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FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

Motronic posted:

If it's interior latex it's likely to come off with nothing more than soap and a sponge.

Or even just a clay bar. Any excuse to make your ride super smooth. :3:

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katkillad2
Aug 30, 2004

Awake and unreal, off to nowhere

meatpimp posted:

What kind of car? It's down through the paint, but if it hasn't rusted, it stopped at the rustproofing layer, whatever that may be. I know I was amazed when I first saw it -- my '86 Audi 4000S had a couple chips exactly like that, but they NEVER rusted. It wasn't until a bit later that I learned that Audi zinc-coated the body panels before painting. That, or something similar, is what is preventing that chip from rusting.

With that, clean it with a scratch stick and touch it up. Something that deep will require several layers of touch up to bring the level back to the rest of the paint surface. Give it a couple days to dry between layers. If you really want to buff/clean/polish, go ahead, then touch up the chip afterwards. As long as you use a scratch stick first, you're not going to do any harm in getting product in the chip.

Thanks for the advice, it's a 2010 Camaro. Can anyone suggest the right product? All I see on Amazon is some "as seen on tv" stuff that has terrible reviews. Just to reiterate, I'm just trying to not make it worse. If I can buff the car without removing the rustproofing or removing more paint that would be the goal.

30mph winds here today and snow Sunday, I'm never going to get to detail my car :smith:.

subx
Jan 12, 2003

If we hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominoes should fall like a house of cards. Checkmate.

katkillad2 posted:

Thanks for the advice, it's a 2010 Camaro. Can anyone suggest the right product? All I see on Amazon is some "as seen on tv" stuff that has terrible reviews. Just to reiterate, I'm just trying to not make it worse. If I can buff the car without removing the rustproofing or removing more paint that would be the goal.

30mph winds here today and snow Sunday, I'm never going to get to detail my car :smith:.

You must live around this region! The Ohio Valley has been amazing this year, as I don't think we've had two days in a row with a similar temperature.

I've never had any problem doing light buffing around little chips like that, but of course YMMV.

katkillad2
Aug 30, 2004

Awake and unreal, off to nowhere

subx posted:

You must live around this region! The Ohio Valley has been amazing this year, as I don't think we've had two days in a row with a similar temperature.

I've never had any problem doing light buffing around little chips like that, but of course YMMV.

Yep...definitely in Ohio. I know 15 minutes after I detail my car a bird will crap on it, but at the very least I want to avoid getting a coat of salt all over it again so as long as snow is in the forecast I'm going to wait.

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

katkillad2 posted:

Thanks for the advice, it's a 2010 Camaro. Can anyone suggest the right product? All I see on Amazon is some "as seen on tv" stuff that has terrible reviews. Just to reiterate, I'm just trying to not make it worse. If I can buff the car without removing the rustproofing or removing more paint that would be the goal.

30mph winds here today and snow Sunday, I'm never going to get to detail my car :smith:.

https://www.drcolorchip.com/ is what most people recommend. Please note that it won't come out as perfect as they are advertising, but it's a decent product for the price, and will make the car a 10 foot car pretty quickly.

Galler
Jan 28, 2008


Holy poo poo clay actually does what everyone says it does. Kinda thought it was as seen on TV grade nonsense for paint spergs, but I got my Autogeek order and spent a couple minutes on half my hood and there's a very obvious difference between the two halves. Even more obvious with the hand in a bag test.

The garage is actually comfortably warm now and I've got gently caress all to do this weekend so I think I might try out this Griot's Garage polisher :getin:

Chinatown
Sep 11, 2001

by Fluffdaddy
Fun Shoe

Galler posted:

Holy poo poo clay actually does what everyone says it does. Kinda thought it was as seen on TV grade nonsense for paint spergs, but I got my Autogeek order and spent a couple minutes on half my hood and there's a very obvious difference between the two halves. Even more obvious with the hand in a bag test.



