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Chichevache posted:Romo is a high pick? Of course not, but there's obvious benefits to bringing on a good young QB and letting him develop behind the scenes, and everything outside of that is based around WINZ NOW which is a stupid strategy no matter how you slice it.
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I want to say the plan was for Gabbert to sit for at least a while but they threw him in almost immediately. Locker and Ponder sat for a while, Locker at least only started when Hasselbeck went down. Man what a top of a draft, everyone except those guys in the top 15 is somewhere between solid starter and amazing.
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Grittybeard posted:I want to say the plan was for Gabbert to sit for at least a while but they threw him in almost immediately. Locker and Ponder sat for a while, Locker at least only started when Hasselbeck went down. But dude. The quarterback is the most important position on the field.
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Colt Lyerla's latest gambits are a personal apology tour with NFL executives and firing at least two agents. He will get drafted on Day 3 and make some team's fans go crazy.
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Grittybeard posted:Locker and Ponder sat for a while, Locker at least only started when Hasselbeck went down. Locker had zero starts in his first season, and only saw extensive action in two games where he looked pretty great. Then he won the QB "battle" in 2012 training camp (it wasn't even close).
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Whisenhunt is going to save his career please dumbass teams in the top ten let Bridgewater fall to 11
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I just pray Bridgewater doesn't go to a city with any prominent bridges.
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Grittybeard posted:I want to say the plan was for Gabbert to sit for at least a while but they threw him in almost immediately. Locker and Ponder sat for a while, Locker at least only started when Hasselbeck went down. I want to say they still had Garrard on the team throughout training camp and preseason and then just released him out of the blue and threw Gabbert in week 1 (Jack Del Rio being the huge dickhead that he is supposedly let his defense have a free run to injure Garrard in practice).
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LARGE THE HEAD posted:Colt Lyerla's latest gambits are a personal apology tour with NFL executives and firing at least two agents. He will get drafted on Day 3 and make some team's fans go crazy.
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b0ng posted:I want to say they still had Garrard on the team throughout training camp and preseason and then just released him out of the blue and threw Gabbert in week 1 (Jack Del Rio being the huge dickhead that he is supposedly let his defense have a free run to injure Garrard in practice). I think Garrard was released earlier than that and they ran with a McCown brother for a bit, who then got injured.
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LARGE THE HEAD posted:Colt Lyerla's latest gambits are a personal apology tour with NFL executives and firing at least two agents. He will get drafted on Day 3 and make some team's fans go crazy. Lyerla and his conspiracy theories seems like a perfect fit for the Seahawks
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Rasczak posted:Lyerla and his conspiracy theories seems like a perfect fit for the Seahawks Don't forget his rampant drug use as well! It's meant to be.
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SMH that MattW did this nice post about Bortles and all you guys can talk about is benching QBs.Quest For Glory II posted:Things I'm noticing now that this is the second time I've seen this game.. (PICTURES!!!)
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I still can't get over his size and lack of arm strength. Is that something in his mechanics that might be corrected at the next level?
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When his mechanics are good on a throw it does have a little more zip. But his footwork and balance always seem to break down when he feels the rush coming. Sometimes even when it isn't coming. Bortles makes a nice move to evade a defender and step up into the pocket. The running back is flat out uncovered, and Blake's got at least a little time to set his feet and make the proper throw. The MLB is completely out of the play at this point, because he was spying, and now he's flatfooted.  But Bortles hurries his throw, leaves his feet, throws well behind his receiver. It's kinda blurry but I believe this is the RB and this is the football.  Now, he's throwing across his body, and that's always difficult, but in that circumstance, he might have been better off just taking off to his right. The spy's in no mans land, and is gonna be slow to get there no matter what. One pump fake and he's probably completely toast. But very few good things come from throwing behind the receiver. You're asking for the ball to be swatted into the air by a flailing arm into a waiting defender. The 7th Guest fucked around with this message at 19:35 on Mar 26, 2014 |
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The Puppy Bowl posted:I still can't get over his size and lack of arm strength. Is that something in his mechanics that might be corrected at the next level? I think Bortles is perfectly capable of throwing it deep, he's just not very accurate when he does it. That sounds like a mechanics problem to me.
