.

Right, and that's something you don't really get from only flying fleet ops. The best way to become a good fleet dictor pilot is to learn to be a good solo/small gang dictor pilot, scout, or FC yourself, so that you understand what you should be doing (and why) before the FC has to tell you.

Innominate posted:

What generally happens is CCP returns anything that was destroyed. Stuff that dropped they won't return as they won't duplicate assets.

Does this usually include destroyed ships in the SMA? Because only 3b of modules from that titan actually dropped. Did NC. even manage to scoop the wreck?

# ? Mar 27, 2014 03:05

pugnax: Oct 10, 2012; Specialization is for insects.

I hosed up a bubble shortly after joining PL and ended up accidentally bubbling our shieldcat fleet like a proper mongoloid. FC called to drop bubbles, which made no sense to me, but I did it anyway - unfortunately he meant for the hic elsewhere in system to take down his bubble. Lesson learned.

# ? Mar 27, 2014 03:18

KaoliniteMilkshake: Jul 9, 2010

ullerrm posted:

Don't skill for a Mach specifically. It's probably the most specialized, single-purpose subcap in GSF's repertoire. Get general skills so you can be good at many ships, and if that happens to make you good at Machs, all the better.

Hell, I'd wager that I've only flown a Mach once in the last six months, and that was the one in my super's SMA so that the pilot can ghostride a bumping ship in an emergency.

(Technically, there's also the "Suas Memorial Vanagon" mach, which is still in Syndicate. But that's a 6B-isk lossmail waiting to happen -- and will probably happen the day before I start winning at Eve.)

For what it's worth, the GSF reimbursement Mach skillplan isn't. It's a plan that will give a pilot an exceedingly good set of support skills, including a few critical utility options, which are allowed on alts. I'm not especially close to it, battleship Vs are a long ways away when you mostly prefer flying fast cruisers, like the scimitars that support Machariels, among others.

# ? Mar 27, 2014 03:19

Doublestep: Sep 8, 2013; Keep on keeping on!

The first time I flew a dictor I bubbled some ships and the FC told me good job and it gave me a really warm fuzzy feeling

fly dictors

# ? Mar 27, 2014 03:30

A Festivus Miracle: Dec 19, 2012; I have come to discourse on the profound inequities of the American political system.

Doublestep posted:

The first time I flew a dictor I bubbled some ships and the FC told me good job and it gave me a really warm fuzzy feeling

fly dictors

The first time I flew dictors I died.
The second time I flew dictors, I died.
The third time I flew dictors, I died.
The fourth time, I flew a hictor. I died.

repeat ad nausem.

Dictors/Hictors tackle fleets but die ~~a lot~~ always.

# ? Mar 27, 2014 03:55

Sorus: Nov 6, 2007; caustic overtones

So, speaking of interdictors, are heretics decent?

# ? Mar 27, 2014 04:14

CainFortea: Oct 15, 2004

I enjoy my Heretics. But I couldn't really tell you why.

# ? Mar 27, 2014 04:19

Rhymenoserous: May 23, 2008

SpacemanSpliff that thread you posted on /r/evedreddit is being filled with some interesting lies and justifications from the TEST side of the fence. I'm amused.

# ? Mar 27, 2014 04:21

Baronash: Feb 29, 2012; So what do you want to be called?

Confirming that Space Police is the best gimmick we run, and that SV is the best group to run it with.

# ? Mar 27, 2014 04:32

FruitNYogurtParfait: Mar 29, 2006; Sion lied. Deadtear died for our sins. #VengeanceForDeadtear
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Rhymenoserous posted:

SpacemanSpliff that thread you posted on /r/evedreddit is being filled with some interesting lies and justifications from the TEST side of the fence. I'm amused.

DHD kicking and screaming is the best.

# ? Mar 27, 2014 04:50

pugnax: Oct 10, 2012; Specialization is for insects.

Rhymenoserous posted:

SpacemanSpliff that thread you posted on /r/evedreddit is being filled with some interesting lies and justifications from the TEST side of the fence. I'm amused.

I just read it and honestly didn't find any interesting lies or justifications. v0v

# ? Mar 27, 2014 04:55

causticBeet: Mar 2, 2010; BIG VINCE COMIN FOR YOU

pugnax posted:

I just read it and honestly didn't find any interesting lies or justifications. v0v

Honestly I am surprised by the lack of grr goons currently in that post

# ? Mar 27, 2014 05:03

Otacon: Aug 13, 2002

deadtear posted:

DHD kicking and screaming is the best.

Socialism? In my EVE?

# ? Mar 27, 2014 05:05

FruitNYogurtParfait: Mar 29, 2006; Sion lied. Deadtear died for our sins. #VengeanceForDeadtear
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pugnax posted:

I just read it and honestly didn't find any interesting lies or justifications. v0v

Shocker.

# ? Mar 27, 2014 05:10

Rhymenoserous: May 23, 2008

Durr is turning into a rather hilarious hypocrite.

# ? Mar 27, 2014 05:10

grumplestiltzkin: Jun 7, 2012; Ass, gas, or grass. No one rides for free.

A White Guy posted:

The first time I flew dictors I died.
The second time I flew dictors, I died.
The third time I flew dictors, I died.
The fourth time, I flew a hictor. I died.

repeat ad nausem.