Hell ya I remember the first time I used it. Especially on the areas where dirt gets kicked up by the tires. :aaaaa:

DonVincenzo
Nov 12, 2010

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Motronic posted:

If it's interior latex it's likely to come off with nothing more than soap and a sponge.

I'm beginning to think it's way more nasty than that. I've tried water + soap and a clay bar but it didn't do anything (the clay bar was filthy though so I guess that earned the car some attention at the very least). I've had the roof resprayed and am beginning to think they might have done that like assholes and sprayed primer (?) around.

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

DonVincenzo posted:

I'm beginning to think it's way more nasty than that. I've tried water + soap and a clay bar but it didn't do anything (the clay bar was filthy though so I guess that earned the car some attention at the very least). I've had the roof resprayed and am beginning to think they might have done that like assholes and sprayed primer (?) around.

So your next best bet would be to tape off the area, get some 4000grit sandpaper, and wetsand the area.
After the paint you want is gone, you can use a DA with some polishing compound and it should come out perfect.

meatpimp
May 15, 2004

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:) EVERYWHERE :)
some high-quality thread's DESTROYED!

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ratbert90 posted:

https://www.drcolorchip.com/ is what most people recommend. Please note that it won't come out as perfect as they are advertising, but it's a decent product for the price, and will make the car a 10 foot car pretty quickly.

Have you used it? I've got a bit of hood rash on the white E39 I just bought... not bad, but it stands out on a white car. Something like that would be great, if it actually works.

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

meatpimp posted:

Have you used it? I've got a bit of hood rash on the white E39 I just bought... not bad, but it stands out on a white car. Something like that would be great, if it actually works.

unfortuantly I have not, however the general concensus on the autogeek forum is it works really well.

http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/porter-cable-7424xp-updates/23450-dr-color-chip.html

http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/porter-cable-7424xp-updates/23450-dr-color-chip.html

http://www.autogeek.net/how-to-repair-paint-chips.html

http://www.autogeek.net/dr-colorchip-paint-chip-repair.html

blk
Dec 19, 2009
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I might be Colorchipping the Saabaru in the next few days; I can report.

Brigdh
Nov 23, 2007

That's not an oil leak. That's the automatic oil change and chassis protection feature.
Eh, in my experience (which seems to be the exception based on the reviews I've seen), DrColorChip doesn't work as well as advertised.

Seems like the newer your car is, the better the paint match. The stuff I got for my '89 FC was about 3 shades too dark (red) and very noticable. The stuff for my '97 Corolla is just a tad darker (metallic green), but once it dries, its hard to tell unless you know exactly where to look. DrColorChip actually matches a lot better than the tube of factory stuff I have. DrColorChip seems to match my '04 RX-8 (light metallic silver) perfectly.

I've had basically zero luck with the product staying in the chip using the recommended process. For prep, I take a fiberglass scratch brush to clean anything out and rough up the surface and then clean the chip and area with rubbing alcohol and let it dry. The directions say to dab the paint next to the chip, smear it with the side of your thumb, let it dry 5 minutes, and wipe the excess off with their solution. If the chip is shallow, I've found no paint stays in the chip after wiping down with the solution. If the chip is deep, the paint will stay, but very little gets into the chip, so very little gets filled.

Instead I basically follow the Ammonyc vids and just use small paint brushes to gradually fill the chip, much like a traditional chip repair. Unlike the OEM paint you can get from the dealership, the DrColorChip stuff doesn't seem to shrink at all, so I'm usually not having to wait long between layers.

meatpimp
May 15, 2004

Psst -- Wanna buy

:) EVERYWHERE :)
some high-quality thread's DESTROYED!

:kheldragar:

Alright, I'm going to have to revise a previous bitch. I tried Langka about 10 years ago and wasn't impressed. I've learned a lot about paint since then and I've been working on detailing a new-to-me 530i. There are a number of chips and a barely-noticable (but there) key scratch.