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His up the middle passes seemed to have good enough speed, he had a couple of impressive tosses there. It was said he "purposefully" overthrew at his pro day to show off his strength but that seems like bullshit media spin to me.
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PrinceRandom posted:It was said he "purposefully" overthrew at his pro day to show off his strength lol I want to see someone argue that they purposefully ran the 40 slower than they normally could because they wanted to save all their energy for their future NFL team.
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 territory but I wonder if, after Teddys pro day, that Bortles was going to have an "impressive" day regardless of what he did just for narrative.
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Good Bortles write up. I don't particularly want him on my team since he reminds me of Josh Freeman a bit too much with slightly better accuracy and worse arm strength.PrinceRandom posted:
Of course he was. Now that there is even more time until the draft the sports media at large has a ton of incentive to keep loving with the QB rankings.
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Relentlessboredomm posted:Of course he was. Now that there is even more time until the draft the sports media at large has a ton of incentive to keep loving with the QB rankings. lol No guys, they don't manufacture QB controversy storylines on purpose. There's been plenty of times where multiple QBs had bad evaluation processes, like last year for instance. What you're seeing is confirmation bias. There are plenty of people out there that said Bridgewater had an ok pro day, like Bill O'Brien for instance. The McShays of the world are so far up their own rear end that they seriously believe everything they say, it just looks like stupid manufactured storylines.
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bhsman posted:Here is Merril Hoge pulling a character assassination on Clowney if anyone cares to watch. We all have some degree of compassion for what concussions do to an athlete after their career is over but every now and then I find myself thinking it would improve my own life just a little bit if Hoge had died when he went through his stuff. e: poo poo you tricked me into clicking on a first take link. Bastard.
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Doltos posted:lol Bucky Brooks, or someone else with NFL network,just released a mock which had zero QBs going in the first round. You going to sit there and tell me that he actually believes that, that it isn't just click bait and manufactured controversy? This the media machine that has Jaws say something ridiculous once every few months just so they can fill hours by talking about what he said. I'm confident that at least half of Kiper and McShay's stuff is designed to be attention grabbing, not accurate.
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Eifert Posting posted:I just pray Bridgewater doesn't go to a city with any prominent bridges. something something Minnesota. something something 'rebuilding phase'. 
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The Puppy Bowl posted:Bucky Brooks, or someone else with NFL network,just released a mock which had zero QBs going in the first round. You going to sit there and tell me that he actually believes that, that it isn't just click bait and manufactured controversy? Honestly? I think half of it are the sports conglomerates twisting what the draft pundits are saying in order to get the storylines. There was a good deadspin article a while back about how Jaws compared Kaepernick to some great QB in an offhand throwaway line. ESPN picked up that specific line and created huge news stories like "Jaws crowns Kaepernick" and dragged Jaws in front of the camera to defend his statement. Jaws, for a while when he first became a talking head, came off as an extremely intelligent football mind. I highly doubt that Jaws would be someone who just creates stories for click views. This couples with my theory that most of the mock drafts and player analysis's aren't done by Mel Kiper Jr or many other popular draft pundits. Their schedules are simply too full for them to devote the same amount of time on evaluating prospects as they did when they were coming up. I believe almost all of it is farmed out to interns, then they slap Mel Kipers stupid face on it and people eat it up. But, mainly my point is that when you give someone a platform to talk about the draft, most opinions are gonna be just that, opinions. People have stupid opinions. People have misinformed opinions. People let biases and prejudices affect their opinions both consciously and subconsciously. Does Bucky Brooks think there will be no QBs in the first? Fuckin' maybe. There's no such thing as being written in stone when it comes to the draft. People can have wide opinions about anything and be as right or wrong about them as things we're 100% confident about. Neither you nor I can predict the first round of the draft, and if we can, then we're just hella lucky.