Dictors/Hictors tackle fleets but die ~~a lot~~ always.

Sabres cost like what, 50-60m? And reimburse for like 150m? And you're telling me they have a 100% death rate?

All I'm hearing is "fly nothing but ~~dictors~~ sabres"

# ? Mar 27, 2014 05:12

Rhymenoserous: May 23, 2008

grumplestiltzkin posted:

Sabres cost like what, 50-60m? And reimburse for like 150m? And you're telling me they have a 100% death rate?

All I'm hearing is "fly nothing but ~~dictors~~ sabres"

In fleets it's kind of expected to blow up. In small gang you can keep it alive if you are clever.

# ? Mar 27, 2014 05:14

FruitNYogurtParfait: Mar 29, 2006; Sion lied. Deadtear died for our sins. #VengeanceForDeadtear
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Otacon posted:

Socialism? In my EVE?

I know how much it makes and how much we get and hoo boy is he wrong.

# ? Mar 27, 2014 05:16

Addamere: Jan 3, 2010; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

deadtear posted:

I know how much it makes and how much we get and hoo boy is he wrong.

Yeah but you are The Man, part of the system hiding the truth. Who would believe you? Certainly not freethinking peoples of le reddit.

# ? Mar 27, 2014 05:26

FruitNYogurtParfait: Mar 29, 2006; Sion lied. Deadtear died for our sins. #VengeanceForDeadtear
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Nietzschean posted:

Yeah but you are The Man, part of the system hiding the truth. Who would believe you? Certainly not freethinking peoples of le reddit.

I'm not a director, I am a lowly moderator which is probably worse in reddit's eyes.

# ? Mar 27, 2014 05:28

Rhymenoserous: May 23, 2008

Nietzschean posted:

Yeah but you are The Man, part of the system hiding the truth. Who would believe you? Certainly not freethinking peoples of le reddit.

They are still convinced that everything we say as is a lie. No matter how many of those things eventually play out exactly how we say they do.

Meanwhile I'm still amused that my predictions made back when they buddied up with PL came true in the most spectacular fashion.

# ? Mar 27, 2014 05:29

Doublestep: Sep 8, 2013; Keep on keeping on!

A White Guy posted:

The first time I flew dictors I died.
The second time I flew dictors, I died.
The third time I flew dictors, I died.
The fourth time, I flew a hictor. I died.

repeat ad nausem.

Dictors/Hictors tackle fleets but die ~~a lot~~ always.

And you get almost 150m a death on top of being ~vital~

Also you're usually the first target so you don't have to sit in tidi forever if its a huge local battle

# ? Mar 27, 2014 05:41

Magic Rabbit Hat: Nov 4, 2006; Just follow along if you don't wanna get neutered.

Rhymenoserous posted:

They are still convinced that everything we say as is a lie. No matter how many of those things eventually play out exactly how we say they do.

Meanwhile I'm still amused that my predictions made back when they buddied up with PL came true in the most spectacular fashion.

Why would they believe the propaganda from The Mittani's Evil Empire? Obviously Test's got it good; better, in fact, than any other Alliance out there since they're free from the shackles of Sov and Reimbursement Programs and also fun.

Oh yeah, for Dictorchat, I've got an alt who I figure I'd throw into a Flycatcher or Heretic for fun. Anybody have fittings for either ship that's not literally just "Prop mod, Probe Launcher, Cloak"?

Magic Rabbit Hat fucked around with this message at 06:20 on Mar 27, 2014

# ? Mar 27, 2014 05:53

Bean Head: Feb 22, 2014

I have a nano and reaction control fitted blaster Eris that does pretty well :v:

# ? Mar 27, 2014 06:27

HiveCommander: Jun 19, 2012

What's the state of the game? Been in and out of Eve a few times and Krursk's trying to convince me to give it another shot, despite almost losing his carrier in an escalation (haha).

I missed my days of high-sec griefing and safaris from when I was rolling with the Skunkworks, but I think I might give nullsec another shot. Would it be worth it to come out to null and blow up some internet spaceships with you guys as a Caldari pilot, or does everyone still have a huge hard-on for AHAC fleets?

# ? Mar 27, 2014 06:40

causticBeet: Mar 2, 2010; BIG VINCE COMIN FOR YOU

HiveCommander posted:

What's the state of the game? Been in and out of Eve a few times and Krursk's trying to convince me to give it another shot, despite almost losing his carrier in an escalation (haha).

I missed my days of high-sec griefing and safaris from when I was rolling with the Skunkworks, but I think I might give nullsec another shot. Would it be worth it to come out to null and blow up some internet spaceships with you guys as a Caldari pilot, or does everyone still have a huge hard-on for AHAC fleets?

I see pings for like 10 harpy fleets a day so if you're down with that you're set. Also join miniluv and do both.

# ? Mar 27, 2014 06:43

nessin: Feb 7, 2010

deadtear posted:

I'm not a director, I am a lowly moderator which is probably worse in reddit's eyes.

In the world of Reddit, the mods are the gods.

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# ? Jun 11, 2024 16:24

FAT32 SHAMER: Aug 16, 2012

I just looked into the Stratios :stare:

Not only is it good looking, but it can use covops cloak, lasers, and that DPS :stonk:

Time to train Gallente cruisers :3:

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