I decided to try Langka again, just because I saw it on the shelf. I touched up one chip and the key scratch yesterday, leaving a lot of excess touch up paint on the areas. I used a ~4" body filler scraper with a smooth cotton rag over top of it. I used the product as described and... I'm floored. The chip that I filled is not visible beyond 6". Yes, six loving inches. It's virtually gone on a white car. The key scratch is going to take a bit more work, but I reduced its visibility by 80% the first pass. I'll try again tomorrow.

I am going to keep going with it, I'll do some process shots and put them up here. I could become a believer.

Red Dad Redemption
Sep 29, 2007

Tried Meguiars No 21 yesterday. Was the first time using a sealant instead of a wax. I'll have to see how long it lasts but was very satisfied with the shine, it was half as expensive as the other sealant I was looking at, and it was way way easier to apply than wax. Very satisfied so far.

Atmus
Mar 8, 2002
What's the best method of removing glue residue from an ugly dealer sticker? I'm pretty sure I saw it in this thread but I couldn't find it.

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。
Goo gone, but it's a petrochemical so be careful.

Galler
Jan 28, 2008


Also be very careful that you get Goo Gone and NOT Goof Off. The former cleans off residue while the latter cleans off everything down to bare metal. Ok maybe not all the way to bare metal but it will ruin your day if you confuse them.

Brigdh
Nov 23, 2007

That's not an oil leak. That's the automatic oil change and chassis protection feature.
3M makes a really nice adhesive remover that's designed for automotive. Comes in a black spray can (I can't find a pic right now). Your local parts store will likely carry it. I've used it with great success on anything that wasn't baked on and aged for two decades.

Goober Peas
Jun 30, 2007

Check out my 'Vette, bro


I've also used WD40 successfully on stickers and whatnot

RIP Paul Walker
Feb 26, 2004

Somehow the outside of my glass got scratched after a tint job - one of the scratches is loving huge. Is there anything that can be done about this?

I'm taking it back tomorrow, but I imagine they'll tell me that it was not there before and whelp.

RIP Paul Walker fucked around with this message at 01:46 on Mar 28, 2014

McSpatula
Aug 5, 2006
You're best off taking it back, but if they refuse to help, and the scratch isn't very deep, most surfaces can be polished with a proper pad and cerium oxide powder slurry (or any premade glass polish containing this). Due to the nature of soft glass used, if you aren't very experienced with polishing the material, it'll be recommended that you seek professional help, as you'll most likely further worsen the surface condition with microabrasions that may further obstruct optical clarity.

Chinatown
Sep 11, 2001

by Fluffdaddy
Fun Shoe
WD40 + claybar.

Use latex gloves please.

BoyBlunder
Sep 17, 2008

CountOfNowhere posted:

Somehow the outside of my glass got scratched after a tint job - one of the scratches is loving huge. Is there anything that can be done about this?

I'm taking it back tomorrow, but I imagine they'll tell me that it was not there before and whelp.

Is your tint still drying? It might just need time to settle. Every time I've had tint when I got the car back it looked hazy from the inside, and I had lines from the liquid that just needed to dry for like a week or something.

Of course, if you can feel the scratch, and it feels like a scratch, then that's a whole different story.

emanonii
Jun 22, 2005

meatpimp posted:

Have you used it? I've got a bit of hood rash on the white E39 I just bought... not bad, but it stands out on a white car. Something like that would be great, if it actually works.

I've used it and can't recommend it enough. Here's the before and after on a '98 BMW 323:



meatpimp
May 15, 2004

Psst -- Wanna buy

:) EVERYWHERE :)
some high-quality thread's DESTROYED!