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Doltos posted:Honestly? I think half of it are the sports conglomerates twisting what the draft pundits are saying in order to get the storylines. There was a good deadspin article a while back about how Jaws compared Kaepernick to some great QB in an offhand throwaway line. ESPN picked up that specific line and created huge news stories like "Jaws crowns Kaepernick" and dragged Jaws in front of the camera to defend his statement. Jaws, for a while when he first became a talking head, came off as an extremely intelligent football mind. I highly doubt that Jaws would be someone who just creates stories for click views. Yeah this is the annoying thing to me, saying Kaep has a whole shitload of tools to work with as an athlete and could (in theory, maybe, if everything goes right) develop into an amazing quarterback was his original point wasn't it? Which is fine, he does. I remember liking Jaws as the goofy looking guy breaking things down when he first started too.
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Doltos posted:Does Bucky Brooks think there will be no QBs in the first? Fuckin' maybe. There's no such thing as being written in stone when it comes to the draft. People can have wide opinions about anything and be as right or wrong about them as things we're 100% confident about. Neither you nor I can predict the first round of the draft, and if we can, then we're just hella lucky. The 7th Guest fucked around with this message at 21:53 on Mar 26, 2014 |
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A lot of the writers at Rotoworld are really dumb but their breakdowns of 2014 Class are really really cool. Its crazy how much better Aaron Donald is right now over the other DT prospects. http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/cfb/46653/349/peshek-dt-metrics-10
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bhsman posted:Here is Merril Hoge pulling a character assassination on Clowney if anyone cares to watch. Hahaha. He's saying what makes Mack successful is transitioning from MLB to OLB? The Bengals have more LBs on their roster that have made that transition at some point than haven't. Does this guy qualify as sentient?
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Are there any good scatbacks in the draft? There has been a lot of talk about the Vikings adding a scatback/3rd down back, since it is a big part of Turner's offense and the Vikings were awful on 3rd downs last year. Unless you count Percy Harvin, the Vikings haven't had a scatback since the days of David Palmer and Amp Lee.
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Eifert Posting posted:Hahaha. No no no it's FOOTBALL SKILLS and PASSION FOR THE GAME and OTHER GARBAGE.
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Is it bad that I'm half hoping a top 15 overall DE or DB gets caught with pot or something to drop him to 24? The Bengals have the potential to be looking at nothing but DTs, WRs and overvalued QBs at 24 and it makes me nervous. Man, I know people say 31 is the worst pic but having so many teams go before yours without a postseason win to show for it really sucks. 
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Eifert Posting posted:Is it bad that I'm half hoping a top 15 overall DE or DB gets caught with pot or something to drop him to 24? The Bengals have the potential to be looking at nothing but DTs, WRs and overvalued QBs at 24 and it makes me nervous. Man, I know people say 31 is the worst pic but having so many teams go before yours without a postseason win to show for it really sucks. You don't think the loser between HaHa and Pryor will be available around then? Unless you meant Gilbert or Dennard exclusively? Though reading what people in here say about Pryor I don't really want much to do with him.
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Intruder posted:De'Anthony Thomas? I did some cursory research and he looks like an option and Dri Archer seems like a similar player. Not as good of a receiver, but he has a similar build and 4.26 speed. Ka'deem Carey is also supposed to be a good receiver out of the backfield, but he's not the same type of player as Thomas or Archer. Edit: After watching some highlights of both Thomas and Archer. Thomas' receiving ability really stands out and Archer's speed definitely shows up in his highlights. Both guys are super quick and agile and have good hands, but I'd prefer Thomas at this stage since he seems like a more polished receiver. Aniki fucked around with this message at 09:26 on Mar 27, 2014 |
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PrinceRandom posted:You don't think the loser between HaHa and Pryor will be available around then? Unless you meant Gilbert or Dennard exclusively? What are people saying about Pryor? I haven't heard too many major flaws about him.
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