:kheldragar:

emanonii posted:

I've used it and can't recommend it enough. Here's the before and after on a '98 BMW 323:





Holy shitsnacks, that's awesome. I'll be doing that, let it dry for a few weeks, then 3M Spray clearing it: http://www.amazon.com/3M-90000-Paint-Defender-Spray/dp/B00BSKYM82

emanonii
Jun 22, 2005
Let me know if you have any questions about it. It really is as easy as it seems. The prep and work after application is really what allowed the product to make a huge difference.

eddyc49
Aug 25, 2004

emanonii posted:

I've used it and can't recommend it enough. Here's the before and after on a '98 BMW 323:





I had similar results on my Strato Blue miata. I had tons on road rash from the previous owner, and the Dr. Colorchip did a great job of matching the color and limiting the visibility of the chips.

heated game moment
Oct 30, 2003

Lipstick Apathy
Based on the advice in this thread I just purchased the $200 Autogeek starter kit which includes several pads and the recommended PC polisher. Should be here early next week as I had a tracking number within hours of ordering. Very excited to use it on my car as it is in desperate need of some TLC and I haven't had the best results using hand application.

I'll be using Meguiar's Ultimate Compound with the yellow pads to hopefully get some of the deep swirl marks out, followed up Meguiar's Ultimate Polish and finally NXT Tech Wax 2.0. Detailed before and after pictures will follow.

Accompanying this, I just noticed the other day that one of my sunroof drains has clogged and as a result there has been water accumulating in the tray around inside of the sunroof.

Passenger side - where the clogged drain is






Driver's side is much better


The plan is to remove the black plastic wind guard and use an air compressor to blow out the clogged drain. This will be followed by a cleaning to get all the surface gunk off and then I'm going to try to dremel off the remaining corrosion and apply some kind of silicone sealant which will hopefully keep this from happening in the future. Anyone with experience doing this have any advice on whether this will work?


How she sits today:

FogHelmut
Dec 18, 2003

emanonii posted:

I've used it and can't recommend it enough. Here's the before and after on a '98 BMW 323:





Did you fill in one chip at a time? Or is there a note efficient way to do this?

meatpimp
May 15, 2004

Psst -- Wanna buy

:) EVERYWHERE :)
some high-quality thread's DESTROYED!

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Cyrezar posted:

The plan is to remove the black plastic wind guard and use an air compressor to blow out the clogged drain.

Be very careful with this. I don't know about Benz specifically, but a lot of cars have plastic or rubber drain hoses connected to the sunroof drains that you're seeing. It's very easy to put too much pressure down those drains (especially if they're plugged), then you blow the hose off and... well, good luck fishing the drain back up the A-pillar!

Edit: See #12 in this diagram (BMW, but other manufacturers are similar): http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?model=DT63&mospid=47587&btnr=54_0196&hg=54&fg=05

The way I've cleared them before is first, see where it's supposed to come out, and check that outlet first. Sometimes the outlets get plugged with road grime. If that doesn't do it, feed some line from a string trimmer down the drain and see if you can clear it that way. I've never had to go beyond that, but the next step for me would be to put some concentrated Simple Green into the drain to see if that will clear it up over a couple days of soaking.

meatpimp fucked around with this message at 14:24 on Mar 29, 2014

emanonii
Jun 22, 2005

FogHelmut posted:

Did you fill in one chip at a time? Or is there a note efficient way to do this?

For the bigger chips, I did each chip individually. For general road rash that is not deep, basically you wipe/smear an area with a cloth. That distributes the paint pretty well. Depending on the depth of the chip/rash/scratch, it may take multiple passes to fully fill it in.

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.

meatpimp posted:

The way I've cleared them before is first, see where it's supposed to come out, and check that outlet first. Sometimes the outlets get plugged with road grime. If that doesn't do it, feed some line from a string trimmer down the drain and see if you can clear it that way. I've never had to go beyond that, but the next step for me would be to put some concentrated Simple Green into the drain to see if that will clear it up over a couple days of soaking.
Bicycle brake cable wrapped in electrical tape has served me well for poking them through, it's flexible enough to go anywhere the tube goes, but stiff enough to break up obstructions.

heated game moment
Oct 30, 2003

Lipstick Apathy

meatpimp posted:

Be very careful with this. I don't know about Benz specifically, but a lot of cars have plastic or rubber drain hoses connected to the sunroof drains that you're seeing. It's very easy to put too much pressure down those drains (especially if they're plugged), then you blow the hose off and... well, good luck fishing the drain back up the A-pillar!

Edit: See #12 in this diagram (BMW, but other manufacturers are similar): http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?model=DT63&mospid=47587&btnr=54_0196&hg=54&fg=05

The way I've cleared them before is first, see where it's supposed to come out, and check that outlet first. Sometimes the outlets get plugged with road grime. If that doesn't do it, feed some line from a string trimmer down the drain and see if you can clear it that way. I've never had to go beyond that, but the next step for me would be to put some concentrated Simple Green into the drain to see if that will clear it up over a couple days of soaking.

May try the simple green. Most of the people I've talked to have recommended the compressed air method, including my indy who said he does this regularly to Benz/MB.

Since I don't currently have an air compressor, the first thing I tried was to snake wire down the drain and see if anything was obstructing it but had no luck. I then started from the bottom, jacked the car up and took the wheel and the fender liner off to review whether or not there was a buildup at the bottom of the drain. I was not able to find anything and no water was draining out at all from the bottom of the passenger side. This is pretty much the last step before having to dig into the a-pillar which I'd obviously rather not do as it would involve taking apart half the alcantara headliner.

PhoenixWing
Feb 13, 2012

If anyone remembers my car from a couple pages back, I've almost gotten the whole of it looking decent now. Ended up spending more on compounds, sandpaper, tools, and wax/sealants than the paint job actually cost :shepface:

Original:


Now:





Still need to replace both bumpers as it ended up being sandwiched between two cars, and finish the passenger fender. Still incredibly happy with how it came out though.

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009
That looks fantastic! What products have you used?

MetaJew
Apr 14, 2006
Gather round, one and all, and thrill to my turgid tales of underwhelming misadventure!
Have any of you guys used the single bucket carwash products out there? I live in an apartment complex so I don't have access to a place where I can hook up a hose and wash my car. There is, however, a spigot on the side of one building where I could fill a bucket and then sponge down my car in front of my garage.

Are these products any good or worth the money? My black car is just getting filthier and filthier.

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

MetaJew posted:

Have any of you guys used the single bucket carwash products out there? I live in an apartment complex so I don't have access to a place where I can hook up a hose and wash my car. There is, however, a spigot on the side of one building where I could fill a bucket and then sponge down my car in front of my garage.

Are these products any good or worth the money? My black car is just getting filthier and filthier.

Single bucket car washes can be good for light amounts of dirt. If your car is really bad I suggest taking it down to a non-automated car wash and spraying it off there first with a high pressure nozzle and soap. DO NOT USE THEIR BRUSHES. Then you can bring it back home and do a single bucket car wash.

Full Circle
Feb 20, 2008

MetaJew posted:

Have any of you guys used the single bucket carwash products out there? I live in an apartment complex so I don't have access to a place where I can hook up a hose and wash my car. There is, however, a spigot on the side of one building where I could fill a bucket and then sponge down my car in front of my garage.

Are these products any good or worth the money? My black car is just getting filthier and filthier.

I just did my first hand wash of the year since moving into an apartment. I used Optimum No Rinse with a bucket/gritguard and 4 microfiber towels. The whole process took under 20 minutes and had just as good results as when I had hose access and used normal wash liquid.

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meatpimp
May 15, 2004

Psst -- Wanna buy

:) EVERYWHERE :)
some high-quality thread's DESTROYED!

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ratbert90 posted:

DO NOT USE THEIR BRUSHES.

The brushes themselves are not bad, they're very soft bristles with nice foam. What's bad is the grit and dirt and crap that gets in them from people cleaning their mud trucks, wheelwells, etc.

So, what I do is take about 15 seconds on high-pressure soap and blast the gently caress out of the brush itself, as it's hanging on the wall. This gets all the nasties out, and give you a nice brush to use.

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